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Kendra Jade: Star Lover
Sunday, 4:50 p.m. Kendra: "I'm getting my nails done."
Luke: "I'm trying to fill up my web log."
Kendra: "With useless information?"
Luke: "With meaningful information."
Kendra: "I've got something meaningful. Cassidey and I made-up. We hung out last night. We hugged."
Holly shoots Cassidey Tuesday.
Luke: "Is she moving back in?"
Kendra: "No.
"Did you and Holly smoke the peace pipe?"
Luke: "No. We just trade the occasional IM."
Kendra: "Your Mary Carey's therapist. That's a scary thought."
Luke: "What are your memories of Anna Malle?"
Kendra: "I don't have a lot. Our paths crossed only a couple of times, but when they did, she was completely sweet. So was Nina Hartley and the old-school girls."
Luke: "When the Jerry Springer scandal hit, it said 'porn star Kendra Jade.' And nobody had ever heard of you."
Kendra: "People felt that I hadn't paid my dues."
Because Laree likes to try to steal my men.. I must re-post my top five. These are the guys that are "hands-off" to all my friends. I called them first , therefore they are mine,effective immediately.( or until i no longer desire them , then you can have at it ).In this order : 1. Johnny Knoxville 2. Matthew Fox ( my dear sweet doctor from "Lost") 3.Ryan Gosling 4.Ace Young ( American Idol) 5.Adam Pascal ( Rent)
Lunch With Heather Veitch Of JCsGirls.com
Heather calls me back at 11:22. "I'm on the 60. Can you guide me in from the 101?"
Luke: "You've been to my hovel twice before."
Heather: "Yeah, but I don't remember."
Luke: "You didn't Mapquest it?"
Heather: "No. I'll just keep calling you and you can guide me in."
Over the next 80-minutes, she calls me a few times before finally arriving at my hovel. Then she needs to get to the nearest Cingular store to buy a charger for her cell phone. She's been dealing with drama since Saturday's LA Times article.
I give her the directions to the nearest Cingular store and she returns about an hour later at 1:21 p.m.
She's stressed. I'm tired. We walk five blocks to the restaurant. Heather says she was on the 700 Club for two days running. The segments ran about eight minutes each.
"When I got up, people behind the scenes were balling their eyes out," she says.
"Why?"
"Because of my testimony."
Heather gets into trouble when newspapers keep getting the facts of her story wrong. The LA Times said that her fellow JC girl Lori was an ex-stripper. Not true.
Media keep getting wrong the chronology of her conversion and her commitment to help people in the sex industry.
"I never thought I would be 32 and there would be a group of people wanting to make me a star," says Heather at a kosher restaurant.
We look at our menus.
I have to keep hushing her from using the word "porn."
Heather says 600 people (all dressed casually) came to her Sandals church in Riverside this weekend. People formed a conga line. People dived off the stage into the crowd, including an ex-stripper who's now gungho for Jesus. Heather sat with a couple of women who are still working as strippers.
Veitch remembers London. "Arab men were so aggressive. They'd come running up to me. They'd say, 'Whatever you want. I can afford you. They'd run up and kiss me on the cheek.'
"Every time I'd say, 'I'm married, they'd say, 'Me too.'
One night Heather and Lori went out to a posh club in London. A big hukkah (pipe) was brought to the table. Heather and Lori had a glass of wine. "We looked at each other and thought, 'Are we going to hell? What did we just do?'" The DJ played "American Girl" and various American songs to welcome them.
On Sunday, Heather's pastor preached that it is OK to celebrate with a glass of wine.
We walk back from lunch.
Heather complains about stardom. "I meet people and they've put me in this high position and I can't convince them that I'm nobody. I never want people to feel that I am not approachable or to think that I'm a star.
"We have this moms' group called MWAPs (Mothers With A Purpose). A porn star joined. She told her story. And everybody loved her. They didn't reject her.
"I have to hide the [sex workers] from the media or they will stalk them."
Heather had a 3 p.m. appointment at the William Morris talent agency in Beverly Hills.
Even as we were landing, Heather and I were looking at each other saying, "What the heck are we doing in England?" We went over to do the Richard and Judy show, which is like the equivalent of our Regis and Kelly or Oprah but in the evening. We had high hopes of an amazing time which were quickly dashed as I sat down in economy with my neighbor hanging over into my personal space (which was small to begin with). For eleven hours we sat straight up, trying to sleep as we faced a wall, only to arrive at our "hotel" to be slightly dissappointed by the twin beds in crackerboxes that we slept in for 2 nights. Heather's room was nicknamed the smelly room, mine was the igloo. I slept under so many make-shift blankets that I literally had to pick them up to turn over while getting all hung up in my sweatsuit which I wore to bed in my effort to get warm. It was so crazy! One thing we did like about our little place was the continental breakfast with amazing tea and croissants!
Anyway, feeling "punked" by our accomodations, we didn't know what to expect at the show, but as it turned out, everyone was so nice and the co-hosts were very gracious. They asked us about Heather's testimony and about the ministry and were really great about giving us time to share. Afterwards, we were blown away to realize what an amazing opportunity this really was. As we spoke with Richard and Judy, we began to realize that we were in a truly secular society. While there are the most amazing churches and cathedrals everywhere, there is virtually no Christian culture. We met numerous people who knew a lot of people, but had to stretch to think of a Christian that they knew. It was so crazy for us. We went out to dinner and experienced night life in London, meeting people who had seen us on the show. The fact that everyone knew we were the Christian girls who were on Richard and Judy gave us perfect opportunities to talk to everyone we met about God. So, ultimately, after a good experience on the show, fish and chips, and talking to so many people about God, we considered our adventure not only worth it, but fun! We even found ourselves becoming strangely attached to our "hotel"...Since we've been home we have gotten numerous email from people in the UK who want to begin networking there and reaching out to girls in the industry...God had His reasons for taking us to England!
American-Cannibal.com - The Trailer
See why Kevin Blatt wants to sue and it's costing him a fortune. The documentary took the name of his reality TV show. KB wants to go mainstream.
Kevin introduced me to the documentarians Perry Grebin and Michael Nigro on July 14, 2005. Now KB feels betrayed.
Luke: "Do you think this documentary is going to damage your reputation?"
KB: "Yes."
Luke laughs.
Betrayal is what good journalists do (in the sense that they display empathy when listening to their subjects but then go home and write the truth, almost everyone has major delusions about themselves that they will reveal to a sensitive interviewer, see Janet Malcolm's book The Journalist and the Murderer).
Change in XRCO Awards Show trophy girl
The XRCO Awards Show is barely a month away (April 20th) and we made a change in one of the trophy girls. We have switched McKenzie Lee from trophy girl to presenter (along with the other Club Jenna girls and many others who will present trophies) and have brought in newcummer BREA BENNETT as the other trophy girl. Should be a fun night!
Steven French should be in jail - not in porn?
Picman writes on ADT: "How about throwing the director in there with him for allowing the brutality to continue. And the producer too, for thinking of such a concept. This is not rough sex delivered in the heat of passion. Just a calculated assault. Some people have no shame."
David Aaron Clark responds to a "that's debatable" post:
That's debatable. " No, it's not. Unless you think whether people should freely sit around & watch snuff movies is somehow a debatable issue. Or think that aggravated assault is somehow a "debatable issue."
It just amazes me how many of you turn off your brains -- & any sense of decency -- once the blood starts flowing to your dicks (or clits, not to leave out the self-hating, mysogynist women out there who have learned to love & emulate their torturers). Glad it's all academic to you from your armchair, bub.
I suspect that when most pornographers get angry about the abuse of women in porn, it's not the abuse of women in porn that's primarily at issue. It's the opportunity to vent on others the hatred they have for their own jobs. Porn sex is a full contact sport and people get hurt, physically and emotionally. What Vivid Video, David Clark, Rob Black, and Khan Tusion have in common is far more than what any of them have in common with non-porn producers of entertainment.
Melissa Lauren writes:
I know Steven, have worked several times with him, and never had a problem. Very sweet guy. I don't know Alex on the other hand, although I've heard crazy stories about her being locked in a bathroom for half hour on set, doing drugs and being out of her mind. I'm not saying it's true - just what I heard, and we know how gossip goes sometimes. I've been, on a director's side, in a situation where the girl I was shooting went through a really strong scene, never complained during it, smiled and asked for more, and after the shoot it was a whole different story. She basically blamed me for not respecting her limits (hello, you know you can say stop when you dont like something?) blamed me for letting her drink on set (when she showed up on my set at 9 am with an almost empty bottle of wine) etc... So I'm kind of weirded out by that story. It'd be interesting to ask the director what exactly happened. Sometimes girls tend to make up or exaggerate stories. Seen it more than a couple of times. Fortunately, there's always the unedited original tape, and/or witnesses.
Holly writes: "Is that legal? I guess technically it would be the same as a girl getting her ass spanked in a video, but brutal scenes like these are what attract unwanted attention from anti-porn advocates, dont'cha think? Hearing about a video like that makes me understand why some people hate porn so much, and I hate being associated with something like that via industry name."
The legality of any kind of porn is up to community standards, including this kind.
Luke: you'd probably like donkey punch in your own life
HollyRandall: hell no
HollyRandall: that's not cool
Luke: why not? You love to be slapped etc
HollyRandall: i find that really disturbing
HollyRandall: poor girl
HollyRandall: yeah but not incredibly hard and i don't want to be punched
in the back of the head
HollyRandall: that hurts
HollyRandall: i like play slapping
HollyRandall: not "i'm going to kick your ass bitch"
Luke: you like more pain than any woman I have ever known
HollyRandall: then you don't know many women
HollyRandall: i'm probably a lot more vocal about what i like
Luke: I can't even begin to approach delivering the level of pain you
like inflicted. That would scare me.
David Clark writes on ADT:
I don't know Alex Devine. Just like Melissa, who also WASN'T THERE & only has gossip blaming the victim to offer. I only care about her in the abstract as a fellow human being.
Reread her description of the scene. Continually punching her in the soft spot on her head with a metal ring while she's begging him to stop? & the "directors" become criminal accesories by not stopping this scene but standing there videotaping it like Chuck Haidl's idea of some really cool dudes?
That situation could have quite easily become literal snuff porn, just like when Khan used to choke out the girls before he got scared off. In this situation, "what's right for me isn't necessarily right for you" is not on any level a logical or even sane response. If I think it's okay to rape & dismember three-year-old children, or cheat people out of their life savings a la Charles Keating, & you don't, do our "opinions" carry equal moral value? Do we "agree to disagree," & do you let me continue my destructive actions?
BASED ON HER OWN DESCRIPTION -- not to mention the proof of the trailer & the words of those who seen this clever little gem of a video -- this is NOT "overly rough sex." It's hatred, plain & simple. & the so-called "directors" sat there, no doubt giggling, & let it happen. & now are trying to profit from it. What a cesspool porn has become in some quarters of the valley!
"She got paid to do the scene, now it's over"?
Where the hell do people like you come from, exactly?
Yankey Doodel writes: "There's a reason punching in back of the head/neck isn't allowed in boxing, that's where the brain stem is."
Kami Andrews writes:
It's very easy to say what you would do in some one else's shoes but the bottom line is your not. I know I have reacted differently in emergency situations than I thought I would, my brother was in an accident and when I called 911 I couldn't talk. If you had asked me prior how I would have dealt with it that would not have been my answer. I think the natural reaction to attack her for complaining is really sad, especially if you are familiar with her body of work and realize she has never spoken out before. Earlier in the thread some one said walk and speak out [and] people will support you but the reality is this thread.
SuzeSandal?
Gia Jordan writes: "Suze Sandal? How does Suze Randall feel about your name? Ever trick young hopefuls into thinking you're Suze Randall as if she would ever step foot in Tampa?"
Holly writes: "Um, yeah that's a little bit too much of a "coincidence" for me... do you have a daughter named Holly Sandal? I bet she's not as cool as me."
Monstar writes: "Sweetheart, i luv ya but...you dated Luke. You lost your cool points. But then again, my brother thought Luke was kool. He said Luke was funny and dressed all 80's retro."
Are We Working for A Dying Industry?
Is it possible we are working in an ever-growing dying business? Think about ratios over the last eight years, from 1:100 to 1:1000ish, more traffic these days is less sales, as newer young adults get CC's they have already been exposed to millions of free pictures. Every day we all seem to "trade" traffic, exchange sales almost. We have massive groups of people that won't ever buy porn, and that group is growing as more free services come out.
So, think about over the last eight years, have we increased or decreased as an industry? I see nothing but an overall decrease in almost all areas of adult, so why do we continue to work for a business that statistically is dying?
And please do not come on this post and say oh well my site is rocking with 1:200 and spam your s---… we know as an industry we are not doing as well as we once were. I’ve seen the post from the big boys all the way down.
So what’s it worth to you? From a big webmaster that’s making millions to a smaller webmaster starting out, is it worth the struggle, the laws, the slaps in the face to wake up to a 1:2500 ratio? I’ll admit it … last week we woke up to some of the worst ratios we’ve seen in a LONG time. Hell, this year has been all over the board.
As a US webmaster, it's getting to a point to where it's not worth it to ME. I'm a 25 year old mother of two with a double MBA ... I really prefer not to be in porn for the rest of my life and have said that from the get-go.
Dagwolf writes: "Think of it as farming. The small independents are being forced out by the giants; the giants will continue to automate and thrive."
Shap writes:
The low cost of entry will continue to hurt our industry for years to come. Making $20 a day is a joke for a US Webmaster. However if you were from Macedonia that's more than the average person makes and in the end it's worth working 8 hours for that $20. I think what we'll continue to see is big business being run in the US however less and less smaller sites in the US. As the profits go down and making a dollar becomes tougher i think some US webmasters will either step up or step out, meanwhile the number of NON US Webmasters will continue to grow.
I disagree with the main comment that young adults will never buy porn. They won't buy porn now. However once they are married, have kids and life has changed they will be interested in porn again and not the cheap shit they used to look at. They'll have the disposable income and will be looking to spend it on some high quality porn they never got to see when they were younger. I believe alot of people return to porn for the prospect of seeing something they've never seen before. Same reason guys turn their heads when they see a hot girl. They've seen a million hot girls yet every hot girl that walks by guys check out. Why? I think a large part is the prospect of seeing that one perfect woman. Same reason guys are drawn to sports, the chance of watching that one amazing moment that goes down in history. I think alot of the young adults will feel they probably didn't get to see the best porn when they were surfing for free and once they are middle aged will be ready for it.
Leggs writes:
More free photos... More free vid clips... More free cam shows... All add up to one thing.... More girls want to grow up to be whores! And with more girls flooding the market place... The price on vagina and colon gets cheaper and cheaper. Hate to say it... But that's the way the business models are going.
DollarmanSteve writes:
I think the velocity of traffic has increased almost exponentially in the adult internet. That is, the amount of clicks-per-surfer-per-session has skyrocketed due to the TGP. I think there should be an index of traffic based on velocity where velocity is a function of clicks-per-dollar-spent. For example, TGP traffic has high velocity - that is a user will have a high number of clicks per dollar spent whereas very targetted SE traffic for example has lower velocity - people know what they are looking for and when they find it are likely to buy.
So, if 7 years ago conversions to site X were 1:100 and are now 1:2000, one has to consider the sources of traffic at those two points in time. I will bet you that when the ratio was 1:100 the traffic was more heavily weighted to low-velocity traffic. Nowadays, there is such a high volume of high velocity traffic, that the proportion of the traffic send to site X is high velocity, and therefore has a worse conversion ratio based on the clicks-per-$ of the surfers.
Lenny writes:
The glut of adult webmasters has made it harder to sell porn, but has created entirely new markets. Think of the money being made by people like NATS, MPA, Stats Remote, Hosting Companies, Offshore outsourcing companies, etc etc etc. (Hell, look at GFY) These people made the webmaster their customer instead of the porn consumer and in essence turned lemons into lemonade. None of these types of companies (with the exception of hosting) could have made it back in 1998, but they're thriving now while alot of the people selling porn are struggling.
If you want to make REAL money you can't just copy what everyone else is doing. Create your own niche, start a new market, be the only one doing something and have a monopoly. By the time everyone catches up to you and copies what you're doing, you'll be ready to cash out anyways.
Alex Devine spills all about her experience on the set of Donkey Punch
She (is she Smokey's girlfriend from Shane's World) posts March 6, 2006 on Extremegirlforum.com:
Ok, I am finally going to reply to this.... DONKEY PUNCH was the most brutal, depressing, scarey scene that I have ever done. I have tried to block it out from my memory due to the severe abuse I recieved during the filming. I had been made to believe that the scene was going to be more sex, penetration, and rough as opposed to being 'beat up' with a few penetrations. The guy, Steve French has a natural hatred towards women in the sense that he has always been known to be more brutal than EVER needed. I agreed to do the scene thinking it was less beating, except the 'punch' in the head. If you noticed, steve had worn his solid gold ring the entire time, and continued to punch me with it. I actually stopped the scene while it was being filmed because I was in too much pain. I begged for him to remove the ring but he refused. That almost made me walk off the set and say 'fuck it'. I sucked it up and wanted to finish so i would be paid. Witht he ring on his hand still, we continued the scene.
**Now i am not sure how much you all know about me, but I have had some major surgeries on my head. One was on the lower back right of my skull.... The doctor never replaced the bone there because it grows back on its own. It had been several years since that surgery, and i now have grown a strong cartilage in place of my missing bone.
I had specifically explained that Steve could not hit that spot, and that anywhere else on my head was fine. I explained this to him as well, showing him on my head the places. He acknowledged the request of mine. As the pop happened he punched me several times in the head. Exactly where he was told not to. He did it with the ring on too.
*You can hear me scream in pain 'wrong side! ow, ow, wrong side!' in the movie and trailer. I had to re-do the pop shot/donkey punch for 'better footage' while in pain, and he wore the damn ring again. At the end of my scene they had me sit on the couch with the directors and explain that I was ok and was willing to do the scene.
I was in tears I sincerely hope that no one enjoys that scene. I want to cry when I think about it.
Chaim Perplexed by His Own Handiwork
He writes:
That such (apparently) gorgeous women should come to you via the ad I placed on Craigslist (an ad that includes one of the most bizarre photographs I've ever seen on the internet, by the way) simply astonishes me. Again, the only difference between this ad and the others is the the inclusion of that photograph, so it isn't because I did a better job of writing you up the second time. It's that photograph, By contrast, the women who I've encountered via Craigslist here in NY have been at about where I expected them to be - dregs both mentally ill and physically unfavored by providence.
Please, post this puzzle to your general readership, present it to your friends and family, because I really have to know. This points to something that has been eluding me all this time, and I have to know what it is.
Note, the text is the same!
And nobody mentioned that pic!
I LOVE THAT PIC! I'm going to use it on Myspace for my profile.
Honestly, what does it say about women that the addition of THAT pic should pique their interest?
If you use that pic on your web site, say it is me, Chaim Amalek, preparing for a night on the town. And that the photographer was Holly. That I was modeling the wedding gown she is going to wear when she weds you.
Let me see what these women look like ie, forward their pics to me. I want to better judge the lure of a stuffed, wheeled deer wearing a wedding gown.
You HAVE to ask each of these women about the photos. Honestly, this is driving me nuts.
I found this pic more disturbing than any I've yet seen on Holly's website.
Cheyenne Hunter Interview
She calls me Saturday night. "I like to read. We printed out your articles and some of them are very interesting. I know that people have mixed feelings about articles, especially if they are not rosy and glamorous.
"I've been in the industry for a while and I have many of the same grievances that you do. I have the same love/hate relationship with it. You brought up a lot of valid points that I've been saying. I do the same thing and people don't like it. They say, 'If you say that, then why do you do it?' Well, I'm managing my money and I'm going to stay until I can't, but that doesn't mean I don't have plans for my future.
"Did you go to Adultcon today?"
Luke: "No."
Cheyenne: "We didn't either. We pondered for two hours. We were going to go to the Rainbow room last night, but we drive such a big vehicle. In California, they accommodate compact parking. My truck is over 7' tall. We don't fit in the parking garage. If it is $20 for parking, they double it for my truck. Then to pay to get in... It was going to cost us $40 a piece to get in to Adultcon.
"We're debating about going to Club Rio. We're waiting to hear from a friend, whether she can get us in. I work in a strip club. I'm not going to pay to get in. A juice bar to boot. Then sit there and feel guilty if I don't tip everybody.
"Do you attend a lot of parties?"
Luke: "I attend a few, and only when I get a press pass."
I never buy drinks or spend money.
Cheyenne: "We're from the East Coast. We don't know what to hit while we're here. We don't want to spend our money unnecessarily or waste our time.
"I was reading your articles and I said, 'Now I know why he gets the flak that he does.'
"You can make a living at this if you live your life like a construction worker. If you are a construction worker in the North-East, be prepared to only work four months out of the year.
"I live in a place that costs $2,000 a month, plus I have four mortgages to pay.
"I came out here in January for 12 days and I was booked so heavily that my head was spinning.
"I know what you're doing and where you're going. You're trying to put truth out there. I really don't care whether someone likes me or hates me.
"Now porn and featuring go hand-in-hand. When I first got into this [in the 80s], they wanted you to be a showgirl. You did the costumes. I'll get up for 20 minutes and do a full show. If I do Little Red Riding Hood, I have six pieces to the costume. Each song, I take a piece of clothing off. They don't do that anymore.
"In Massachusetts, you had to do a theme show, four a night. You had to audition to get in the club. You could buy costumes from the girls that worked there regularly.
"There was no lap dancing or table dancing or grind dancing.
"The better your show, the better shifts they would give you. If you were just starting, you would not work a Friday or Saturday night.
"You didn't mingle with the customers. You'd just do your show.
"The feature industry frowned upon porn girls, figuring that they did not know the steps or how to put a theme show on, which was true. They'd just come out in lingerie, do a mixture of songs, and walk off.
"I liked the featuring because it had artism. I loved to dance."
Luke: "When did you start doing this?"
Cheyenne: "I was 17. I don't want to say the year. Women and their age is taboo.
"I did it because I was the complete opposite. I did not have a broken home but I was not a popular child at school.
"You wrote an article that people get in for something lack, be it attention or money... You were hitting every point that I have now.
"I was in the band in highschool. I was awkward. I didn't have any boyfriends. My dad was a business owner, a cop and a captain of the sheriff's department. My father knew what I did every second of the day.
"I was more tomboyish. I drove a motorcycle to school. I did motorcross. My dad took my date to the prom. It was embarrassing. I got made fun of. Because of the lack of attention from the boys, when I got up on the stage, it was different.
"I didn't sleep with anyone until my boyfriend, who was a couple of years younger than me. I was 19.
"My father is from Armenia. My mother is Native American (Cheyenne). They're strict. Boys were afraid of my father.
"I liked the dancing part. I could put on a costume and act that part.
"I told my father I was modelling. I told him I was going to go model. He found out. He was furious. My hair was to my knees. He grabbed my hair and said, 'I didn't raise a whore. That's what whores do.' He didn't speak to me for three years. For people of Arabic descent, you are dead to them.
"I was afraid of my father. When I wasn't making the money I was used to, of course I wanted to call my father. But I didn't want to hear, 'I told you so.'
"I graduated highschool and I went on to college for two years. That's what he wanted. If I knew then what I know now, I would've done it differently."
Luke: "Would you still have become a stripper and a porn star?"
Cheyenne: "Probably not.
"I was brought up to trust your police officer, your clergyman, your doctor and your lawyer. Those are now the top ones you can't trust.
"I would probably have gone further in my education and done something that I could do when I'm 50 and 60. It is more stable and more respected. I am not ashamed of what I've done. I tell people straight up.
"In relationships, if I tell people my real name and come off as a regular person, they're fine. Say you go out to dinner and you meet people and 'What do you do for work?' is a common question.
"'I'm an entertainer.' 'What kind of entertainer?' 'Dancer.' 'What kind of dance? Tap, jazz, ballet?' 'I do interpretative dance.' 'What is that?' 'Interpret it as you want. I'm a gentleman's entertainment technician.' 'What's that?' 'It's just a fancy term for an adult entertainer.
"Then they zip it.
"If you are ashamed of what you're doing, then you shouldn't be doing it."
Luke: "What percentage of people still relate to you as a human being after they find out?"
Cheyenee: "A small percentage, in the 1-2%, and that includes friends I've had for 20 years. I do not have one real friend. My only friend is Antonio. We've been together six years. He was a civilian."
Luke: "You've had your ups and downs."
Cheyenne: "Oh yeah.
"At first, it's great for the civilian man. He's starry eyed. After six months, it's 'You're a whore. You're a slut. You can go ---- anyone you want.' Nine out of ten times, they cheat on you because of that.
"One of the reasons that Antonio came in was, 'If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.' He loves me enough. He's a chef and bartender by trade. His parents are in the Italian restaurant business.
"He was with me. He didn't care for [Adult]. He worked two fulltime jobs seven days a week in New Hampshire and kept me out of circuit because he didn't care for it.
"He was fine until people found out what I did. He lost jobs because of me.
"For most girls in this industry, whether they feature or do porn, the guys don't work.
"Antonio was trying to take care of my responsibilities. I did invest in property. I did have bills to pay. I wasn't just somebody with an $800 a month apartment. I had four mortgages.
"I've done regular jobs, from Dunkin' Donuts to mucking stables.
"I had dominatrix clients who paid me good money. I promised him I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't go see them.
"We were financially hurting. He was killing himself. He was up at 5 a.m. and he'd come home at 3 a.m. I told him, 'I need to go back.'
"We split for six months. He moved to Tennessee. We got back together. He said, 'Why don't I come with you? I'll try doing what you do and we'll see how that works.'"
Luke: "Can you respect a man who takes a strap-on and follows you around as your roadie?"
Cheyenne: "I can because when I met him, he worked three jobs. When he came to New Hampshire, he worked two. He's worked since he was 14. He helped support his parents.
"I have not yet seen a strap-on scene. He's not known for that. It's work. We don't go walking out there and that's all we talk about. For a few minutes, yeah.
"I henpeck like a normal wife. If he plays videogames, I tell him to get off his ass and take the garbage out. Can you pick up?
"I'm not a quitter, even though I bit off more than I could chew...
"I'd love to be tearing it up every night, walking around with bling-bling, but I have financial responsibilities. I want to be stable, secure, self-reliant...
"Now all the clubs care about is how many movies have you done, how many guys have you banged, how many holes did you get into your body...
"It's a minimum of $1200 a week to live on the road. They don't tell you that if your ankle breaks [you're out of work].
"I'd love to put out a list of what you don't know when you get into this.
"Do you think it is healthy for girls to be screwing seven days a week like this? They don't tell you about urinary tract infections, your rectum destroyed. Common sense tells you that if your vagina is hurting, you have a problem. Common sense tells you that if you are getting a lot of hemorrhoids, that is a problem.
"I know girls who go home and urinate blood. I tell them to get down to AIM.
"She tells me that she's from the East Coast and on her first day she did three anal scenes and her ass is bleeding.
"I went on a scene the other day and it hurt to penetrate [vaginally]. They said, 'Do you think it might be the position?' I said, 'We can try that. But if it hurts, I'm not doing it.'
"It turned out I had a kidney infection.
"If they don't know at AIM, they will refer you.
"You don't know what problems you will get ten years from now because you wanted to make $2,000 on that scene.
"I don't care what kind of infection it is, it takes at least three days for antibiotics to hit your system. They'll tell you shouldn't have sex for six days. You shouldn't drink.
"If you get diagnosed with a UTI, why would you think you could work the next day?
"Mainstream people drag themselves to work when they are sick too. But mainstream people who live on $300 a week live on $300 a week. There are families of four and six who live on $300 a week.
"People who make [porn] money make it quick and it dries up quick."
Luke: "How long do you plan to stay in the industry?"
Cheyenne: "The next few years are going to be my closure to it. I'm being a workaholic to get as much as I can."
Luke: "When you were a kid, what did you want to be when you grew up?"
Cheyenne: "A veterinarian.
"My father wanted me to be well-off. He wanted me to be with a successful guy.
"Everything costs money except going for a walk. If you want to take a ride to the beach and walk, that costs money for gas."
Luke: "How did he adjust to your working in Adult?"
Cheyenne: "He didn't. He passed away almost 20 years ago. My mother passed away when I was 12. She had an aneurism."
Luke: "Have you kept any friends from childhood?"
Cheyenne: "They are more acquaintances."
Luke: "Do you have any true friends in the industry?"
Cheyenne: "No. You don't see them enough. You're in and out.
"If you die with one true friend, you're lucky.
"When I'm dancing, I give a $100 prize to anybody who can tell me what state New Hampshire is in. That's the inner joke when I do my Texas tour. 'All the way from Lebanon, New Hampshire...' People ask me all the time, 'What state is New Hampshire in?'
"I feel much safer on the road with Antonio. He cleans the stage off for me. He's with the bar people. Every second in that club, he knows where I am.
"If I do a private show, he's with me. He's right outside that door. A guy is going to be less likely to play monkey games if somebody is outside.
"It's lonely by yourself. I'm more apt to get into trouble by myself than I am with him. Alone, I'd get a lot more people wanting to hang out with me in my room.
"He does the driving. He's better with directions than I am. I don't like to read a map. He handles the loading and unloading. I do the paperwork and the banking and he does the manly work.
"So far it's working. I cant predict that we're going to be together for 20 years. Not even civilian normal people can determine that.
"We're going to Porn Star Karaoke Tuesday. That's my shot. If I could've been a singer and made a lot of money, I would've done it. Now they have karaoke for us wannabes."
Why Do Men Talk To Strippers?
A religious friend calls me: "I have friends, married men in their forties and fifties, who spend an inordinate amount of time in strip clubs getting lapdances and talking to these girls about anything and everything."
Luke: "Men love to talk to beautiful women. A beautiful woman opens up a man's heart whether she's a stripper or not. See the movie Beautiful Girls."
Fired For Talking About God?
Heather Veitch from JCsgirls.com writes on her blog:
I went out to Virginia to be on the 700 club. I have to tell you that I was so nervous because I had heard a rumor that Pat Robertson did not support Christians that went to the porn convention. This turned out to be totally bogus. I have so much respect for the people that I met at the CBN campus. They were all so on fire for God and everywhere I went they were sharing with me there amazing ideas on how to reach more people for Christ. It was so exiting to spend two days in the presence of so many Christians that were so inspirational...
We have girls that have joined up with different groups at church and then after time let the other woman in the group know that they have been in porn or stripping. Also we have a group of strippers that have been attending and one of them even got fired for going back to work and talking about God too much. She was asked by her job if she is affiliated with JC’s Girls in anyway. She told them that she attended the church where the JC’s Girls ministry is based. The next day when she came to work she was fired.
Ex-Stripper Spreads Gospel to Those in Sex Industry - Heather Veitch and volunteers do their evangelizing in strip clubs and online. James DiGiorgio reports.
Luke: I
am enjoying that Times article.
Heather: I wasnt crazy about it.
Luke: why not?
Heather: ummm I just think it doesnt have much of the fact that I really
care and that I have real friends in the industry that keep me motivated
to keep doind what I do.
Luke: it is still a good story
Heather: I tried to tell him that the real story is not just going into
strip clubs but that it is making friends
Heather: ya... but I do so much more that I want christians to know
aubade \oh-BAHD\, noun: A song or poem greeting the dawn; also, a composition suggestive of morning.
And there he lingered by Holly's side till the growing cock...
Sang his aubade with lusty voice and clear.
Saturday night. 10:40 p.m.
KendraJade: I am bored. Entertain me.
Luke: what's new?
Luke: where are you?
KendraJade: Nothing.
KendraJade: I'm in Springfield, Il.
KendraJade: I come home tomorrow
KendraJade: I'm in between shows and I'm bored out of my mind.
KendraJade: They told me the place I'm in is haunted so it's kinda scary.
KendraJade: I'm starting my fast tomorrow.
Luke: good
KendraJade: Okay Mr. One word answer. You're boring.
Luke: what are you reading?
KendraJade: A book called " The Dirt" . Its about the band Motley Crue.
KendraJade: Its a biography-ish KendraJade: Type book
KendraJade: Its written by Neil Strauss, the same guy who wrote Jenna's
book. KendraJade: He is a good writer , but what I don't like is his lack
of consistency when telling a story. He bounces around a lot.
Luke: do you find your work meaningful?
KendraJade: My work ? Dancing ?
KendraJade: Depends how you look at it.
KendraJade: It is meaningful to the guy who paid 25 bucks at the door
to come in and see me.
KendraJade: It's meaningful to the girls at the club who aspire to do
what I do..
Luke: You are a role model
KendraJade: Scary thought, huh ?
Luke: Seriously, do you find meaning in your work? Where?
KendraJade: Sadly , no.
KendraJade: I find meaning in various other things, but not a stage.
KendraJade: I don't know many people who do find meaning in their work
, though.
Luke: I do.
KendraJade: Unless you're a doctor, or a missionary.
KendraJade: Writers can be meaningful.
KendraJade: But I don't see a lot of meaning in what you typically write
about.
Luke: damn, I do
KendraJade: How so ?
Luke: It's focused on the meaning people find or do not find in their
lives.
Luke: what they wanted to be as kids, what they love and hate about their
lives today
KendraJade: No its not.
KendraJade: Its focused on who's doing what , and to whom abd who is fighting
with whom
KendraJade: And what holly does while driving on the 405
KendraJade: And what rob says while on set
KendraJade: And what I type when I'm bored...
Luke: I say about a third of what I publish has meaning
Luke: what % would you give it?
KendraJade: 20%
Luke: ok, we see it the same way
Luke: i have to cover a lot of stuff that does not have meaning to do
the minority stuff that does have meaning
KendraJade: 20 percent is not a third
Luke: More than 50% of my work outside of porn has meaning to me
KendraJade: I am about to go onstage now. Ill let you know if I find any
meaning after I see how much money I make.
Holly Randall replies:
When I do a really good shoot it means a lot to me. And of course these great shoots don't happen all the time -- I'm probably the same as you as in I'm only really excited about 1/4 of what I shoot. Maybe more because I do enjoy other aspects of my work-- getting feeback from the fans, seeing my sets published in magazines, seeing my membership numbers jump, hehe...
Actually saying that only a 1/4 of my work has meaning to it sounds wrong. I don't like the way figures play out here. I love my job, as I have said many times. I think I find more pleasure in my work than 95% of people on this planet.
> I figured you get most of your meaning from applying lube to pussies.
I get meaning out of making girls look sexy and beautiful. I like transforming people. I like capturing a woman's sexual energy on film.
Helpful writes:
As a teacher my meaningful index varies sharply daily. I feel like a lot of my work is just crap. Discipline. Paperwork. Pointless meetings. Maybe 50% of my efforts bring true rewards, but when it does it's priceless. The kids make it worth it, not the pay check. BTW Luke, if your index is lower console yourself that I've never had a 18-year old want to f--- me because I was a good teacher. Never.
Khunrum writes:
Let's hear it for pointless meetings and dim witted administrators. I agree with Helpful, the students make it worthwhile. Especially the few female students I had affairs with. And now, that I'm retired, I kinda miss it.
Last Fourth of July I was watching fireworks along the East River chatting with a NYC teacher. He said they are begging for teachers. And what about teaching ESL (English as a Second Language)? I'm considering doing that part time. You get to meet and educate all those young foreign bodies.
ExtremeAssociates.com Lost Its CCBill Billing
Rob Black posts: "We got a phone call, and a letter today from CC-Bill saying they were shutting us down due to violations. Because our site had piss, puke, blood, violence, slapping, fake guns, fake knives and other assorted things we were violating policy and therefore made inactive."
Wired Guy writes on JBM: "Nope, the affiliate program seems very sloppy and unorganized. Not to mention that its only being processed with a single biller and doesn't seem to have cascading and the last thing I'd want is to be put under investigation by promoting a company being investigated for obsenity."
I call the Florida talent agent Friday afternoon.
Tyler: "There's so much bad s--- being said. I wanted to tell my story.
"We're a new management company, under a year old. We've made some mistakes. I've had some wonderful girls and a few bad apples. Our personalities clashed or they had their own issues."
Maya Hills was Tyler's first star. Desiree was the first one to speak out against Tyler.
Tyler: "Every person I've worked with can not say that I did not try to take care of them. I picked them up from the airport. I provided them a place to stay. I provided them transportation. I get along with everybody I work with. Unfortunately, there's been some personality conflicts between girls and my fiance [Brian]. I've taken measures to make sure that those things don't happen again. If and when we go to LA next, it will be just me going.
"There was a time when I had some legal issues and I wasn't allowed to leave the state.
"One girl here had been screwed over. She worked somewhere for three weeks and left with $250. Her first trip to me was a complete success. Mia called her and told her she didn't need management. The girl said, 'I tried to find work on my own and I found nothing but problems. Tyler has kept me safe.'
"Mia said she had to jump out of my car.
"She had called me to say she really needed money. She had just changed her address and needed rent money. I went out of my way and got her something. This is a girl who does not drive. I've driven an hour out of my way to pick her up and take her to something and then taken her home. It was out in Miami. I live in Palm Beach.
"I made her about $1300. I got her something else. She said, 'I've got my rent money. I don't feel like doing it anymore.' Fine. I cancelled it.
"The second time she called me: 'I need money. I just changed addresses again. I need rent money.' I told her that the only thing I had going for the weekend was this foot fetish thing. She said, 'Please book it for me.'
"Then I got a last-minute call for a girl to do an anal scene. I called her. She said, 'Yes, please.' I booked it.
"She ended up getting there late. The shoot ran late. She missed the train. I drove all the way down to Fort Lauderdale to pick her up.
"When I got there, she started complaining about the foot fetish. She said, 'I don't want anybody touching my feet.'
"In the car ride, I asked for my commission. I only take a 10% commission from the girls. Most people take 15%.
"She started throwing a fit about it [about two weeks ago]. She had made the money she needed. She said, 'I just want to get out.' I said, 'I'll pull over and let you out.' I stopped at a red light. She hopped out of my jeep and took off.
"I really do care about these girls. I want to see them do well. I want to see them succeed. I want them to be safe while they're doing it. And I want them to have a good time while they're doing it."
Luke: "What about Maya Hills?"
Tyler: "Before her last trip to California, she was telling me she was really unhappy and was thinking about getting out of the business and go back to school. I was like, 'Hey, then do it. I'll support you 100% on whatever it is you want to do.'
"She asked me to email her contract to her lawyer. I had it on my old computer and my scanner wasn't working. She asked if she could just pick it up. I said, 'I'll let you out of it.'
"I was really close with Maya. She moved a mile and a half away from me. We were together every day, whether it was to get coffee or to get our nails done, go to the gym, working, etc.
"She said, 'Thank you very much. I just want you to know that I am not with another agent. If I decide to get back into this, I'll do it on my own.'
"Then another friend forwarded an email saying that if you want to book Maya Hills, go to this website, where she was featured. It was the email address Maya had sent to me saying it was her lawyer.
"Of course I'm upset. I did love Maya. I cared about her. I did miss her.
"Who am I to be a bitch and stand in anyone's way?"
Luke: "What's Brian's role in your company?"
Tyler: "We are equal partners. I take care of the front half of the business. I talk to the girls and go to LA with them. Brian deals with the back half, with the bookings and business end. I'm out running girls around to their shoots and taking care of their needs.
"I decided to let Brian handle that last trip to LA because I couldn't go. That trip was the disaster of a lifetime. Every ten minutes, my phone rang. I have three phones. All of them were ringing. Every time it was a worse disaster than the one beforehand."
Luke: "There's nothing you can do if a girl gets a disease."
Tyler: "Exactly. The girls ended up with STDs and couldn't work. They were thousands of miles from home and they couldn't work.
"A lot of the stuff that happened out there, such as between Desiree and the other girls, wouldn't have happened if I was out there. If I was racist, why would I have an African-American girl stay in my home, and drive her around, and do a job for them? The guy didn't want to book her for the foot fetish. I said, what if I work too and we work together? He said all right. I said, give her an extra $150 out of what you were going to pay me. I can't say, 'The white girls are getting this amount and you're only getting that.' That's rude. I did the shoot for $100 and gave the rest to her. And I don't shoot. There was no nudity. There was no penetration.
"I had this girl Maxxx from Mark Spiegler who wanted to work with me. I said I wouldn't without Mark's permission. She forwarded me his email that it was fine for her to go to Florida and work with me. She came out for four days. I booked her with various companies. She had a great time."
Tyler talks about 200 words a minute.
"As a recovering addict, I can understand when a girl has a drug problem. I've gone to meetings with girls. I'm ten months clean. There was one time in my life where I felt like I could not live without drugs and I did not care what happened to me. Today there is no way in hell that I could live with them.
"It's sad to see girls with trackmarks or their pupils are so small, their eyes are so dilated. I can just see the pain in her eyes. I have young girls who have a set of false teeth because their original teeth have worn away and had to be pulled out, only to see that their false teeth aren't any better. I say, I know you're doing drugs. It takes one to know one. I talk about my own experiences and let them open up to me."
Luke: "How do drugs affect your teeth?"
Tyler: "The resin...from smoking crystal meth or heroin or crack corrode your teeth and gum. Your dentist can tell you if you smoke anything including weed.
"I try to do the whole 12-step thing. You can only keep what you have by giving it away.
"I've taken girls with me to NA meetings. I enjoy going to them. Wow, here are some girls who can look up to me. I struggled with drugs for 12 years. I'm not proud of where I've been but I'm proud to say I came out of it.
"I've thought that I did not want to do [management] anymore. The old Tyler would've run away. But now, I have to push through it. In two weeks, no one will remember it. It will be old news.
"I love travelling. I love meeting people. I love making money. I love making other people money.
"I am being much more choosey about who I take to LA, just because of all the things that have been said out there about me and my company. The only way to combat that is to come out with a strong roster of girls who are wonderful.
"I was upset for a while, just because so much of what was said wasn't true."
Luke: "How's Brian holding up?"
Tyler: "He's doing ok other than that he's not going to be going on another trip to California with Tyler's Talent. He said, 'I could go too.' I said, 'If you and me are going to go on vacation, then you and me are going to go on a cruise around the Bahamas. There's been too much.' There have been rumors that it is his company and I am just a front, a robot. He tells me what to say, which is untrue.
"I probably could not do it without him but I can comfortably say that this is not his company. If it was Brian's Talent, there would be no company."
The Nominees for Best All-Girl Blasphemy Scene Are...
Mike Ramone writes on the AVN blog:
According to www.wankus.blogspot.com, some religious porn fans (now there's a contradiction in terms) are all tweaked over a scene in Faith's Fantasies from Team Tyler in which Nicole Sheridan as a nun gets ravished by Tyler Faith and Kinzie Kenner as they scream out such ditties as "f--- her like the Lord would on Sunday" and "f--- me Jesus.... f--- me...I want to be born again!"
Bornyo writes:
Attacking Christianity is a tactic of the weak, Ramone. You can rant and rave about it amongst your atheist friends but you can't remove the lingering guilt when you fall asleep at night. You know your hedonistic, selfish and sinful lifestyle will lead to an eternity in Hell.
Wankus remains a pussy. Shooting blasphemous scenes and activities is just a way to draw attention to an otherwise mediocre cast and product. If they really wanted to be cutting edge they'd film women in burkas being sodomized by negroes and smeared with pork but of course, it's only acceptable to offend Christians.
Wankus responds:
Attacking Chrisianity? Perhaps you should see the movie. There's no attack, just a fantasy. The entire movie is a collection of fantasies including a massage therapist, a cop, a maid, etc. Stop trying to make it more than what it is just for an opportunity to blast me.
You call the cast mediocre with hot stars like Tyler Faith, Jenna Haze, Mari Possa, Nicole Sheridan, Sandra Romain, Brooke Haven, Kinzie Kenner, Rebecca Love and Regan Anthony? Seems like a pretty f---in' all-star cast to everyone else I talk to but maybe Fresh Off the Bus girls are more elite in your opinion.
Calm down Wank-hater. It's only a movie. And a damn good one. Stop slamming your pud against the box cover cause ya don't like the director and start jerkin' it while enjoying the hot, well-done flick.
Mike Ramone writes:
My, it's easy to push Bornyo's believer buttons. For those of you who don't who he is, Bornyo is one of those curious, self-contradicting religious porn fans I mentioned above. Some day soon, please do tell how you rationalize being a Christian and being into porn?
"Attacking Christianity is a tactic of the weak." Please. Poor little Christianity is the world's most dominant religion, and as such, is richly deserving of such attacks considering its abominable track record. I'm no Christian, but I apparently know more about the subject matter than do you, who, good little indoctrinated sheep that you seem to be, apparently swallows the whole myth lock, stock and barrel without using your mind to question its obvious lunacy. Sort of like those still asleep inside the nice, warm, safe illusion of The Matrix (aka religion). Bornyo undoubtedly feels guilt when he even considers questioning his indoctrinated belief system, poor bastard. Wake up.
"You can't remove the lingering guilt when you fall asleep at night. You know your hedonistic, selfish and sinful lifestyle will lead to an eternity in Hell." Unfortunately, those statements say much more about what's inside your guilt-addled, fearful mind than what's inside mine. See how miserable religion makes people? Bornyo seems to be so intellectually constipated that he can't even conceive that many others have no religious-based guilt or fear of the mythological Hell and see sex as a perfectly natural activity as long as it's between consenting adults.
"It's only acceptable to offend Christians." Uh, perhaps you've heard of the legions of Muslims worldwide who staged deadly, bloody demonstrations cause they were offended by Danish newspaper cartoons portraying Muhammad as a terrorist? Accurately so, I might add. Christianity gets lambasted in American popular culture more so than other religions because Christianity is the dominant religion in the U.S., duh, but I’m all for some good, blasphemous porn skewering Islam too. Bornyo really needs to stop deep throating that Religious Right/Catholic League propaganda about "it's only acceptable to offend Christians."
Now enough of this intellectualizin' Bornyo. Take Wankus' advice and start jackin' to Nicole, Faith and Kinzie mouthing all sorts of wicked blasphemies. The porn truth shall make your sperm free.
Dick Smothers Jr Interview Continued
Luke: "But you didn't seem to internalize the lesson of how much devastation he wrought with his promiscuity."
Dick: "I wouldn't say 'wreaking devastation.' It was more the damage he caused by being self-absorbed. He wanted to run on his own schedule and his own whim.
"I didn't get that [lesson about promiscuity] at all, only in so far as it directly affected myself. It was more like, I want to have that kind of fun. I want to be the guy that does that. I don't want to be the one who gets left at home.
"I was completely disconnected. Intellectually, I could've recognized that, but as far as internalizing it, no I didn't.
"The process began when my wife left me and my mom died."
Luke: "Do you think you can be sexually promiscuous and not wreak havoc on other people's lives?"
Dick: "I don't think so because there are always emotions connected to it. Even if you are just dating somebody, you are being intimate. Part of you has to be either in denial or messed up to be able to have sex and to have it mean nothing.
"I can't just date. If I don't like somebody enough to have an exclusive relationship, then I just won't have anything to do with them. I know other people for whom this seems to be easy but somebody has to be getting hurt somewhere. Even if you are not making promises. Even if you are being straight forward and saying, 'Look, I am just f------ you.'
"You're dead right."
Luke: "How many women have you slept with in your life?"
Dick: "I started having sex when I had just turned 13. A couple hundred."
Luke: "How do you think that has affected your soul?"
Dick: "I don't think it has affected my soul. The path of excess can lead to the palace of wisdom. My experiences have led me to be more true to who he is. I have an enormous amount of integrity now and I don't violate it. I will not manipulate emotionally. I will not go after something just because it is something I want if it could hurt someone else.
"To get those things out of my system... Those things we do because of insecurity or ego. I don't feel the need to impress anybody. Any time anyone tries to one-up me, I can go, 'Dude, I used to ---- girls for a living.' If we're going to butt heads like that, I'm armed to the teeth.
"I was able to get all that ego crap out of my system. I have no insecurities about my abilities as a man and my value as a lover.
"My main issues revolve around being able to go out there and make a living as normal people do. I dropped out of highschool. I was a musician. The only training I've had is as a singer.
"I have friends who own houses and businesses. I'm still working it out."
She calls me back Friday afternoon and gets right to the point. "I just called to tell you that I do not have a new agent. I have not done any scenes since last month, the last time I was out. I'm no longer in the Adult world, or modeling or acting. I'm pursuing a college education. I'm back to becoming a mortgage broker. And that's all."
Luke: "Congratulations."
Maya: "I'm calling to let you know that. Take me off your list or whatever. I'm not in that world anymore. OK?"
She's eager to be off the phone but I want to know more.
Luke: "Someone was speaking in your name. Saying they were your new agent."
Maya: "A lot of people say stuff that isn't true."
Luke: "So that was completely false? The person who was speaking in your name and saying you were coming back?"
Maya: "I'm just not going to comment. There was a possibility that I was going to do shoots. I just realized it's not the agents. It's not anything else. It's not the money. It's just not worth it.
"Right now I'm involved with a man. We're living together. I'm very happy. We're getting along great. I'm very happy that I left."
Luke: "That's awesome."
Maya: "I just wanted to let you know that. OK?"
She's eager to be gone. Why would she want to talk to porn people any longer?
Luke: "Good luck."
Maya: "Thank you. Bye, bye."
We were once all giggly and excited to chat. But now she's older and wiser. She's a completely different woman from the one I first spoke to in late December 2005. Then she had moved to be within a couple of miles from her beloved agent and big sister Tyler Young.
Maya Hills was as excited and loveable as any 18-year old girl could be when she entered porn five months ago. She was a girl that made many jaded pornographers such as Holly Randall believe that their work was good and honorable not to mention fun and exciting.
Holly looked at Maya as a girl who had her act together and was buying a house and setting up clothing companies with her earnings from porn. That porn had empowered Maya to have a great life like Holly and Suze and Humphry have, that Malibu ranch and new cars and horses and fabulous parties and generous gifts to needy folk such as myself.
Maya was all over boxcovers and the front page of suze.net.
I loved to talk to Maya. She made you believe that porn was not just a meatgrinder. That a woman with intelligence and grace could come through it unscathed.
Then as 2006 developed, I heard about bad things hitting Maya. There was the exhaustion from working every day, she got told by a shooter or two to lose weight, that was devastating to her self-esteem, she began fasting until she passed out on a set and had to be hospitalized. She had a nervous breakdown.
Maya's last trip to Los Angeles was horrible. It was filled with tension and dissent among the Tyler girls. Several of them got diagnosed with STDs. Maya learned she had gonorrhea. She had to cancel thousands of dollars of work. She was stuck thousands of miles from home with nothing to do.
But out of all the drama, Maya found love. Now she has a man and she wants to spend the rest of her life with him alone. She no longer welcomes the shallow adoration of dozens of photographers and thousands of fans when she has a taste of real love.
Maya's gone from porn. I wonder how many friends will she decide to keep from the industry? I bet zero. I bet she believes now that none of them were her true friends.
I didn't get to ask her but I'm sure she regrets her time in porn. I doubt it's anything she's proud of. But you won't to get to hear the perspectives of girls like her, the 99% who come in and out of the industry in a short time. They don't want to talk about their time in porn because in retrospect they find it shameful. When people are proud of what they do, they like to talk about it. Almost everyone wants the world to know about the good things they do (and most porners think they're work is good) and almost nobody wants to publicly reveal their shame.
Friday, 6:45 p.m. Maya Hills leaves this message: "I was just in contact with a friend of mine. I don't think you know her. Marina. I really would appreciate that you just do not comment on me period. This is just gossip. I am out of this world. I do not want to ruin her reputation. She's a very good friend of mine. She was trying to help me to get bookings. I thought I wanted to go back into the adult world. But I did not want to name any names because I don't believe in that and I want nothing to do with that. I really would appreciate for you not to trash anybody. I would appreciate if you would rewrite it. Yes, she did once represent me but the bookings were all cancelled.
"Honestly, why do you need to write about me? There are so many big stars out there. I'm nothing. I would really prefer you to never speak my name again."
Brandon Iron writes:
I don't like to stir things up but when Maya said "Right now I'm involved with a man" I naturally thought she meant me. I have photographic proof (attached) that she and I were indeed an item. Our romance lasted about 35 minutes before she went her way and I went mine. I will cherish our time together forever...and put it out in TEN LITTLE PIGGIES #8. Of course, Maya will be on the cover. Street date is April 13th.
>V. clever.
Just adding in some humor to the usual mud-slinging that goes on in the biz. Maya is a great girl. Glad she found happiness but you never know how long things last. She could have done very well for herself but it's cool if she decided otherwise.