The Obscenity Police Are Coming
By Susannah Breslin From Forbes.com
They want to put me in jail, basically.”
That’s how porn director John Stagliano responds when I ask him what he thinks of the 2012 GOP platform, in particular one newly added sentence:
“Current laws on all forms of pornography and obscenity need to be vigorously enforced.”
Two years ago, Stagliano was sitting in a Washington, D.C., courtroom, charged with seven counts of distributing obscenity. Today, he’s a free man, after federal court judge Richard J. Leon “dismissed with prejudice” several of the counts and for the remaining counts “granted the defendants’ motion for judgment of acquittal under Rule 29.”
But an anti-porn crusader says Mitt Romney has vowed if he’s elected president, he’ll ramp up obscenity prosecutions, a task President Obama has shown little interest in pursuing.
According to Patrick Trueman, who ran the Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section at the Department of Justice under President Reagan and President George H. W. Bush and who now runs Morality in Media, an anti-porn organization, Romney intends to launch a war on porn. In a meeting with Alex Wong, Romney’s foreign and legal policy director, Trueman says Wong told him, “Romney is sincere about this. He’s convinced this has now had a terrible effect on society, and he will enforce the law.”
And that means pornographers like Stagliano could become targets once again. “I don’t really want to go to jail,” Stagliano says. “I’ve got a two-year-old son. And I have a daughter, as well. I don’t think she’d like that either.”
In 2007, Romney swore that if he were elected president, he would put a porn filter on every computer. As Stagliano, a Libertarian who plans to vote for Gary Johnson, sees it, an administration that seeks to legislate its constituents’ morality is the real threat. “My morality would be based on, as long as you don’t harm somebody, anything should be permitted,” Stagliano tells me. “The government can’t solve our problems.” As Trueman sees it, porn is a scourge, and the current status is “pandemic.” “When I was at the Department of Justice, we were vigorously prosecuting this, and the reason why is because people were demanding it,” he recalls. Today, porn is ubiquitous, and “The nature of today’s pornographers have changed,” Trueman says. “What you’ve got are the white collar pornographers. These companies know there’s hundreds of millions to be made.”
X-rated content has proved lucrative for big businesses like hotel chains not typically associated with porn. In his bid for the presidential seat, Romney resigned from the board of the Marriott hotel chain, with which he has close ties, and Marriott has announced its intention to phase out adult content. Trueman believes porn is eroding the very fiber that holds America together: ruining marriages, altering brains, breaking down inhibitions. “You’ll never do away with all of it, but we have an untreated pandemic of harm, and you have to do something about it,” he pronounces.
Ask Santa Monica-based Roger Diamond what he thinks of devoting more government dollars to obscenity prosecutions, and he’ll tell you, “Oh, that’s really a waste of money.”
For the last five years, Diamond has represented Ira Isaacs, a Los Angeles-based pornographer the Bush administration’s now-disbanded Obscenity Prosecution Task Force at the DoJ indicted for distributing and producing scat and bestiality videos. Earlier this year, Isaacs was convicted, despite his arguments, through multiple trials, that his eye-popping videos were not obscene, but art. What it obscene? Potter Stewart said, “I know it when I see it“; the Miller Test sought to locate it. To be found obscene, and therefore not protected by the First Amendment, a work must appeal to prurient interests according to community standards, depict sexual activity in an offensive way, and be wholly lacking in scientific, artistic, political or literary value.
Some may say Isaacs’ oeuvre is beyond the pale, but that doesn’t mean he should be imprisoned for it, Diamond argues. “I find it personally offensive,” Diamond confesses when I ask him what he thinks of Isaacs’ movies, “but I think people have the right to produce it and watch it. I think that’s essential to our freedom.” Not only do obscenity prosecutions squander resources, “It would also put a chill in Southern California,” Diamond says. “The economy in Southern California is based in a large part on the adult film industry. They employ a lot of people.”
When I reach Isaacs, he’s awaiting sentencing. I interviewed him several years ago. Back then, he was nearly elated at the prospect of a courtroom battle over his right to create what he called “shock art” and which he compared to Marcel Duchamp’s Fountain. Now he sounds defeated, almost broken. “They wore me down,” he admits.I ask him how he felt when he was convicted this spring. “It was very, very surreal obviously,” Isaacs says. “I’ve always likened myself to Josef K. from [Kafka’s] The Trial, and his fate at the end wasn’t so good either. I wasn’t surprised. I wasn’t shocked. It’s almost not about you anymore. It’s, like, outside you. It’s like a surreal view of myself.” Guilty on five counts, Isaacs speculates he could be sentenced to five to seven years for each count. How does he feel about going to prison at 61? “It’s a big adventure when you do big political things like I did,” he says. “These are the risks you have to take. I have to do the time. I accept the responsibility. And if that means going to prison, I do it. That’s just the way it is. It doesn’t scare me.” As for regrets, “I regret not putting enough Bach music behind the movies,” he announces. “My only regrets are artistic regrets.” Stagliano estimates he spent around $900,000 defending himself. And Isaacs? “I’m totally broke,” he laments. “I’m convicted. I’m being evicted. I’ve pretty much run out of money. I have no income, and I can’t seem to get past that. And that’s what’s frustrating. Who’s going to hire a felon who’s going to be in prison in two months?” Despite the fact that his “2 Girls 1 Cup” defense didn’t work, he’s trying to focus on the bright side. “Who knows how it turns out,” he says. “I might be writing a book and become the darling of late night TV. I think if I’m in prison, I’ll have plenty of time to write it. I think it would make a good story. There’s sex in it. The media’s in it. I think it has all the things for at least a TV movie.” Isaacs has spoken with Max Hardcore — real name: Paul Little — who spent two years in prison for distributing his notoriously provocative brand of pornographic content that a Tampa, Florida, jury deemed obscene. “He was very encouraging,” Isaacs relates. “‘Prison’s not so bad.’ Max is a great guy.”
Isaacs mentions Martha Stewart. “If all these people can get through it,” he decides. “I think I’ll get through it just fine.” I ask Isaacs if he thinks he went too far.
“I don’t think I went far enough,” he declares. Until his sentencing, he has plenty of time to ponder an art installation he’d like to do. Visitors to a gallery enter a room, where his explicit videos are playing on the walls. A video camera records the observers’ reactions as they watch, and the footage of their responses is streamed live on the internet and projected onto the front exterior wall of the gallery.
Meanwhile, the industry’s performers are considering their votes carefully. Lisa Ann is best known for portraying Sarah Palin in an adult video titled “Who’s Nailin’ Palin?”
During the Republican National Convention, she performed her Palin routine at a Tampa, Florida, strip club called Thee DollHouse. “It was a perfect weekend,” she says. “It’s a very simple costume, but it’s something that everyone enjoys, whether they find it funny or really liked Palin.” I ask if she’s considered performing as Ann Romney. “The only two people I’ve done are Sarah Palin and Tina Fey,” she says. “After that point, I was like, I want to leave my parodies right here. I don’t want to beat a dead horse.” Come November, she’ll be casting her vote for Obama. “I think Romney wants to take us back about 125 years,” she says. She has faith her audience will prevail at the polls. “That voter who votes also watches porn, and that voter doesn’t want to lose their right watch porn.”
Porn star Sovereign Syre, who’s been in the business about a year and only does girl-girl scenes, is more philosophical about the matter. I ask if she’s familiar with the 2012 GOP platform.
“Their Mein Kampf?” she asks. In recent years, the definition of pornographer has changed, and the porn star who used to go to the San Fernando Valley to find XXX fame can become a sex star on the internet from the privacy of her own home with the right web cam girl handle. Now producing adult content herself, Syre is aware a new regime could make her a target for federal prosecutors. As part of Darling House, a collective that produces adult content and bills itself as “The Other American Dream,” Syre is part of a new generation of digital pornographers who “find themselves having to navigate” this new porn world. “When someone like Romney says they’re going to tackle obscenity, that scares me,” Syre confesses. “People go to jail for years. The consequences are very real.” In her view, the porn industry regulates itself. “We’ve created our own system of checks and balances,” she says. “There’s already self-regulation in place.”
That said, not all is well in Porn Valley. The proliferation of free, pirated adult content on the web, the recession, and a series of debates over condom usage and STDs in the industry have hurt porn’s bottom line. “Porn is an industry that’s seriously in trouble,” she says. “It’s going through a massive restructuring. A new business model has to emerge, but no one knows what that’s going to be.” Syre is convinced that “trying to legislate porn when [people are] posting naked photos of themselves on Twitter” is a waste of time and resources that’s woefully out of sync with our times. “Caligula would blush at what you can download for free on your computer.” In the end, she says, porn people are like everyone else and working in porn is just another job.
“We’re not alien mutant creatures,” she tells me. “We’re normal people, and this is a job. As much as people want to rally against porn, nearly everyone I’ve met in my life has consumed it at least once.” Prosecutions, she says, could drive porn underground, and the outcome would be dire. “If it all goes underground, performers are putting their health at risk, and, just like any industry, you’re going to have outlaws there,” she warns. “The product is going to get more degrading and weird because no one will self-regulate.”
Porn will never die, Syre says, “it’s just going to become increasingly dangerous” if Romney gets elected and his administration heads to the Valley and starts hunting pornographers.
Romney wants to return us to the dark ages. If he gets in a woman’s right to choose and pornographic material will both be endandered species. We will see more and more the govt. deciding choices that YOU should be deciding all under the umbrella of doing whats best for you.
Obama ain’t going after porn. There are raunchy old photos of his white mom posing naked with her ass toward the camera (do a google search). And the worst elements of porn can’t come near the levels of moral/ethical degeneracy in D.C. that Mitt, The Shit, is part of. There are far too many examples to even name.
Voyeur behavior now chooses the free websites of the internet as the media they prefer. Due to global inflation and decline of the San Fernando Valleys
political approval of the industry there really is no meat on the bones, so to speak. The feds have a lot of things in their plans. Drones armed with weapons and cameras probably already roam the skys as do millions of cameras and rats, the two legged variety to make up stories about abnormal behavior.
I think the age of porn friendly city governments may only be over the pond in Europe. No matter which Goldman Sachs puppet gets elected the industry is a dwarf of what it was before the free websites produced by supposed dating sites.
So we got a reason to reelect that embarrassment to good Muslims, mr. Barrie Hussain sounds like Osama Obama . Regardless, this crusade is just a diversion n a way to make two parties which in the most important and basic ways are the same seem really different. It’s also Bush 2.0 and a return of the Neo con artists, which, whos ways n means btw Barry has basically continued or advanced. Blah.
if you think that both parties are basically the same, then you are even farther from reality than i thought
Word to the unwise… Hey Travis, they’re puppets. The ain’t real. They’re both phony, bullshitting, bad actor, sellouts. Bush n Clinton go golfing together, ya know why? Theyre different players in the same game.
James Lee is good friends with Romney and other repubs. As soon as Romney is elected, watch how many porn companies go under and or sell out to fabian at Manwin to bail out before all this shit happens. Who knows, maybe fabian will get caught and be the next one in a US Federal prison next.
it will only help the industry. opression is good for porn. ever since the anti-smoking laws went into place cigarettes are selling at an all-time high. When it was taboo and needed to be undercover, porn was a guilty pleasure and the business thrived.
I do NOT want him to win, but this wouldn’t hurt me at all.
My comment is still in moderation from yesterday and its like over 24 hours ago??
bad is good, war is peace, freedom is slavery
Mariah. Look at what happened to Kimberley Kupps. Obscenity prosecutions can put you in jail…
I think porn has always been taboo. Business did not thrive when obscenity prosecutions were rampant anymore than it did in the mid-2000s.
are you telling me that you really believe that porn didn’t thrive when it was illegal???? It became a billion dollar industry when Jim South and Russ Hampshire were going to jail for pandering. It absolutely flourished when it wasn’t so openly manstream the way it is now.
And I’m sorry but Kimberly Kupps is a fucking idiot. I live not far from where she does and EVERYONE here knows where you can and cannot conduct business. Naughty Alisha moved 2 miles across county lines to be out of Polk County. There is no secret here that you can’t fuck around in that area and she did anyway. She gets zero sympathy from me.
“Don’t listen to the world because there are people who would like to impose their laws on you. These people are enemies, criminals.” – Rajneesh
Mitt Romney is a liar and clown. He a guy who attacks the weak to look strong and a coward to the powerful. Don’t believe the hype, he is bad news!!!
Years ago the manufacturing company I worked for had some of the departments bought by another company. Shortly after that the production was moved to China and the doors closed and 5500 full time employees had to look for new jobs. Many in their 30s, 40s, and 50s now out trying to find a decent paying factory job.
Recently in the newspaper there was an article about the anniversary of the closing of the plant and the fact came out that the company that bought us out and closed the doors was a subsidy of Bain Capital (Mitt Romney’s company). So this is the guy that is trying to become president? Any person that actually works for a living and votes for him is buying a rope for their own hanging.
@Mariah — Russ Hampshire didn’t go to jail for pandering. He did a year in prison for Interstate Transportation of Obscene Materials, and that was (if memory serves) because he took the fall for a shipping guy in his warehouse who sent movies to a zip code which he shouldn’t have.
I find mainstream news n entetainment to b filled w/ obscene material. I find parading the false as fact to b obscene, not fucking.
I told you this guy is bad news, look at what he really thinks of half of this country!!! It really shows how much of a asshole, he really is behind closed doors! So now the truth is starting to come out about how he really feels for some people that need help.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/secret-video-romney-private-fundraiser
Another article on this same subject from the newswire:
COSTA MESA, Calif. — Republican Mitt Romney is trying to head off a new distraction for his campaign after a video surfaced showing him telling wealthy donors that 47 percent of all Americans “believe they are victims” entitled to help from the government that permeates their lives.
At an impromptu news conference Monday, Romney offered no apologies, conceding the comments were not “elegantly stated” and were spoken “off the cuff.” The Republican presidential nominee said the remarks showed a contrast between President Barack Obama’s “government-centered society” and his belief in a “free-market approach.”
“Of course, I want to help all Americans, all Americans, have a bright and prosperous future,” Romney told reporters.
Obama’s campaign pounced on the video, which was obtained by the magazine Mother Jones and released only hours after Romney’s campaign outlined a new strategy to try to rejuvenate a struggling campaign. The video’s emergence came as advisers to the former Massachusetts governor tried to reassure party leaders and donors about Romney’s strategy amid concerns that the race could be slipping away.
“There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what,” Romney is shown saying in the video of a May 17 fundraiser in Boca Raton, Fla. “There are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe that government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it.”
Romney said in the video that his role “is not to worry about those people. I’ll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.”
In a 7-minute news conference with reporters before a fundraiser near Los Angeles, Romney did not dispute the authenticity of the hidden-camera footage, but he called for the release of the full video, instead of just the clips posted online. He sought to clarify his remarks but did not apologize when a reporter asked if he was concerned that he may have offended people.
“It’s not elegantly stated, let me put it that way. I was speaking off the cuff in response to a question. And I’m sure I could state it more clearly in a more effective way than I did in a setting like that,” Romney said.
About 46 percent of Americans owed no federal income tax in 2011, although many of them paid other forms of taxes. More than 16 million elderly Americans avoid federal income taxes solely because of tax breaks that apply only to seniors, according to the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center.
The video was the latest headache for Romney’s campaign, which has tried to focus attention on a weak economic recovery and make the case that the Republican’s business background would help spur the economy. In recent weeks, it has dealt with the fallout from Clint Eastwood’s rambling conversation with a chair at the Republican convention and Romney’s omission of the war in Afghanistan or thanks to the troops in his primetime convention speech.
The eruption of violence in Egypt and Libya last week prompted Romney to issue a statement assailing the Obama administration before it was known that an American ambassador and three other U.S. citizens had died in Libya, a move that generated criticism from Democrats and Republicans alike.
A series of polls have shown Obama with an edge nationally and in key battleground states, leading Republicans to implore Romney to give voters more specifics on how he would govern. The new approach aims to improve Romney’s standing in the lead-up to the first presidential debate on Oct. 3.
Obama campaign manager Jim Messina quickly issued a fundraising appeal based on the video, telling supporters, “If we don’t come through for President Obama right now, this will be the guy making big decisions that affect us and our families every single day.”
An Obama adviser said the Democratic campaign might use Romney’s comments from the fundraising video in television advertisements. The official wasn’t authorized to discuss campaign strategy publicly and requested anonymity.
Romney’s campaign released a separate television ad, arguing that the president’s policies “are making it harder on women.” It cited unemployment and poverty statistics for women in an attempt to close the gender gap that has shown women favoring Obama.
{{{Anyone that votes for Romney and IS NOT a millionaire or better really need to be taken out back and shot}}}.
AND ? whats your point ? may have been not politically correct but thats what he’s up against.
ya wanna list the horrible shit bama has said and the media gives him a pass on ?
“you didnt build that “
You are correct that he went to PRISON for interstate mailing but he also went to jail several times for pandering. Big difference.
Just look at how Jon Stewart summed up Romney ass or maybe he should have listen more to his mother!! He has no respect for his family pass and a asshole.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-september-18-2012/the-millionaire-gaffemaker
In the most fundamental ways, both candidates are the same… minions of wall street, supporters of the federal reserve, patriot act, war, starvation of 1/2 the world population… back n forth between two puppets. Wake up.
Okay saying they are the same is bullshit, anyone that does not stand up for their family past is a piece of shit in my book. This guy does not care about average people in this country. He cares about the rich and keeping their tax rate low. I bet you each person on this broad pays more taxes than two face Romney!!!! I am not happy with some of the things with the President either, but the other guy cannot be trusted.
Why don’t you people stop voting for anyone you are not happy with? Stop letting the controlled media manipulate you into choosing between two puppet candidates. And boycott the media and their sponsors since they don’t make any issue whatsoever with rigged Presidential elections in America.
So let rich people continue to control things and keep quiet by not voting? I do not think so and you are right about one thing, they are trying to manipulate us. The real problem is big business, trying to clown people in this country. You have to think for yourself and do what is best for you, but not voting is playing into their hands!!!
No, u got it backwards. Voting is playing into their hands, since the whole process, from nomination to election is rigged. Our votes don’t count, so why vote? You’re just wearing a “sucker” sign on you by doing so. Greg Palast did some excellent investigative work, revealing that black counties supposedly voted for Bush, including more votes in counties then there were registered voters, etc. And when criminals get away with crimes, they keep pulling more and worse shit. Demoncrats n Republicons are beholden to the fat cats n illuminazi bilderberg bohemian grove group.
Jeremy, aren’t you a convicted felon? If so you cannot vote.
In 1999, I was given a pound of skank weed by one of the investor reps of an internet company which owed me and many lots of money because Nick Robles aka Nick Richmond was spending all the investors money on boywhores. The weed was given to me as a consolation to try to keep me quite about it, and then the next morning 7 sheriffs with guns drawn were at my door. Having no priors or big moolah to fight it I just pleaded no contest.
Anyway, imagine people protested in mass with signs saying votings rigged, citing examples such as I have mentioned and demanding accountability from gov’t and compliant media… then we’d have a real peoples’ movement. Until that happens, to put it as Alex says, we’re only playing into their hands, the role of collective sucker, again and again, thinking change is around the corner when it is basically the same shit, only getting incrementally worser and worser, with one side blaming the other while both sides are playing the puppet role in pretense against their political opponent, but in reality, in unison against humanity.
I am voting for the President and not some asshole, who is a two face with no heart! So if you can’t vote or don’t want to vote, that is on you. Also nobody agrees with anyone all the time, even the President. I like and trust him more than that clown, he is running against!!
Who the hell, votes for party that does this to our troops?
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/09/19/875351/republicans-kill-vets-job-bill/?mobile=nc
I agree with all you say about Romney. But, Obama has no heart, either, he’s just a better actor. He cut off health care to the elderly deemed human sacrifices. He actually said “thankyou” to Bush for his “service” to America and proceeded to make things worse economically. He’s has done absolutely nothing to stand in the way of the nightmarish policies of the Federal Reserve or expose any of the various evil scams pulled on this country. He appointed the v.p. of genetically modified food Monsanto to oversea the FDA, that means Obama is guilty of approving foods proven to cause a range of serious diseases, including cancer and destroying the foundation of health for ALL Americans! Next to air and water, food is the most vital necessity. But, hey, cancer and disease is good for business (those business friends of his). I call that no heart. Obumma’s first employer in D.C. was war criminal and original chairman of Bush appointed 9/11 “no blame” omission commission, Henry Kissinger. Reverend Wright screamed “God Damn America” and his disciple Barrie IS damning America. But again, I no sooner want Romney in office, either. We should all write in the candidate named “Robamney” and vote for him because these assholes are essentially the same. They’ll lie and say whatever the fuck to get into office and then they’ll do the bidding of the hidden masters. Whoever wins, we lose.
Geez, on moderation again. What EVIL word is it this time that’s listed above? Thanks Cindi!
“comment is awaiting moderation”… NOOOOooooooooooooooooooo! Check for it in about three days to three weeks.
Jeremy what the fuck are you talking about, half of the shit you mention is wrong!! I wonder are you saying this shit, because you can’t vote and are bitter about it? I understand no one is perfect, but damn get a clue!!!
I know the President is not perfect, but below is some real proof, he is not a actor. Also he has to deal with too many assholes in congress, that don’t want to do their jobs. Well the rest of us, work our asses off!
So here is the real truth about the cuts to seniors :
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/13/1119599/-The-700-Billion-Medicare-Cuts-2-Good-References-for-Rebuttal
Also about the President Job record:
http://money.cnn.com/2012/09/18/news/economy/obama-bush-jobs/index.html
What r U talkin about? Name something im wrong about. If i cant supposedly vote n elections r riggd y would i care? Watch the doc called “The Obama Deception”
Just look above your post and you will see what I am talking about in my last post. Also the president gave the order to kill the asshole who attack this country and you give me some Youtube doc?? He did what Bush could not do, because Bush was too busy having a war with the wrong people over oil. Also The Obama Deception was bullshit. Okay moving on and going back to porn now.
All political candidates are the same. If you think one is “better” than the other, then you are simply uninformed, or negligent of studying—and understanding—U.S. and world history. The two-party system is a sham and a joke, and any debate about the relative merits of either is pointless.
The solution is simple: Stop paying federal income taxes. Vote with your wallet. Cut off the money pipeline, and the bullshit will dry up. If just 10 million Americans stop allowing their taxes to be used for corruption, murder, and the suppression of the truth, then the voice of The People will be heard LOUD AND CLEAR. You can vote all you want, editorialize all you want, petition all you want, but the only thing that has power in this country (and in this world) is MONEY. It takes MONEY to control political power. It takes MONEY to fund wars. It takes MONEY to control the direction of world affairs. It takes MONEY to line the pockets of every pork-barrel politician on the public payroll.
The solution is obvious. Put your balls out there and say NO to federal income taxes. The buck stops here. But you can go ahead and collect your little “I Voted” sticker.
Holy Shit, you’ve just confirmed your pathetic ignorance. PATHETIC! Gave the order, my ass! First of all, where’s the video or photo? The only thing provided was a doctored photo from a photo when he was alive. Somehow feds were able to have a video camera when they kicked in my door in 1999, but no one has got any evidence that he was shot for this historic (and illegal) event. No wonder he was so quickly buried at sea, allegedly. Plus why was he shot when he was supposedly unarmed? And the President doesn’t give orders or have rights to do that. America no longer abides by due process but still why not apprehend him alive, which would’ve been far more valuable, plus he’s innocent till proven guilty. Even FBI’s want list on him did not include 9/11 because in their words there wasn’t enough evidence that he did it. He was dead for about 10 years before he allegedly was killed. French and Arab papers reported he was visited by American agents in a hospital in Dubai 3 months before 9/11. He was dying, on kidney dialysis. You believe like other brainwashed morons that Osama had anything to do with 9/11? How the fuck did he blow those 3 buildings up, including WTC7? Where’s a photo/video of a plane hitting the Pentagon? Where’s photo evidence of the wing marks of the plane that supposedly hit the most guarded piece of real estate on Earth? Provide it and I’ll pay you any amount of money you like or that I can withdraw from my account. Why were pieces of Pennsyvania flight found 9 miles away? Because it was shot down. The official stories are bullshit, just like the magic bullet. Why is there an organization called “Pilots for 9/11 Truth” which says even an expert pilot could not have commandeered those planes like that even with air traffic assistance which they lacked. “Some youtube doc?” What the fuck are you talking about? Its a 2 hour documentary, and why does “youtube doc” make something not credible? And why are you fucking judging something you’ve never seen??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? How do you say it was bullshit if you’ve never seen it?
And Obama ain’t black, he’s half white. Why don’t that make him white? If he’s half black why does that make him black and not white? Why do blacks judge lighter skinned blacks more favorably if not for the racist, I supposed, white gene (blacks have told me this), so enough of this romanticism about black uncle Tom presidents born in Kenya following preachers who say “Fuck America”?
You like Obama coz he’s black? He ain’t black enough! A lot of people felt soooo good that a black president was elected, it was supposed to stand for something, but it was bullshit. Before he was elected he already said he’d uphold Bush’s evil policies, but who the fuck cared to notice. He was black. He promised change. He was running for President. That’s all that mattered. Right?
Okay another stupid ass post, don’t pay federal income taxes now WTF??? The President himself said is black on his census forms. So why go into this again??? Most people in this country are of mixed race, big deal. So moving back to porn now.
I think my earlier post hit a nerve, while moving on now.
Also The Obama Deception was debunked and I will say it again, the movie was bullshit. So people like Alex Jones will make up bullshit all the time. It not the first time, I will disagree with someone on this broad and it will not be the last. Okay back to porn now.
What was debunked? Can you provide one specific point or does saying something is bullshit prove it’s bullshit, especially if you say it more than once? You sound like a true believer. Wank less and research more.
Okay someone is still talking about bullshit and I am over this now. Just like in my earlier post, showing how your earlier statements were wrong about the old people healthcare etc. I do not have to research or prove anything to you, it’s there for everybody to see how stupid that Alex Jones movie was on Youtube and debunked. If you believe, that bullshit that on you. It’s your right and my right to call it garbage!!! So back to porn now.
Nothings anywhere for anyone to see if you can’t point it out specifically.
And you can find on the web from the Washington Times dot com a piece titled “Obama’s real ‘war’ is against the elderly”.
So your still on this shit, even though I showed proof already that you were wrong and you cannot accept it!!! Just move on man, your not voting and don’t like either guy fine. It’s a free country and that your right. So I will not buy your bullshit or right wing crazy talk either. This is my right and I came here for the porn. If you want someone to buy that garbage, you have Fox News and yes the Washington Times! These sites are known for right wing crazies talk and I guess you like those things. Again if you cannot accept or agree with me, that what this country is all about and what makes it great!
Here is the proof that the Washington Times is a right wing paper: http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1569
Even another country Deputy PM, notice how stupid the GOP is:
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/21/14003404-australian-deputy-pm-cranks-and-crazies-in-gop-threaten-us-economy?lite
So here is the real truth about the cuts to seniors :
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/13/1119599/-The-700-Billion-Medicare-Cuts-2-Good-References-for-Rebuttal
Let me point this out again, Alex. Obama appointed the V.P. of Monsanto gentically engineered, cancer causing food corporation to lead the F.D.A. This says EVERYTHING you need to know about Obama, end of story. He thanked Bush for his great service. He upheld The Patriot Act, refused to review the review of Bush’s appointed 9/11 “Who Cares Cheney gave executive stand down orders?” No Blame Commission, etc, etc ad nauseum.
Under Obamacare, health insurance prices keep rising, not falling. That’s no surprise, of course, since the Obamacare legislation was practically written by the health insurance companies. Obamacare is, at every level, a huge victory for the one percent, and a costly tax on the middle class. Fuck Demopublicans and Republocrats.
Okay this is what happens when you can’t vote and your mad at everybody else. I said the President was not prefect and should not have try to work with the right wing so much!!!! He still better than the two face Mitt, I am not going to tell you anything Romney. Okay going back to work now!!
Hey Dummy, I already told you voting’s rigged. Black counties supposedly having voted for Bush? Please! Doesn’t raise either a concern or an eyebrow, huh?
Do you know how many blacks were scrubbed from the roles during the Bush elections? Yes, BLACK people, denied the right to vote.
Barack told Bush, “Thankyou”.
Fuck you and your stupid, obnoxious insults. Should I explain myself once more and maybe it’ll sink in?
So now you are changing the points again and you are calling me stupid??? It was not just the black vote this assholes tried to stop, it was also seniors and latinos too! I do not understand why you keep bring up black people, when it was others too? Even back in the year 2000. Obama knows Bush is a asshole, like the whole world does and even Bush himself knows it deep down. It just like with any other job or in your personal life, you say or do things that are bullshit.
Just like some of your comments, you are making on this blog.
I’m calling you stupid, for one because you keep bringing up irrelevant shit just to insult me. That’s really fucked up. I’m not upset if I can’t vote, if that’s the case, because the elections are rigged anyway. If it was simply a matter of me not being able to vote and preferring one candidate to the other than I’d advocate the candidate I prefer. But you allude to a really fucked up event I went through, within a string of events which put me through absolute satanic hell! And again, no relevance, no relevance, no relevance. Of course you don’t understand why I brought up black voters. Do a search on: “African-American Voters Scrubbed by Secret GOP Hit List” regarding the ’04 election by Greg Palast. The fact that big media won’t touch this speaks volumes upon volumes. Regarding the ’00 election 10s of thousands of voters were illegally scrubbed and 88% of them were black. Obama is 1/2 honkey and 100% donkey. Why one half would automatically be more pro-black versus more pro-white is a dumb assumption.
I gave you facts in my last post. If you don’t like it, that is not my problem. Why do you keep talking about the same shit. If we don’t agree fine. Just move on and stop acting like a bitch!!! This is a porn site.
Facts? U mean opinions. If u think only right wingers have problems with Barrie Soetoro, then thats your faith based stance, just like the deranged fantasy that he gave executive orders to shoot an unarmed guy who’s been dead for over ten years. I give u facts but u ignore em so go back to wanking.
The bitch is back with more stupid ass comments, wtf is wrong with this guy?? You come up with some foolish comments and you can’t understand why people don’t listen to them?? They are not facts and don’t even make any sense. I’ll wait for the next stupid comment, since you cannot help yourself.
Who the fuck do you think YOU are, alex96? You haven’t been here long enough to talk to Jeremy like that you punk-ass bitch. Why don’t you STFU with all your instigational bullshit and read a book on respect and rational debate. Goddamn noob.
HEH HEH HEH , he thinks Jeremy is right wing ! end of credibility !
Who the fuck are you? Just mind your business and shut up, no one was talking to you. I was moving on, until he started acting like a bitch. So go fuck yourself, this is a free country!!!
Travis W not right wing, but a bitch ass!!
I am minding my business. LIB is not your personal playpen where you can piss where you want. You have to earn respect first! Jeremy been a porno actor for almost 15 years. Who the fuck are you again?
Don’t worry about who I am, just move on man! I came to this site for porn fun. So did I ask you any questions?? I did move on from Jeremy and have nothing against him. You should do the same and get over it!!
“Bitch ass”? You’re the black version of white trash.
This post you made proves my point about you, so move on bitch. If you keep acting like one, I will keep calling you one!!! It over now and you look stupid trying to continue this disagreement.
@Alexwhateverfuckingyearyourballsdropped, you showed up here race-baiting on some comments with Mariah Milano. Now you want to get all political and call anyone who disagrees a “bitch?” Here’s some science for you, short-pants: ANYTHING you post as a comment here is subject to scrutiny and rebuttal. If you talk shit, then expect to get a shit storm right back. Check your ass.
Incidentally, this particular post is political in nature, so don’t tell anyone to “stick with porn” in their comments. And you can’t shake off Jeremy even if you try, so get used to it if you want to be a useful participant on this forum.
Well put, 3rd. Anyone with 1/1000th of a brain can figure out that when one resorts to name calling, instead of debating specific points within an ongoing dialogue has conceded defeat. And oh yeah, and sad that 3rd has to point out the obvious, this thread is a political, so back to porn? Huh? I’m glad Clint Obama Eastwood is Alex’s hero, supposedly giving the order to shoot an unarmed man (where’s the video/photo?) supposedly responsible for controlled demolitions of WTC buildings 1,2& 7 and the invisible plane without wings which hit the Pentagon, as well as all the standdown orders of the military that day. Our TVs have created legions of retards and Alex96 is exhibit A, for Ass!
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Third Axis you can shut the fuck up too, no one was talking to you either! You sound like another bitch. I will give my opinion like anyone else on this site and if you do not like it, too bad.
Also Mariah Milano has more heart and smarter than some of you assholes! She knows how to fight and give her point, then move on too! So she has my respect for that, but some of you just act like bitches who can’t disagree and move on to the next story!!
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Wow wtf the bitch keeps talking and cannot stop himself from saying stupid things!!! He can dish it out about someone else in porn etc, but cannot take it. When someone dares to challenge his stupidity , along with his puppets. So I will let your short white ass keep talking, with your dumb shit. I am done with this topic and whatever you say does not matter or apply to me. We don’t even know each other and that’s what makes this so funny. So go ahead dumb ass and keep it up. You look stupid, along with your puppets.
Hey fuck you, you started with the name calling and insults, with your incredibly stupid and low repeated insults that I’m supposedly upset that I can’t supposedly vote. You said that again and again, scumbag. Say bitch to my face, loser/wanker. I have no puppets, here. Third and Origen have disagreed with me about things, but they’re in agreement that you’re a fucking hypocritical, ignorant asshole.
Alexassbackward69 is just another simpleton who will blather without substance for a few weeks, then disappear like bad gas from a meal at a Koreatown food stall. Calling people bitches an’ shit, like a semi-badass. Now it’s on to the “white” thing… Got news for you, punk; Jeremy is more negro than you’ll ever be.
Now go play some video games at your mom’s house, and leave the big thinking to those more qualified.
Third bitch, why are you still talking??? You keep showing how stupid you are with your comments!! Also you know nothing about me. It makes me laugh,especially the video game living with my mom line or the negro line about Jeremy. He like half my size by the way, but you guys are funny. It just shows how much TV you watch and how much of a dumb ass you really are third bitch!!! I make a really good living and have a great life. Just move on man, but thanks for the laugh.
You guys should just give it a rest and get back to focusing on the topic (Romney vs. porn). No one ever wins these intertnet armchair warrior fights. It just degrades into “he said” “she said” shit and totally derails the thread.
Karmafan I agree with you. It is funny, but they are taken it too seriously. The insults have no impact on my life. So I will try and move to back on topic. Thanks man.
Wow, Alex, you’re 11 feet tall, that’s cool. I’m sure I’ll be able to move faster in order to handle such a big target…. beeyatch. Should I Jew Jitsu/ Krav Magda or Jeet Kune Do yo giant ass?
Jeremy that was funny, yes I am tall and fast.
Why don’t you shut the fuck up, asslick96 before Cindi bans your ass. Nobody likes you here. Nobody. You’ve managed to successfully piss off Mariah, me, Jeremy, Third Axis–hell, probably even Rick Madrid wants you gone.
origen01 you shut the fuck up and move on now. I been trying to move on for a while now and you guys won’t do it. Also it’s funny how sensitive you guys are and then try to attack other people. So I will say it again, Mariah has more heart than any of you and knows how to handle a disagreement!! What are you in grade school, that you have to bring in other people? You know your too old for that, so lets move on man. We have the right to disagree and have different opinions. So why would I care if you like me or not, really man??? Okay once again I will try and move on now.
So here is more proof that Romney is a two face liar!!!
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2012/09/21/mitt-romney-calls-usa-a-foreign-country-in-his-tax-returns
Maybe Alex should spearhead Obummer’s re-election campaign: “Bring back Obama or you’re a bitch!”
I like that Jeremy, but people have the right to vote for who they want in November. So if two face Mitt wins, everybody will be in trouble!!!
@Orgien01..Fuck Rick Madrid, that asshole is in South America, shooting for a Playboy Contractor and making more money there then he would here. Fucking assbite!
You’re either being sarcastic, fake roy, or u r rick madid.
Youre so incredibly pathetic n dumb, rick aka peterromeroxxx
And we’ll b in trouble no matter which treasonous puppet wins, alex
Jeremy again it will be worst under two face Mitt. I know it bad out here for some people, but Mitt is a shady ass clown!!!
Its still not too late to vote for Ron Paul, but the Bilderberg Group will make sure the voting machines pick who they’ve chosen, anyway… so make sure you get out there and vote like Grampa Cummings tells ya!
Forty acres and a mule for every Amerikan! Alex gets a pile of horseshit.
Ron Paul is like the rest of them Jeremy at times. He hates gov’t spending, but gets gov’t perks and benefits being in congress. I will say he is a better option than two face Mitt, at least he tells you what he thinks!
The 40 acres must be the 40 places where it hurts but still can’t be fixed because of health and dental care costs and procedures, plus an incumbent mule. And we’re all getting horseshit, right Larry?
The devil gives us two evils to choose from. From all the grass roots activivism I saw, the people chose Ron Paul, which is why the media marginized him (Did you know media is controlled and in a smaller number of hands than ever in history?). He didn’t just talk hope as dope and change as spare change. Those ‘hope’ and ‘change’ slogans were really stupid, anyway.
Jeremy we all get screw by people in congress, who would rather block bills and stay on vacation. They are shit heads who talk about the debt, and are getting paid with benefits for doing nothing on tax payers money.
I know why they don’t want to tax rich, they are rich!!! So this is what is really stupid, people are getting played by people who are suppose to pass bills and don’t care about the average person!!! I know most people like to blame the President, but he knows most of congrss are assholes who don’t want to work for anybody but themselves. This is the real problem, not some slogans. It’s people in congress not doing their jobs and working for who has the most money.
http://www.rollcall.com/issues/57_51/And-Congress-Rich-Get-Richer-209907-1.html
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/12/111th-senate-breaks-one-filibuster-record.php
Third Axis your post about me was so stupid. It’s over now, move on man. The funny part is how much of a fool you are to actually think that post, would bother me. I am living a great life and your words are worthless to me. So if I hurt your feelings with the truth about you, GET OVER IT!!!
I was at Publix on Sunday…the major grocery chain in the south….and it was 10:48 and I was buying a couple of bottles of champagne for mimosas at my brunch I was having. I was told by the 16 year old cashier that alcohol is not permitted to be sold on Sundays until 11am. This is a stupid fucking law but I knew this already because if I want to take the boat out on Sunday I need to stock up on beer Saturday night…but I had forgotten.
When I pronounced my annoyance the little idiot said “Well you can change the law with your vote” and I just looked at her and laughed. She was confused and asked why I laugh and I asked how old she was and she told me she is “almost 18”.
I told her in a perfect world that would be true, but this is not a perfect world and far from it and that she will learn. She gave me that teenager “whatever” eye roll.
It’s not just money as many have said many times in this post. It’s also religion. This is 100% a law based on religious morality of a few being forced onto the masses and its unconstitutional and totally fucked up. But its not as bad as it was when I first moved here. It was 1pm on Sunday then! Yet I can drive 2 miles south across county lines and buy it at 8am.
This is the world we live in and no matter who is president and in office nothing will change. Sick people should get medicine without question but good luck. I have been to the National Hospital in England and there are people laying on gurneys in hallways waiting hours for a doctor to see them. There is minimal care being given and all in the name of putting on a show that anyone gives a fuck.
GE charges you and me $2 for a light bulb yet charges the US government $200 for that very same bulb. What do you think will happen when insurance starts billing the government? As of today if you pay cash at your doctor’s office it’s more than 50% less than what they charge the insurance company.
Eventually this business model will fall into our laps and taxes will be used to pay $95 for a 50 cent band aid.
Our government is corrupt and broken and there is zero difference in the sides anymore. People like Ron Paul will never win. They threaten the people who run everything which are the corporations and the churches.
Untiil we require chruches to pay taxes and not allow them to dictate laws and then remove insurance from national health care it’s all useless!
take that shit to tha bank y’all 🙂
A-Licks has given us a brand new campaign slogan: Just Move On (Bitchass).
Mariah your post was on point accpet for one thing. Ron paul is a fraud too, with some things. You can’t be against something, then use it yourself. So money does rule everything and that’s the problem. The people with the most money use too much of their power and give too little back to this great country.
Here is what I am talking about with Ron Paul:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/20/ron-paul-social-security_n_1612117.html
Sounds like a lot of Hollywood Liberals love the way life is for them right now. Free housing, free food, food stamps, and all the kicking back and sucking the TAX payers cocks. Bitchass Hollywood assholes.
Peter wtf are you talking about, the assholes are in congress and if you want to talk about handouts just look at the big companies or religions who don’t pay taxes!!! Then they want to bitch and complain. These places are the real problem in this country.
Third Axis you are the biggest asshole on this broad. I tried to move on and you keep putting out some stupid ass comments. I am starting to think you really are a bitch ass or insecure.
Well for one thing I can hardly say the guy is a hypocrite considering he has paid into social security for what, 60 years? I think that when you invest in something whether you agree with it or not since it’s required you have every right to be repaid. Considering the guy isn’t a millionaire like every other politician he is entitled to those checks. he paid the money and now he’s being paid back.
Do you know how much Joe Biden donated to charity last year? Under $200. What about Al Gore’s charitable contributions? under $1,000 total since his first job in government.
Hollywood liberals aren’t the only problem. California is the perfect prototype for a leftist government and look at it. Broke to the point of bankruptcy within the next 2 years. Yet Barbara Boxer and Diane Feinstein and Maxine Waters and Jerry Brown continue to be elected over and over. It’s appauling. But clearly more than just Hollywood liberals are voting for them. The state is just seriously lopsided but it proves that those who should be voting to improve their lives aren’t, and those who are voting vote for people and things that do not affect them at all. If you’re super rich you vote your conscience, not your needs and that is what is killing California IMO.
The biggest drain on California money are illegals. Their debt to credit ratio is 7 to 1 meaning they take $7 out for every $1 they put in. Yes they help the labor force but very little of their income returns into the economy. It’s sent tax free back to Mexico via Western Union and they live in squalor and 12 people in 1 bedroom apartments.
Do I have a heart? Yes of course, but at some point California is either going to become a state without industry and very much a 3rd world country with the super wealthy and the extremely poor. It’s nearly there now.
Mariah it not about him earning it, after 60 years. It about him being against social security and then using it himself. This would be a hypocrite!! If you are against something don’t use it, otherwise the person is lying.
Also you are missing the point about congress, they are not doing their jobs and we the taxpayers pay for it!! They will never have a fair tax code, since most of them are rich or are funded by mostly rich people. So why would they really want a tax increase on themselves. This list shows how rich both sides are, but it’s more Republicans on the list below:
http://www.rollcall.com/50richest/the-50-richest-members-of-congress-112th.html
Mariah it not just the left or right , it’s all of them! Also Joe Biden has been in government for over 40 years and he is not rich either.
I am not a big California person, since I am from the east coast. Just remember the little guy always gets screwed, no matter what state you live in this country. Since the tax code is fuck up and wars we are fighting, that are not paid for either. So states have no where to go for money. Then what will some people in politics say, I know we will blame the people who make the least and don’t look like us. This will keep people away from our fuck ups!! Again it the same playbook every year, attack the weak among us to cover up the problems they started.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1868367,00.html
I like these two “bitch-ass” candidates’ slogans…
Obummer: “Forward”… Wow. No more hope or change… forward march through a formerly great nation.
Ramthee: “For A Better Middle Class”… yeah sure.
Better middle class, my ass! Middle and lower class are the same as far as he’s concerned.
This Noveember, Fascism and Flatulent Fat Cats will win. The rest of us will lose.
I can’t wait for November 6th to be over with and all the rich two face lairs go home, but we still have the conservatives assholes in congress. It amazes me how some people believe their bullshit!
Thou shall not choose evil, greater or lesser. Both parties are controlled, back n forth we go. How stupid.
you 2 are whats wrong with this country . its a 2 party system and its GOING TO BE A 2 PARTY SYSTEM, just because its not the way you think it should be is an ignorant reason to not participate “taking my ball and going/staying home”
If you cant see the difference between the 2 candidates , I weep for the future. If you cant see that bama has bad intentions for this country then i weep for you.
As Michael Moore once said, corporations have two parties to represent them. The rest of us have none.
Jeremy, Michael Moore has made some entertaining films but they are filled with his own creations of reality. He doesn’t refuse the millions of dollars from box office and rentals and I’m told he is a hard ass when it comes to negotiating his income from his projects.
Alex, seriously? Ron Paul was REQUIRED to pay into social security under the law so as much as he may disagree with it he was required to pay in to it. So is he supposed to refuse to collect that money back now at 79 years old to prove a point? If he had not paid in to it I would bet he wouldn’t accept it. But 60 years of investment is far different.
And I’m sorry to inform you that Joe Biden is NOT poor by any means and even though he’s been a politician never making more than $200k a year he is a millionaire.
I’m aware of elements of Moore’s hypocrisy, Mariah. I forget which stocks he’s got shares in, and there’s a lot “Moore” to the story than what he’s provided about 9/11. And Biden’s a phony piece of shit, too. I just said BOTH parties are OWNED! Moore still’s made a lot of good points.
Mariah Milano I never said Joe Biden is poor and he is not rich either, compared to a lot of assholes in congress. So he and his wife make a nice living, but I would not call it rich!! When you live and work in the northeast the cost of living is a lot higher.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/13/joe-biden-tax-returns-2011_n_1423681.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-502163_162-4445194-502163.html
Also Ron Paul paying into social security for 60 years is right and I have the right to do the same too. I don’t want some asshole taking that right from me, especially when he had the option of doing it for himself. So that is why he is a hypocrite, just like the rest of the conservatives! I do respect his views on war and foreign aid.
Jeremy I though you would have like Joe Biden?? He seems to talk a lot, just like you do (lol). I like it, when people say what they mean and call out bullshit like JB does in public.
TravisW all I can say is wtf?? You vote for whoever you want, but if two face Mitt wins. We are all in a lot of trouble. He not even a good lair, and always flip flops. Here is what two face Mitt party is offering the country:
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2012/09/21/mitt-romney-calls-usa-a-foreign-country-in-his-tax-returns
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/09/19/875351/republicans-kill-vets-job-bill/?mobile=nc
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/13/1119599/-The-700-Billion-Medicare-Cuts-2-Good-References-for-Rebuttal
http://www.thenation.com/blog/170246/gop-fires-controversial-voter-suppression-operative-he-still-playing-dirty-tricks-califo
http://voices.yahoo.com/gop-attacks-womens-rights-several-fronts-7904244.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/sep/28/todd-akin-ladylike-comment-gop
http://www.salon.com/2012/07/17/gop_filibusters_for_secret_money/
I can go on, but again this party of two face Mitt is the worst period and hopefully you will be weeping November 7th.
Michael Moore has every right to be a hard ass, when it comes to negotiating his income from his projects. Also why would he refuse the millions of dollars from box office and rentals?? Who in their right mind would do that Mariah?? He did the work and earned it. I don’t agree with everything he says, but fat ass projects are more honest then the corporate America assholes!!!
Self-proclaimed Zionist (aka right-wing Judeo-fascist- that’s what Zionism is) Joe Biden, speaking to an international assembly of 1,600 conservative rabbis in Atlanta in May 2012, said that Israel could attack Iran if it so chooses. Said Joe, “Look, we cannot dictate to another sovereign nation what they can and cannot do when they make a determination — if they make a determination — that they’re existentially threatened and their survival is threatened by another country.” Yet, at the same time, Biden declared, “We will prevent Iran from acquiring a nuke by whatever means necessary, period.” Gee, how come an Arab country, like one we’ve bombed repeatedly, such as Iraq, doesn’t have the right to defend itself from the likes of us? Of course, Biden’s statement, ass-licking of Israel’s dirty rectum, as it is, is just as silly, considering that according to the United States, the IAEA, and Israel – Iran isn’t building nuclear weapons. Any Rabbi or Jewish religious person who supports Zionist is the ultimate hypocrite. That’s why Orthodox Rabbis carry signs saying “Zionism and Judaism are diametrically opposed”.
U.S.A…. still Israel’s bitch… and of course, Ramthee too wants war… war… WAR!!!… Both sides are sick, evil whores.
come on alex, Obama has been 2 faced every bit as often. he was adimantly against gay marriage until re-election time was rolling around suddenly he says “I’m evolving in regards to it” yeah, in his 50s and attending a very extreme baptist church for the last 20 years and suddenly he’s evolving? Puh-lease. black churches are VERY anti-gay marriage. If you look at the California vote a few years ago the black vote was nearly 90% against it and many blame not having their support the reason it failed.
Joe Biden is a moron. He mis-speaks more than George Bush did. He has said more stupid shit than just about anyone running for office. Remember when he told the story how just the day before he stopped into Katie’s Diner where he has eaten breakfast for 25 years to talk with his friends…but he forgot to check that Katie’s diner closed in 2007. He is full of shit.
I don’t want war any more than you do, but it’s coming. I have a member of my site who is in Iraq now working for a black water type security firm and they are gearing up for Iran. They have started training and already have their pre-emptive plans. he tells me it’s gonna happen as soon as November. It’s coming and it’s gonna be severe.
And Michael Moore has every right to that money, except he is anti-capitalism and anti-free market which is exactly how his films make money. He also is a major stock holder in many companies, which he is also very much outspoken against to the point of making an anti-capitalism film yet stuff his pockets with the money earned from it. He’s yet another blow hard hypocrite “Do as I say not as I do”
And if you think anything will be different with Romney than it is now you’re crazy.
Jeremy, Iran has more than once stated that they are going to wipe Israel off the earth. That is as good a declaration of war as it gets. Hitler wasn’t taken seriously for years either and even pacifists like Paul McCartney have said that some things cannot be dealt with by anything more than force.
LOL
Mariah, like most people in the US you are misinformed when it comes to middle-eastern issues. Here is what Israel Deputy Prime Minister admitted this year:
“[Iran’s leaders] all come basically ideologically, religiously with the statement that Israel is an unnatural creature, it will not survive. They didn’t say ‘we’ll wipe it out’, you are right, but [that] it will not survive, it is a cancerous tumor, it should be removed;”
Read the whole article, you’ll find out that things are not as black/white or good/evil as most people Americans believe.
http://blogs.aljazeera.com/blog/middle-east/rare-admission-israel
Mariah let’s start with Joe Biden first, he is not president. So you are comparing him to a asshole that stole the election in 2000 and got us into wars that were not paid for with the wrong country. How the gas prices working out for us, I guess the war for oil work out right??? This was George Bush biggest scam job, on this country. Also giving tax breaks that were not paid for either?? Then people wonder why this country is almost broke?? So what is the easy way out, blame this President who has to clean up his mess.
I will take Joe Biden as vice president, any day of the week!!! Mariah did you notice, I said vice president. He can say all the dumb shit he wants, because he is not president.
So I have to agree with Jeremy with some of his points about Israel and Iran. How the fuck can we get into another war???
Mariah would you to open your eyes with this one. If Israel was really our friend, why don’t they start acting like it. We give them billions of dollars, then we have people complain if the government does anything for our own citizens?? Take a look at how much foreign this country is giving:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4101134,00.html
So would you send your own son, to a war where again we were not attack?? How would you feel about a friend who you gave money too and supported, turn around and stab you in the back?? I don’t blame Obama one bit for not meeting with Israel prime minster last week. He acting like a asshole and everybody knows it. You don’t talk shit and then expect your so call friend to bail you out, when you can’t handle it yourself!
I don’t have anything against the Jewish people and they do have the right to defend themselves. Why is it the USA always has to be the one to get involve? When you watch CNN and other news last week, they always want to say something about not knowing where Obama stands with the Israel?? So are they fucking serious, what more do they want this country to do??
Also I have family fighting right now in the army oversees. They are tried and want to come home. So I do not want to hear about some black water type security firm Mariah, who gets ten times the amount of a regular soldier talking about Iran. They have had enough of this shit!!!
Ahmadinejad has repeatedly said that his remark was misinterpreted. And how the fuck is Iran gonna wipe Israel off the Earth? Israel is stocked piled high with Nikes and Iran’s got none. :p You can’t pull no Neo-Conjob on me!
Whoops, ha, I mistyped that… stocked piled high with Nukes, not Nikes.
And since when do we need an alleged threat as an excuse to bomb civilians? All we needed to nuke Iraq were some falsified documents on WMD programs, a murdered British weapons inspector, and an American weapons inspector set up with a bogus underage date at McDonalds, who both indepenently declared Iraq had no capacity or materials to make nuke. How pathetic we continue to by the bullshit from these genocidal liars through their servant corporate media!
Mariah are you really serious trying to compare the asshole to Obama on one issue of gay marriage??? I will give you he changed his mind and the black churches were against it, but guess what so was the white churches down south!! I will say it again comparing Obama to asshole two face Mitt, is like comparing you to Mercedes Ashley saying both of you are latin pornstars. This is not true and neither is you saying there is no difference between the two of them!! If you open your eyes. It’s clear, who is working for some of us and all of us.
So Mitt will be lying in the debates this month and some people will buy it. When you can see bullshit, you know when someone is a fraud!! I will give Mitt credit for one thing, he told the truth about how he really felt about most of the country. So now he is saying he cares about 100 percent of the country now WTF??? It’s like you saying you never did porn movies and we have you on porn sites fucking, come on Mariah!! You defending this asshole does not make sense baby.
Jeremy do you ever discuss your beliefs with the mother of your unborn child?
Yes, Walter, although my beliefs/opinions mean nothing without the information I’ve come across which has lead me to them. The main problem with American children, both young n old, is that we are taught what to think, but not how to think.