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Bill Margold Interview
I chat with Bill by phone Monday evening about Randy Kaplan's comments
on Jim Holliday below.
Bill: "I've had a lot of wars with AVN people. I don't remember
Randy coming up to me that day I put Holliday in the hall of fame [at
the Bel Age in 1995]. By that time I had figured out, as you put, that
he is a pompous blowhard.
"Randy aka Rich Leather was one of many Rich Leathers at that time.
Many people wrote under that name [for AVN in the '90s]. He fell out of
favor with me over a review of the Robert Stoller book [Coming Attractions]."
Rich Leather reviews the book for AVN (10/93 p.114):
Almost everyone comes off as sane, likeable, capable and professional.
Two glaring exceptions: Bill Margold and Jim Holliday. Margold's stream-of-consciousness
riff opens the transcripts in the book, and what an ugly consciousness
is revealed: juvenile, egotistical, crude and full of hate.
"He didn't admit he for a long time that he was Rich Leather.
"Until that review, he was harmless. He was typical of the rollie-pollies
that they hire at AVN. You could put together a professional football
line with the tonnage they've had there. I didn't think much of him until
he wrote that I bloviated in the book. I didn't think that I bloviated
in the book. I was me. There would've been more bloviation had I not changed
everything back to the truth.
"Stoller always said that he would protect the innocent and I said,
nobody's innocent in my life.
"The book came out during a time that Holliday and I were estranged.
The reconciliation began in '94 and culminated in '95.
"I missed Holliday. There was a strange phone call about some accident.
A guy said that I had hit him. I said, I didn't have anything to do with
that. He said, well, your name is Jim Holliday, isn't it? I asked, well,
how is he? I mean, how am I?
"I realized what Holliday had done -- given him my address and name.
I thought that decided that he and I were linked. I'll help even my enemies.
Viper had been gone for three years. I was always concerned with what
Holliday was up to.
"After I excoriated [Randy Kaplan] for making a fool of himself
with me, he shows up at a convention in Las Vegas around 1998. I had a
bunch of people at my booth. He called me after the convention and told
me that he knew things about those people. I said, what do you know about
those people? He said, I'm not going to tell you. And he wouldn't.
"To me, ignorance is bliss. He said, I can get you in a lot of trouble.
I said, get me in trouble. That's my middle name.
"You know Hart Williams. That's your nightmare. Hart Williams smokes
cigarettes like an SS officer, with the back-hand hold.
"I befriend him immediately when he came into the business. Then,
when he lost his job at Hustler, the first thing he said to me was, now
that I don't have any value to you, you probably won't like me anymore.
"I adopted him even closer. He'd been wronged by Hustler. He went
to work at Adam. He played on a [flag football] team I had played on in
1983."
How did you guys fall out?
"I'm not sure. Because he was never really allowed to be part of
the XRCO. That was more Holliday. Holliday and I had equal command of
the XRCO. The other three kids -- Ken Dawson, Kent Smith and Lon Friend
-- went along for the ride. We later made Jared [Rutter] chairman.
"You ran comments from Ernest Greene [Ira Levine]. His opening line
says everything you need to know about that man. Because Holliday did
nothing for me, I have nothing to say about him."
Ernest wrote:
"He and I were definitely not friends and he was definitely not helpful
to me in any way."
Bill: "Do you have to do something for something to say something
about somebody who had that kind of impact?
"Ira Levine was brought into the Stoller fold by Holliday, or, if
not, me. Bringing him out of obscurity to a man like Stoller...
"I worship [Ira Levine's wife] Nina Hartley because she is just
a bowl of sunshine. Next to Gloria Leonard, she's the best speaker this
business has ever had.
"You know why Ira and I are enemies. His name was on Mitchell's
petition in May 1998 to get rid of me [from the proto-AIM]. When I confronted
him about it, he said, I do what I have to do. I said, I think that was
Eichman's terminology too. I referred to him as Goebels. My nickname for
him is 'I'm on the train' because of his obediance.
"Hart befriended my writing partner Mark Weiss, who died in 1992.
Mark was a wonderful kind man. Somewhere along the line, Hart decided
he should be the only person in Mark's life.
"I stopped taking Hart seriously. He calls me once in a while. I
don't respond.
"The last time he was on the football field, he kicked me as hard
as he could in the groin. Everyone was appalled. I didn't even flinch.
They threw him off the field and he was never allowed to come back to
Coldwater [park].
"The last time I saw him was at the World Pornography Conference
in 1998. He was carrying around his extra stomach and acting officious."
Did you talk to him?
"Yes. There was no way of escaping him. I had no choice. He would
sit down and go off on tangents. I didn't know what he was talking about.
Half the time when he was talking he was just entertaining himself. I
can see why Holliday and he didn't particularly get along because they
were both anxious to talk all the time. They both wanted to fill the room
with what they knew but Hart knew a lot less.
"Hart called once after Holliday died. I did not return his call.
"Hart may be the bitterest person I've ever met. He's bitter because
he has no one to talk to about himself.
"It goes back to the line I gave you the other day. We are lonely
people in a crowd. By the nature of what we are, we are isolated from
the rest of the world and we're scared to get close to people, so we isolate
ourselves from our own family of X. It's not as much fun as people think.
"This is a place where people come to learn how to write. They can
write little wrong. It's vanity press. We love to see our names in print.
I'm lucky that I have a column to write what I want.
Taylor Wane Says She Is Not A Whore
Hat tip to
Mike South to pointing out this interview with Taylor on RockConfidential:
Jesse Capps: You mentioned that the only time you've ever gotten really
ticked off is when someone expects you to be their private little escort.
They think you're for sale. What runs through your mind when that happens?
Taylor Wane: You're trying so hard to be a professional, to be an actress.
Sure, you have sex on camera but you didn't consider yourself a prostitute.
You're an adult performer and you are an actress, you just went that
little bit further. When people offer you money or ask you for sex it's
really an insult when you're working so hard at being an entertainer
without selling yourself in any other manner. The public doesn't see
it as two different things. Somebody that's within the industry is working
hard to become an actress. Even if you're doing hardcore you still consider
yourself an actress. That's what you feel you are first and foremost.
I would really get angry when people asked me if I was an escort. How
dare you! That would open up the floodgates for them to tell me, "You're
just a f---ing whore," "You sell yourself for money!" Then you end up
defending something that you really shouldn't have to defend. Listen,
I make movies. You don't think Sharon Stone is a whore but guess what
- she's f---ed every director that she's ever worked for to help her
get all those starring roles. The only difference is I never got to
see her pussy hole with a cock going in and out of it!
For
$1150, you can be Taylor Wane's date to the AVN Awards. She's auctioning
herself off.
But she's not a whore.
Victor writes MikeSouth.com:
That two bit tart Taylor Wayne thinks she can compare herself to Sharon
Stone? Sharon Stone has a degree in creative writing and fine arts,
what do you have Taylor, a Penthouse layout that your then husband Laurien
got you? And you call Sharon Stone a whore?
Sharon began a modeling career and was signed to represent Clairol,
Diet Coke, and Revlon and she has appeared in such films as Total Recall,
Basic Instinct, Sliver, Casino, Sphere, and The Muse.
What exactly is your pedigree Ms Wane?
RIP Jim Holliday
Jack Point aka Rich Leather aka Randy Kaplan, former AVN journalist,
writes:
It certainly seems appropriate that after a long absence from porn
boards that I should also take the opportunity to pay tribute to my
friend Jim Holliday. He was difficult, outrageously opinionated, talented,
dedicated, maddening, endearing - a good friend, a worthy adversary,
a relentless pursuer of quality. Jim forgot very little - he never forgot
a slight or a compliment, rarely forgot a favor, forgot very little
about porn or popular culture but still forgot more than most anyone
else ever knew about either subject. I doubt Jim ever visited this site,
but I know he would not have been the slightest bit interested in it.
What interested him was if the pornstars were good PORNSTARS - good
on camera, good for the image of the industry, good to each other, good
as people and happy as pornstars. I know that no matter how good my
AVN colleagues were to me, and no matter how much I was welcomed into
the industry by people like Steve Orenstein and Christian Mann and Steve
Hirsch and Lenny Friedlander and Chris Roos and the late Bob Tremont,
among many others, that I didn't feel like I was truly a part of the
industry, and worthy to be respected as a critic, until I got the stamp
of approval from Jim Holliday. And the day I got it is still one of
the most memorable days of my life.
No matter how much we like to f--- the babes, sometimes there's nothing
quite like sitting around and shooting the s--- with the guys - and
that experience, for me, is DEFINED by the times I sat around and shot
the s--- with Jim Holliday and Gene Ross. I was at the XRCO Awards the
memorable night that Hooliday and Bill Margold - the "cosmic brothers"
- buried the hatchet and ended their longstanding feud. I was so moved
by their raw emotions that I approached Margold after the awards presentation
was over, and said to him, "Bill, if you and Jim can end this monumental
feud, you and I should certainly be able to bury the little hatchets
we've been carrying around. Can you accept my apologies and can we move
on as friends?" And when he told me to go f--- myself, I shrugged and
turned away - only to bump right into Jimmy White Moccasins, who grabbed
me, put his arm around my shoulder, and looked straight at Margold and
said, "Well, obviously it's time for me to leave."
I wouldn't try to tell you that their feud reignited over me - it certainly
did on and off for years, although they loved each other furiously -
but the fact that, on a night when his focus was on a public reconciliation
with Margold, Holliday did not hesitate to unfocus. for no better reason
than to make me feel better for being slighted by Margold, struck me
as one of the kindest and most graceful things anyone has ever done
for me. To be sure, in the same instant I realized that Bill Margold's
opinion of me mattered less to me than the opinions of all the maggots
in the world put together, but nonetheless, it was an extraordinary
act of grace on the part of Jim Holliday.
Jim was one of the few people in the business I kept in touch with
regularly after I left LA - although you can bet that I would have called
him all the time, just to hear his voicemail message. He changed it
every couple of weeks, and it was, famously, the funniest voicemail
messages ever heard on this planet of ours. Jim Holliday was one of
the oddest and stubbornest people I ever met - but he was also truly
unique. He was the self-styled "historian of porn" - although I think
the business had passed him by - but, as the son of a historian, I can
say that Holliday did indeed think like one. Even rarer, along with
a sense of the sweep of events, the currents of culture, and the big
picture, he had a great sense of the moment. He should be remembered
and treasured as the adult industry's historian, voice, and uncompromising
standard setter. He was also a kind and funny man who I was proud to
call my friend. Atque in perpetuum, frater Jim, ave atque vale. In his
honor, listen to some Del Shannon, and turn over a glass.
Bill Margold writes: "The "reconciliation evening" between Holliday
and I (February 1995) was very special, and particularly moving, especially
for me, as I had truly missed him from my life from the middle of 1991
until that moment at The Bel-Age when I was honored to induct him into
the XRCO Hall of Fame. Whomever Jack Pointe really is, he would be fortunate
to have such a person as Jim Holliday in his life for as long as I did."
Patrick Riley Here
Patrick Riley, porn critic for Prometheus Books, writes on RAME:
Reports of my demise are grossly exaggerated -- someone famous said
that. Oscar Wilde perhaps? Mark Twain? Whatever...
Anyway just letting you know that I'm still around, watching with dismay
the poor quality of dialog and the abysmal taste of the participants.
Not that it was really that much different before robo-moderation took
over; people gradually drifted away for varying reasons mostly IMO because
of the level to which the industry has sunk. I think I probably stuck
it out for longer than most with the "girl being screwed ogling the
camera" being the last straw that broke the camel's back.
I tolerated bukkake's, vomiting, facials, anals, gang bangs, ugly aged
women, uglier aged males, lack of feeling, poor camerawork, poor sound,
poor video, poor editing, non-existent or ridiculous sets, fake moaning,
lack of believability, guppy-mouthed Eurowhores, inflated boobs, tattoo
farms, bad teeth, etc for far longer than I should have. Especially
irritating were the drooling of the "fans" over some ugly old woman,
the industry's inflated idea of its own importance as epitomized by
Fishbein and Co, and the lies of the supposedly-independent reviewers.
Well, hallelujah! I have seen the light. In the last six months I've
seen maybe four pornos, all bad, which just confirmed the correctness
of my decision. You know why the DoJ doesn't and won't prosecute the
porn industry? Because it's irrelevant. Grandiose claims as to its economic
worth are just that: claims, unsupported by any reasonable evidence.
Apart from minor curiosity dalliances by the young males in their teens
and twenties, the average pornsumer is a raincoater, the dirty old man
of yore. Society has written him off except as a grunt worker and a
minor league consumer, certainly not someone whose corruption is in
any way important.
Something else occurred at about the time this NG went robo: I got
DSL and with it I changed my policy about email and the name I use.
When I first started on the internet back in 1996, I disclosed my name
and email address reasoning that I had nothing to hide and the golden
rule applied. How wrong. I used to get over 100 spam, malware, adware,
and viruses per day and that was after Earthlink's filtering; now I
get none. So lesson: You won't get my email address period and you'll
find my next posting is under a totally different name...or the same.
I randomly change them and I recommend everyone else does the same.
If I feel like it I might disclose who I am.
With DSL came the opportunity to explore and download much more and
WOW, even some of those Euro's are beautiful, a world away from their
counterparts in the porn movies which leads me to Riley Rule #2: The
quality of the female is inversely proportional to the extent to which
she'll go... what she'll permit or show.
At the top are the girls who won't even take off their clothes, at
best you might see the hint of a nipple or a camel toe. Then there's
the topless but no pussy... she might permit a back view while wearing
a thong. Then the tasteful full frontal usually in a glancing view and
then BANG, the brick wall with huge drop to the close-up crotch shots...
and we still haven't descended to the bowels of the porn industry. There's
the masturbators and the girl/girls and the boyfriend sex and finally
the vaginal sex with the stud.
I don't frequent the porn star groups so I fortunately miss out (I
presume) on the anals and bukkake's and facials. And, ya know what?
Contrary to the accusations over the years of how I'm behind the times,
most of these "above the raincoater porn line" girls don't have siliconized
boobs, most are tattoo free, piercings are rare, they don't have vapid
expressions, and in the behind-the-scenes clips they look like they're
having fun and being treated nicely. How refreshing!
So... I'm off to Hegre Archives or MET and I'll leave you to a NG where
the major contributor seems to be luden/realtoreel/mintball. Doesn't
auger well for the future.
WEHT To Buffy Davis
XXX writes: Back in the 1980s there was an adult film star by the name
of Buffy Davis. She starred in many movies for the short period of time
that she was active in the adult film industry. Would you have any information
about her present situation? I have to say that she was my favorite actress
at that time and still remains at the top of my list. Back in the early
1990s I corresponded with a woman by the name of Teri Daniels from a P.
O. Box in Coral Springs, Florida. She was sending me actual Buffy Davis
photographs.When I inquired through letters to her asking if she was actually
Buffy Davis I didn't receive a specific answer. Any information on your
part would be of great help.
The Keri
Sable Story
I spoke Saturday night, January 1, with 18-year old (born April 28) blonde
party girl Keri Sable.
She's the roommate of 19-year old Eva
Angelina.
Duke: "When you were a girl, what did you want to be when you grew
up?"
Keri: "I didn't even think about that. Whatever. I wanted to have
a normal job..."
Duke: "What were you expected to become?"
Keri: "Everyone I knew thought I'd get married and never work. I'm
lazy."
Duke: "Why do people think you're lazy?"
Keri: "Because I party a lot."
Duke: "What crowd did you hang out with in high school?"
Keri: "The stoners. Honestly, all I ever did or do is smoke pot.
I've never tried any other drugs."
Duke: "Were you a good student?"
Keri: "I was. I graduated with a 3.8 GPA [equivalent to an A- average]."
Duke: "College?"
Keri: "I'm not going to college right now but I plan on it. I don't
think I'm ready for it."
Duke: "What were your best classes in high school?"
Keri: "History and math. I took Algebra and Geometry."
Duke: "How old were you when you lost your virginity?"
Keri: "I was 14."
Duke: "How did that happen?"
Keri: "Alcohol. I had just met the guy that day. Then we were together
for almost two years."
Duke: "How was the first time?"
Keri: "Really painful. It was a mess. I'm surprised I had sex after
that.
"The guy I lost my virginity to was a civilian but he was pretty
big. It didn't start feeling good until the fourth time. Then I really
liked it, too much."
Duke: "How many guys had you been with by the time you graduated
from high school?"
Keri: "Four."
Duke: "What were your first exposures to pornography?"
Keri: "When I was 14. Before I had sex, I thought it was disgusting.
Then after having sex, I really liked it. The guy I was with had a lot
of porn. He was six years older than me.
"He was fascinated with Jenna Jameson. He had all of her movies.
I didn't even know what gonzo was when I got in the business."
Duke: "When did you first think about getting into porn?"
Keri: "I never said I wouldn't do it. When I was about to graduate
high school and I had three jobs and all my friends were going off to
college and I didn't want to do that. I didn't tell anybody until an hour
before I left. 'I'm going to Los Angeles and this is what I'm going to
do.'
"I'm from New York but I was living at San Diego at the time.
"I answered an ad in the newspaper and it led me to Monarch Models.
But it wasn't working out so I met September, Dawn, Stacy Valentine and
Shelby [of ExoticStarModels.com]. They hadn't even launched it yet. I've
been with them eversince."
Duke: "What do you love and hate about the porn industry?"
Keri: "That I get to have all these experiences that I would never
have in the normal world. It's fun and exciting. I love everything."
Duke: "What are your ambitions?"
Keri: "I definitely want to go to school and get my degree in something,
physical therapy or something. Be a civilian again."
Duke: "How do you spend your money?"
Keri: "I try not to spend it. I save it. But I have a disgusting
addiction on shoes. I spend a lot of money on my shoes. I usually spend
between $400-$500 a pair. That's how much shoes are these days. The cute
ones are really expensive. It's not my fault. You can't not buy a cute
pair of shoes just because they're expensive."
Duke: "Is it true that all sexy shoes hurt your feet?"
Keri: "Yes. But it is worth it."
Duke: "I had a girlfriend who would complain that I'd park a mile
from wherever we were going to make sure we had free parking."
Keri: "That's brutal on a girl.
"I spend a lot of time shopping but I'm not nuts about it. I always
have money. I don't spend money that I don't have. If I was broke, I wouldn't
buy a new outfit."
Duke: "Do you prefer to date guys who are inside or outside the
industry?"
Keri: "Outside. Definitely. I sound like a hypocrite, but I'd be
jealous if my boyfriend was screwing a bunch of girls."
Duke: "What's it like trying to have a relationship while you are
working in the industry?"
Keri: "Impossible. You can never explain to anybody. No one will
understand unless they are in it. Everyone has their own opinion about
the business. It hurts me. They think I'm like a slut. I guess I am kind
of. I don't care."
Duke: "Do people treat you differently when they find out you're
a porn star?"
Keri: "Yeah. A 100% differently. I was dating a guy a year before
I got in the industry. He was so sweet. He graduated from school. I had
moved to LA. He lived in LA. We started hooking up again. I told him.
He still wanted to hang out but he was like, that's disgusting. The way
he talked to me was so disrespectful. And he was treating me like I was
the queen of the universe."
Duke: "Has that ever made you think about leaving the industry?"
Keri: "No. People are always going to be unhappy with what you do.
I can't please everybody. I might as well do what I want to do."
Duke: "How did you family react?"
Keri: "I told my parents and I told my aunt on my dad's side. Then
my brother found out..."
Duke: "I hate to think how..."
Keri: "He's in his thirties. Married. Kids. Successful. Bright.
Then his wife went out of town one weekend. He was looking on the Internet...
Then I get a phone call at two o'clock in the morning. It was not good."
Duke: "I can just imagine him looking for porn on the Internet and
there's his little sister."
Keri: "It sucks. I feel horrible."
Duke: "Would it bother you if your husband was looking at porn?"
Keri: "Yeah."
Duke: "How many times a week do you work?"
Keri: "I only want to work every other day because I get torn up.
That's always been the case, even before I got in the industry. I tear
easily."
Duke: "What do you like to do in your spare time aside from shopping?"
Keri: "I party. It sounds like I'm such a ditz. I'm a teenager.
That's what I do. I smoke pot and I shop."
Duke: "Has your brother gotten over the shock?"
Keri: "He still can't believe it."
Duke: "So you had a happy childhood?"
Keri: "Yeah. Perfect. My life is like a sitcom-perfect life. My
parents are still together. On my mom's side of the family and my dad's
side of the family, no one's divorced. I'm pretty much an only child.
My brother's a half-brother. I've had tons of attention. My parents are
the best. I never wanted for anything."
Duke: "Maybe I will see you in Vegas."
Keri: "Yeah. We'll party. I'm so excited but I'm afraid that I won't
be able to get into anywhere. I'm only 18 and I don't have a fake ID.
I'm afraid I'm going to be stuck in my hotel room. There are so many designer
shoe shops in the hotels. I'm probably going to end up..."
Duke: "It would be funny if you couldn't get into the show."
Keri: "I spent so much money on outfits, I'd cry. I hope I'm not
washed up by the time I'm 21 and going to AVN."
Duke: "It's scary when you see girls who've had plastic surgery
gone wrong."
Keri: "I love plastic surgery. When I was 17, my parents bought
me a new nose and a new chin.
"I started doing scenes a week before my graduation. I was on a
set and [wondering] what time would I be done because my parents were
coming to pick me up from San Diego [for graduation]."
Duke: "If only your parents had known as they were driving you to
graduation."
Keri: "I was thinking, this is way not normal."
Duke: "It's weird when I meet girls on set who are 18 but haven't
graduated high school. And people say, 'You look 15. I don't care what
your ID says. I'm not shooting you.'"
Keri: "They like that. I work a lot because I look young. I used
to hate looking young but now I get so much work out of it."
Duke: "Were you a high school cheerleader?"
Keri: "No. I was uncoordinated because of all the pot. I don't think
I went to a football game the entire time I was in high school."
Standing Beside Shauna Banks
HI LUKE THIS IS XXX STAR SUMMER HAZE AND I RECENTLY READ THE POST ON
HOW SHAUNA BANKS WAS RIPPED OFF BY KRIS KAMINSKI.
I HAVE KNOWN SHAUNA FOR SOME TIME AND SHE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A SWEET AND
VERY PROFESSIONAL AND HARD WORKER IN THE INDUSTRY REGAURDLESS WHAT SHE
MIGHT BE DOING AT THE TIME. HER AND MYSELF HAVE HAD OUR HEAD BUTTS WITH
EACH OTHER AND OTHER ISSUES BUT WHEN PUSH HAS COME TO SHOVE WE ARE ALWAYS
THERE WITH SOMETHING NICE TO SAY ABOUT EACH OTHER.
I THINK ITS F---ED UP THAT SOMEONE WOULD HIRE HER AND SHOOT A WHOLE
DAYS WORTH OF WORK AND NOT MAKE GOOD ON WHAT THEY OFFERED HER FOR HER
COMPENSATION. IT IS THOUGH WRONG ON HER PART TO HAVE TRUSTED THIS GUY
EVEN THOUGH HER DEALINGS WITH HIM BEFOER WERE OK. YOU NEVER CAN TELL
WHAT SOMEONE IS CAPABLE OF IN THIS INDUSTRY AS I HAVE FOUND THAT OUT
THE HARD WAY. PEOPLE BASH ME ALL THE TIME AND DONT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE
TALKING ABOUT MOST OF THE TIME. IF SOMEONE WOULD TAKE THE TIME TO GET
TO KNOW SOMEONE THEY MIGHT FIND SOMETHING THEY LIKE ABOUT THAT PERSON
EVEN THOUGH THEY MIGHT NOT AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT PERSON DOES OR
SAYS. NOONE IS PERFECT. I DONT AGREE ALOT OF WHAT SOME PEROPLE SAY BUT
IT DOESNT MEAN THAT THERE ISNT SOMETHING ABOUT THAT PERSON THAT IS GOOD
AND DECENT.
I HOPE THAT MR KRAMINSKI GETS WHAT HE DESERVES AND COMES TO HIS SENSES
AND TAKES CARE OF HIS OBLIGATIONS BEFORE SOMEONE TAKES CARE OF HIM ALONG
THE WAY. KEEP RIPPING PEOPLE OFF AND YOU WILL PISS OFF THE WRONG PERSON
SOMEWHERE. SAD IT HAD TO HAPPEN TO A SWEET GIRL AND NOW IM SURE SHE
KNOWS BETTER AND WILL CHECK OUT ALL HER FUTURE BOOKINGS AND COMPANIES
HIRING HER. LOTS OF LUCK TO SHAUNA IN LA IN MARCH.
A chat with Savanna Samson
By Cindi Loftus courtesy of Xcitement magazine
The first thing you'll notice about Savanna Samson is that she is beautiful;
the next thing will be her warm smile. After you talk to her for a few
minutes you'll discover her intellect, her sense of humor and how open
and easy to talk to she is. However the BIGGEST thing you'll notice about
Savanna is that whether it's performing intense drama, doing hard core
sex scenes, or having a one on one conversation, she is giving you her
all, her complete attention, at 110%. She is the porn world's over-achiever
and it shows. Last year she won AVN's Best Actress of the Year award and
she is nominated for the same honor again this year. She has co-authored
a book, writes an on-line column, started her own production company,
is working on a talk show deal and oh, she happens to be a Vivid contract
girl making movies and appearances. I had the good fortune to talk to
Savanna in the beginning of December.
X: When I talked to you last night you said you were in New York City
at a party. Who's party was that?
S: It was for Victoria Gotti. The cameras were all over the place for
the show. (HBO's Growing up Gotti) It was her surprise birthday party.
X: So will you be on the program?
S: Yeah, for sure. Gina Lynn and I got the boys (Gotti's sons) all worked
up at the end. They couldn't really figure out who the heck we were and
then at the end when they figured it all out. They were so cute, because
they are so young. They all came around asking questions " How do I get
into this?" I said your parents will kill you.
X: I wanted to tell you I saw your movie "Bare Stage" and it was amazing.
S: Did you like it?
X: It is my favorite movie of the year. It was a very original concept
for (Director) David Stanley to come. You were amazing in it. I know you
take your acting very seriously.
S: I put a lot into my script. I really take it seriously. I do research
background on my character. Some people think that is silly for porn.
People do fast forward I know. But not when I'm acting hopefully. (laughs)
X: Well obviously all your work has paid off for you since you won the
AVN award last year for best actress. How did that feel?
S: I was so happy, but so surprised. I thought I would have to pay my
dues maybe? I didn't expect to win at all. When they called my name I
was like, what? It was a good movie though, "Looking In." It has a good
plot. My acting was pretty good.
X: Well now you are up awards for Bare Stage. What did you like about
that movie?
S: I love how the sex is shot in black and white, in that scene with Dale
Dabone and I. How cool looking.
X: He's a hot guy. And the scene with you and Lezlie (Zen) was pretty
good too.
S: You know what? They didn't even catch the half of it. That sex was
so amazing and we just kept going. We went crazy. When they weren't filming,
they missed so much good stuff because I had my orgasm off camera. So
it could have been even better in the movie.
X: So you guys were having sex even when the camera was shut off.
S: Right. Up on the stage. I always shoot my scenes like that. It's not
my problem if you are going to do hard-core version, soft-core version.
I don't want to stop because it ruins the whole mood. I want it to be
real and let the camera catch up to us. X: Tell the readers what you play.
S: I play a young country girl from the South. I had my accent. My boyfriend
goes away to war and he doesn't come back. So I go follow my dreams to
be a movie star in Hollywood, but as soon as I get off the bus in Hollywood
the whole play progresses on how Hollywood changes me.
X: You and Lezlie are amazing in Bare Stage. I don't mean just the sex.
I mean the acting. You guys were totally believable.
S: The whole Southern girl accent and everything?
X: Oh yeah. How did you do that? Do you have a Southern accent some where
in there?
S: No I don't have a southern accent and I didn't quite know how to do
it. I discussed it with my acting coach and we went to a lot of Tennessee
Williams. I really prepared for it.
X: You know who else was great in that movie was Voodoo. Learning all
that tough dialog and then talking in that funny accent, he really pulled
it off.
S: He was fabulous.
X: He didn't get a nomination though. I would have put him in the best
actor category. So how do you feel about all your nominations?
S: It's very exciting. And in three girl girl categories! One with Jenna
Jameson in the Massuese. One with Lezlie Zen in Bare Stage and one with
Tera Patrick in Tera, Tera, Tera.
X: I guess that means you're hot!
S: I guess so. (laughs) I was really pleased to get nominated as best
actress. I won that last year. So to get nominated again made me very
happy.
X: I know, you got nominated for best actress over all, and then best
actress for Bare Stage.
S: Right. I'm not holding my breath for that one because I think the Masseuse;
pretty much everyone is counting on the Masseuse at winning all the awards
this year.
X: You were great in the Massuese. How was it to work with Jenna?
S: The first time I was with Jenna is in a not yet released edition of
"Where the Boys Aren't." All the other Vivid girls played flight attendants
except Jenna who played the movie star and I am part of her entourage.
It's all on an airplane. So the first scene I ever did with her is in
an airplane bathroom.
X: Oh God, that must have been tough!
S: They cut a little of the back wall out so the camera could get in.
There was no room at all. We are all done up beautifully and we were very
tender, and all of a sudden I think, f--- this and I grab onto the handle
that helps you hang on with turbulence, put my foot on the sink, pulled
myself up and it got so hot and it is really a great scene! Then we did
the Masseuse. We have good chemistry. Jenna is a great lover.
X: So you think Jenna is going to win for best actress?
S: Well I don't think she should, (laughs) I think I should! Well maybe,
she did an amazing job in Masseuse.
X: My prediction is that Jenna will win some awards, and so will you.
S: It would be a real surprise. Especially since I will be back stage
since I am hosting. I just want to win one award so I can run out in between
my change of clothes and just grab a towel and go out and get it naked.
I don't think anyone has accepted an award naked.
X: Run out in the towel and then when you get the award, hold the award
up in the air and let the towel drop.
S: Yeah, let the towel go as I am running back stage. I am definitely
daydreaming about it. Can you call me back in ten minutes? I gotta catch
a train.
X: Sure! I'll call you back in a few. TEN MINUTES LATER
X: Hi. It's Cindi again.
S: Hi Honey. Uhmm. There are a lot of people on this train. Kids and parents.
X: What are you trying to say? (laughs) That this wouldn't be a good time
to talk about blow jobs?
S: Right. I won't be able to talk freely. Can I call you back in an hour
when I am off the train completely?
X: Yep. I'll talk to you in an hour.
ONE HOUR (OR SO) LATER
S: I'm a little late, sorry.
X: That's okay, so you made it home alive?
S: I wasn't going home. I'm actually in the city. My husband and I split
up but we had dinner tonight.
X: I heard you on Howard Stern talking about you and your husband splitting
up. I am sorry to hear that. Are you okay?
S: Uhm, yeah. I've been kinda done (with the marriage). It's an emotional
roller coaster as you can imagine. He's living with another girl for Chrissakes.
It's a big mess, ya know?
X: Sorry. Are you dating?
S: Yes. I've been laid more, and laid better. It's good to be horny again.
People love that feeling of something new and fresh and with one person
it doesn't stay like that forever. This line of work is perfect because
you always have that newness when you work with new guys and there is
all this brand new fresh chemistry. And you don't have to bother wining
and dining and you don't have to wait three dates before you can f---
'em, ya know? You just get right too it. None of that bulls---.
X: I'm glad that you are having great sex. What is the wildest sex you've
ever had?
S: I did five guys at once.
X: In what movie?
S: (pause) In Savanna Superstar.
X: (laughs) I was waiting for you to say in real life!
S: No I've never done that in real life and it's something that I said
I would never want to do in a movie. But then I think, well what haven't
I done? So I did the one thing I said I wasn't going to do. The reason
I did that movie was that in the book (How to Have a XXX Sex Life) is
listed under my stats a movie called Savanna Superstar, I threw a fit
because that was the Savannah with an "H" that used to be a Vivid girl
that committed suicide. That was her movie. So one of her movies was listed
under my movies. So I did a Savanna Superstar without the "H". It's a
really hot movie.
X: What is the hottest sex scene you have ever done?
S: Probably one with Manual Ferraro. The guy made me squirt okay, and
I do not squirt. It 's in the movie " Woman Under Glass." The problem
with that scene, it was so hot and intense and everything, it's an amazing
scene, and my biggest regret is that I didn't stick that huge thing in
my ass. Because when I am watching a movie I never want to cum until it
is an anal scene. And then when I am watching that hot scene and then
it ended and it never goes to anal. I was so horny and I didn't realize
I needed to take control of scene. I just thought if they wanted an anal
they would say. But now because of that scene I've learned I've got to
take control of my own scene.
X: Plus they may not have felt like they could TELL you to do something.
S: True. I like to be directed. I remember Stephen Hirsch said to me that
we want your scenes as hot as the scene with you and Rocco, and I said
well get me Rocco then.
X: Well you are Vivid's Bad Girl! What do you think was your best acting
ever in a movie?
S: Oh, "Devil & Miss Jones". It's Jenna playing the devil and me playing
Miss Jones. It's not released yet. The director, Paul Thomas says open
the door, slam it and scream. So I am standing outside trying to find
a way to scream. Finally after the third time of him yelling action, I
just opened the door and let out this scream and then I was so embarrassed
I started crying. I kept that emotion up through the movie. That was my
best acting.
X: So that's the movie that will be nominated for next year!
S: I hope so.
X: What new stuff are you up to?
S: I am shooting my own production. I will be the little Love Fairy. I'll
be blowing dust on people and making them fall in love and things like
that. It's going to be shot on a green screen. It's never been done before.
It's going to be amazing. I'm writing the scripts too. I'm so excited
to start production on it. I'm also in negotiation for my own talk show.
X: You would be good at a talk show.
S: It's amazing. If I am sitting next to someone on a plane and they ask
me what I do. I say I am an actress and they say really, what have I seen
you in, and I say well, the naughty kind. It's amazing how people open
up to me, women, men, as soon as they know what I do. I guess I don't
look typically like how someone would expect a porn star to look, especially
how we are in everyday life. They'll talk about whatever bothers them.
It's amazing how I have that ability to make people do just that. They
feel at home. They'll tell me they rented a movie last night at the hotel,
or complain about their husband or their wife. It's a release for people
to be next to someone who is so free sexually.
X: It's because you are so friendly and down to earth and non-judgmental.
S: Non-judgmental that is a huge part. Thank you!
X: You are like the Oprah of porn stars! You have that girl next-door,
easy to talk to quality. What channel will it be on? Playboy TV?
S: No. It's going to be completely mainstream. It's too early to even
talk too much about it. Oh I have a new website called the UniversityOfSavanna.com.
It's like a whole university website where you pay tuition instead of
membership and check out my coeds. And my sorority is called " I Eat A
Pi." It's something really completely different and new. But the problem
is that there is a Savannah with an "H" University. I'm kinda hoping that
there will be controversy, because that would be positive for me!
X: That is because you're such a positive person and you bring positive
things to you. I can't wait to talk to you again!
Fans can see more of Savanna at UniversityOfSavanna.com, SavannaSamson.com
and Vivid.com
A Rebuttal From Teri Weigel's Hubby
Murrill Maglio, the husband
of Teri Weigel, writes AINews.com:
Page From Jenna's Bulls--- Book. (#467) It only takes one lie to make
the whole book a Lie.
Since no one has seen fit to rebut Jenna Jameson's recent autobiography,
I thought I'd take on the task myself. If you've read Jenna's book (and
God help you if you have), you might know me as the "Suitcase Pimp."
Everyone else in the adult industry knows me as Murrill Maglio, Teri
Weigel's husband and manager.
Though I'm unsure exactly what a "suitcase pimp" is, I'm impressed
that Jenna has progressed past her usual four letter-word vocabulary.
There are some who may think I'm being too harsh on her. However, she
instigated this fight by inaccurately and scurrilously attacking the
woman I love. Why, I have no idea. Jealously, perhaps.
After all, Teri was an actress, singer and international model long
before she became a Playboy Playmate. She chose to become an adult entertainer,
and quickly took her game to the next level by becoming one of the most
successful porn stars the industry has ever seen.
Blackballed by many in the industry for pioneering free agency within
the porn ranks, Teri has endured much slander while becoming a genuine
icon in a taboo industry, one that thrives on libelous fabrication.
So Jenna's inaccurate account of an encounter she had with Teri at a
particular club comes as no surprise. Still, it hurts.
As a porn star, Teri has learned firsthand how difficult it is to earn
the respect of mainstream society. Within porn's inner circle, however,
she is loved and respected.. Her superstar status was not given to her
- she earned it by performing across the country for 40 weeks a year,
and appearing in more than 50 well received x-rated movies. Outside
of porn, she has also guest starred in numerous domestic and international
motion pictures and television shows, which contributed to her status
as one of the most requested female entertainers in the adult industry.
Well known to others on the dance circuit as friendly and unassuming,
Teri was truly insulted by the ridiculous comments Jenna made about
her in her book. However, Teri chose to take the high ground rather
than match wits with an unarmed person. Not me, though. Attack my wife,
and you get all that's coming to you.
Here's the true story: Teri was the feature at said club the previous
week and was asked to stay on an extra day and use her large fan base
in the Columbus area to bring in a crowd for Jenna, who was then a new
and upcoming starlet. But instead of being grateful for a packed house,
Jenna was outraged that she had to follow Teri on stage and proceeded
to shatter a glass on the center stage floor, endangering all of the
other dancers. This, it seems, was the beginning of the prima donna
attitude that has come to characterize Jenna Jameson throughout her
career.
While Jenna enjoys a certain degree of popularity among porn fans, Teri
is a multi-dimensional icon. She is not just a stripper, she is a true
entertainer whose life encompasses much more than just sex. She has
been happily married for 18 years and maintains a loving household in
addition to a very demanding career. She runs a multi-million dollar
corporation and has had her name trademarked for many years. Inexplicably,
Jenna thinks she is the first woman and only woman in the industry to
do that. In fact, she's far from being the first at anything. She's
a star only because of the efforts of an easily impressed press and
the backing of Vivid and Wicked.
Unlike many women in porn, Teri has not allowed the industry to use
her. Rather, she has learned to use it. She has become an icon by branding
her name and personality upon those who experience her performances.
Simply put, Teri's dedication to her legion of fans is what has made
her a star as well as a world-class entertainer.
Jenna's personal attack on Teri is just one of many things that left
me reeling after reading Jenna's book. As a writer, Jenna gives a great
blowjob - Hemingway, she ain't. Her book is, in my opinion, neither
entertaining nor informative. It's disorienting, difficult to follow
and is comprised primarily of ludicrous name-dropping.
Wake up, Jenna! Your fans want to watch you f---, not read about it.
Unfortunately, if Jenna is to be believed, she has a multi-book contract,
which means many more trees are going to die so her dwindling fan base
can read about her boring, inane exploits. In a business where women succeed by bonding through their trials and
tribulations, Jenna Jameson has no problem gleefully betraying those
within that sisterhood. That, I think, is her greatest sin. And it will
no doubt come back to haunt her.
Good luck, Jenna. You're going to need it.
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