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Jordan, 20, calls me back Monday night, May 30, 2005.

I met her the night before at PAW's bowling fundraiser.

She'd said my name excitedly. "The man behind the myth."

Monday evening Jordan went to Dodger stadium for the first time and saw her beloved Cubs win 5-3. "I'd never been to a baseball game outside of Wrigley Field, which is where the Cubs play in Chicago."

Duke: "Did you have fun last night?"

Jordan: "It was fun. I was definitely glad to meet you. When I first came into the industry last year, you were one of the first names I learned. Your old site (www.l-keford.com) was one of the first websites I got sent to."

Duke: "How did you get into the porn industry?"

Jordan: "I moved out when I was 17. I wanted to experiment. I wanted to do and see as much as I possibly could while I was young. I was recently sexually liberated. I was turned on to some new things, discovered a talent, and figured why not make money with it. If it pays for school, great.

"I had a couple of friends who 'modeled.' I talked to them about their experiences. I jumped on to a message board website for the adult industry and spoke to different people. I ended up going to Vegas for my first shoot. I met more people there and ended up in LA. I moved here in March."

Jordan Fleiss has done about 25 movies.

Duke: "When you were a girl, what did you want to be when you grew up?"

Jordan: "A lot of things. Mainly a lawyer for criminal justice, psychological profiling, abnormal psychology."

Duke: "What kind of crowd did you hang out with in highschool?"

Jordan: "I was a skater girl. I went to a public school in Chicago. It was a diverse crowd. There were a lot of minorities, a lot of gangs. You couldn't categorize my cliche."

Duke: "But what's a skater girl?"

Jordan: "The baggy jeans and the colored hair and was listening to metal and rap."

Duke: "Does it mean you were rollerskating?"

Jordan: "I skateboarded a little bit. We hung around with the skateboarding group. Everybody skated back in highschool."

Duke: "What kind of student were you?"

Jordan: "An absent one. Highschool was a wild time for me. I started everything early. I was 15 when I lost my virginity."

Duke: "Were you a slut?"

Jordan: "I was more one of the guys. I was the one girl you would always find among a crowd of guys. I was always into the sports, the music. I was a tomboy."

Duke: "How did your family and friends react when you got into porn?"

Jordan: "My family knows but they live in denial. Nobody talks about it. I never had to deal with a reaction from them. Some of my friends were proud, some surprised, and some melted away. I could see where some of my friends started to look at me. They deny it. They say it doesn't bother them."

Duke: "What have you loved and hated about your time in the industry?"

Jordan: "I love that I meet people from all over the world. I met two people in this industry from Transylvania [next to Hungary in Europe]. You just don't get that kind of cultural diversity walking down the street. On a porn set, everybody is forced to be uninhibited. You get to know them on a different kind of level than you would talking to them over a beer or randomly meeting them at a party. It's ignorant to think that the only way to live life is the way our country lives it.

"What I don't like is that this industry is so similar to highschool.

"I did an 18-month apprenticeship as an autobody technician. The people who take old cards and grind them down and restore them. I'm going to take over the shop back home but I have to be certified to do it. Cars have been my passion since I was 11. I can't explain it. I didn't grow up with them."

Duke: "How has it affected your love life to work in this industry?"

Jordan: "Guys have never been a priority of mine since I've been on my own and realized the value of money and what these years are going to do for me. I try not to date people in the industry. It's unprofessional. Outside the industry, the guys will always say, no, it doesn't bother me that you do porn. No, it doesn't bother me at all.

"Then, as time goes on, slowly and surely it bothers them, and they try to change you, and they hold it against you. I'm not up for that.

"I am attracted to women. I think they're beautiful creatures. I just don't like pussy."

Despite this, Jordan has done a few girl-girl scenes.

Duke: "Has working in porn affected your views of men?"

Jordan: "No. The guys in the industry are like guys outside the industry, only more."

Duke: "What do you like to do in your spare time?"

Jordan: "I drag race back home."

Duke: "What did you learn last night?"

Jordan: "I learned that fans are sillier than I thought. Being around guys in the industry, who see 100 naked chicks a week, if you run around naked in front of them, and they don't turn their head. All of a sudden you're with all these civilians, and when a bra strap falls off a shoulder, the cameras are flashing. It was a culture shock."

8/11/05

Jordan Fleiss - Big No No?

I call Jordan Thursday afternoon about this negative review of her on PornStarPerformance.com.

She calls me back at 10:53pm. She has a different story than the one Yuri presents.

Jordan: "I was ok with everybody but this one guy Ior or Nigor. He brought us the car we were using for the pick-up scene. I started to introduce myself and before I could even say my name, he started disrespecting me. He had this look and tone of condescension. I pulled Yuri aside to talk about it. He told me to shrug it off.

"We went to do a three-line dialogue. We rehearsed it for about an hour. The guy I was to work with was Jerry, who has a thick [European] accent. He wasn't flowing with the dialogue so well. The lines were: 'Hi, how are you? How are you doing today? How can I service you?'

"They pulled the car up 12 times [and the scene was not going right]. I was going, guys, what's going on? First, it's the internet. Second, it's three lines of dialogue.

"Ior kept making these little comments and looks. He was very condescending and old world Russian."

Did Rose drop you?

"Yeah. She called me this morning asking what had happened. I told her straight up. I've had two problems with her. They were both internet things (the other one was Jimmy Lifestyles)."

Were you drinking alcohol Wednesday night?

"I had one beer and I didn't even have a chance to finish it. I like to drink a decent amount but I don't like to be drunk. Beer to me is like a stick of gum. I try to relax. This guy Ior was on my nerves. It seemed like an unorganized production from the start."

Did you throw the beer bottle and cut Jerry's foot?

"That is completely news to me. Yeah, I did the throw beer bottle. I didn't throw it at the guy. I was not trying to go to jail. I threw it on the ground because I was exceedingly pissed because Ior called me a cunt.

"We were trying to come to a resolution. All I wanted was for Ior to leave the set. I wasn't pissed. I wasn't flipping out. I wanted to do the scene.

"If it cut Jerry, that's news to me. I didn't see any blood or hear any ow! He was wearing sneakers. I saw Jerry before I left. I apologized to him for the inconvenience of the situation."

A person at Redd Rose Talent Management emailed me back: "I had a bad experience with her and another poducer as well who will also be posting a reply to that message on pornstarperformance and i thought she just had a bad day so I gave her another chance but then another incident and then this I had to let her go."

Yuri (On the J Productions) writes on PornStarPerformance.com:

I do not recommend booking Jordan. I'm on very good terms with Redd Rose Talent Management and intend to continue working with Rose, however my experience at last night's shoot was not acceptable. From the start when I picked her up (she doesn't have a car), I noticed this girl was a bit bitchy but I managed to maintain myself professional, stay calm and keep my mouth shut. Once we arrived to the set things were going quite well until she got into it with one of the producers. Decided to go get drunk with a few Hispanic guys across the street while I was taking care of some paper work at the location. Came back drunk, continued to yell at everyone including myself making up things such as "you guys are so disrespectful" "i cant believe this is taking so long" "how about you not worry about the dialog and make a good sex scene" "so unprofessional" etc...At that point it started turning funny to me. I would respond calmly with a smirk on my face with "how about you just cooperate, do what we tell you and give me a good performance"....Bottom line, she went off again and an hour hasn't even gone by. It was getting dark and she had a glass beer bottle in her hand which I told her to throw away before I would have to cancel the shoot. Acting very childish and the immature 20 year old she is, she threw the glass beer bottle towards my car (luckily not hitting it) and cut the male talent's foot. His name is Jerry and LA Direct reps him. Great agency as well, work with Derek a lot and will continue to. Jerry got pissed off and started to complain. I apologized and told everybody that the shoot is canceled and time to go home because it was too late to get a replacement. Jordan started going crazy again, started to make phone calls, threatened me, etc..She wanted a kill fee -- "that is funny but I don't think so" i responded. She put me on the line with Rose (Redd Rose Talent Mgmt) at approx. 11:30pm and Rose apologized several times and promised that this would never happen again and told me that it wasn't the first time she's had a complaint about Jordan. Rose gave Jordan the "boot" the following morning, took her pictures off of her website and no longer represents her. Don't get Jordan! She talks way too much, She's way too picky and has way too many personal issues to deal with.

Jimmy Lifestyles writes 8/18/05 on GFY:

YOU DO NOT WANT THIS GIRL, trust me. One of the bitchiest rudest chicks in porn. Jordan Fleiss (O'neill) was perhaps the biggest headache i've ever encountered in all my years of shooting. I'll have video clip up here soon of her slapping my male talent in the balls on purpose and laughing about it, calling him a pussy repeatedly. Screaming like a rabid banshee at us on the set cuz "he couldnt f--- her hard enough" and snapping in an out of insanity. I calmed her down long enough for her to demand a kill fee for all her antics and when i told her that wasnt gonna happen, that we'd get a replacement cock, the rage continued until i let her have her boyfriend finish the scene. This guy f---ed her way worse than my talent did but for some reason she praised him. This happened not only on my set, but two others in the same week with her losing it and creating severe problems. She's got a serious head imbalance and its funny that Jeffy is trying to reward and help her. Dont buy into this chick. Pass.

Jordan calls me back Friday afternoon (7/19/05).

Duke: "Have you seen that video of you?"

Jordan laughs. "No. But I do recall it."

Duke: "You slapped Will Powers in the balls and he didn't seem happy."

Jordan: "We were trying to do the scene and he was having wood problems. I was just trying to help him, to an extent. He has a job to do. I can only help to a certain extent. I thought he was slapping his dick kinda hard. I've seen guys slap their dicks to keep from popping, but he was slapping it when it was soft. I was goofing around and like, 'Can I do that?' He said sure. He said it helped him get wood. I thought it was strange but this industry never ceases to amaze me.

"I told Jimmy Lifestyles, the director, that I do aggressive scenes and he should put me with someone who performs accordingly. You wouldn't put an aggressive masochist with a soft-spoken man.

"Will was cool. We hung out. He was cute. Could he keep up with me? I told Jimmy, I get aggressive if the guy won't take control. Jimmy told me to go for it. That's what I did. Then it came back to haunt me.

"When things went sour with Will, and Jimmy was about to call the scene (I could've gone home and collected my money), I told Jimmy that my boyfriend is an option. If you want to risk it, then go for it.

"He was shy. He had never sex in front of people before. We got it done. We had to go into the bathroom, just me and him, to finish it."

Jordan hasn't picked up a new talent agent since she was booted by Redd Rose.

8/25/05

Will Powers Recollects In Tranquility

I call him Thursday afternoon to get his perspective on his tumultuous scene about a month ago with Jordan Fleiss. Here's a video clip.

Will: "It started out as a typical job. I couldn't care less who I was working with. I show up. Right off she says, 'You have to get yourself hard.' Her attitude right out the gate, a diva mentality.

"OK, I know what kind of scene this is going to be. There's no chemistry.

"We get rocking and rolling through the scene. When we're performing together, it's like a dance. If someone is two-stepping and the other person is trying to do another dance, it's not going to be good.

"Right out of the cage, she's like, 'Harder! Harder! Harder!' I'm doing what I can.

"A couple of times I'd slap my dick just to desensitize it. She saw that. She got this wild idea and out of nowhere, in the middle of the scene, she makes a fist and punches my balls. It felt like getting hit with a line drive on the baseball diamond without wearing your cup. I felt like my testicles were inside my stomach. I fell to the ground.

"While I was simmering down and waiting for my testicles to realign, she was bitching and complaining and talking about her boyfriend. At this point, I wanted to rip her head off. I tell Jimmy Lifestyles, 'I can't work with this girl.' Then [Jordan] and I start getting into it verbally. We were fighting like we were boyfriend and girlfriend.

"She calls her boyfriend. Even Jimmy says I was doing fine and she was just a nutball.

"I'm pretty mellow. It takes a lot to piss me off. I've done over 200 scenes.

"Her boyfriend came. I figured, I better get out of here. I don't want to start fighting the boyfriend.

"We made the scene work. I'm like, 'Boy, this girl is crazy. She's too much for me.' It turned out to be a funny scene.

"I saw Redd Rose yesterday. She wondered what happened. She said she gave the girl one more chance but the next scene she threw a beer bottle at the male talent."

Duke: "So what else are you doing these days?"

Will: "My first passion was working in live mainstream television. I'm a jib assistant in mainstream. I know that the river's not always going to be running. I'm halfway smart. I can't rely on my sword my whole life. I have to have a back-up plan. I don't have Lloyds of London insurance on it."

9/2/05

Jordan Fleiss Goes To The Videotape

She calls me Friday at 5:19pm.

Jordan: "I finally saw the video clip you called me about. It was nothing like what I expected. They edited it like a trailer.

"He [Jimmy Lifestyles] told me to say on video that I was 21 or 23. I'm 20 [turn 21 February 2006]. He put on the internet a video of him, 27, giving a 20-year old beer. He aired a crime, him contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

"That's asking for trouble when you hand under [the legal drinking age] talent walking in a beer and tequila. That beer was from his fridge. I didn't bring that.

"I talked to a lot of directors who saw it before I did. They said it's not that bad. When I slapped Will Powers in the balls, I hit him to the left side. Everybody was laughing.

"Will Powers went into the bathroom. He tried to get hard. I slapped him. Everything he requested me to do, I did.

"We sat and watched the Dodgers game and smoked a blunt of weed for an hour before we did anything. Will Powers brought out the tequila. I was like, cool, if it is going to be like that, I'll take part. They gave me that vodka and then they come back [make fun of her]."

Duke: "How has this affected your work?"

Jordan: "It hasn't. I meet some directors and they say, 'I've been reading some bad press about you.' I laugh. They laugh too. They say, 'Don't worry. I've seen the clip. It's not that bad.'"

Jordan is now represented by Bad Ass Models.

"Cherry Boxxx has shot me eight times. They love having me on set. You respect me and I will too."

Bad Ass Frank writes:

I headed over to pick up the dreaded, evil scourge of the pornstars, Jordan Fleiss. Let me say this about the abject Jordan... We had coffee and chatted for 2 hours or more. Topics included classic car restoration, behaviorial science, body language, flying free-of-charge oh, and porn. She's a very intelligent 20 year old and has a great personality. Yes, the attitude is there. But it's all a defense mechanism to hide a bit of a scared girl. With a few conversational adjustments, she saw the light. We got along swimmingly and I intend to represent her. Hell, I might put her in my movie. Cuz that girl only needed one thing to bring her around...perspective. And nobody puts things in perspective like ol' BAF.