Biff aka Chris Alexander returned from Budapest at the end of 1995 with 21 sex scenes for his World Sex Tour. Malibu says the Hungarian capitol is loaded with pretty women and "they all do anal and double penetration."

Biff owns Anabolic Video. He started it with help from his girlfriend Trixie Tyler but the company truly took off when Biff traded in Trixy for Suzanne Alexander aka Muffy Malibu.

In its 9/97 issue, AVN details a celebrated June brawl between Biff and Buffy Malibu versus Tammi Ann. Jeff Steward, general manager of Legend, told AVN: "Buffy poured the drink on Tammi… Tammi said 'You don't have to be a bitch about it.' She grabbed the beer bottle out of my hand and threw it at Buffy, and proceeded to clear the entire table of all the bottles and glasses. Buffy might have grabbed a few of the drinks too… There was sh-t flying everywhere, so I ducked… Greg had Tammi on the ground by the neck, and the two girls were pulling each other's hair…"

The next day at the VSDA show, the Malibus carried around a blonde clump of hair that Buffy had purportedly ripped out of Tammi's head.

Anabolic's Rough Sex Goes Too Far

Ridley99@aol.com writes on RAME: "Rough Sex 2 " and every-RAMERs responcibility to speak out when they feel something has gone too far. The adult movie bussiness must be held accountable to the product it sells. Women should not be physically and emotional abused. The argument that any Censorship is dangerous and if you don't like it don't buy it, does not float here.

What is depicted in Rough Sex 2 is wrong, it is also irresponcible and dangerous both to the porn industry and the actresses involved. Self censorship is the only thing that works, or has the porn world become a lawless entity where anything goes as long as nobody gets hurt and people make f-ckin money.If the porn world can not police its own house it is a certainty that its house will be policed for it. 8 years under the administration of the " first Rain-coater" is coming to an end. There will be no Oval office Blow Jobs in the Gore whitehouse. And we all know Tipper Gore is a fierce reactionary. Movies Like Rough Sex are an almost perfect weapon for anti-porn activists. First of all its boxcover is a perfect bill board for Dworkin and her she bitches to rally around. Also magazine shows like" 60 minutes" or 20/20 can show women getting slapped in the face or choked, something they couldn't do with videos in which penetration is the main selling point. Do not assume the courts will leave the Porn Industry alone forever,this is foolish and Naive. I will give you an example :

I live in New York. New York was once the world capital of sleaze. If you wanted it , no matter what it was, it could be found on 42nd street as well as the 8th ave district where Show World ( sigh ) held court. Show World had it all : live sex acts, guys f-cking girls on stage, women getting it on with each other, porn stars performing dildo shows asnd getting freaky with the audience, etc,etc. Along comes Mayor Rudy Guiliani, in his first term he broke 42nd street, raising the rents so high the porn shops had to flee but it was in his second term that he really went commando. He wrote laws that just about out lawed any kind of sex scene in NYC. And it just about happened overnight. Strip clubs were padlocked,stores that sold Porn tapes shut down. Do you know what Show World is today? A f-ckin souverneir shop that sells I love NY Tee- Shirts .Brothers, I am telling you the courts can do anything they want. The courts could shut down the sex Biz in one day, if they wanted too. And if you don't think the LAPD would get their kicks shuting down porno sets ,then you just are not aware.

Under the first" Rain-coater" things have been quiet, great, porn is more diversified and bigger then ever, so why shouldn't we let sleeping dogs lie and police are own house. Its not so much Rough Sex 2 that scares me as much as the thought of Rough Sex 6, I mean really where does Ananbolic go with this idea, Anabolic has chosen the hard rough sex angle with all its videos and this is dangerous. Other videos can sell product with a new pretty face such as Tara Patrick or Anastasia Blue, Ananbolic is under different rules, it can only sell videos by ever increasing the shock value of its product. It started with DPs, then Gang Bangs, the Gangbangs become rougher, ass-licking was added, spitting, hair-pulling, verbal Abuse and now the ultimate: real slapping and choking. So where do they go from here. Another problem is the Talent, sure right now they probably have some sick girls who enjoy this type of treatment, but porn is voracious, it demands new girls, sooner or later girls who do not like this treatment will be " forced" into the part of punching bags. It is wise for Ananabolic to cut this series now, since Anabolic only cares about profit I feel it is up to every Ramer with a conscious to let them know how they feel. I for one am an intelligent human being and I do not enjoy seeing women Physically and emoptionally abused.

Sin City star Linda Thoren writes on RAME: I agree. My x-boyfriend Tomas Edberg interviewed Jewel Valmont last week in LA for the European magazine Cats. On the question, if it was anything she regrets in her carrier, she said that, doing this scene for Anabolic in Raw Sex #1, is the only thing she would like to be undone. She was even forced to do things she had clearly said she didn't want to do. (in Europe we call these things rape...) I fear that Anabolic -- if they continue doing these kind of scenes -- jeopardize the whole future of the Biz.

Brandy Alexandre writes: An interesting thing to think about would be how porn legality was won. In the Freeman decision, the victory centered around the performers being actors for whom the graphic depiction of sex was an integral part of their role. Now that the industry has turned predominantly to Gonzo--tapes that is nothing but a collection of staged sexual encounters--I wonder if the utter lack of any attempt at plot, story, and acting is going to shed a whole new light on what is and is not prostitution vs a porn performance that was produced during the Freeman era.

The prosecution was based on a definition of prostitution and pandering that relied on the hiring of women for personal sexual gratification, that was defended by the fact that porn hired men and women to "work" with each other to produce a teleplay. But now toss into the mix these little producers who are, themselves, paying women to perform sex acts with them attempting to wedge themselves under the same protective umbrella (I'm just playing devil's advocate) under the guise of producing a teleplay that obviously isn't by the lack of any script, story, plot or acting. Doesn't this, then, create a gentle breeze that will tumble the house of cards the industry has built over the last couple of years? All it's going to take is one tape that someone finally says is seriously offensive obscene, that doesn't have the protective elements from Freeman, and that will be end of that.

Some producers would be hard pressed to come up with stories that repeatedly required the serious abuse of women who clearly didn't know what they were getting into.

Chaim Amalek writes: Luke, Ridley is correct in his warning to porners. And for that very reason, those who oppose commercial porn should cheer on the Max Hardcores of the world as they spread gasoline all over their industry. On the other hand, if you happen to like porn and feel a need for it, then the coming changes do not auger well for you.

First, a few basic facts. Most Americans, even most of those Americans who, from time to time, view porn, do not care much for the industry itself, and they specifically do not care for the men who have made their fortunes on the gaping orifices and saliva and semen covered faces of the young, fundamentally dumb women who are its backbone. Moreover, they would care a whole lot less if it were brought to their attention just what sort of pornography is being made these days. That it is not generally known just how abusive some of this stuff has become is due in part to the lack of a prominent politician with the smarts to see just how much political hay could be made of this. All that is needed is for someone of Giuliani's stature to take on the California-based porn industry, targeting the most egregious of its exponents for the initial attack, and you will see both conservatives and liberal feminists joining forces as never before to "regulate", if not entirely shut down, this industry.

Oh, I know what you social liberals are thinking. You expect the first amendment to cover your behinds. Listen up - we live in an age in which even basic political speech can be anathematized as "hate speech" and, even worse, medicalized as indicia of insanity in need of psychiatric treatment. (Just think about what has happened to John Rocker.) Do you really think that you will be able to hide behind the first amendment (the first and last refuge of all scoundrels in this country) forever? Do you think that a smart national politician like a Senator Rudy Giuliani would be incapable of drafting meaningful, hard-hitting legislative attacks on the porn industry that it cannot evade? Consider his success in shutting down most of the commercial sex industry in hyper-liberal New York City, using nothing more elaborate than the zoning laws, and think again.

Cultural liberal elites have benefited in recent years from having as president a man who is a wannabe of theirs, and from the general stupidity of republican politicians who might otherwise have used this against him. As soon as a smart politician comes along who appreciates just how revolting many porners are both as human beings and in what they do to young women to make money, things will start to change very, very quickly in this country. So, the bottom line is this. If you hate the porn industry, support the "Max Hardcores" of the world and help rub America's nose in their work.

PS If anyone wants to get the ball rolling, he should contact Don Hewitt of 60 Minutes, Jerry Rivers (Rivera), or some younger, hungrier journalist with some of the particulars. As Ridley has noted, the story of the rise of blatently misogynistic porn would be a very, very easy story to tell on television, and certainly would garner very high ratings.

(And Luke, if you really were a journalist with ambitions beyond coveering the world of masturbatorial video, you would be contacting big media in New York yourself (LA's media are too whore-like and intellectually weak for this purpose), and push them to run with this story.)

Al writes: Hey Luke! I love your site man ! I just came from the anabolic web site ,and I saw that Gangbang girl #20 was no longer for sale. Knowing full well that some porners would sell their own mothers , I have to ask. What gives? Do you know?

The director of Anabolic's controversial series "Kahn Tusion" writes on the rec.arts.movies.erotica (RAME) newsgroup:

Until Linda Thoren’s post, I had refrained from entering the debate concerning my video series, Rough Sex. However, after reading Thoren’s thinly veiled accusation of rape, I feel it is incumbent upon me to respond with the facts concerning Jewel Valmont and Rough Sex in general.

Please note, that both proponents and detractors of the line have generally been wise enough to understand that all the participants are consenting and engaging in consensual behavior. However, that is half the story. The other half is this: I will not shoot anyone that is merely consenting, they must demonstrate desire. That’s right, I could shoot dozens of ladies that would do this series for the money. That’s not good enough for me. They must want to engage in rough sex and I must be convinced they will derive extreme pleasure from doing so. On a rare occasion, I am fooled by a participant’s bonafides. When that happens, I (usually not the participant) immediately halt the scene, pay the appropriate kill fees and send everyone home. Under no circumstances am I interested in engaging in any coeriscon to illicit any type of behavior or sex act.

As far as the objectionable behavior in the Jewel Valmont scene (Rough Sex 1), these are the facts: Jewel did indeed request that we do not call her “sh-thole”. She did agree to wear a “sh-thole” collar and eat from a “sh-thole” bowl, but did not want to hear those words uttered to her. Unfortunately, one of the performers felt that this was a barrier that Jewel wanted to overcome. He demanded that she refer to herself as a “sh-thole” and she quickly responded. (After the scene, I profusely apologized to Jewel and I additionally rewarded her two fold; 1) for my indiscretion and 2) for an excellent scene. I continue to apologize to Jewel about this incident whenever I see her) As an interesting side note, following the “sh-thole” incident, Jewel (by her own admission) then experienced between 5 and 10 orgasms. We tried to count, but it was difficult as they were coming (no pun intended) fast and furious. Let’s call it a baker’s dozen!

Now, for all you RAMER’s to think that these women are choiceless and engage in Rough Sex to support a drug habit, or additional dependents, let me tell you about Jewel Valmont. She is drug and alcohol free, does not support dependents, to my knowledge, and most importantly she is one the most beautiful and desirable woman I know. She lives in a neighborhood that would be recognized the world over as one of the best neighborhoods in Southern California. She has an active social life outside of the business, and as far as I am concerned, she could choose any number of rewarding professions. She has chosen this one! She did not have to do Rough Sex, she wanted to do it. She orgasmed over it, and has discussed it with me on numerous occasions since its shooting.

You need more? I am happy to say, because of the courage and vision of Anabolic’s founder and president, Chris Alexander, I am inaugurating a new line at Anabolic (release date, some time in February). Who was the first person that I wanted to shoot? Jewel Valmont. She gave me an excellent scene and, as always, was a great pleasure to work with. I look forward to Linda Thoren’s appraisal of this coming series.

So my point is this, I have read with great interest all the hoopla over Rough Sex, and I can recognize that both sides make meritorious arguments. But, please try and refrain from slander. After all, even us misogynist / human pieces of vomit have feelings too. Luckily, Linda Thoren’s irresponsible charge immediately showed up on L-ke F-ord, thereby completely discounting it’s validity.

And lastly let me state, that unlike most people in this industry, I don’t use a variety of Internet outlets to level threats of lawsuits and demands of apologies. I just go on doing what I do. With that said, I don’t harbor any ill feelings toward Linda Thoren, as a matter of fact, I would love to shoot her in Rough Sex 3. To describe what occurred, as rape is an egregious misrepresentation of the facts. A more appropriate word that now applies might be “witch hunt.”

Diablo1504: Luke how do comments like that make you feel? And how does Kahn feel about his own comments being there?

Luke: Diablo, I expect hatred for my writing and sloppy site, so I take it in stride.

Luke: America's largest one-stop distributor, GVA West, has refused to carry the Rough Sex series. GVA West owner David Sturman has reportedly said, "We make love, not war." This decision will put a strong damper on sales. When GVA speaks, porners usually listen. A few years ago, GVA demanded that Jon Dough redo a boxcover because he put on it an uncomplimentary reference to a Jew.

Emmett writes: Jewel Vermont is a sexy and strange woman. She did not object to wearing a "sh-t-hole" collar or eating from a "sh-t bowel", but object to being a called a "sh-t-hole"? You are what you eat right. Just joking, but seriously how could she object to being called a name? It seems to me she would hate wearing a collar and eating from a sh-t bowel more then being called one. I guess someone use to call her sh-tty when she was younger and she couldn't stand it. But in the film she seem to like and respond to it. Weird.... Mr. Ford you should call her up and ask her, "What's up?"

I think everyone is talking about Rough Sex because... 1. They hated to see their favorite porn star being roughed up. Who wants to see hot stars such as Monique DeMoan and Mia Smiles getting treated like a Chinese Cockroach? No one. I guess when this S & M reached porn major players, everyone wants to say something. Just like everyone was talking about "Basic Instinct" and "Eyes Wide Shut". Their were worst dirty scenes in other regular movies then those two, but because it included Hollywood's best, people started raising hell.

2. It happened to white women. This stuff happened in black videos and no one said sh-t about! Beside women like Mila and Aspen Brock were treated like trailer trash in the "White Trash Whore" series. And S & M videos has been out for decades, why is everyone trying to nominate Rough Sex as the worst S & M movie in America. From what I read in magazines and seen documentaries, their has been worse material then Rough Sex.

3. Their just jealous that Rough Sex received an AVN award and they didn't. End of Story!

SethJ writes on RAME: How much further is this going to go, and how long before conservative forces step in? NOTHING is a given in this society. We're here living in the umpteenth year of the billions-wasting "War On Drugs" year where almost every cop, judge, and lawmaker believes they should just legalize the sh-t, but no one has the guts to speak out on it. Despite what we might feel, this society still has a conservative streak a mile wide. What has been said about Rudy in NY is also true in numerous smaller municipalities nationwide.

Believe me, it won't take much to get a crusade going, whether it be grass roots or political. Look at Columbine; now filmakers will be checking themselves every time they film a scene that might be "disturbing." And that's not necessarily a bad thing--I told another poster that self-checking is what generally keeps the government off your back.

I'm sure a lot of guys like 'Rough Sex' but it's exactly the sort of thing that can land on congressional radar. Also, what are most people saying is most important to them this election? "Values", a nebulous thing to be sure, but since it is so vague, that means you go after the most obvious things, meaning of course, porn. A common argument is that "everybody has their own thing". Fair Enough. From straight sex to "crushing", everybody's got something they love that seems out there to someone else. True. What's being forgotten though is that not everything that "floats your boat" is LEGAL.

Child porn is just "something some guys like" right? And guess what; they're doing 20-30 years for it. Many feel that they would love to see the legal age lowered to say, 16. (hell, how many guys get prosecuted for getting a 13 or 14 year old pregnant?)

And what does this say about a viewer? And what about where it stops? Do we start getting into wrestling-style fake blood next? Out and out violence against women without the sex even? I understand that videos like these were made in Serb rape camps during the Bosnian War. Is that what's next here? IMHO, there's a pretty fine line twixt sex and violence. If the chick is in any way portraying that it's forced sex, it's violence (IMHO. and yes I said portrayal, doesn't matter real or not to me). I think I can safely say no one here wants to be accused of being a front for the Christian Coalition, but the fact is, we have all limits on things we're allowed to do, whether self-imposed or external, and something like RS simply goes against those sensibilities.

1/30/00

Luke: Fresh from a whipping at the hands of Tina Tyler, I interviewed "Rough Sex" director "Kahn Tusion" Sunday night by phone. As his email to RAME showed last week, he's intelligent and well able to verbally defend himself. Kahn Tusion entered porn around 1992, and has worked principally for Annabolic.

Kahn: "You know my disposition over what I am about to undertake."

Tusion, like many porners, was wary of talking to me. I'm usually nicest when talking to first timers, because I want to get our possible relationship off to a good start. Once you get to know someone, you learn how much you can stretch them.

This, however, is not the first time "Kahn Tusion" and I have crossed paths though I do not remember the first time. Suffice to say, Kahn is not favorably disposed towards me, and regards me as an "anti-porn activist."

Kahn: "Both our reputations precede us. I hope that I am able to surprise you positively and I hope also to be surprised. I don't know if that will happen, but if it does, it will restore an inkling of my faith."

Luke: "Cool. Has the furor over Rough Sex surprised you?"

Kahn: "Yes it has. And it is absolutely preposterous. The criticism from the RAMERs is not unexpected and I consider it valid. I think that many of the people are fearful that this might inhibit their ability to purchase or view pornography. And I can understand that fear. And the others are First Amendment honchos, and that is also a valid argument.

"The criticism from within the industry is absolutely shocking. It is so hypocritical that I am getting vertigo. It is pathetic."

Luke: "People in the industry are scared that you are the perfect fodder for anti-porn activists, therefore you endanger the way they make a living."

Kahn: "Are you an anti-porn activist?"

Luke: "No, but I am no booster of the porn industry."

Kahn: "I consider you an anti-porn activist. And I don't begrudge you one bit for it. As a matter of fact, I think it is a noble position to take. I really do. And for those people in the industry who feel that this specific movie is going to bring a pox on their house, it is ridiculous. If this movie did not exist, there are probably six to seven thousand of the eight thousand videos put out annually that are offensive and horrifying to 90% of people in America. The ten percent who do not believe they are horrifying, 90% of those people would never admit it. The reason that there is peace and tranquility in the production of pornography is that there has been a sleeping spell with the powers that eventually might attempt to eradicate it. For them to blame me is ridiculous.

"The criticisms from outside the industry are more meritorious. Because they're not manufacturing it. They're just viewing it and they're fearful for their viewing habits.

"In addition to the public criticisms that we've read on your site and on Gene Ross's site, there are some private criticisms that I've heard that I am certain are going to be made public soon. Let me give you an example. Patrick Collins [owner of Elegant Angel Video] believes that this is a horrible horrible thing and that we are terrible people over at Anabolic. This is the same gentleman who takes our titles and knocks them off practically verbatim. For instance, his Gang Bang Angels [taken from Anabolic's Gang Bang Girl line]. He believes that that is going to be acceptable to some type of municipality or state or federal government that doesn't care for pornography? He's dreaming. It's not going to happen. When the giant awakes, we're all going to be swatted. I might be swatted first, but we're all going."

Luke: "How much private reaction have you had?"

Kahn: "Horrible. Terrible. It's so hypocritical... People in the industry are extremely critical. And I believe that the basis of that criticism is two fold. One, it's based on economic jealousy. Anabolic is measurably more successful than the other companies. So consequently we make a fine target. For Rodney Moore to criticize us. He thinks this is degrading to women.

"And by the way, I do believe that this is terrible and degrading to women. I also believe that squirting half a quart of semen on to a girl's face and having her walk down Ventura Blvd has a degree of degradation. Degradation drives the business. And I think that you know that. That is why you are who you are. You understand that's what drives the business and so here we all are. In the degradation business unfortunately."

Luke: "What numbers are you selling of Rough Sex?"

Kahn: "They are astounding... There's not a porno company in the world that wouldn't flip over the numbers."

Luke: "I heard that GVA West won't handle it. How about other branches of GVA [porn's largest distributor]?"

Kahn: "There have been some companies that have refused to handle it. I don't begrudge them. It's free enterprise.

"Anabolic's success is due to their impeccable desire for quality. The founder Chris insists on certain things, like excellent production values, a certain quality performer... I think this [Rough Sex] is a step further than they've gone. And that's because I've directed it. It is something that I have experience in and it is something that I am familiar with.

"I've been reading the criticism. I've read Rebecca Bardoux's criticism that this is terrible and people go to jail for this. This is a lifestyle, Luke. There are people that participate in this. They get pleasure from it. I have simply documented it. That's all. Nothing more... Now they're going to try to make some big deal that we do something terrible to the girls, by bringing Regan Starr to the forefront.

"That charge can only be described as adolescent buffoonery. We have a videotape of what occurred. She claims that she had the sh-t knocked out of her. We have a videotape that disputes that. She claimed that this went on and on and on.

"I made an error with Regan Starr. I did not want to shoot her. She insisted to me that this was her lifestyle. She insisted to me that she enjoyed it. And she insisted to me that she did this at home. On the telephone, I was fooled 100%. The day of the shoot, when I met her, I made a judgement that I did not want to do the shoot. She implored me to go forward and against my better judgement, we did. And we only shot for six minutes. Two minutes and thirty seconds of which the action was centered on her. And then we cut the scene.

"And for people to say, 'Oh, you're forcing girls to do this.' That's ridiculous. And somewhere, somehow the accurate story will come out. There was the charge earlier brought by Linda Thoren that certain things happened that are termed rape."

Linda Thoren wrote: "My x-boyfriend Tomas Edberg interviewed Jewel Valmont last week in LA for the European magazine Cats. On the question, if it was anything she regrets in her carrier, she said that, doing this scene for Anabolic in Raw Sex #1, is the only thing she would like to be undone. She was even forced to do things she had clearly said she didn't want to do. (in Europe we call these things rape...) I fear that Anabolic -- if they continue doing these kind of scenes -- jeopardize the whole future of the Biz."

Kahn: "Well, the victim of that so-called rape has already disputed Linda Thoren's account of it and has continued to work for me subsequent to that and will work for me again.

"I don't know what you and Gene Ross do. I'm a big First Amendment guy. I respect the fact that you can print anything you want. Yet when someone like Linda Thoren writes that, it is incumbent on you or Gene to say, 'What about the fact that the girl was disputing your charges? Do you want to elaborate? Do you want to stand by it?' It's dangerous stuff and you've admitted that you've been hurtful to people in the past for this exact kind of thing. And I believe that if you could do it over again you might undo a few of the things that you have done."

Luke: "True."

Kahn: "It is frustrating. And I believe that most of the criticism is because of the origin of the tape - Anabolic Video."

Luke: "So if Elegant Angel released this tape, there would not be as much criticism?"

Kahn: "They're doing it now. I went into the store... First, I'm a fan and I rent videos. And second, I went in to peruse the competition. And I see Elegant Angel's knockoff Gangbang [Angels]... Considering Patrick's recent history, I'm sure the movie was directed by either his gardener, or by his maid's boyfriend. And the big hook on the movie is 'Shot in a real frat house.' I guess that makes the sex better.

"So I turn over the box and see an interesting thing. It's starring a woman named Miko Lee. And they gleefully write on the back of the box 'She likes it rough.' And they show a picture of Mr. Marcus choking her, with a grimace on her face. I haven't seen the movie so I can't say what exactly is taking place. But I know Mr. Marcus. He's a friend of mine. I have an idea what took place but I didn't want to bother renting it... After criticizing us, they're inmitating us."

Luke: "Where do you want to go with this series?"

Kahn: "I wrote in response to Linda Thoren: 'Even us misogynist / human pieces of vomit have feelings too.' Frankly, considering what is going on, I'm going to rethink it and take a break. I've spoken to Chris at Anabolic and I'm going to at best, put this on long hiatus and at worse, I might do something else."

Luke: "Is porn your fulltime gig?"

Kahn: "No."

Mike South writes: "Some [porn] chick will file criminal assault charges and sue the ass off of Anabolic."

Rebecca Bardoux writes: Luke, What has happen to this so called porn industry? I remember when we watched each others backs, when we respected ourselves because no one else did. When there was quality people infront and behind the camera. When innocent people went to jail, and we had to watch everything we did on tape, so not to get the distributor in trouble. I remember when shooting a Caught from Behind Installment Ron Jeremy was not allow to watch three girls together in the video without letting us know, because of the so called law. No objects that where not made for sexual use where allow to be inserted. I recall trying to present a positive products to the consumer, after all weather you believe it or not we are educating the public about sex. So I wonder how these people will feel when their daughter comes home one day after having the sh-t beat out of her all in the name of sex that they saw on a porno tape, or when she is found dead. If any of you remember at the 99 AVN Awards the speech that Larry Flynt gave. Someone needs to press charges against these people and any girl that would allow a man to beat her up that badly should search professional help for her own good.

I have become disgusted with this industry, which for me is very sad, for years I have stud up for this industry trying to get respect and let people see that alot of us are very wonderful people. Luke, what do we do this industry has become the scum of the earth. I thought I would never say this but maybe it's time to shut it down for the well-being of people that watch it. I'm also thinking that someone needs to go to the authorities and express this concern. It's getting like the hip hop industry where they are killing their own and loving it. I pray everyday that someone will stop this, but everyday I hear more sh-t. Are these people stupid enough to believe that minor that are very impressionable are not watching these movies and thinking that is proper behavior? Do any of them read a newspaper and see all the minors doing so much damage because they saw it done in TV, movies etc. If it means turning our own people in maybe that's the answer. This behavior is just wrong weather you get away with it or not. There are men in jail for behaving this way, why is it ok for the industry?

Emmett writes: Dear Ms Bordeaux,

Even though I did not live during the sixties and practically the seventies as well, I agree and empathize with you. During the early days of Ron Jeremy, people fought for their freedom of expression and it had meaning. Almost parallel to the issues of Afro-Americans around that time. People fought what they believed for and suffered to make what is now legal today. And this new generation, labeled X, (my generation) is just f-cking everything up that our parents fought and suffered for. I empathize how you feel. I would have loved to had live during those time when people f-cked and enjoyed themselves without worrying about the next day (Is that why porno was alledgely so high in drugs and booze like I saw in the classic Boogie Nights?). Today killer viruses (HIV, AIDS, Hepatitis C, etc.) is wrecking porn, as well as the constant fighting (verbally and physically). At least you can carry the memories like Ron Jeremy does about the good old days.

Greg Zeboray, insurance agent at zeboray.com, writes: "I've been trying to stay off the internet, but Rebecca Bardoux's letter deserves a comment: Rebecca, is - in many cases - right on the money with her comments. The business today is 180 degrees opposite of where it was 4 or 5 years ago. My perception of the problem is overabundance. Today there are way too many shooters and way too many performers, and very few of them are making any money. This has resulted in producers pushing the envelope further and further in the hopes of generating revenue, and talent working for less while doing more just to get work. Rebecca, you know what the talent are earning today and what is expected of them, and you know how bad it really is.

"Will this problem solve itself? I don't believe it will. In today's climate new shooters pop up everyday, and the line of girls wanting into porn is growing by the day. The only solution I can see is if and when talent organize themselves. The talent need to set the guidelines of what is and is not acceptable, and what is a minimum fee they will work for. By doing this, the non-profitable producers will be forced to go away leaving the strong to survive and flourish. Same will apply to talent: those who work hard and hustle will survive, and those who sleep all day waiting for the phone to ring will go without work. Believe me when I say I don't like to see anyone fail, but a few failures sure beats the whole industry going away!

"I will close with this: In my opinion, things are going to get far worse before they get better, and the only group capable of turning the tide is the talent themselves. Hopefully in the near future they will recognize this and do something about it. They are the most powerful group in porn - they've just never been told of their power."

Fred Flinstone writes: "So Mr. Zeboray thinks that the talent should organize. I can't imagine a group of people less likely to form a union. Perhaps my thinking is tainted by reliance on an unjustified stereotype, but these are people who do what they do precisely because they lack initiative.

"Can you imagine all of the members of the Adult Screen Actor's Guild protesting outside of the Anabolic headquarters holding signs saying "Anabolic Guilty of Unfair Labor Practices"? Can you imagine needing to get a union card to act in a dirty movie? Should it be called the Adult Screen Actor's Guild? Perhaps the International Brotherhood (Sisterhood? Personhood?) of Erotic Entertainers? The mind boggles at the possibilites.

"Luke--here's a new calling for you. You can become the Ceasar Chavez of porn! You can travel the length and width of the San Fernando valley (it's a hell of a lot easier than the San Juaquin Valley, and the weather is a lot better), handing out leaflets and organizing rallies. Demand that all of the major studios (Vivid, VCA, Anabolic, etc.) sign contracts with your union. You can demand an NLRB (National Labor Relations Board) election. Actors and Actresses of the Valley, unite! You have nothing to lose but your chains!

"Wow--you'll be remembered as another John L. Lewis or Samuel Gompers (or Jimmy Hoffa?)! Hey--it can't be any tougher than being an Internet Journalist, can it? (Actually, all kidding aside, I seem to recall that strippers in San Francisco have been either trying to organize a union, or have organized a union. What's the status of that?)"

NJG replies: "Fred, who lives in San Jose, is completely unaware that the dancers in San Francisco are organized. The Mitchell Brothers, New Century, Lusty Lady, etc. are all unionized. And, yes Fred, there is a lot more organizing being done here. You have to think that the conditions are so bad that people are organizing. That is what is done throughout history Fred. People working in porn are workers, and like workers throughout history, they organize for better working conditions and wages. There are places on-line such as the exotic dancers alliance. When women who do gangbang/bukkake videos make a paltry $250, I say it's time for a union."

Mad Jack writes Emmett: "Dude: What grade are you in, and does mommy still pack your lunch for you??? I've been reading your lame comments for quite awhile and I'm sure that everyday you THANK GOD that Luke will print pretty much ANYTHING from ANYONE...I'm sure when you're not online you're busy spanking it to our movies and wishing that you could actually be a part of OUR world...But it's comments like those you made about Gina Rider's ex that make REAL industry people remember why we have OUR OWN functions, not usually open to the general public.....Glad you found your public forum, but spare us the childish, sexist comments."

Kianna Bradley, a Metro contract girl, writes: I must comment about the Rough Sex video line by Anabolic. That if you don't like it, don't watch it!!!!! , Yes something different. People fear what they don't understand. I am on the cover of Rough sex 2 and I happen to enjoy rough sex if I am in the mood. As for Anabolic not informing the female talent about the intensity and the female degradation, it is bullsh-t! it took four days for them to hire me. They made me fully aware of what the scene would consist of. They even gave me the first "rough sex" video to have me watch so there would be no misunderstanding. After the fact, I must say watching the video was much more intimidating than doing the actual scene. During the filming of the scene, the director and producer were asking if I was all right and if I wanted to continue. At no time did I have the feeling that I was being pressured to keep going on with the scene or what they expected next. Everything in the video was real I did drink piss and cum out of a wine glass. All I am trying to say is that I am sure that all the female talent was made aware of what was going to happen in the scene. Anabolic, in my opinion is one of the more up front, honest and giving companies I have ever worked for. (well, besides METRO. hehe.) Love, Kianna

P.s. Why can't we all just get along. I hope that anabolic keeps making the videos and if I was not signed with Metro I would do it again.

Emmett writes: "Dear Kianna Bradley, Try not to get too soaking pissed, but are you kissing Anabolic's ass for money? Not many women enjoy getting the sh-t beat out of them and then get f-cked silly as a bonus for putting up with the abuse. So this only leads to three things.... you actually do like getting abused, Anabolic is paying you under the table to have you say good sh-t about them, or your just saying all this bullsh-t because the pay was good and you want Anabolic to re-use you again in their other films. I say the last two sound dead on the money. Sadly enough if the last two are true you would certainly not reveal it to the public until you are done with porn. I guess we have long time to wait to hear the real truth to why you are backing Anabolic and Tushin."

Kianna Bradley replies to Emmett: "O.k now I can't understand such simple minded people like Mr. Emmett. Why is it so hard to believe that someone actually likes Rough sex? I do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was not by any means raped!!!!!!! I did what i enjoy, and you can ask also my former husband(Earl Slate) if that is not true. No he is not a women abuser by any means, but he enjoyed satisfying me, and I apologize to Mr. Emmett if he is not, nor ever could be, secure in his self or have the women( or man) he loved, and loved, him feel safe enough to trust him with something that sexual and intence. Anabolic is NOT promoting rape, for gods sake people What is S and M ??????????????

"I give Anabolic props for having The guts to do something people are afraid of.No one had to do it. ( PERIOD) I dont give a damn what everyone wants to believe, because opinions are like assholes we all have one!!!!! And Mr Emmett as far as the money, well Metro pays me good enough, and as far as the trying to get more jobs with Anabolic, I'm signed Exclusivly with Metro!!!! So I guess now all you have left to belive is I enjoy being abused? I guess so. If that is what you choose to believe than so be it. But you know what? I wouldn't have done it if I didn't want to!! and by the way I enjoyed the hell out of it!!!!!!!!!!!!! So I have problems you say? DON"T WE ALL?????????? I have alot of respect for Chris, Greg, and Khan,it would not be selling if there was not a market now would it? And as far as the women go that think it is so wrong, Anabolic is not asking you to do the movie!!!! It was all very very safe and handled very professionally!! OOpps am i kissing ass again? well you know I have licked ass, sucked ass, drank piss, and probably done alot more than that, so WHATEVER!!!!!!!! Thanks again for listening Luke peace out MUCH MUCH LOVE KIANNA BRADLEY"

Luke: The director of Rough Sex uses the name "Kahn Tusion." A tusion mean: "An injury in which the skin is not broken; a bruise."

Kahn Tusion is not Biff Malibu aka Christopher Alexandre, owner of Anabolic.

Regan Starr told about Rough Sex: "This was absolutely real. I could not finish this scene. It was absolutely terrible. It was an atrocity. This is the worst line ever put out there. It's right up there with snuff videos.

"Mickey was not being false about it. He was hurting the girls. He was given the green light to hurt the women for the effect of the video. I was told before the video that, and they said this very proudly, mind you, Mark and Christopher made it aware to me that in this line most of the girls start crying because they're hurting so bad.

"When they started the video, I was absolutely amazed that they were literally trying to hurt me and make me cry. I started crying. I couldn't breathe. I was being hit and choked. I was really upset, and they didn't stop. They kept filming. You can hear me say turn the f-cking camera off and they kept going." (From )

Jim Gunn plans to outdo Rough Sex. He writes on PST: "And I am putting my $ where my mouth is since I have a movie in pre-production that takes their idea one step further- very non-politically correct.

"The reality is this poses a real threat to the biz. But on principal you have to support them."

Mike South: "I agree with all that but the facts are I may be made to pay for THEIR transgressions and it is not settling well with me."

2/1/00

Roger Pipe Interviews Rough Sex Director

Roger Pipe (RP) of www.rogreviews.com: I'm are here at the Anabolic offices with director Kahn Tusion. We are going to start by discussing a new line that you have coming out.

Kahn Tusion (KT): This is a line that has been on the books for about two months. The release date on the first one is either February 7th or February 15th. It's call 'Oral Consumption' and is an all oral line. It will compete, and I hope that the word compete is not appropriate because compete means that there are actually equal competitors on the field, with the other blowjob tapes out there, Dr. Fellatio, Cocksmokers and the like. But, we have done something different. Chris has an enormous amount of vision and courage and has allowed me to pursue something that I think is missing in pornography and that is shooting real sex. I would say that ninety eight percent of things that you view are fine, but not real. The interviews are staged, the scenarios are staged and that doesn't appeal to me personally. I have directed a line that I believe will appeal to segment that is really interested in the heart and soul of the ladies that we are all jerking off to.

RP: Why did you decide to make your new line an oral line as opposed to a straight sex or gonzo line?

KT: First of all there is a lot of verbalization in the line and it takes place during the sex. Frankly, an oral line acclimates itself to that. I am holding the camera and I am literally face to face with the young ladies so I can ask her questions and make certain inquisitions. The questions aren't like 'what's your sign' or 'what's your favorite color.' Some of them are quite odd and at inappropriate moments. What they are there for is to elicit a real response so you can see a real person. I wasn't interested in doing that during a sex line because there is too much going on. In the oral line, whether the young lady is sucking cock, eating butthole or licking feet, I am right there in front of her and always able to communicate with her.

RP: Are we going to see you in this line, or are you staying strictly behind the camera?

KT: You will hear my voice, but you will not be able to see me. With this interview, you have the rare pleasure of seeing me in person. You can see that if I were to ever perform in front of the camera, it would probably diminish sales by eighty to ninety percent.

RP: I do keep waiting for the horns to pop out of your hat. (Kahn removes his baseball cap.) Contrary to popular belief, no horns. And no hair. I was going to make a joke about being late, that I was busy getting the horns filed down so as not to scare you off.

RP: Who are some of the stars in the first 'Oral Consumption?'

KT: I would love to shoot all fresh girls if I could, and did have the pleasure of shooting one young girl who has never done anything before. I shot some girls who you don't see very often. There are also a few well known names. Jewel Valmont, contrary to incredible rumor, is continuing to work with me. She might even say that she thinks I'm a bit of a cutie. You are going to see a nice mix. There are fourteen girls in every movie. Each scene will run between five and fifteen minutes each, but will average out at about ten minutes each. Most every scene will incorporate a multitude of popshots. There are a few singles, but a lot of doubles and triples. There are a few established stars, as I said. In the first one I would say Jewel Valmont is the most well known. There is a new girl named Kurious who is great in it. Kianna Bradley is another well known actress who is in it, as well as a slew of unknown talent. (www.rogreviews.com)

RP: I hear a few names there of people who have worked for you before, so they are coming back for more?

KT: Yes, some of them are coming back. It's the battered wife syndrome, they want to get away, but they just can't.

RP: Do you have any plans for a third series, or do you have your plate full with the existing two?

KT: Well, I guess you wanted a scoop, so I'm going to give you one. At this time, I am not shooting any scenes for 'Rough Sex 3.' As a matter of fact, to call it back burned would probably be the most flattering assessment of it right now. There is a reason for that. Specifically, until we can sort out how we are going to be able to convey to all of those people that purchase our product and those who don't purchase our product, that this is a legitimate enterprise, and hopefully this interview will help me do that, I am personally not interested in being flogged. I'm more interested in flogging women. So, consequently, right now I am not shooing Rough Sex scenes and frankly I don't know if that will ever happen. The new line I have coming up is a sex line. We don't have a title for it yet. It incorporates that which I am good at, and that is shooting, and I don't want to sound like a terrible person, but shooting women as objects. I am trying to convey that it is a segment of the pornography world that not only exists, but is quite popular. There is nothing wrong with it if the person on the receiving end, whether it be degradation or whatever, receives gratification from it. It's something that they practice in their everyday lives. We are going to shoot sex scenes that incorporate that and hopefully it will have as much impact as 'Rough Sex' did.

RP: I don't that anything has had as much impact as 'Rough Sex' recently. Was 'Rough Sex' the first thing you ever directed?

KT: I have been an assistant director for Chris at Anabolic for six or seven years. I had and idea for the first line. Actually, before we get into that, I'd like to show you some of the stuff from 'Oral Consumption.'

(We settle in at the editing monitors to watch a few scenes.)

I want you to be candid with me. This isn't going to be something that appeals to everyone. It is important to me to be interesting. I am a porn consumer, I've been watching porn for twenty five years. Ninety percent of it is banal. That's all there is to it. Someone mentioned to me that you're a bit of a porn hisotorian and as such, this will have some impact on you. Twenty years ago, for us to see a DP was earth shattering. I'm being very candid with you, you couldn't keep the semen contained in your ballsack. This girl was such a whore, my God, look at what she's doing. Now that's so commonplace that it no longer holds any interest. I am going to tell you what I believe the secret to my pornography and pornography in general is. I believe that in order to be exhilaratingly erotic, the woman has to exhibit some shame. It's become a shameless business. I get these girls and I say we want thirty five guys to f-ck you in the ass and she says fine and if you want to you can just back a truck up into my ass. There is no shame. I found a little shame and I believe that it's erotic.

(We sit down and watch the title sequence for 'Oral Copulation' which shows a mix of some of the verbal exchanges that will fill the movie, followed by a three guy scene with Kurious where she is probed at all the wrong times during her somewhat shameless display of dick, ass and toe sucking.)

KT: OK, what did you think?

RP: This is does not look like your average blowjob tape. It's very different.

KT: I appreciate you saying that.

RP: I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you were shooing for something different. Do you watch a lot of other blowjob tapes?

KT: Yes I do.

RP: Sum up what is missing from the others in one phrase.

KT: What we talked about earlier. Reality. Most of the blowjob tapes are products of expediency. They can shoot a girl blowing some guy right in the edit bay, shoot ten scenes and make a tape out of it. There is not thought in them. Why even have a girl? Why not have an anamatronic or a Pixar assimilated figure. These girls have no soul, but they do have soul if you pay attention to what you're doing. If you can draw that out, it becomes erotic. There are a few people who are actually good at it, but I don't want to mention their names because they have been bashing me so I don't want to compliment them.

(He then cues up a scene with a rather shy first timer.)

This is very interesting, the girl was there for the dough. She and her boyfriend figured as long as they are f-cking, they might as well do it for money. I'm shooting her and I ask her to masturbate. She said she can't do that in front of people. This is a girl who ate ass, for the first time in her life, took a money shot and I asked her if she would drink piss. She even agreed to do that for a couple hundred bucks. With all that, she won't masturbate in front of us. It was incredible and that is what pornography should be. The girl isn't that hot in the scene, but she was just incredible. It was wonderful. At least I think so. I'm my own biggest fan. I happen to think I'm a good f-cking pornographer. Now we can go to Bunny Luv. She is fabulous, completely unaffected until you work something out of her. (www.rogreviews.com)

(We watch a popshot with Bunny which somehow manages to, in fact, effect her.)

OK Rog, now you've had a taste, fire away.

RP: It's certainly unlike anything on the market.

KT: Good, that's what I want to do.

RP: There is a lot of dialog in this, like in your other work. You seem to be trying to open the girls up a bit.

KT: Exactly.

RP: Why do you think that's important?

KT: It's important to me personally because of what I've viewed in pornography over the last twenty five years. One of the things that has been missing for me in my personal jerk off experiences has been the identity and soul of the young ladies doing pornography. Let's be candid with each other, this is a shameful profession and that's what makes it erotic and unique. A lot of the porn that I see has lost sight of it. That's why I try to talk to them and draw them out. I let lots of things go and will ask a small and poinent question at an awkward time so that they are defenseless and you get an honest response. The reason I do it is because it gives me a hard on and hopefully it gives someone else a hard on as well.

RP: When will this tape be out?

KT: Early February.

RP: All right, we have to talk about 'Rough Sex' because everyone is. From the internet, to Geneross.com to Al Goldstein at the AVN Awards, you are the topic on everyone's tongue. Just so we start out with all our cards on the table, I have seen both 'Rough Sex' movies and reviewed number two this week. They are not my cup of tea at all, not even remotely close. I can appreciate that. In the review however, I did point out that your movies are well lit, well shot, with good looking performers and from what I have seen, they are better technically than anything of it's kind. So, while I certainly don't like the tapes, I give them credit for what they are. That's all I can ask for. The first person within the industry I heard take shots at you was Goldstein at the AVN Awards. Were you there or did you hear what he said?

KT: I am quite familiar with what he said.

RP: What are your thoughts?

KT: My honest appraisal is this. For some reason, 'Rough Sex' has garnered an unwarranted amount of attention and criticism. There are between three and eight thousand movies released each year and I'm pretty proud of my work, but it ain't that good. It's not the kind of movie that is just so exceptional or pathetically gross that it should warrant that sort of attention. I think two things have contributed to this attention. The first is that 'Rough Sex' was released by Anabolic, and there is an enormous amount of economic jealousy in the porno world. I think that Anabolic falls victim to most of it and there is a reason for that. The president and founder of Anabolic, Chris Alexander has two qualities that do not endear him to anyone in the porn business. He is brutally honest to a fault and will always tell the truth. Number two, he doesn't kiss anyone's ass. I have told him on numerous occasions that he needs to lie and kiss ass more and we won't have any problems. That's not his nature. That those are amazing attributes. I wish I had them, but I don't. I have been in a lot of different worlds in my life and have yet to find anyone with his level of morality. As odd as that might sound it happens to be the case. So, 'Rough Sex' has garnered this unwarranted attention because it was released by Anabolic and that's unfair for this simple reason. The number one criticism of this movie is that it is going to bring down a curse on the house of porno. That 'Rough Sex' will be the straw that breaks the camel's back, that 'Rough Sex' as a singular piece of work at a moment in time is the piece that galvanized all the anti-porn forces across the country and will destroy pornography as we know it is a pathetic assumption and evaluation of the reality. Will the house of porn come down? Maybe. Why would that be? Perhaps we'll have a new administration. Perhaps there will be a new Justice Department and perhaps that Justice Department is going to go after pornography. If it does, I can assure everyone that it's not because of 'Rough Sex'. Of the eight thousand tapes that are put out, I would say that ninety percent of the people in the United States of America would find those as abhorrent and objectionable. Of the ten percent that are jerk offs like myself, I would say that ninety percent of them would never admit it. There is not going to be any groundswell of support for pornography when someone comes after us. When they come after us, it's not going to be because of me, it's going to be because all of us. I don't want to talk about anyone specifically, but I'll mention one scenario. I have had some criticisms from another pornographer, someone that I happen to admire and his hook is for young girls to walk around on public streets, with their faces covered in semen. I happen to think that's terrific, but I can assure that those people who find 'Rough Sex' objectionable are certain to find that objectionable as well. It's just not fair.

RP: The same people who are criticizing you, are letting plenty of other potential lighting rods slip by. This year, we had performers stating that they are twelve years old in scenes. There were women with their heads shoved into ovens, Christ figures sodomized by priests, yet the critics let them slide. I may not understand B & D or find it sexually appealing, but it is a legitimate sexual lifestyle, but personally, I can't see how your movie can be so vile and appealing to pedophiles is all right. Does their hypocrisy make sense to you?

KT: It makes no sense for a number of reasons. The first reason is that what I am portraying in my movies is an absolutely legitimate lifestyle enjoyed in every corner of this country. I happen to know that because I have been living it for twenty five years. The critical issue here that people are missing is that I am not shooting in people who are just in it for the money. I want to shoot people who derive pleasure from it. Once in a while, I get fooled. You may have read my response on RAME, and I stand behind that. I have been fooled, but then I stop. I am not interested in hurting someone who doesn't derive pleasure from it or doesn't want it. I am not interested in degrading anyone who doesn't derive pleasure from it or doesn't want it. I have had a number of relationships in my life. Some of them have been S & M relationships and some of them have been intimate, fulfilling relationships that had no degradation, bondage or spanking at all because my partner wasn't into it. By me simply uttering this, it diminishes what I am and I hate to say it, but it's not as though we are monsters, we're just people. Those same people who are attacking me, to be candid with you, I don't think they go for gay porn either. How do they feel about guys getting bent over and plowed in some jail cell by thirteen other guys? It doesn't appeal to me in the slightest, but should I attack it? The answer is absolutely not because that's a lifestyle that these people have chosen. For people to throw stones around in this glass house borders on lunacy.

RP: Even with all the criticism, AVN did award 'Rough Sex 1' with a Best Specialty tape. Was that surprising to you?

KT: Shocking to me and very gratifying. It was shocking because I believe there exists a legitimate dispute of some kind between Anabolic and AVN. Anabolic has not won an award in a number of years. I don't care who you talk to, Anabolic produces, across the board, some of the highest quality pornography ever produced in the history of porno. Day in and day out, there tapes are superb. I'm not saying their tapes are always the best, though I happen to think so, but certainly in a span of five yeas, they have produced wonderful pieces of pornography that have not been acknowledged at the awards. So when I was nominated, I was thrilled because it allowed me to needle Vince Vouyer, but I didn't expect to win. When I did win, I was gratified. I think that the reason it happened was they found something that they couldn't ignore. It fit a host of criteria that they couldn't ignore. One, as you mentioned, and I appreciate that, it was high quality pornography. That is due to the Anabolic family. If I had to shoot this, it would be terrible. It's Chris and Mike John who light it and take care of the technical end. They are wonderful. Technically it was well done and it was different and on the edge. I think they just made the determination that they couldn't ignore it. I appreciate that and it's very gratifying.

RP: There are a number of people who say that 'Rough Sex' should start a wave of self censorship in the industry. You already told me you disagree with that, but is there anything that would make you say we shouldn't be doing this?

KT: Let me retract what I said a bit. I believe that both sides on this issue have made excellent cases. The First Amendment people are right when they say that censorship is a slippery slope. Those who believe in self policing are reminiscent of the gambler who wants to take his meager winnings off the table and go home, just to make sure he goes home a winner. Both arguments hold water. So, my response to you is yes, I believe that self censorship is a very effective method for holding off certain agencies who would seek to harm us. I will say this, if they are going to engage in self censorship, is 'Rough Sex' over the line. Yes. Is there anything else over the line? About four thousand videos a year. There are things going on right now that are way over the line. Certainly my competitors, Max Hardcore, Rob Black and some others are going down to, so here we are.

RP: Has anyone in the industry stood up for you and fought this backlash?

KT: Yeah, Chris at Anabolic and Jamie Gillis. (Chris Alexander has entered the room and has been listening quietly.)

CHRIS- And all the girls you've worked with.

KT: The girls certainly, with one exception. Interestingly enough, after 'Rough Sex 1' we stepped things up a notch for 'Rough Sex 2' and I had expressed some personal trepidation. The intensity was stepped up a notch and it made me nervous. Chris told me that Anabolic is what it is because we have always provided high quality and have always been bold. Anyone can sit on yesterday's news, but we need to continue to provide product that marketplace is going to accept because it is unique and on the edge.

CHRIS- I might add that the marketplace has not only accepted 'Rough Sex' but embraced it. As much as I want to resist complimenting Kahn too much for fear his head will get even bigger, he has done great things for us.

RP: There have been a few negative stories circling lately about the 'Rough Sex' movies. The first one involving Jewel Valmont and some lines that may or may not have been crossed. Any comment on that?

KT: Linda Thoren leveled am outrageous and irresponsible charge that has been refuted by Jewel herself. I could go on the net today and say that Roger Pipe couldn't keep it in his pants when he interviewed me. He was so attracted to me. Now you have to go onto the net and deny it, then call forth all of your witnesses. That's what's happening in the Jewel Valmont Case. Number one, we have the video tape, number two, she continues to work for me, number three, she's called Gene Ross to refute it all. It's pathetic. As I said in my response, I don't play the game of threatening lawsuits and demanding apologies. I like to continue to move forward, but speak categorically on a factual basis.

RP: So, the Jewel Valmont charge is pathetically absurd. What about Regan Starr?

KT: Regan Starr is a different issue. To use a famous quite, the three most horrible slanders there are lies, damn lies and statistics. The Regan Starr episode falls into the first two categories, Lies and Damn Lies. When you write this, try to get the emphasis in there. As I have said, I am not interested in shooting anyone here just for the money. I want to shoot women who derive pleasure. When Regan Starr was booked, I talked with her extensively on the phone. I took a verbal inventory with her, face spitting, face slapping, verbal degradation, spanking, choking, spanking to the point of bruising, and if there is, we would reward you accordingly. This said, the girls always control the scene and we can stop at any time. I asked her if that was acceptable to her. She assured me that she was. Something happened though. If there is going to be some culpability, I admit, and unfortunately I'm doing it on tape, if I am culpable of anything it is that I didn't believe my gut on this one. It's something I have always done and it's always served me well. Your first instinct is usually the right one. After this extensive interview with Regan, she convinced me she could do it. When she came to the set, I spoke with her for another fifteen minutes then went into Chris' office and told him I was going to call the scene. He asked me why. We had a lot of money tied up on the scene already. Don't get me wrong, I've blown a lot of money. When you look like me, you have to spend a lot of money to get laid. Now, I said I was going to call the scene. Chris and I went in with Regan. I told her that she couldn't do the scene. She sold me a bill of goods, assuring me that she could do it. I told her she was underestimating the emotional impact of the scene. The three people in that room left with the idea that we would attempt to get the scene shot.

CHRIS- At that time, he went ahead and agreed to a rate she would be paid if she couldn't finish the scene. She said "OK, but I'm going to do the scene."

KT: We shot the scene and it didn't last more than five minutes. She was spanked, degraded and went to pieces. We killed the scene, gave her three hundred. It cost us approximately two thousand dollars above that and I got nothing except for that little snippet I put in 'Rough Sex 2'. I only did that because I spend so much freaking money on it. There is some talk on the interent that she only received three hundred bucks. Well, she got three hundred bucks for being in front of the camera five minutes, being spanked approximately three times and having a thumb put in her mouth.

CHRIS- And having Mickey G deliver some lines that I don't even think were that harsh.

KT: Well, we didn't make her say f-ck my teenie bald pussy which she does gladly, but it was part of the line and I don't apologize for what it is.

RP: All right, the decision to leave that snippet in the movie certainly rubs her face in it.

KT: Yes.

RP: It certainly comes off as mean spirited.

KT: Yes.

RP: Why do it?

KT: I left it in because I want to shoot reality. It was a piece of reality and is a piece of the S and M world that some people never see. Frankly, I find it fascinating. It's in there for that reason. I have been with people where that happens, we reach a point when they have had enough and they break down. At that point, we immediately stopped. I know it's hard to believe, but I'm actually a gentleman. That's why I left it in and frankly I'm proud of it.

CHRIS- I wouldn't agree that it's mean spirited though. I think it is reality and left in as such. I don't want to sound harsh and I hope this doesn't get printed as harsh. You might think it's mean spirited and other people might see it that way, but I don't care. That's not my intent. My intent is to show reality and if people interpret it as mean spirited, there is nothing I can do about it. I stand behind my decision to leave it in the tape and I am proud of it.

RP: You would agree though that it has opened you up for more criticism.

KT: I didn't recognize that that would happen.

RP: In retrospect?

KT: In retrospect I would have bought Qualcom stock a year ago and made movies just for myself.

RP: Some other charges that have been thrown at you, that you hate women for example. True or false?

KT: Probably true.

RP: Why?

KT: Rejection. I got roughed up emotionally. I was a recovering addict. I have been sober for twenty years. People become addicted to substances because there happens to be some defect in their life and I obviously have it.

RP: Do you consider the 'Rough Sex' line degrading to women?

KT: Yes, but not generally. The women in them are being degraded for sexual gratification, so the answer is yes. Are you asking me if I'm trying to degrade women across the board, of course not. I have relationships that would astound people in the porn world at other aspects of my life. I am not interested in being hurtful, however if someone derives pleasure out of that behavior, I am the first in line. Assuming there is a 'Rough Sex 3' down the line, do you want it to be harder, are there more boundaries you want to push? No. Even us misogynists slash human pieces of vomit have feelings too. I am actually a little tattered by what is going on and I don't care for it. I don't need it. It's not the end of the world.

RP: That's all I've got. Anything you want to say in closing to critics or supporters?

KT: Yes, I think that I am an excellent pornographer and my second line will display my varied ability. I can hit to the opposite field and I hope that my third line will also be some sort of home run.

RP: Thank you very much.

KT: Thank you.

Luke Interviews Rough Sex Director

Fresh from a whipping at the hands of Tina Tyler, I interviewed "Rough Sex" director "Kahn Tusion" Sunday night by phone. As his email to RAME showed last week, he's intelligent and well able to verbally defend himself.

Luke: Tusion entered porn around 1992, and has worked principally in porn for Annabolic.

Kahn: "You know my disposition over what I am about to undertake."

Tusion, like many porners, was wary of talking to me. I'm usually nicest when talking to first timers, because I want to get our possible relationship off to a good start. Once you get to know someone, you learn how much you can stretch them.

This, however, is not the first time "Kahn Tusion" and I have crossed paths though I do not remember the first time. Suffice to say, Kahn is not favorably disposed towards me, and regards me as an "anti-porn activist."

Kahn: "Both our reputations precede us. I hope that I am able to surprise you positively and I hope also to be surprised. I don't know if that will happen, but if it does, it will restore an inkling of my faith."

Luke: "Cool. Has the furor over Rough Sex surprised you?"

Kahn: "Yes it has. And it is absolutely preposterous. The criticism from the RAMERs is not unexpected and I consider it valid. I think that many of the people are fearful that this might inhibit their ability to purchase or view pornography. And I can understand that fear. And the others are First Amendment honchos, and that is also a valid argument.

"The criticism from within the industry is absolutely shocking. It is so hypocritical that I am getting vertigo. It is pathetic."

Luke: "People in the industry are scared that you are the perfect fodder for anti-porn activists, therefore you endanger the way they make a living."

Kahn: "Are you an anti-porn activist?"

Luke: "No, but I am no booster of the porn industry."

Kahn: "I consider you an anti-porn activist. And I don't begrudge you one bit for it. As a matter of fact, I think it is a noble position to take. I really do. And for those people in the industry who feel that this specific movie is going to bring a pox on their house, it is ridiculous. If this movie did not exist, there are probably six to seven thousand of the eight thousand videos put out annually that are offensive and horrifying to 90% of people in America. The ten percent who do not believe they are horrifying, 90% of those people would never admit it. The reason that there is peace and tranquility in the production of pornography is that there has been a sleeping spell with the powers that eventually might attempt to eradicate it. For them to blame me is ridiculous.

"The criticisms from outside the industry are more meritorious. Because they're not manufacturing it. They're just viewing it and they're fearful for their viewing habits.

"In addition to the public criticisms that we've read on your site and on Gene Ross's site, there are some private criticisms that I've heard that I am certain are going to be made public soon. Let me give you an example. Patrick Collins [owner of Elegant Angel Video] believes that this is a horrible horrible thing and that we are terrible people over at Anabolic. This is the same gentleman who takes our titles and knocks them off practically verbatim. For instance, his Gang Bang Angels [taken from Anabolic's Gang Bang Girl line]. He believes that that is going to be acceptable to some type of municipality or state or federal government that doesn't care for pornography? He's dreaming. It's not going to happen. When the giant awakes, we're all going to be swatted. I might be swatted first, but we're all going."

Luke: "How much private reaction have you had?"

Kahn: "Horrible. Terrible. It's so hypocritical... People in the industry are extremely critical. And I believe that the basis of that criticism is two fold. One, it's based on economic jealousy. Anabolic is measurably more successful than the other companies. So consequently we make a fine target. For Rodney Moore to criticize us. He thinks this is degrading to women.

"And by the way, I do believe that this is terrible and degrading to women. I also believe that squirting half a quart of semen on to a girl's face and having her walk down Ventura Blvd has a degree of degradation. Degradation drives the business. And I think that you know that. That is why you are who you are. You understand that's what drives the business and so here we all are. In the degradation business unfortunately."

Luke: "What numbers are you selling of Rough Sex?"

Kahn: "They are astounding... There's not a porno company in the world that wouldn't flip over the numbers."

Luke: "I heard that GVA West won't handle it. How about other branches of GVA [porn's largest distributor]?"

Kahn: "There have been some companies that have refused to handle it. I don't begrudge them. It's free enterprise.

"Anabolic's success is due to their impeccable desire for quality. The founder Chris insists on certain things, like excellent production values, a certain quality performer... I think this [Rough Sex] is a step further than they've gone. And that's because I've directed it. It is something that I have experience in and it is something that I am familiar with.

"I've been reading the criticism. I've read Rebecca Bardoux's criticism that this is terrible and people go to jail for this. This is a lifestyle, Luke. There are people that participate in this. They get pleasure from it. I have simply documented it. That's all. Nothing more... Now they're going to try to make some big deal that we do something terrible to the girls, by bringing Regan Starr to the forefront.

"That charge can only be described as adolescent buffoonery. We have a videotape of what occurred. She claims that she had the sh-t knocked out of her. We have a videotape that disputes that. She claimed that this went on and on and on.

"I made an error with Regan Starr. I did not want to shoot her. She insisted to me that this was her lifestyle. She insisted to me that she enjoyed it. And she insisted to me that she did this at home. On the telephone, I was fooled 100%. The day of the shoot, when I met her, I made a judgement that I did not want to do the shoot. She implored me to go forward and against my better judgement, we did. And we only shot for six minutes. Two minutes and thirty seconds of which the action was centered on her. And then we cut the scene.

"And for people to say, 'Oh, you're forcing girls to do this.' That's ridiculous. And somewhere, somehow the accurate story will come out. There was the charge earlier brought by Linda Thoren that certain things happened that are termed rape."

Linda Thoren wrote: "My x-boyfriend Tomas Edberg interviewed Jewel Valmont last week in LA for the European magazine Cats. On the question, if it was anything she regrets in her carrier, she said that, doing this scene for Anabolic in Raw Sex #1, is the only thing she would like to be undone. She was even forced to do things she had clearly said she didn't want to do. (in Europe we call these things rape...) I fear that Anabolic -- if they continue doing these kind of scenes -- jeopardize the whole future of the Biz."

Kahn: "Well, the victim of that so-called rape has already disputed Linda Thoren's account of it and has continued to work for me subsequent to that and will work for me again.

"I don't know what you and Gene Ross do. I'm a big First Amendment guy. I respect the fact that you can print anything you want. Yet when someone like Linda Thoren writes that, it is incumbent on you or Gene to say, 'What about the fact that the girl was disputing your charges? Do you want to elaborate? Do you want to stand by it?' It's dangerous stuff and you've admitted that you've been hurtful to people in the past for this exact kind of thing. And I believe that if you could do it over again you might undo a few of the things that you have done."

Luke: "True."

Kahn: "It is frustrating. And I believe that most of the criticism is because of the origin of the tape - Anabolic Video."

Luke: "So if Elegant Angel released this tape, there would not be as much criticism?"

Kahn: "They're doing it now. I went into the store... First, I'm a fan and I rent videos. And second, I went in to peruse the competition. And I see Elegant Angel's knockoff Gangbang [Angels]... Considering Patrick's recent history, I'm sure the movie was directed by either his gardener, or by his maid's boyfriend. And the big hook on the movie is 'Shot in a real frat house.' I guess that makes the sex better.

"So I turn over the box and see an interesting thing. It's starring a woman named Miko Lee. And they gleefully write on the back of the box 'She likes it rough.' And they show a picture of Mr. Marcus choking her, with a grimace on her face. I haven't seen the movie so I can't say what exactly is taking place. But I know Mr. Marcus. He's a friend of mine. I have an idea what took place but I didn't want to bother renting it... After criticizing us, they're inmitating us."

Luke: "Where do you want to go with this series?"

Kahn: "I wrote in response to Linda Thoren: 'Even us misogynist / human pieces of vomit have feelings too.' Frankly, considering what is going on, I'm going to rethink it and take a break. I've spoken to Chris at Anabolic and I'm going to at best, put this on long hiatus and at worse, I might do something else."

Luke: "Is porn your fulltime gig?"

Kahn: "No."

Regan Starr Rough Sex Controversy

AJB writes on RAME: It shows that consent was granted at the beginning but it was not well informed consent. It also tells us that she, ultimately, had control to stop her participation but that she was intimidated too much to cut it off as soon as she might otherwise have wished. If she took the producer & director to court (not sure what the exact charge would be in California) I'd be on her side. Unfortunately, Regan Starr might not get work anywhere else in the porn industry if she did this AND the lawyers would rape her more than any porn movie makers ever could.

I'm still not convinced that this type of movie should be banned / shunned as an entire class of product. Regan Starr's testimony simply tells us that one scene from one instance of the rough sex product class may have criminal or civil legal issues involved. As long as the performing girls know exactly what their getting into, are well informed, they are of sound mind and take the job description seriously, I can't see how this kind of work is much different from WWF fake wrestling, getting the sh-t beat out of you in an action film, playing a rough pro sport, etc, etc. If Regan Starr were crying about getting hurt repeatedly playing hockey in the NHL, there would be no cries to ban hockey. People die or get badly injured in phony wrestling, where's the movement to ban it? Vic Morrow got his f-cking head chopped off doing a scene in "Twilight Zone: The Movie" -- this resulted in a court case (negligence and wrongful death charges I think it was) but did we all think it made sense to condemn and/or ban all science fiction? Of course not. And I'm not knocking over a straw man argument. A few folks have, essentially, said that if it's got sex and violence mixed together, that type of movie should be automatically banned or boycotted.

Rough sex on film is just another job a consenting adult can do, another means of employment in which the employer has a very much heightened responsibility to watch out for the safety of the employee. It's just mixing sex with violence that gets the Puritans upset and they use the terms "rape" and "misogyny" to buttress their arguments, hiding their private moral / religious angst under the banner of feminism, patriotism, the Laws of Nature or whatever high minded notions they can subvert to their cause.

Atomic writes on RAME: What, is no one responsible for themselves or their own actions anymore? If she didn't like the treatment she was getting, why the didn't she get up off her knees, wipe the drool off of her chin, and get the hell outta Dodge?

One word: greed. She accepts the treatment, takes the money, then later bitches because she didn't like the way she was treated. 2 to 1 she'd do it again in a heartbeat if it put money in her pocket. However, in the screwball world that we live in, it can't be her fault: she's the victim of greedy, unscrupulous men, eager to exploit her for the sake of filthy lucre.

What's surprising is that those who have been so quick to criticize the RS2 Director have been just as quick to come to the defense of the poor female victims who were abused at his behest. Why aren't the female performers just as responsible for the video as the Director and the male performers?

2/3/00

Rough Sex

Slouch Potato writes on RAME: I spoke with Kahn Tusion at his home under a rock in tony North Hollywood.

SlouchPotato: "Hello, Kahn. Thank you for granting me this interview."

Kahn: "I felt it my duty to correct the public record as to my conduct in the matter of the video recording entitled 'Rough Sex 2,' which is a brilliant, but brutally realistic, depiction of a lifestyle practiced by billions of fully consenting human beings, who have every right as adult persons to comport themselves in a manner that is unacceptable to the proverbial "John Q. Public" and entirely degrading and dehumanizing to women everywhere, but is an emphatically honest and sincere expression of nonconforming norms and mores that..."

Slouch: "Could you rephrase that?"

Kahn: "I like puttin' the hurt on bitches."

Slouch: "Has your career been on a bit of a downturn since you starred in 'Star Wars' some twenty years ago? I think the last thing I saw you in was a computer game."

Kahn: "Well, yes. A few years ago, while continuing to work in the 'legitimate' movie industry, I was having lunch with Margot Kidder, when I noticed that the trashcan out of which we were eating had an inch-deep layer of maggots at the bottom. Margot suggested that I use the maggots as a spread on my partially-eaten sandwich, to which I responded by punching her f-cking lights out. With this on my resume, I applied for employment at Anabolic the very next day. They hired me immediately, and I haven't looked back since. Let me mention at this juncture that Chris Alexander is a prince among men, a giant of the entertainment business and a true visionary." (Chris Alexander, the owner of Anabolic, has entered the room and has been silently listening.)

Slouch: "It's been suggested by some that you're a 'piece of human vomit,' a 'dirty, misogynistic scumrag,' a 'greedy, soulless, mentally- damaged, drug-addicted...'"

Kahn: "I resemble that! Ha ha ha ha ha ha."

Slouch: "So what does the future hold for 'Rough Sex?'"

Kahn: "After careful consideration, I've reluctantly decided to take a hiatus from this pathbreaking series to expand my horizons and broaden my artistic base. To always be doing the same thing can make a genius like myself seem stale and unoriginal. My self-expression is a vast untapped potential that cannot be bounded by the strictures of a..."

Chris: "We're pulling it."

Kahn: "There's that, too. I'm also shelving my plans for series called 'Slap the Infant,' and 'Mo Lester's Schoolyard Adventures.'"

Slouch: "So, what will you be doing instead?"

Kahn: "I have several ambitious new undertakings in the works. One is a series titled 'Suck My Cock, You Worthless Cunt.' It features about twenty scenes of girls doing nothing but giving guys blowjobs. Why hasn't someone thought of this before? An additional project is a penetrating look into another deviant but profitable-to-video lifestyle. In it, guys will be pulling the wings off flies, complete with close-ups. It's called 'Pretty Fly (for a Scumbag).' Jon Dough, Mr Marcus and Mickey G are already signed up."

Slouch: "Well, thank you very much for being here."

Kahn: "You're welcome, and thank you for having me."

Slouch: "You're welcome, too, and thank you again."

Kahn: "Yes, thank you." Slouch: "You're welcome, thank you."

Kahn: "Thank you, you're welcome.".

Slouch: "Thank you."

Rebecca Bardoux writes: "First I would like to thank your readers for the response of my writing. Glad that Rough Sex is off the shelves but that is not enough. I hope Reagan Starr will follow through with her lawsuit. Second in responds to Kianne Bradley I don't know you, never saw of picture of you but you say you like rough sex being beat up, you said if you don't want to see it don't watch it. Yes if we were all responsible viewers that would be fine, but it's not reality. There are tons of men in prison that would love to beat the sh-t out of you, that's why they are in there. Maybe you should look inside yourself to find out why you like rough sex because that is not normal behavior."

Donedone@aol.com writes: "Luke, I am working on a new series of porn its gonna be pregnant 18 year olds getting beat by giant black men while double fisted in the butt and getting stabbed in the belly with flaming hot red pokers then i'll pee on the girls' flayed skin after i beat them with a bullwhip for 8 hours this is a new softcore series im working on. nothing is too extreme for me we are gonna beat the girls till they are a giant bruise cause thats what the people want. My new name is Bone Bruze its a play on the whole Kahn Tusion thing. My partners name is En Ternal-Bleeding. we are looking for girls, so if you can send any our way, that would be great..."

Steve Neece writes: I feel inspired once more to add my voice to the fray.Khan Tusion is remarkably forthcoming and honest about his hatreds and inadequacies.He admits to a hatred of women and attributes it to his visual repulsiveness and the rejection he suffered.It has been my experience that most of the most prominent porners are unusually physically repulsive.I need not cite examples,they are everywhere.Is this why they got in the biz?Hatred,revenge,greed, a volatile mixture.He also speaks of shame as an erotic turn on and bemoans its lack in present day performers.He seeks to uncover shame.I tend to beleive he has a fertile field to play with . I believe an incredible number of women wallow in self hatred.The percentage is probably nearly as high in the outside world as in porn and highest of all among the most blindly religious as hatred of women is a cornerstone in all major religions . Domestic violence is most prevalent in religious households though far less reported as husbands believe it is their divine right to abuse women and children .

Porn reflects this . I have not seen Rough Sex 2 tho I hope to obtain a copy before it is pulled to see what the flap is about . There is nothing daring or groundbreaking in fem/hate porn . It is merely the carrying out of the age old Judaeo-Christian double standard that any woman who asserts her sexuality is a whore/pig/slut/tramp etc. and what fun it is to punish them.The mindset of these vids is from the good old days when air was clean and sex was dirty .Though the religious right pretends to abhor them their sexual sentiments are pretty much the same as Max Hardcore or Andrew Dice Clay for that matter . Beleive me,they hate Candida Royalle far more tha Max .What is radical or different or progressive about fem/hate?It has been around forever and it has always been a part of the establishment .

If love and caring and equality are absolutely abhorrent to you then at least be different in your hatred . Lets really get interesting and make videos that promote the erotic butchery of men . Simulated castrations,drownings in sh-t etc. done artistically for the sexual enjoyment of sophisticated women and Gay men . As long as the victims are staight,anti intellectual,macho blue collar men there will be little or no outcry from the feminists.To be fair there should also be plenty of non white male victims so cries of reverse discrimination will not occur . Make all the female predators wealthy and powerful and educated so the establishment will identify with them instead of feeling threatened by them as they do with Jews and Italians and Blacks . If all their victims are identified as child molesters/abusers,rapists,wife beaters,pimps etc. then why should the public care if their executioners receive sexual enjoyment from their demise ? Think about this;would the average porn freak forego masturbating to a hot girl /girl scene even if the source and inspiration for their passion was some guy being slowly strangled to death in the background ? I think not . Did you ever see the movie "Salo" ? It was an arthouse fave in the late 70's and I have to imagine it was far more extreme than "Rough Sex 2" and nobody complained .

Nobody should be shocked that there are women who like to be abused . The suffering martyr syndrome is far from dead in many cultures in this country and the vituous suffering wife/punching bag that always feels it is her duty to take abuse and that hubby wouldn't do it if he didn't love her is the flip side of the porno girls who are willing victims of Max,R.Black etc.They probably share the same source of guilt . Seems Kianna has bought into this abuse equals love equation .If its good enough for nuns (self flegellation/suffering as joy) I guess I cannot deny its consolations to the sisters of porn . But be advised that you are indeed contributing to hatred between genders when you perform this on video.It may be a game to you and hubby but it is deadly serious to most of the consumers of this and given the chance you best believe they would not respect your limits . If you have female offspring how will you explain your love/hate equation to them ? Will you foster this mindset as countless billions of mothers have done before you ,thinking they are doing the right thing .

Todd Gumm writes: Luke, Lately I've read a lot on your site about Porn is on it's way out, and how Rough Sex 2 is the start of the end of Porn, This is all such bullsh-t, Porn will last longer than any of us. Porn will live forever, simply because as long as someone can make Megabucks from Porn, it WILL be available! The only way you can ever stop Porn is to make Porn nonprofitable, in other words, If the pornstars, directors, producers, video companies, prostitutes, Website owners, magazine companies, and other porn related businesses can't make money from it, THEN it may not exist, may not, I say may not because you'll always have a few that will do it for Free, but most of it would come to a direct stop! Luke, I expect porn will outlive us all, because as long as there is a demand for porn, there will be porn, and as long as there is a demand for it, there will be Megabucks to be made from it, and if you can make Megabucks from it, It WILL be made!

Phyllisha Anne writes about Rough Sex: Okay now it's my turn. hehe The point is rough sex hits a fetish that maybe hasn't been played with before. This is porn. Porn is supposed to play with every fetish. This is Bondage put to the extreme without restraints.

ANABOLIC MADE A DAMN GOOD MOVIE, If it wasn't good this wouldn't even be an issue. I was having soooo much fun I forgot to have sex. And Ragen I've known you for a while, you said stop and they stooped. Respect token. Maybe you should have said stop sooner, that would be no ones call but your own. I was helping casting this movie, and I was told to make damn sure girls knew what they were getting into, because it was costing way to much to keep having to stop and re-shot these scenes. And it wasn't a turning on unless the girls wanted to do it, it wasn't a turn on to see girls not enjoying themselves.

By this I mean the girl maybe hurting a little but her pussy still was wet. This is a fetish to some people, just like feet are. We are supposed to acquire every fetish, every fantasy. This fantasy is not meant for the rapists out there, but maybe for that women that likes the felling of being over powered. Thats the real turn on in this not that a bich is being slapped but someone has ultimate power and control over another, and the other to be completely powerless to the controller. Now I don't now anyone that doesn't get wet or hard over power. Do you?

Kianna Bradley writes: well i must say thank you to both parties, that were on my behalf. jack thank you for the compliments and Emmett we should just let it go. you know people are going to do what they want even though some may not agree. some like different things for different reasons just like my roommate likes anal sex i don't paticurlarily care for it. you know the women in this industry have a lot of pressure we are basically are incharge we have to make it look good we have to keep it good for everyone what we look like, by keeping are looks up it is very hard to keep everybody pleased in other words we have control, over this the fans what we do what we don't, we all no matter how much sh-t we talk have to back eachother!so we all help not hurt eachother and i don't think any company would truly hurt or injure any of us (purposly).

all I'm saying is if Reagan got hurt I'm sorry, but she did know what it was about, we all worn eachother about eachother i cant believe no one told her weather it be a friend or a CO worker not to mention anabolic, that she had no clue how extreme the scene would be. I'm really sorry for Anabolic and my friend for many reasons (Khan) you people don't know actually what a caring person he really is, but I'm sorry they are going through so much abuse, cause you know what, those people would do anything for anyone of you! I've seen it time and again giving everyone a chance, just like reagan.its kinda like Lukes site if you don't like it don't read it and we are the ones who feed into it, we are the ones who read it.its not his words they are yours, just like no one made you read it nor write in,he is doing his job, i'm doing mine and i've learned in this buss. people will take and take but never give well maybe this is my shot, i stand up for the people of Anabolic for the fact i have a lot of respect for them.

They have given' so much to me besides jobs w/ good pay but they have given me friendship through all the bullsh-t i went through lately. thank you Anabolic for being there and always saying i was something special, and letting me know if i wanted my contract bad enough i could get it and i did!!and as far as the company i am with well i feel the same way about them they never gave up on me, even if i do get replaced Emmett, that's o. k they gave me a shot, and it happens you know my mom, who is very sick says when i bitch all the time about dumb sh-t like this, says don't sweat the small sh-t and everything is small sh-t, she's right look at all we have a choice of, she doesn't and when a woman that doesn't have a choice to do what or anything we can says that, well, think about it, that is a gift, a choice a decision to be able to make yourself, and if someone makes a decision we shouldn't knock it, we all sometimes make bad decions, but who is to say what's right or wrong?

i can just let you all know ,that we the female talent did have a choice, and my roomate Phyllisha Anne, was also in it and loved it too. everyone is different, it doesn't promote rape to me but I'm not everyone,I realize that but ciggarets dont always give evryone cancer either, but I still smoke.and maybe if someone could rape because they watched this,just think of the one it could prevent. a control freak that rapes (gets off on it) after they have gotten (off on it) they no longer have the urge, just maybe he got off on the video first? we don't know and no one knows.

Emmett writes: Dear Kianna Bradley, That is an awesome letter you written. Your brain is as stunning as your body. I also feel regret from my last letter about you. But we both made some strong points. But that is what L-ke F-ord site is all about (well some of it anyway), to read others thoughts, opinions, and facts, then add your own thoughts about what you read. An open forum. I like what you said. So, Emmett (The often proclaimed ill-opinionated) officially stands down. And I do hope provincial and avarice minded, Metro keeps you for at least two more decades because you are breath taking. Later.

XXX writes: Remember when i wrote you about luke campbell being censored for nasty as thay wanna be? The Too Live Crew ? They were attacked on a national scale while folks like Iggy Pop, big black and the entire punk genre was ignored Why ? The only male talent that keeps comming up in this dialog is Mr Marcus? He can't be worse than rocco or max ? being no one else is saying it i'll ask the question... Is the real beef here due to thefact that marcus is black ? This appears to me to be the natural course this dialog has taken ?

NJG writes: I am very very glad the Rough Sex series has been discontinued by Anabolic. I have been thinking about what Khan Tusion said though. He talked to the women for 4 days, constantly telling them how rough it was going to be. They verbally agreed. It seems that it was even rougher than how he portrayed it to them. Think of it. He's telling you for 4 days how miserable it's going to be, and you (the performer) say yes, fine, I can deal with that, I like it rough...then, when it comes down to it, it is so awful, horrible and painfulthat you wind up crying, he continues to film your humiliation and degradation, you want him to stop it now.