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CrackWhoreConfessions.com
Mike Albo writes on
AdultStarsNews.com:
You know how we love our tales of degradation. We especially love
them when they involve white trash chicks and drugs. Some people are
just not cut out for the drug lifestyle, and nowhere is this more
apparent than on one of our new favorite Web sites, Crack Whore Confessions.
This is some genius-level material. Girls who will do anything for
a $20 rock. Sure, they may not be the prettiest debs at the ball,
they may be missing teeth, self-respect and homes, but they just keep
coming back for more. It kind of speaks to the endurance of the human
spirit...or not.
There seems to be a lot of specious
arguing again around whether Darren James transmitted the HIV virus
to Lara after contracting it in Brazil or Lara gave it to Darren
when they purportedly worked together the previous February in Canada.
I
think that a lot of people inside of porn would love to hear that
it came from Lara, for the sheer fact that she is the one making quotes
in the media that she “though porn people were the cleanest people
in the world.” There would be a cruel, but vindicating irony associated
with that kind of knowledge and I can understand why some people are
desperate to believe that. It is hard to swallow stories from the
press in which Lara talks about how she was forced to be here, when
she begged to come down, after Daniel told her that she wasn’t cut
out for it, and refused to go home, when Thomas told her that she
wasn’t cut out for it. It is hard to hear her accuse the company of
“forcing” her to do the double anal that might have been he transmission
point of her contracting HIV when she was begging for any job that
she could get and often sleeping with men who hung around set after
the scene, which is where the disgusting picture on ADULT FYI originated
from. There again, it is hard to hear her make statements about the
cleanliness of porn people when her personal hygiene was nothing short
of disgusting. Not to mention that she makes no reference in these
media interviews to the plethora of escorting jobs she took while
here that outnumbered onscreen affairs nearly three to one from all
accounts.
Like
I said, I can understand how some in porn would relish the grim twist
of fate that led them to find Lara infecting Darren with the disease
instead of the other way around.
The rest of the people that are fiddling with the idea of Lara
giving it to Darren I chalk up to conspiracy theorists and other malcontents
who simply cannot relinquish their desire to Rage Against the Machine
on every given issue that they run across.
Since
I will inevitably get a hundred phone calls over what I think and
why, here is my opinion, based on the knowledge that we currently
have at our disposal.
I
believe that Darren contracted the HIV virus from having unprotected
anal sex with Bianca Biaggi in Brazil, who was HIV positive. Efforts
are being made to confirm this theory by asking Miss Biaggi to send
a sample of her blood to AIM who will then have the lab check it.
The reason that Darren contracted the virus, in my opinion, given
that it is not as easy to pass from females to males, is that he did
not use enough lubrication and there was invisible microscopic skin
abrasions that could serve as the point of contact for the virus.
Furthermore, I believe that his spider bite, which may or may not
have been MRSA Staph infection, significantly reduced his immune system,
leaving him more vulnerable to infection.
I
also believe the body of experts, doctors, and lab technicians, who
believe that Darren was and is patient zero in this instance. I do
not believe that I know more than they do in this regard, and am willing
to accept their assessment given their lengthy medical training versus
some porn gossip website speculation.
Furthermore,
I believe that the PCR RNA tests show conclusively the viral spiking
pattern that is associated with infection, and that the evidence presented
to me is correct and accurate, which shows Darren’s viral load decreasing
while Lara’s climbed, something that is common in the initial stages
of HIV infection according to reliable medical sources.
Last
but not least, I believe that the scenario presented by medical experts,
which strongly suggests Darren being patient zero, is more likely
to have produced the kind of results that we saw, three other infections
to date. It is highly unlikely that Darren could have contracted the
virus and then spread the disease within a few hours to another girl.
Given that all of the people that tested positive worked with Darren
and none of them worked with Lara, and given that no people that worked
with Lara, or paid her $500 escorting fee, tested positive for HIV,
it stands to reason that Darren was the source and that he contracted
it from Biaggi in Brazil.
I
hate to drag a tired cliché out but this simply is a case of Occums
Razor to me. Given the facts presented, the most likely explanation
is often the only real explanation. Sure there is the possibility
in some alternate universe somewhere that it went the other way, or
even that all of the people infected had been infected by various
means and by some extraordinary coincidence they had all worked together
in a time frame that allowed them to be sewed together by their contraction
status, but it is stretching it, and highly improbable, and doesn’t
account for some of what we see.
Luckily
for us although we may never have absolute certainty on this issue
other than that which logic and deductive reasoning can provide, we
can know for sure that the last scenario is impossible in a few months.
Right now the lab technicians are matching the virus from Darren and
Lara and Jessica and Miss Arroyo by a process known as genotyping.
From this process, which is expensive and takes some time, they will
be able to determine whether or not it is the same virus, linking
all of them together. They already know that the kind of virus that
Darren has is a form of HIV 1, whose subset is unusually rare in America,
including North America (Canada) which again seems to point towards
Brazil once more.
In
the meantime, while we wait and find new controversies to be embroiled
in and issues to get all up in arms about, like the string of obscenity
trials soon to be announced, I think we would all do well to just
take it easy for while.
Stop
assuming that everything you read on one of these sites is the honest
to God truth. Start thinking with your head. Everything that any other
site posts generates a battery of concerned calls asking me my position
on it, no matter how ludicrous or absurd the claim, or how many times
it has been refuted, or whose mendacious mouth it greasily flops out
of.
Read
this carefully.
Porn
gossip and news sites operate off of controversy, which generates
more hits, even if they have to push lies or fear or panic or acrimony.
Sure sometimes there is the real Woodward and Bernstein moment when
the truth is out here, but often stories are based on speculation
and lies and false testimony and ballyhoo. It is a house of mirrors
out here on the PGN sites and you have to start looking past all of
this to find out the truth.
AdultCon 6 'Kinda Sad'
Adult film stars meet their public for a price at convention
By Dana Bartholomew, Staff Writer (via Hardcoregossip.com)
LOS ANGELES She was the minister's daughter who'd won a commendation
from the U.S. Air Force for saving thousands of dollars at military
medical clinics nationwide. But on Sunday, she was an adult-film star
hawking her wares at a film-and-fan convention.
"I am the girl next door, literally, am literally down the street,'
said Kayla Cam, 33, of Canoga Park, a veteran of six films. "I watched
my first-ever porno film three days ago - I don't see what the big
thrill is.
"It just sounded fun,' she said of her new life in raunch. "Last
time I checked, my mom and dad live on the other side of the country
and they don't pay my bills."
Cam was one of several dozen adult film stars at the AdultCon6 consumer
convention at the Warner Center Marriott, where an estimated 1,500
fans paid $30 each to ogle several dozen scantily clad porn stars,
strippers and phone-sex workers. While the performers sold their videos
- which ran uncensored in the background - a parade of mostly young
men caught every curve with video cams, digital cameras and photographic
cell phones.
Because of the recent industry HIV outbreak that caused a monthlong
shutdown of the adult-entertainment industry, some booths sat empty
the stars unable to afford the registration fee.
"It has a very sleazy feel, an odd feel this year,' said Theresa
MacWillie, a gray-haired woman from Huntington Beach who sold erotic
foxtails and jewelry. "It's too bad that some of the men who come
here have such Elmer Fudd-meets-Charles Manson manners."
For most men and women, however, it was just fun and commerce. Keiko,
a petite redhead from Florida, could have been a store clerk, a nurse
or a secretary. Instead, she and her fiance flew to Los Angeles to
become adult- film stars.
"It was kind of an accident,' said Keiko, 20, of Sherman Oaks. "I
wanted to be famous. The easiest way to get it is to walk into a modeling
office and say, I want to do porn.'
The Captain Of My Heart
As I drove away from my home at 11:30AM April 22nd, I had no idea that
things would happen in the next two hours that would forever change
the course of my work life.
I was in high spirits, looking forward to the media circus of Sharon
Mitchell's press conference about porn's two HIV cases.
I wore my speckled grey suit, which I do not believe I've put on in
more than six years.
I had my black Museum of Tolerance tote bag filled with two tape recorders
and a good book by Jeffrey Meyers on Somerset Maughm.
I've been on the job at Adultbeat for five months and I believe the
site is finally clicking. It's going to be number one. I have a good
boss. I have a good salary. I have good writers. I have good benefits.
I have a good chance at clawing my way out of debt and poverty.
Despite my upbeat mood, I had a nagging sadness in my soul. A promising
relationship had just petered out that morning. She'd called to say
that she would never.... and she did not want to be my "hors d'eouvre."
So I decided to cancel plans with her for the evening and instead attend
a singles event largely populated by UCLA graduate students.
I parked on Ventura Blvd to save on the $10 parking fee for the Universal
Hilton. I walked uphill and awkwardly jogged up streets not meant for
foot traffic. Near 1PM, I walked up to the hotel. I saw Sharon Mitchell,
Nina Hartley and Ira Levine standing outside, dressed to the nines.
I should've known I was going to be outclassed.
I avoided them and looked for a friendly face. I found it in Jim South,
the tall angular humorous talent agent, Bill Margold, and finally my
good buddy Rob Spallone, who's bouncing off the walls as usual. He was
filled with passion for how porn should protect itself from HIV.
I saw about 40 reporters in the room. As I chat with Rob, he boomed
out his views in a loud voice and the media circled him and extended
their microphones.
I got into a chat with a little cutie named Gina from the LA Times.
An Asian girl from the Times was also there, Kaitlyn Liu, along with
media from NPR, Germany's Der Spiegel magazine, all the major LA TV
stations...
I arrived home at close to 4PM. There were eight messages on my phone
machine and about 20 email. I heard one message about what happened
with that AVN article and was I still employed at Adultbeat.
Checking my computer, I see an email from my boss Lensman. In a straight
forward manner, he demands that I treat "off the record" requests
as binding. Fair enough.
I surf over to the AVN.com
site and see that I've been hung out to dry. My own boss has apparently
told AVN that he believes that I am guilty of a felony. AVN president
Paul Fishbein and porn's top lawyer Paul Cambria proclaim that I am
guilty of a felony.
The controversy is over a conversation that AVN reporter "Scott
Ross" had with a dozen or so people in Rob Spallone's office earlier
in the week via speakerphone. I recorded it and transcribed it on my
site. Scott essentially said that AVN was a trade magazine and could
not be expected to do investigative journalism. That AVN backed AIM.
That Scott had sometimes felt issues of AVN lacked editorial integrity
and he would not allow his name on them. Scott said there was much about
how AVN operated that he thought was wrong. That his work was often
edited and twisted [by Tim Connelly].
Scott Ross has written this AVN.com article today tearing me to shreds
under the moniker Trent Brown. I think it is a sleazy tactic to write
a hit piece with yourself at the center but not identify yourself as
the author of the self serving piece.
Oh well, I
can't expect more from AVN. Ten days previously, Scott Ross and
company caused newspapers around the world to proclaim there were two
HIV positive girls in the industry (whereas to that point only one had
publicly tested positive) and hung out to dry one HIV negative girl
as HIV positive. Unbelievably, it took AVN about 20 hours to correct
their grievous error.
I check Adultbeat and realize that my story in question has been pulled
by my boss and there's no back up copy. I think about the hours of work
I put into the piece. I look at AVN's article again where my boss agrees
I'm a felon. I think about my obligations to the writers I've brought
over to Adultbeat. I need to keep them in paying gigs. But I can't abide
by what has happened. I can't abide my articles being pulled without
any consultation with me.
I fire off a polite letter of resignation, effective immediately.
A few hours later, when I calm down and see that I still have FTP access
to Adultbeat, I put together a nasty
farewell note. To his credit, my former boss does not remove it.
Nor does he trash me on his GFY board or elsewhere. It looks like we
will continue to have a cordial relationship. I just can't work for
him.
I think I'll concentrate on my books.
My friends call to express their concern. My closest friends say that
I was completely out of line in what I did and I should crawl back to
my old boss, apologize, and ask for my job back. I say no way.
With a new day dawning, I feel my career in porn drifting away. Too
long ago, too long apart, I can't wait another day for the captain of
my heart. I must return to my books.
As the day came up, I made a start. I stopped waiting another day for
him, the captain of my heart.
Anabolic Hawks
Rough Sex Series Overseas
They are not yet selling Kahn Tusion's Rough Sex DVDs in the USA.
Rubber Bandwagon
Amy
Sohn writes:
Last month, soon after the Adult Industry Medical Health Care Foundation
(AIM) discovered that porn stars Darren James and Lara Roxx had tested
positive for HIV, director Adam Glasser, better known as Seymore Butts,
announced that he would be mandating the use of condoms in all his
movies. This came as a surprise to some who had come to associate
his oeuvre with hard-core action and unprotected male-female anal
sex. But Glasser, 40, stands by his decision and says the current
outbreak, in which four performers have been found to be HIV-positive
(a fifth case appears to be unrelated), has been a wakeup call to
the industry that condoms—not testing—are the only way to stop the
spread of the virus.
“I felt it was something I had to do,” Glasser, star of the Showtime
series Family Business, told me in a phone interview from his home
in Los Angeles. “I felt it was my responsibility to minimize the risk
to my performers as much as possible and that using condoms for vaginal-
and anal-penetration scenes would minimize that risk tremendously.”
He is quick to add, though, that he won’t be using condoms for oral
sex, and will continue to show facials—no, not the exfoliating kind—since
swallowing is less risky than unprotected sex.
Although several companies are already condom-only, Glasser is the
first “gonzo” producer to join them. Gonzo porn is known for being
unscripted, wall-to-wall sex—essentially, what a scripted video would
look like if you fast-forwarded through the setups. One of the first
gonzo directors was Glasser’s mentor, John “Buttman” Stagliano, who,
in his 1989 Adventures of Buttman, used a vérité style, participating
in scenes himself and doing away with plot altogether. (In 1997, Stagliano
announced that he had contracted HIV from a transsexual hooker in
Rio.)
The National Enquirer Runs Story On Porn Chicks, HIV
It should be in the latest issue. Many of the girls on the quarantine
list are escorting.
Mafia Takes Renewed Interest In Porn Industry
Learning how disorganized the porn industry is by its fractious reaction
to the HIV crisis, various New York Mafia figures are looking to get
into porn and to run things in an organized fashion. I'll be able to
name names within six weeks.
A Epoch Blast From The Past
Here's a story I was not allowed to run about 15 months ago. But now
I can.
Chris Mallick, CEO of Paycom/Epoch, is paying all the small people
and he's holding up millions of dollars owed the large players until
July [2003]. The large players won't go BS about this on the boards.
Mallick wants to quiet up the pipsqueaks who complain on GFY.
Mallick is doing these aggressive cross-sells. The FTC won't come down
on him, they will come down on the websites that use his technologies.
The FTC will ask webmasters: Are you over 21? Do you have lawyers? Are
you a businessman? Do you have a contract with your CC processor?
Epoch is doing these aggressive cross-sells with various boxes X'ed
off and they are charging several time the normal amount for one signup.
This has led to a major chargeback problem. As long as you increase
transactions, you are still cool.
Mallick brought in all the big players like CEN with these cross-sells.
The larger players brought in smaller webmasters because they could
cross-sell each other. Epoch sucked in a lot of action, got to the top
of their plateau, ramped up until they turned the corner where it started
to fall off, then you got chargeback city.
In the past, Epoch blamed all their problems on Dan Steinberg. Epoch
claimed they had fixed everything.
Epoch has slowed down the payments to the biggest players a week at
a time until they were running almost a month behind. Now they're going
to hold them until July and sign a note at 5%.
I believe the Bottos/Maxcash process with Jettis, in which they might
have an ownership interest.
Mallick claims he's been fighting with MasterCard over fines. That's
baloney. MC just takes the money. They don't ask. If you don't pay their
fines, you don't process any more.
Mallick isn't offering the major players a deal. He's telling them
the deal. He's funding the rest of his business off the major players.
Last year, MikeAI on Oprano.com cooked Fantasyman on his cross-selling.
FM stopped it. MikeAI brought it to the attention of IBill and Epoch
of cross-billing and they started doing it. Their versions of it will
bring the FTC down. Any webmaster using Epoch is likely to get nailed
by the FTC.
Epoch will say: We give webmasters tools. We're just a billing agent.
If webmasters use these tools in a wrong way, that's their business.
Say Epoch is billing $30 million a month. You can't go close a merchant
account and show up somewhere else with that kind of money. I think
Epoch is getting hit with fines in the millions of dollars and they're
using the webmasters reserve money to pay those fines. I think Epoch
has run out of reserve money.
SEGuru writes on GFY 1/29/03: "I'm curious to see if there are
other programs out there having any issues with Paycom? Payment issues
or anything of this sort? I have heard grumblings, and am just curious
as to what others may be seeing.
"That other thread is what I was looking for. Strange that clients
are being treated differently. I "hear" that some are being penalized,
and moneys held, and some delayed. IBill getting fined. Strange days
indeed.
"As long as this industry exists, someone will find a way of making
sure there is a friendly billing platform that our customers are comforable
using. It does not mean that if one gets bitten once, that he doesn't
think twice about doing what he did that got him bit in the first place.
Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it. Anyone
remember 2 years ago? I'm speaking in a generic way though, as this
is something that can happen to any processor. However, its their responsibility
to monitor ALL OF THEIR ACCOUNTS and if there are accounts that endanger
the master account...you do something about the smaller sub account.
In Epochs case, I think it is wrong to penalize account holders for
something that was beyond that account holders control. It is the processors
responsibility to run their business, not the webmasters."
Moffit Timlake writes: "Hey SEGuru, Why don't you just contact
BillingGuru? Maybe you can swap guruisms."
BluMedia writes on GFY: I did not get my wire from Paycom for this
week so I emailed them and here is the response. Wonder why I was never
notified of this before. I think they should of notified everyone about
this but we were kept in the dark or at least I was. Anyone else have
this problem? I got my weekly wire from CCBill like usual, never late
not even a day.
"Dear Sir: Thank you for your email. The Wires will be going out early
next week. We apologize for the delay please know that it is nothing
major but it has to do with Mastercard fines that had to be made. Wehope
to pay all of our clients at least two Wires for next week. We want
to get back to our regular Friday payment schedule." "Paycom.net"
This is bullsh-t why don't these companies let us know about these
things? If they have to pay mastercard fines shouldn't they still pay
their clients? I am sure their employees got paid. I am sick of this.
They assured me that they had a excellent relationship with Visa and
MasterCard. Well if you had an excellent relationship couldn't you work
something out with them instead of screwing over the webmasters? Sorry
I am just really pissed. The fact that nobody was notified is very unprofessional.
I would expect more from a top notch processing company like they say
they are. I don't use them anymore but still have those rebills. I must
say that CCBill will be the last one standing. I have not had one problem
with them. They always pay no matter what. If they had fines, the webmasters
would still be paid. I have never heard anyone have a problem with them.
If you are with Paycom you won't get paid for this week. They said
they had to pay huge mastercard fines and decided not to pay the webmasters
for this week. They said next week everything wil be back to normal.
They decided not to let anyone know about this.
Fatpad writes: The processor with 30 min trials and a ton of cross-selling
is being fined by M/C? No way!
Gobigtime writes: If you're going to instantly upsell a what the surfer
thinks (hopes) is going to cost them $2.99 to a $120+ charge in 4 days...
expect the occassional payment delay from the processor that allows
you to do this Free 30 min trials are pretty good for the surfer though..
if they know how to cancel (and if paycom gives them like 60mins to
cancel before charging).
DrGuile writes: That email is real. that story is correct. fine being
issued by MC for oct 01 to Mar02 have a nice panicky day.
Chris Mallick, CEO of Epoch, writes on GFY: Yes. It is real. It is
also wrong. You got a wire today. It was sent anyway. Sorry it took
so long to get to this but I needed to check some facts and respond
accordingly. First of all... Calm down! Payments have been made and
are being made. EPOCH is just fine, thanks for the concern from all
the haters. A MasterCard fine was levied about 10 months ago. EPOCH
paid the fine, from our pockets and fought the fine for the last 10
months. We lost. But the cash was paid out back then so it could not
have affected cash flow today. Climmie’ s email is just wrong. She made
a mistake. Sorry for the heartburn. Some clients are having the fine
passed through to them but that is between them and us and not for board
chatter from us. Those clients will be getting a letter. We will not
discuss specifics beyond this in public forums.
That being said: EPOCH is compliant with all card association’s rules
and chargeback guidelines. Some wire clients did not get a wire today
as we wired earlier in the week. We are wiring everyone again on Tuesday
to make sure all of our clients get paid on the same day of the week
from now on, which will be Tuesdays. With bank holidays and all Tuesday’s
seem to work best. More on that later, by email to our clients directly.
Again, noit for board discussions. Checks and UPS have been mailed /
sent as usual and everything is normal there too. There are no problems.
If any of you have not gotten your mail from last Friday’s mail please
email us, but this is the first any of us have heard of this issue.
If you were one of those that was misinformed, we are sorry we did not
do a better job of communicating. We will try harder.
MrBling writes: Looks like the CROSS SELLING method is working for
paycom you don't cross sell like that with an norm merchan account,
if you do I hope you have throwaway international merchant accounts.
Chris Mallick writes DrGuile: You are wrong.
DrGuile replies: How am I wrong? Are the fines not being applied to
customers who were there back then? Or am I wrong about payments from
this week being late? because I can assure you, Im right on both counts...
Netbabe writes: Oh ... now these new business models where you f-ck
the consumers out of $105 bucks on one join form is okay because you
have terms & conditions.??? NO!!!!! CHARGEBACK is a prompt choice, they
will easily charge back. I feel sorry for those processors ... Here
you go getting yourself f-cked one CC company by one ... I'd like to
know how many times can you be fined before your entire 3rd processor
gets shut down ... there has got to be a limit ... do tell.
Stephanie Swift Wants To Be The New Jill Kelly
Stephanie Swift says she's broke. She wants someone to bankroll her
own video company to the tune of $300,000. She says it's time for her
boyfriend to move back in with his parents.
I understand Stephanie wants to move into a house with a bunch of porn
girls and install web cams and broadcast over the Internet. She wants
to be like Jill Kelly Productions.
She says she shot a movie in Brazil a year ago and the owner is holding
the master tape until she can pay him.
A video porner tells Duke: "I wish the Internet would be censored.
It's extreme. The kids who are using the Internet for education are
just being bombarded with the porn. I don't know that that is a benefit
for everybody."
The Glamorous
Life Of A Mafia Porn Soldier
I worked my ass off yesterday. This is not work in the true meaning
of the word. I did Family Business all day and into the night. I worked
the phones, I had meets. I did Porno sh-t. A women asked me why I
did what I did. I had no real answer. She is "Normal" and she only
knew a facade of my life, that I let her see. Most people can only
see me in the way I choose. I hate what I do. I hate the life. I hate
the people. Yet I drawn into it like a moth to flame. I miss the street.
I miss the intrigue. I am like a Junkie. I do not even care about
the money. It just is a part of my existence. It gives me freedom,
choices. To the Brave, come the spoils. I met with my LA Capo and
we do things that in a second can turn bad. I know this and I accept
the consequences of my actions. I am willing to always end a conflict.
That is my way. I found out today a GUY I know was out on Bail. It
made me happy. I spoke with my NYC Capo and we just spoke about our
kids. I live a life. No, I live five lives.
Dave Cummings On HIV Crisis
He
posts on AdultDVDTalk.com:
1. With the exception of the larger companies which appear able to
participate more fully and easily in distribution to the cable markets
and other sources of revenue, not a lot of adult film production companies
seem to presently be making the massive amounts of money that some
media folks and others (including some of us talent members?) seem
to think is happening. Some companies are doing fine, some are doing
OK, and some seem to be financially struggling? Besides a possibly-growing
glut of amateur footage and DVD releases from Internet-only content
shoots, as well as foreign and Internet streaming video availability
beginning to impact the present and future market, the many wannabe
"producers" of the present and past few years who have purchased 3-chip
camcorders and set out to get themselves laid under the guise of film-making
have contributed to a glut of "companies", footage, and productions
which has driven down the sales numbers and profits for some companies.
Heaping additional costs upon the aforementioned companies for talent
health care, talent residuals, payment of testing fees, government
mandates, etc,--- be it the result of City of Los Angeles Health Department/State/OSHA/other
(e.g., a "talent union")---might be the straw that breaks the back
of some existing companies, thus driving down their ability to stay
in existence and contract/employ talent and crews at the rates and
fees that they presently pay. Might not talent fees have to be cut
and/or production budgets tightened up even more for some companies
to comply with any new governmental requirements, or talent "unionizing"?
2. Because anal creampies seem so HIV risky, perhaps they should
no longer be made or distributed in America (or elsewhere)? Enforcement
would probably require either some type of leak-proof Industry-wide
self-regulation with distributors/stores refusing to accept such releases
(or, if the Industry can't police it adequately, a law or medical
regulation making anal creampies illegal to produce/sell might result?).
An unknown here is the possible need for some type of adequate control
in order to prevent "leakage" from Internet and/or foreign sources
trying to continue catering to those viewers wanting to see anal creampies
in spite of the health dangers to talent.
3. Mandatory condoms/Dental dams? Yes, some companies have survived
and prospered in spite of voluntarily using condoms--from a health
viewpoint it's been a plus for their talent members, but financially
one might wonder if such companies could have had even better sales
and profits if they didn't have a condom-only production policy? Some
comments I've been reading speculate that condoms diminish the fantasy
of viewers, and some renters/buyers might boycott America-California
productions in favor of European and other foreign releases if condoms
were made mandatory? I'd be concerned that government imposition of
a tariff on imported foreign porn would only result in very few tariffs
actually being paid, but lots of pirating and distribution of European
product taking place! I also understand that some Industry people
are concerned that mandatory condoms might drive some productions
"underground" or out of California (or even the United States?), thus
possibly raising medical risks and costing thousands of jobs, the
loss of tax revenues, and other adverse economic impacts! If the only
way to prevent a government condom mandate requires some sort of negotiation
and give and take, perhaps the industry should not only stop doing
anal creampies, but also consider agreeing to condoms for anal penetration---but
NOT for oral/vaginal?
4. The most recent attempt at creation of a talent guild/union failed
to adequately succeed; it was in the pre-Viagra era. For reasons mentioned
in the first paragraph herein, and given present circumstances, I
sense that "unionizing" might possibly be self-defeating to some extent.
Further, the present availability of a variety of erectile dysfunction
medications to future wannabe male talent makes it easier for replacements
to be contracted/employed in place of union guys; and, the "mainstreaming"
and more societal acceptance of porn as a part of life has provided
a deluge of new female talent in the past few years. How would a union
survive if talent demands financially jeopardize the existence of
porn companies, and if union members could easily and quickly be permanently
replaced?
5. AIM has done an admirable job; I feel considerably safer now than
I did pre-AIM! NOTE: I'm writing this on the evening of May 9, 2004.
Yesterday, Ron Jeremy, Mary Cary, Angel Cassidy, and I were contracted
to do the appearance "thing" at a San Diego event. Because the crowds
were so large, we had little/no time at the signing-appearance to
adequately chat about the above matters amongst ourselves; however,
Ron Jeremy and I ended up at the same event later in the evening where
we chatted at length about the present HIV situation, and found that
we agreed considerably. I mentioned to Ron that I might write down
my thoughts, and since he was so definite in his comments, I asked
him if he wanted me to include a comment to the effect that "Ron Jeremy
and I agree in large part"----Ron said "No, it's not just in large
part, Dave, it's EXACTLY"!
David Aaron Clark responds:
Dave, you hit just about all the nails right on the head ... my only
remark would be concerning your first point, something I've been discussing
with friends and colleagues since this began ... I think you're absolutely
right that "heaping additional costs" on production companies would
drive some out of business -- and I say, good! There's no constitutional
right to be an irresponsible businessman, and the primitve labor standards,
etc of the porn industry -- not just in front of the camera, in many,
many cases, but all the way down to the warehouse -- and lack of regulation
have, since the advent of cheap video technology, attracted more and
more questionable producers/companies to the business. This is what
the business really needs, I feel; the chaos around us is because
it's in a state of flux. Back when the Mafia really did run things,
there was some oversight, and the antics of rogue producers were not
tolerated.
Now, despite all this talk about "community" (and believe me, I'd
like to see a stronger, more sensible one codify) if you so much as
remark that somebody's shooting habits are reckless, dangerous and
anti-social, all you get is somebody going "$$$$$$$$$" as if that's
supposed to end all discussion and debate ...
I agree very much that it would be nice if the companies were to
compromise with the government, and at least use condoms for anal
scenes .... just like they did with the creation of 2257 ... but as
in that case, it unfortunately will take legal action on the government's
part, because the business of porn has become rife with the same mentality
that afflicts American society today on a larger level -- call it
the "Enron mentality." In other words, "we'll keep getting away with
everything we can for as long as they'll let us."
Here's an interesting footnote: Some distributors who previously
bought creampie titles are showing reluctance to pick up new ones,
ESPECIALLY if they're anal creampies.
Porn Videos Done Like A Music Video
David
Aaron Clark writes on AdultDVDTalk.com:
I've been doing it for about six or seven years now, off and on,
starting with ASIANATRIX: SUFFERING ETERNAL (softcore fetish, '98)
and all the way up to K-POP. I am a former musician -- my old band
False Virgins put out two albums in 91-92, the first one produced
by Lee Ranaldo of Sonic Youth -- and after running out of old tracks
to use last year began composing again. Nowadays, thanks to the miracle
of Soundtrack, it's very easy and fun for me to not just throw music
on my soundtrack but actually compose it to go along with the final
edit. You might want to check out the Extreme version of ASIANATRIX
(2000), ASIA NOIR 2 & 3, and both volumes of ZEN & THE ART OF FELLATIO
(though the latter series is rather an ... acquired taste.)
There have been plenty of video editors to get AVN Awards who were
not also directors. However, I might note that the best directors
either sit in on their editing or do it themselves -- the majority
of the E.A. guys being the best example . I started editing my own
stuff four years ago, and my style today reflects the fact that the
same guy shooting the camera is the one editing it. Editing your own
stuff results in being a better shooter.
Anybody in porn who neither holds their own camera or at least sits
in on editing is not really a "director," but more of a producer,
because they really don't have that much to do with shaping the product
besides casting the performers and telling them what kind of sex to
have.
As for my style of editing, I find the best analogy to be scuplting
-- I take raw footage and slowly whittle it down to what should be
there, emphasizing what needs to be emphasized, and making multiple
passes until I have my "final" product. I say "final" because even
now there isn't a show I've done that if I could go back there wouldn't
be some fine-tuning I would make. Of course, i take longer than your
average porn editor to do my work -- I am more painstaking because
it is in my best interest on every level to do the best job possible.
I agree that porn editors are woefully underpaid and unappreciated
in this business.
p.s. I'm indeed one of those damn directors who have gotten AVN
noms for my editing. But I deserved it.
Van Styles Is A Prodigy
David
Aaron Clark writes on AdultDVDTalk.com:
Don't know when I've seen someone go from pretty much 0 to 90 miles
per in such record time. He's younger than most of the other shooters
in the biz and already "gets it" better than the great majority of
them -- he has a great passion and devotion to what he does, as opposed
to the thousand and one performers who decided just because they know
how to f-ck in front of the camera that if they wandered around to
somewhere on the other side they could suddenly declare themselves
"directors." (all exceptions to that rule, number one of which would
be Brandon Irons, please forgive me for generalizing). Though considering
how many friends I'm making these days with my unpopular stands on
the moratorium that this may be more of a curse than a benediction
coming from my lips, allow me to steal a famous rave: "I have seen
the future of porn and it is Van Styles."
Who's Shooting? Who, What, When, Where, Why?
In the minds of some pornographers, AdultDVDtalk
is now the number one place to get information.
Here
are quotes from this thread:
Quasarman writes May 5: "Certain producers are quietly shooting
scenes with people who aren't on either quarantine list and obviously
a few morons shooting people who are. Most people I know however are
not shooting at all, myself included. I've never had this much free
time on my hands. Maybe I'll build a birdhouse or something."
fjackyx (Montreal's Dugmor who's sister is a contract girl for Vivid?)
writes: "Is it true that jewel at platinum x is shooting today
or tommorrow.. HOW CAN SHE DO THAT?"
Q replies: "I would imagine that it would entail her putting a
videotape into a camera and then pointing it at people who aren't clothed.
That's just a guess however."
Jewel DeNyle from Platinum X Pictures posts:
I've been silent on this issue as I've been in KY you jerk offs doing
business (bookstore signings) and for your information the talent
I did shoot were cleard by Aim to shoot as they were from out of town
and had nothing to do with the scare. And another fact I'd never in
my life shoot anyone and put them in harms way!!! So while I've been
gone working out of town you all come down on me shame on you as I've
been trying my heart out to get people together to do the right thing.
It's cuz I'm Pagan. I knew they'd come after me.
The reason this 60 hold is happening is you have irresponsable directors
that don't look or even care who's on the list and will shoot reguardless
so for a few bad apples we have this whole thing blown way out of
perportion. Look at the Jay Ashley thing for instance? Did they call
AIM and get clearance to shoot him? The answer is NO! I from day one
before this whole HIV scare came down cleared all my talent through
AIM before I'd let them set foot in front of a camera and they also
must have valid ID'S showing the name on the ID matches their tests
if everyone was as responsable as this we wouldn't be having this
60 day hold. When I shot this last week I did call AIM to get clearance
on all the talent like I always do so I'm not the enemy and I never
have been. Check yourself before you come down on me as you all look
like a bunch of two faced idiots. Come down on the assholes in this
business who could give a f-ck less about the talent and lay off of
me who goes out of my way from day one to keep it clean.
And as for DAC you are a jerk stay clear of me and my company if
you were on fire I wouldn't piss on you. Trying to be a hero you've
never been on top and you stroll through company to company your words
mean as much to me as a pimple on my ass. You are a two faced double
chinned jerk off know your facts before you attack. If anyone else
would like to attack me without knowing what I'm doing go for it bring
it on as I've done my best and held my own and take care of my own
an that's more then I can say for most.
The talent I used were not exposed ever as they came from out of
town and weren't around during the outbreak and didn't work during
the outbreak so they were given clearance to work as they were never
exposed. Only talent that's been exposed or that worked during the
time of the outbreak have been on hold and I've not used any of them.
And I always call AIM and yes I have a good relationship with them
because I'm very responsable with the talent I use and make sure they
are fine to work and that's the way it's always been with me from
day one. Anyone who's worked with me knows the procedure I go through
before I let them work and if there's not a test they don't work and
if AIM say's NO then they go home it's that simple. The 60 days is
to keep everyone safe because not all directors take the right measures
to look out for talent and half the time don't even ask for tests
and that's a problem so it's better to have them not shoot as who
knows who they'd hire and let work.
I haven't been shooting and I shot a couple of scenes only after
the talent was cleared by AIM to be fine to work. I'm off to Canada
to shoot this week an all G/G movie up there to keep it safe and they
all work within their own circle of girls. You have to understand
I will shoot only if talent is ok to work and if they're ok to work
then why shouldn't they. If they were never exposed they should be
working if they want as long as they work with other talent cleared
to work it's a simple phone call to AIM to see who's ok and who's
not but that seems to much for most directors to make that call that's
why they are holding up shop on shooting as not everyone is responsable
when it comes to talent I can explain this to you all day but unless
you've been talent you wouldn't understand.
Director David Aaron Clark writes:
THERE IS A 60-DAY MORATORIUM. TWO WEEKS AGO, AIM SAID THERE WOULD
BE NO FURTHER INFECTIONS. THERE HAVE BEEN TWO MORE IN THAT LINE OF
INFECTION SINCE THEN. THINGS ARE NOT GETTING BETTER.
It doesn't matter where the talent is from. If you let one person
start making excuses as to why THEY can shoot then others will begin
to rationalize as well. Jewel, who considering how quickly she answers
questions about her product and puts in her opinion on contract performers,
etc. is strangely silent here.
"How long you think is enough"???????????????? HOW ABOUT THE WHOLE
f-ckING 60 DAYS!
On top of it, frankly,with additional genealogies of infection being
revealed every week, from a medical standpoint the moratorium should
BE EXTENDED. And indeed that's what the authorities will do if this
nonsense continues. If you wanna shoot in Europe, Jewel, go to f-cking
Europe. Don't piss in my pool -- it ain't just yours, and some of
us have been in it a lot longer than you.
There are too many producers ignoring this moratorium, or trying
to rationalize their way out of it. I was told by a first-hand witness
that another prominent director is continuing to shoot unprotected
anal despite his public statement that he was honoring the moratorium
-- and one of the girls he shot, whether he knows it or not, is third-generation
exposure. Not technically under quarantine, but so.f-cking.what? I
would like to be shooting, too.
When this all came down I had to turn away an actress from Great
Britain whom I had been corresponding with and was very excited to
shoot. Despite that she was "fresh" to the talent pool and there was
male talent whom I use that had been out of town for weeks, I had
not a bit of trouble making that decision, even though budgets at
my company don't allow me to stockpile scenes at the rate of many
other companies. Producers could be experimenting with fetish titles.
They can be shooting handjobs, footjobs, solos. Of course these titles
won't sell as many pieces, but considering the name-brands attached
to them, I'm sure they would do quite well.
I don't buy any of these producers or directors who lives in a huge
house and trades in a brand-new luxury vehicle for a new one every
year crying poormouth and claiming that they will go out of business
if they don't have a brand-new anal or boy/girl title next month.
Is the idea of actually living modestly for a little while harder
to face than showing your disregard for the performers who make you
your money by encouraging and allowing them to break a moratorium
designed not only to contain a rapidly spreading chain of infection
but to stave off the government intervention that these same producers
so fear and decry? What selfish children.
fjackyx writes:
jewel stood up in front of a couple hundred people last week and
passed herself off as miss responsibilty to everyone there..she is
a perfect example of "do as i say not as i do" if the industry followed
her example there would be no way to contain this outbreak..i wonder
how jessica feels about her new boss continuing to shoot.. and i will
say it again, if it is not true that she is still shooting, i take
back everything i've said. i also make this pledge, if jewel posts
on this board that she HAS NOT AND WILL NOT SHOOT during this 60 day
moratorium i will personlly donate 1000 dollars to aim. i will put
my money where my mouth is...my sister is "talent" in this industry.
nothing is more important to me than protecting her, and i will do
everything i can to do just that so whats the answer jewel, i have
my checkbook out..i honestly hope i have to write this check. and
if i do, i give my most heartfelt apologies to you jewel...please
make me look like th idiot that some people on this board think i
am..i will wear that label proudly.
Chico Wang, formerly Wanker Wang of l-keford.com and ExtremeAssociates.com
(until their checks started bouncing), writes:
is this a witchhunt? what's wrong with shooting as long as you don't
shoot anyone on 'the list'? it is my contention, and always be my
contention, that the only people who will come up positive will be
first generation females via Darren James particularly from 03/23
and thereafter. i have shot scenes, mostly Internet scenes, with very
recent tests. this villification of those who shoot during this period
is irrational. there is no moratorium except for those companies who
want to honor it. most companies, however, are currently shooting.
i have asked publicly for AIM to clear male performers so I can use
them. but until that time, they will be tagged up as members of 'The
List'. i have a funny feeling this summer will be heavy in the shooting
department for the first time in recent memory.
David Aaron Clark replies:
Not only is there no way for everybody to know who's done what with
who -- you've done a great job of documenting quarantined performers
trying to sneak their way into gigs, but do you think we can possibly
be aware of them all? -- but I hold to my statement that we need to
send a message to the powers that would like to come down on us that
we have at least enough self-discipline to err on the side of caution
for two f-ckin' months. AND that when producers/talent see others
shooting all around them, they will follow suit no matter how different
their own situation is. You have pointed out many times that a great
many of the population we deal with is not exactly defined by their
high intelligence, responsibility to themselves or others, or self-control.
And a lot of those folk -- can we say TT Boy? -- are now producers/directors.
You are shooting internet content, as you say, but it's the same
talent pool. I believe that you're being scrupulously responsible
but there's no way you can know everything about what the people you're
shooting have been doing for the past month. And we certainly know,
as you've pointed out, that there's other video/internet shooters
who aren't being as responsible as you -- you outed one of them! I
wish you would come to the conclusion it would be wise to honor the
moratorium for the reasons I've suggested, but I respect you for being
honest and open about your decision.
I DON'T respect people who tell everybody else to "trust AIM" without
question and then ignore AIM's request for a 60-day moratorium when
THEY decide it's safe to shoot. I DON'T respect people who grab publicity
from the New York Times and say they're not shooting and then it's
discovered they're doing business as usual and shooting unprotected
anal with female performers who have been in the talent pool since
the start of this, and who are even third-generation ... you might
say the risk is minimal, but having never been a gambler in the first
place, I'm not playing the odds -- especially considering the stakes.
Chico Wanker Wang responds:
The only reason I have cancelled my scenes for this week which I
have done twice in the last three weeks is because everytime I hear
of another HIV+ case, I lose any passion I have for shooting. It's
also difficult when female talent calls me with some sob story about
financial difficulties and I know I'm going to shoot them eventually
anyways. It does however make me feel better when I know what pinpoint
who my male talent has performed with. Scott Nails and Tony T., I
know their past schedules and know their personal lives. One lives
with me, the other hangs out all the time. I've actually broken one
of my cardinal rules that I would never do under usual circumstances
by shooting couples.
I'm not trying to make excuses. I've always been brutally honest
to a fault. I think alot of people are blowing the possibilities of
infection way out of proportion because a production company went
to Brazil and shot performers who's past history and paperwork were
unclear. Regarding the powers that be, they are going to come down
on us regardless of a voluntary moratorium or not. The only thing
that may expedite this inevitable invasion will be those unscrupulous
directors that intentionally put female talent in possible harm's
way by shooting those on 'the list'. They have a bizarre tendency
of lumping all pornographers as seedy, gutter rats requiring extermination.
Oren from Anarchy Films, a split off from Sin City led by Oren's father
Guy, writes:
AVN, Adult FYI, and simplyjimmyd just posted that SinCity/Mayhem
are shooting at the Czech Republic. The problem here is that Jay Ashley,
Aurora Snow's boy friend, have shot three scenes for her. The dude
is on generation two and probably Ms. Snow is on generation three
unless they did'nt do the nasty in the past 45 days. SinCity was the
first one to come out and say that they halted production until June
8th. Did they mean one production or all productions? You might think
that Sin City as "big" as they are have movies in the cane, but I
guess not. The worst part is that at the beginning of every VHS and
DVD they have a tif that says that Sin City encourages safe sex and
calls for condoms. My point is that they should be ashamed of themselves.
How in the world you allow a generation two talent continues to have
unprotected sex. They call for safe sex and they let Jay Ashley shoot
for them. Working there for seven years I know they would say "We
didn't know" and play the stupid game. David Sturman, the owner of
Sin City knows everything. He even knew when we took a smoking break
and what we ate for lunch. Shame on you for putting more people at
risk!
Renee writes: "About 3 months ago, I watched a interesting Behind-the-Scenes
from an American actor/director with two of his American actor/director
buddies. They had all just arrived in Budapest from Los Angeles, went
straight to the bank to get stacks of American dollars, and then got
right on a train to Prague, where they were going to start shooting
scenes first. The first actor/director was saying that it had been two
whole days since he had had sex, and he was getting desperate to get
to Prague and do a scene, since he didn't want to have to hire a hooker
to satisfy his needs (and he looked desperate, believe me). There was
no mention of stopping by a clinic or lab to get an HIV test, or waiting
overnight for test results."
David Aaron Clark writes:
Ramsey, this is the problem with the kind of extreme sex I know from
our RAME days you love -- a huge percentage of the people performing
those acts and the people commissioning them are not responsible to
themselves or each other. All aesthetics issues aside over what kind
of sex you might like to see versus what kind of sex I might like
to see, what you're seeing go on now in the business is not even a
full look at how too many have conducted themselves for too long --
before this there have been mini-epidemics of clhymedia, gonnoreaha,
etc. Guess what: This time it's HIV.
I am heartsick and outraged beyond belief at what is going on here.
I used to be quite friendly with Jewel and Mike -- he and I go all
the way back to Extreme -- but there is no excuse for this. There
is also no excuse for a director I had been friendly with prior to
this to tell the New York Times and AVN that he's honoring the moratorium
when in fact he's still shooting unprotected anal. Sorry if you don't
like it coming out.
When I stood up at the meeting and implored producers to reconsider
shooting double anal, anal creampies, etc, and indeed putting an emphasis
on anal in every scene possible, you called me up the next day "genuinely
hurt" because you thought I was speaking directly to you, since you
were sitting there in front of me. I told you that I understood anal
was your thing, and that I have never heard anything from your sets
other than you are a responsible director who does not pressure performers
or brutally push them past their boundaries, as some other performers
do, and that therefore you did have my respect. Not any more.
You are playing with the lives of people I know and care about. I
know you read this board; I know what you're doing. Stop it. If you
are ignorant and reckless enough to put all of us at such risk for
the sake of your ambition, you are not my friend or my colleague,
and I don't care about how good you are at what you do. Right now,
you are what makes this business ugly and unsafe. I will not participate
in a wall of silence. It is NOT protecting the industry, it is protecting
a greedy segment of it who despite unctous surface charms don't give
a sh-t about anybody but themselves. That's not MY industry. The people
in MY industry, though they might often be outcasts and anti-social
and seen as freaks to those on the outside, are still human beings.
I thought you were one of us, but with this decision -- and covering
it up, because you KNOW it's wrong -- you have chosen the other side.
Just so the rest of you know, we are hearing in the industry that
it's not over. So 30 days ISN'T long enough to wait.
Quasarman writes:
The ones to blame for the present situation afflicting our industry
are... all of you vocal fans out there who cry out for double-this
and quadruple-that, all of you less than creative "directors" who
mistake extremism for eroticism and lastly, the rest of us producers
and Directors who have been too blinded by our jaded and callous existence
and our infatuation with commerce to see that trying to keep up with
the Jones's was turning the biz into an increasingly dangerous joke.
I'm as guilty as anyone but not nearly as guilty as some.
I'm not preaching to anyone but I've been in the biz long enough
to see the sinister transformation from sex movies to circus movies.
I've been here long enough to see the transformation from the at -least
-implied-reverence of the female to the very real misogyny which we
now have.
When I was a fan instead of the densensitized asshole which I am
now, it never occured to me that I would enjoy seeing Ashlyn Gere
or Kelly O'Dell in a double anal scene or a "cream pie". In my OPINION,
there is no NEED for these things. They may sell but at what real
cost? They are inherently dangerous and completely unecessary for
the purpose of jacking-off. In reality "Cream pie" is the innocuous
description of an act of incredible irresponsibilty in the real world
and an act of supreme ignorance in the porn world and "double anal"
is a pointless circus act which does nothing to enhance the heat of
a scene but everything to make it five times more dangerous.
In our constant zeal to top one another with our outrageous content
I feel that we have made this a dangerous business which now has more
to do with degradation, humiliation and just plain silliness than
with titilation.
Though I have never really been a party to any of the above-mentioned
activities as a Director, I still feel some degree of responsibility
for their existence because I have always been of the mindset, despite
my personal beliefs that "Who cares, as long as it sells". I have
never felt particularly proud to be in this business but this is the
first time I have felt ashamed.
David Aaron Clark writes:
I'm considering the idea of trying to get together a couple of directors
who feel this way to simply draft a statement -- not a binding statement,
not an accusatory statement, but simply a way of publically standing
up to say some of us think things have gone too far. No promises for
people to break six months later, but just something right now, in
the hopes more in the industry will stand up. If some of our "meat
puppets" have the balls to stand up on this, even for a minute, I
think maybe we should, too. Now is the minute, and I suspect this
is not a chance that will come again for a long time.
AVN has offered to print a letter from me (as opposed to taking a
stand themselves), but I would much rather see a group statement from
however many directors of conscience would consider signing it. I
know we all can be even more competitive and backbiting than the performers
-- hell, could be cuz there's less work (and at lower pay) to go around
for us -- but it's a thought.
Chico Wanker Wang writes:
The vast majority of pornographers and performers came into this
business because they have a, dare I say, addiction to sex. The vast
majority of porn fans out there, including most of those who read
and post on this board, have an addiction to jerking off to pornography
and have channeled this addiction into a hobby at the highest level.
The increasing sport f-cking nature of the business has become prevalent
because the consumer wants it. Not only that, but an increasing number
of directors who reflect the consumer's desires also want to shoot
it.
Now is simply not a time to indict, villify or cast aspersions on
either ourselves or the rest of the industry because of career choices
we have made. There simply is no other career that even comes close.
Pornography reflects our culture whether you like it or not. Our pop
culture is becoming more extreme as evidenced by what we watch on
the television set or the big screen. With our increasingly short
attention spans, that which makes us gawk at the screen often is the
only form of entertainment that captures our attention in this ADD
world. Some of us chose this profession based, perhaps, on a lack
of talent.
Do you think honestly that I could write, direct, or build websites
in the real world? Possibly. Maybe. Barely. Would I want to after
experiencing life in Porn Valley? Probably not. One interesting phenomenon
I've noticed in the porno world (I may be biased because I've only
been around the business about 2 1/2 years) is that the general median
IQ of those in it are significantly lower than those of other 'professional'
mainstream jobs. You are going to have a plethora of people who are
con artists, swindlers, and/or just plain imbeciles. I never pretended
to be the smartest, usually I'm a f-cking idiot, but it's easy for
me to climb the ladder fast because there simply is no better alternative
in an industry rife with even bigger idiots than myself. It reminds
me of what my friend Mark Kulkis once told me: "In the land of the
blind, the one-eyed man is king." It is an industry where only a select
few have the most because the select few have the most (if that makes
any sense). Try to pull some of the idiotic maneuvers in porno I've
seen in, let's say, a corporate America job in, let's say, real estate,
computer science, or journalism and you are toast, dead in the water,
forever tainted. Do it in porno and you get another job in two shakes
of a lamb's tail.
The real world is about results, often times in porno land it's more
about self-inflated hype. How else can you explain a bunch of morons
who will violate this voluntary quarantine and, guaranteed, will continue
to work after the quarantine has been lifted? Do any of you really
think LT Turner, Tony Sexton, Max Blacc, and countless others will
suddenly be deprived of employment opportunities even though they
carry the "Marc Wallice" badge of honor? Porn people have short memories
and people will continue to shoot them in this meat market. And girls
will continue to work with them. I've always found this industry to
be funny. Comedic to a certain extent. However, with this crisis,
it is becoming less funny. Suddenly the 'cartoon characters' are looking
more sinister by the day. One thing I will never do is apologize for
being a pornographer. It is a gutter profession that'll always be
in the gutter but I am proud to be swimming in the sh-t.
David Aaron Clark writes:
No, I will not let you go, W, because your thoughts become increasingly
more interesting -- especially since you're touching on a couple of
things that you and I hotly debated a couple of years ago, and that
time we were far more at polar opposites than now.
Believe me, I am not ashamed to be a pornographer. Specifically:
I am not ashamed that my life's work is turning out to be creating
material that however artfully or even transcendentally it's done
is still created for the primary purpose of allowing its viewer to
get his (or sometimes, as SO THEY CLAIM "her") wank on. I'm perfectly
okay with that, man.
And I know I have the ability to successfully create for audiences
of other kinds of material -- I won't claim I set the world on fire,
but I have done enough other things (novels, music,. etc) to enough
success that I can at least make a convincing argument to my own ego
that whether or not I could have reached the success level of a Philip
K. Dick (who was pretty poor all his life, though well-published --
he saw a preview screening of BLADERUNNER just before he croaked)
or a Sonic Youth, I could have made my living in those fields, and
had at least a modest audience. It was coming, already.
In my case, you hit the nail on the head with one of your other
points -- I was controlled and influenced by a lifelong sexual obsession.
Hey, I admit it. It is what is. If due to the nature of my personality
my talents are most naturally drawn towards pornography, I don't consider
that a bad thing at all. And my mom doesn't, either. Well, she wouldn't
if I had told her. (J/K; she's just glad I'm gainfully employed.)
As to what else besides this you're truly capable of, who knows
-- I do know that when I've wanted over the years to twist your f-cking
head off it wasn't because I merely felt you were being an insufferable
asshole -- the world's full of them, and most of them rarely get under
my skin. Nah, it was because it was easy to see you do have a formidably
nimble wit, intelligence and talent with language, with communication,
capable of accomplishing more than most. You managed to send me into
murderous rages both because you applied your talents toward it and
because I thought it was a criminal waste of those talents to deliberately
pickle and remove yourself and turn everything into a bored laboratory
exercise, instead of accepting the responsibility of finding the best
(and, um, most ethical) way to use them. And see, I've always thought
porn can be one of them. You didn't -- and you know when somebody
in this biz mentions those who get immersed in self-hatred because
they didn't live up to what they had decided was their proper potential,
the speaker is inevitably refering to himself, as well, to even be
able to truly recognize that emotion.
The way I saw it, part of your self defense was to make targets of
those of us who, confronting that feeling, decided that this work
is also serious and valid, and you considered our willingness to commit
to this career without the safety of irony and half-effort a absurdly
self-delusional act of ego begging to be lampooned. And often, even
I thought you were right. To me, that somebody of your intelligence
and talent could also stoop to pulling some of the sh-t you did --
we won't relive it -- was far more irritating than if it had been
attempted by your average smartass drunken clown. But you reveled
in that role, for reasons I won't presume to have insight into, and
the way I saw it you became more of a force for dragging EVERYbody
down to the level you already saw much of our little cargo culture
is at. I don't know, maybe you just wanted to be one of the popular
kids :)
With all respects to many people we know and care for, I can't dispute
that if indeed in the kingdom of the blind the one-eyed man is king
then Beavis OR Butthead could be elected emperorer of the universe
here in f-ckworld. And it can get so irritating and tedious that the
only answer is to laugh at it. But as I've gotten older (oh, shut
up, I hear you now!) I've gone from thinking the same as you that
the lines are drawn between smart and stupid to that they are drawn
between decent people and dicks. Look at Tony T; I gather that you
consider him a decent person, yes? When you explained things to him
he didn't go get what was left of his budget from Scott Justice and
sneak off to Budapest, no?
Yes, people can do bad things because they're stupid but with all
the information presented to them, the people in this current situation
are not "stupid" -- instead, for a bunch of selfish purposes, they're
wilfully forcing themselves into a state of denial -- "Since I need
to get paid/get shows shot, and since of course my needs outweigh
all other concerns to me, I will convince myself despite what I'm
being told that I can go to Budapest and f-ck some girls and nothing
bad will happen, that the odds cannot be anywhere but in my favor,
because I am the center of the universe." Dangerously delusional,
but not stupid.
The stupid part comes in when they let themselves get caught, of
course, and we both know there are plenty of somewhat brighter bulbs
out there who at least realized that if they were, as they look at
it in their own minds, even going to give the possibly damaging public
impression that they were acting in an antisocial way (though they're
convinced in their own minds, again, that the odds will always be
in their favor), they'd better go about their business in a more circumspect
manner. And there are those cynical enough to think -- I fear as you
say rightfully so -- that even if they get caught people will shrug
and forgive them eventually. Or immediately. (Like the powers that
be have done with TT Boy)
Though some of these people are indeed dumb as lichen, the real common
factor is that they are all dicks. Stupid people can do the right
thing without understanding all its nuance, and smart people can often
better rationalize away doing wrong (...) Again, at the risk of coming
off smug or condescending to you when I truly am not being either,
and truly don't care to have any kind of unnecessary friction between
us, from here in the cheap seats it looks to me like you've gradually
moved away from rationalizing, and begun to take a degree of responsibility
commensurate with your gifts. (Don't worry, I ain't canonizing you
yet -- I've seen some of your trailers)
And no, f-ckworld wasn't always quite so ... intellectually challenged.
At least so overwhelmingly. But as you say, this place will always
in blunt and cartoon-like fashion reflect the state of society in
general. But even if society has grown more callous, more selfish,
more openly greedy, there are always different levels to society,
and a constant tension between groups of individuals with all kinds
of values -- just because unabashed intellectuality is not Kool With
the Kids and on an Abercrombie and Fitch t-shirt, that doesn't mean
it doesn't have its place and a need for it. A smart person trying
to play stupid is as sad as it is laughable to watch a stupid person
trying to come off as smart. Neither is necessary ... "However, with
this crisis, it is becoming less funny. Suddenly the 'cartoon characters'
are looking more sinister by the day." Once more: a friendly "ha."
My words come back to haunt you, out of your own mouth. Prior to
this, my lack of sense of humor and your devotion to yours made us
deeply disagree on whether what we both saw in front of us was something
to be disturbed about. Now what we both see in front of us is something
that, even if you and I differ on an issue or so, we both agree is
serious enough to be disturbed about. And it has nothing to do with
the urge to make pornography. Perhaps we're embarssed and ashamed
that we have so many colleagues who are dicks, but we both know there
are those that are decent, too.
So let's hope more people follow the examples I think we're both
trying to set in our own ways, and weed out the dicks so decent people
won't be hurt and will be able to go about their business eventually
again. Of swimming in the sh-t. If I actually got you to read all
the way to the bottom of this, I expect the Nobel committee will be
contacting me shortly. Keep up the good work, Monkey King.
Quasarman writes:
I agree with you that no other career comes close but that's because
no other career, as you've said, would tolerate our juvenile ways.
I'm sure that you and I and DAC and lots of others out there would
do just fine in the real world if not for the requirements of discipline
and maturity.
I'm 33 years old and this is really the only job I've ever had and
the only reason I'm still here is because in porn you can't get fired
for being completely irresponsible. Personally, my most egregious
offences have been to show up late on occasion and on occasion show
up with a hangover but even that steroid and speed receptacle Jay
Ashley will find plenty of work after he returns from sending the
Czech Republic into a panic. Christ, Marc Wallice has a job!!! No
wonder I'm doing really well after all these years; The worst I've
ever behaved was showing up to the set with a 6 pack to fight back
vodka induced nausea. Of course in the real world, coming to work
with a 6 pack might be grounds for termination.
When I say that I've never been particularly proud of being in the
industry it's because somebody out there is about to discover the
cure for cancer and I point a camera at genitals. Granted, creativity
and intelligence can be injected into porn to make it something other
than the most disposable form of entertainment but that hasn't happened
much and when I say that I haven't been ashamed until now it's because
I don't think it will ever happen again.
The double anal creampie bukkake chicken has come home to roost.
David Aaron Clark writes:
The moratorium was requested by AIM, Wanker, not "a bunch of companies."
And the publicity machine of this business has been trying hard to
make the outside press think that it -- not just the Q list -- is
being adhered to. In terms of accountability to her public, the sword
cuts both ways -- if Jewel is going to seek publicity and sales and
pats on the back for hiring Jessica Dee, then she is putting herself
in the position to be questioned. And it IS the business of everyone
in the business to examine what not only we're doing but what the
person next to them is doing. If some of us -- including myself --
had the balls to speak up about other people's shooting practices
before, the 4 people in question quite likely wouldn't be infected.
Perhaps I was being too generous.
You still flinch at the idea that in a decent and humane society,
everyone has to take responsibilty not just for how their behavior
affects them but how it affects those around them. That's hardly a
high-falutin' or elitist or egotistical stance. And when I make public
my stances, it's not because I want anybody to think I'm better than
them, or for them to "follow me." It's because I'm NOT so egotistical
as to think that nothing matters but my own gain. I take stances that
I know will be unpopular to many -- especially those who'd rather
not have their bullsh-t brought to light -- because I feel a sense
of responsibility as a decent human being.
You're the follower: From Extreme to Khan to Anabolic, you have followed
and done whatever you were paid for, whether it's posting racist bullsh-t
about Lexington Steele, printing sh-t you know is lies about me, or
shooting anal cream pies. You say you're nowadays not being a jerk
to people you don't know or that you disapprove of because as a director
you have to be nicer to get ahead -- sorry that I had mistaken that
for a newly born conscious. I won't be so open or generous in the
future. But keep up the good work on your reporting of those breaking
the Q list -- it's the only thing I've seen you give back to this
industry so far.
Wanker Wang replies:
DAC, I'm absolutely thrilled you know so much about me and my motives.
For the record, I have yet to print any lies about you. Video Team
tells me enough about you that I choose not to print simply because
it doesn't affect me or my business personally. For the record, I
have never shot a cream pie. It's just not my thing, though you have
shot an entire movie based on a cream pie and are somehow scurrying
away with excuses how you fell into the trappings of capitalism despite
what your conscience feels. I don't personally give a flying f-ck
who is shooting or who is not. I have made it clear it affects me
and my industry if it involves quarantined performers. You want to
go on getting hostile about who is shooting what and when, be my guest.
I do question your motives. I do not think they are as pure as you
lead everyone here to believe. And they do smack of self-righteous.
You're history proves it. If I have been the follower, you have a
history of getting fired from company after company with a series
of poor decision making. Now you want to be the arbiter of all that
is righteous and moral? No thanks. I think I'd trust Rob Spallone
to run AIM than yourself and that's really pushing it.
David Aaron Clark replies:
I certainly know all about you, pal. And I know Video Team doesn't
tell you anything; even if they did there's nothing to tell. As well,
I have kept copies of the lies you and your former Khan toady Slain
Wayne used to post. I apologize for thinking you have shot creampies,
and I have no excuses that I did. I explained my less than noble motives
and have admitted my error -- which is more than I've ever seen you
do. Even now, you lie about me -- who ever fired me? Not Cream. I
walked out of there because their checks kept bouncing. Heatwave?
Yeah, because I didn't want to shoot the sh-t they wanted with the
people they wanted. Not Vivid: I didn't ask for any more work because
I tried their production system and didn't like it. Not Odyssey: they
went out of business. And certainly not Extreme. I walked out of there
out of conscience, because Rob and Tommy wanted me to tell them that
if I was ever again in a situation where a girl's asshole was bleeding
and John Strong or Mike Stefano insisted on using a condom to finish
the scene I would threaten to fire them on the spot and make them
finish the scene unprotected.
You, however, came there later and did everything you were told to
-- including assisting Gene Ross in making all those humorous character
assassinations and graphics of Fishbein, Kernes and the others at
AVN you're now successfully kissing up to. You, on the other hand,
have stood in a room and grinned like a jackal while your boss choked
women into unconsciousness and then asked me, "What's the big deal,
all these people are cartoons, anyway?" Go ahead, try to deny it all
now -- we both know it's true, and we both know all the people who
know it's true.
I am going to answer this constructively and at length, including
an explanation to Jewel, apology for hysteria but not for accountability,
as well as a polite but firm statement of difference of opinion on
what is good citizenship at this time, which is certainly my right,
oh fella who got into this business by being paid to take over L-ke
F-ord's mantle and poke into everybody's business -- you did the amazing
job of making him look like a responsible journalist in comparison.
I have been and am doing something constructive -- some of it around
the corner, some of it already here: I have said I will not put my
performers at risk by shooting them in creampies or double-anal, because
those and coming directly into the eye -- something only a few specialize
in -- are more high risk acts than other non-condomed sex, which is
still risky but not as much. You try to drag us down degree by degree
into a land where nothing is true, everything is permitted -- to quote
the prophet, to those who know what I mean --and therefore there is
no need for attention to degrees of self-restraint. There's a very
wide chasm between a no flesh-to-flesh safe-sex puritanical zealot
and the guy who doesn't care if he might be making a snuff film. The
devil is in the degrees. As always, you speak in the self-interest
of your company, when God knows, mine wishes I would shut the hell
up. But believe enough in the free exchange of ideas not to do it
themselves.
Colton, to my knowledge the only thing Video Team has shot is a girl/girl
between two European girls who were already in town specifically and
only for that shoot at the very time that Darren was announced positive.
That was not my shoot or my decision; as I've made clear here, I speak
only for myself, not Video Team.
Jewel, I'm not going to call you names. I was planning all day to
point out, and I still will, that on a personal and one-to-one level
you are an extraordinarily honest and decent person in a business
where there are few. I do happen to think that at this time, on a
professional level you are making rationalizations as to why the rules
shouldn't apply to you -- you are indeed the one who kept telling
us to trust AIM without question.
I'm not trying to be a hero, I'm just trying to make sure in two
months somebody on my own set doesn't give someone HIV because as
any real medical professional will point out, the real window of satety
here becomes operative at 90 days, not even 60. At 60 it's 96 percent
clear -- that four percent chance is pretty damn big, and I know several
performers who have some a little perspective who plan to wait out
even the 60 days.
I have realized I don't need to really fight with you or Wanker on
"who deserves to be an industry spokesperson." Both of you have certainly
spoken out extensively here and in public at how you think everybody
else should be acting, and I'm merely doing the same. I don't want
to be an "industry spokesperson" -- frankly, my first love is filmmaking,
not politics -- but I have also earned the right by staying intelligent
and informed -- plus having more time in this biz than both of you
put together, and watching the mistakes that I and others have made
and learned from before you -- that I have the right to be a citizen
of conscience and speak up.
I was not the one standing up telling people at the meeting a couple
of weeks ago to just do AIM said, and to keep the governments off
our backs -- which, no offense, I find suspect whenever it's a company
owner in ANY industry discussing regulation meant to protect their
employees, and therefore cost said employer money. Workplace regulation,
rather than giving the government an excuse to stamp out porn, will
only legitimize us in the course of First Amendment battles, which
is where the real confrontation lies. This is NOT a First Amendment
battle. This is a safety issue.
I did get up at the end of the meeting along with other talent and
directors like Tricia, Seymore Butts, etc, to plead to my colleagues
for more responsibility in how they treat the talent that trusts them,
and to not only stop shooting creampies and double anal but reconsider
the prevalent knee-jerk reaction among most directors that if it's
possible to get an anal scene, that's what they'll shoot.
Frankly, that's why the stuff that some people shoot has advanced
to such dangerous, unpleasant levels -- because middle-of-the-road
producers have become so anal-obsessed in search of profits that others
look for even further ways to push it. And if you're thinking right
now "that's not my f-cking business, double-chin loser," I beg to
differ -- it is. I do know my facts. I sent a private message to you
asking why you and Mike were shooting boy/girl that was not answered,
and I asked Brandon what was up -- he said he hadn't been in contact
with either of you, but had no idea you were out of town. I might
add that he seems to be in favor of the moratorium. I'm sorry that
you weren't here when I brought this up, but from what I feared would
be your reaction even then, I guess it doesn't matter.
And indeed you're right never in my career have I experienced the
financial success that you have, and it took me a long time to find
a good home, because I came into this business with the desire not
to become rich and "beat" everybody else and lock up all the talent
and etc. etc, but to create the pornography I wanted to see, rather
than "product" that everybody wanted to buy. You obviously thrive
on competition based on popularity and financial success, but despite
that I have very strong opinions on what makes for quality and what
doesn't, Part of the reason for this is that I was a leading porn
critic for eight years before becoming a director, not only watching
but dissecting and analyzing what I thought was good and bad, what
worked, what didn't I used to interview directors like Stag, Leslie
and Joey, and ask and listen to them talk about their work. I came
here to make porn, not to get rich. In those goals, I have succeeded.
I don't consider myself in competition with anyone else, except maybe
those directors with similar creative ambitions as me -- and even
in that case, I consider it a friendly competition. When I see someone
make a video, that impresses me, it pushes me to put more work into
my own stuff, rather than figure out how I can corner that market
share.
I'm not insulting you, and I could be wrong but I think you would
in normal, non-combative times easily agree that your desire to become
a director seems to be based on business ambition more than creative
drive, and you have done a great job at successfully utilizing your
success and image as an actress to give your product a brand name.
More power to you -- you successfully serve the audience that likes
your stuff, and I successfully serve mine. If you think the size of
your audience makes you somehow more succesful or entitled to tell
people off or even have an opinion that differs with others than me,
then I fear there is indeed NO life after high school for some of
us (which, respectuflly, is where you were when I started as a journalist
covering this business) .
However, I don't think your financial success allows you to decide
that you have special rights and privileges regarding this moratorium.
Obviously some people agree with you and some people agree with me.
If the shoe were on the other foot I have trouble believing that you
wouldn't be the first one to speak up on what you thought was the
right thing, as you have never had any problem telling other people
what to do or the way things should be. Not that I have, either --
though hardly as often and as loudly as the people who are accusing
me of doing that at this time because the industry is at a crucial
turning point and anyone affected has the responsibility to speak
up and demand community-wide reforms, however unpopular their stance
might be with some.
I have accepted that I will lose some friends and a lot of casual
colleagues for doing and saying not what you or Wanker or anybody
else thinks is right but what I think is right. The sh-thole this
place has turned into since only a year or two after you yourself
got here cannot go on -- as Quaze says, "the anal creampie chickens
have come home to roost." However responsibly you behave on your sets
-- and I know for a fact you ARE one of the most responsible on-set
directors in the business -- it doesn't give you, or Wanker, or me,
or any of us the justification or special privileges to make ourselves
the exception to a simple, easy rule meant to save some lives.
You certainly deserve a mitzvah for helping Jessica -- though in
both Judaism and Buddhism, you lose the karma of a good deed if you
insist on calling attention to it (and they didn't even HAVE press
releases in those days) -- but I don't think you can also afford to
hire anybody else who shows up positive within the next three months.
While there are others who have done nothing but live down to exactly
how they think they might behave at this time, I was honestly and
genuinely shocked and dismayed -- and angry, frankly -- when I learned
you were shooting, especially when you indeed seem to be more interested
in the mantle of the "hero" and the "leader" than I.
As I said, nothing but respect for what I know of you as a person,
and prior to our extraordinarily strong disagreement on this issue,
have shown nothing but that to you in person or "behind your back."
If this opens a bridge for us to try to discuss this rationally, either
here or in private, that's great. If not, then I assure you that I
am very, very picky about what women I consider allowing to piss on
me, even if I'm on fire. I need to really, really know they respect
me as a person first.
Despite spending ten years as a non-L.A.-based porn critic before
deciding to take the plunge, I was still under the misaprehension
that the companies here would welcome a more mature, complex genre
of porn if it was offered to them -- something that would, if not
equal, at least aspire to the kind of serious studies of sexuality
that drives undisputed works of art such as LAST TANGO IN PARIS, VIDEODROME,
CRASH and IN THE REALM OF THE SENSES (Just to name four personal favorites).
I learned how wrong I was -- the gonzo companies (with the exception
of E.A.) were afraid of anything that betrayed enough I.Q. points
to alienate consumers with the mindset that any one who values a good
education is just a snob putting on airs who happens to be "good at
memorizin' stuff," while at ALL of the bigger feature companies, there
was an entrenched and self-perpetuating culture of middle-brow mediocrity
perpetrated by too many journeymen creators and downright hacks.
Despite that I already had more production and industry credentials
than this week's "hot new director," when I approached most of these
people, they were frightened and confused and scratching their heads
-- the major exception being Michael Raven, whose work you really
should watch. Although he's certainly foisted his share of by-the-numbers
crap out there, he's also crafted just about the most outstanding
features that porn has released since the golden age of features.
Though my lack of false modesty in this area may grate on those full
of judgements but with no resume of their own to speak of, I will
say that the movies he's made from my scripts are high-quality, well-acted
and intelligent work -- BEAST, UNDERWORLD and the upcoming DELILAH
being prime examples. He looks for the best from all his collaborators
and offers the same amount of effort himself. But what's really amazing
about him is that he manages to meld a real sense of vision with a
used-car salesman's resourcefulness to GET THE PROJECT DONE -- much
like Fincher, I would think. But as to the "mainstream" of porn companies
"getting it" -- I doubt they ever will.
I refer you to mainstream film, where the indie film industry sprung
up in answer to Hollywood's steadfast refusal in the last 20 years
to manufacture much of anything besides simple-minded, escapist entertainment.
My point is that just because there isn't a place in the system for
what you want to do, that doesn't mean it's impossible to accomplish
it. If you're here to be universally loved and accepted as a savior
of intelligent porn, you're doomed. If you're here because you have
a vision that you absolutely believe is valid and needs to be fulfilled,
then get to work and don't be discouraged by anyone who is threatened
by your vision and wants to drag you down to their level to feed their
own ego. To paraphrase Jesus, "The punters will always be with us."