Duke: Explaining AIM Closure, Porn Wikileaks
from http://www.xbiz.com/news/136687
By Diane Duke, FSC Executive Director
Monday, Jul 25, 2011 Text size:
CANOGA PARK, Calif. — During the first part of April, the Free Speech Coalition began to receive calls from worried industry members about the existence of Porn Wikileaks.
At that point, it was still unclear from where the information came, as there was what looked like medical information as well as 2257 information. Soon we learned that it was likely that AIM’s database had been hacked and that some 2257 records may have also been compromised.
Almost simultaneously, I learned, from a conversation I had with AIM CEO Sharon Mitchell, that AIM’s clinic “temporarily” was closed due to a “paper work issue.” Apparently, L.A. County had closed the clinic based on a filing technicality. I was assured by Sharon that the paperwork issue would soon be resolved, that the database was still up and the draw stations were still active. Sharon assured me that the AIM clinic would reopen.
Almost immediately thereafter, AIM was sued by two individuals for breach of medical records. I learned that the litigation expenses for individuals suing AIM were covered by AIDS Healthcare Foundation.
AHF has been attacking the adult industry with frivolous lawsuits, Cal/OSHA and labor complaints as well as protests and misleading inflammatory press conferences for the past two years. AHF has been especially relentless in their attack on AIM.
Meanwhile, FSC staff met with producers, agents, talent and attorneys to discuss industry options for combating PornWikileaks. We discussed what channels we could go through to get it taken down and if there were criminal implications for those directly involved in procuring and posting federally protected data.
We agreed that we would need additional information for any action and sent an announcement out to the industry asking anyone who was impacted by PornWikileaks (PWL) to contact us and give us the information. We contacted the FBI and began working with them with two goals in mind.
The first goal was to get the site taken down and to ensure that it was down permanently. The second goal was to prosecute the monsters who launched these personal and illegal attacks on adult industry professionals.
The next information that I received — just as everyone else in the industry did–was that AIM was closed for “remodeling.” This did not make any sense to me, if the clinic had been closed by the county, why AIM would extend that closure for “remodeling?” Sharon had also confided in me during our last conversation that AIM was in financial trouble so I doubted that it had the money to remodel anything. I tried to contact Sharon Mitchell to find out what was happening but she didn’t return my calls.
I knew that FSC’s Board Chair Jeffrey Douglas had been working pro-bono for AIM for the past two years and I called him to ask him if he would ask Sharon to call me. I knew he couldn’t and wouldn’t discuss any AIM issues with me because he was bound by attorney-client privilege.
I think it important at this time to note that Jeffrey’s involvement with AIM was around 1st Amendment and patient privacy issues only and that Jeffrey had nothing to do with AIM moving into a for-profit business model nor any of AIM’s bankruptcy dealings. Jeffrey’s time was strictly voluntary and did not involve the business operations of AIM.
I told Jeffrey that I was concerned about AIM’s struggle and that I thought it would be a good idea to hold an industrywide meeting to discuss “what-if” AIM did not survive scenarios. He agreed and FSC held meetings with performers, agents and producers on Friday, April 29, at the Skirball Center.
We asked these industry professionals if they would want FSC to step in and find replacements for AIM’s services should AIM close. There was a clear consensus from the group that they would like FSC to spearhead the program if need be and everyone gave input to potential program components.
The following Monday I received a call from Sharon Mitchell stating that AIM was closing and filing for bankruptcy. She asked me not to mention anything about the bankruptcy for legal reasons. AIM did not announce that they were closing and the “Closed for remodeling” statement was still up on their website Tuesday.
Because of the tremendous implications to the industry, FSC announced AIM’s closure in a press release Tuesday, May 3. Clearly FSC was and is a completely separate entity from AIM and under normal circumstances would not consider it appropriate to make announcements for another organization but, due to the extraordinary circumstances and lack of communication from AIM, we announced the closure.
When a bankruptcy occurs, everything in the organization is seized by the courts. However, in order for the FBI to compile the information it needed, it would have to spend significant time going through the database to look for signs of breaches. Because Jeffrey Douglas had worked pro-bono for AIM he was able to volunteer his time to gather information critical in reaching the goals of taking down PWL and prosecuting those involved. Time was of the essence and the information had to be gathered before the bankruptcy proceedings began. Jeffrey spent a full day with the FBI at AIM , collecting data and helping agents shore up their case.
Since that time, FSC has continued to work with the FBI — investigators from both the cyber-crimes division and the medical privacy division. FSC also provided the FBI with information it had gathered from industry professionals and we introduced them to Michael Whiteacre who had been working on getting PWL down and was able to provide them with additional information.
FBI agents asked that we not disclose that we were working with them until they were able to gather the information needed for the successful prosecution of anyone who committed a crime. Deciding, temporarily, to withhold information was a difficult decision to make. Ultimately, it came down to the simple truth that stopping the website will not stop the people, but stopping the people will not only stop the website, but also stop the potential for future attacks by these same individuals.
Once the information was gathered, a letter could be sent from AIM’s bankruptcy trustee asking the hosting company to shut the PornWikileaks site down, stating that PWL is under federal investigation. If the hosting company did not comply, the FBI was ready to send a follow-up letter requesting the site be taken down. They said that hosting companies always comply with such requests. The FBI had gathered the information it required and the letter was to be sent out last week. But due to the work of a group of creative hackers, the site already had been taken down.
The FSC will continue to work with the FBI to make sure the monsters that illegally and brutally violated the privacy and rights of adult industry performers, and other adult industry professionals, are brought to justice. Special thanks to Jeffrey Douglas for the days and weeks devoted to this work and to the folks who got the site taken down.
AIM is closed and gone, but there is a great deal to learn from the AIM experience, both good and bad. First, despite its shortcomings, AIM provided a valuable service to this industry for a number of years and it is important to acknowledge its accomplishments.
At this point, I would like to clarify a few points. First, neither FSC nor Jeffrey Douglas has any connection, power, control or input on anything that has to do AIM. I have heard that part of AIM’s database is still active. It is my understanding that if you had a test done at AIM and the link to that test was sent to you electronically, that link will still work and give you the results for that specific test taken at that point in time. I have no idea why AIM’s trustee would still have that portion of the database active — perhaps to allow patients access to their records.
Concerns about this issue or any other issue that has to do with AIM can be taken up with their Trustee at the Law Office of David Hagen 16830 Ventura Blvd., Suite 500, Encino, CA 91436-1795. He can be reached at (818) 990-4416 or go4broq@earthlink.net.
This week, FSC will launch the Adult Production Health and Safety Services (APHSS) designed to fill in the gaps left by the closure of AIM.
Rather than providing one clinic or site, APHSS will use existing testing facilities and doctors to provide quality testing and treatment to performers at a reduced rate. Performers will have the variety they want, and the industry will not have to worry about the AHF’s of the world closing down our services.
The program will provide a database for producers, agents, and performers to check performer availability. However the database will not contain medical information or personal information. The database will contain only the performer’s legal name and “available until,” so that producers can see if the performer has a current test and that he/she is clean and available to work.
This will provide the producers/performers with the back-up they need to confirm that tests brought to the set are legitimate. Performers will still be able to have access to their test results directly from the testing site. And producers and agents will not have the liability associated with keeping performer medical records.
APHSS must be responsive to the industry it serves or it is destined to fail from the beginning. We have created an advisory board consisting of performers, producers, agents, a medical consultant and a workplace safety attorney. We have selected the initial board to get the program off the ground but once in place the program participants will elect their own representatives. This group will review and revise the program on an ongoing basis to make sure that it meets the needs of the adult production industry.
If we have learned nothing from what happened with AIM we have learned the problems that come with poor communication. AIM sorely fell short in this respect and frankly, it has not been my strongest attribute either. The FBI asked us to hold off talking about PWL and to tell you the truth, I waited too long to tell this story.
Looking forward, I will commit to writing more of these communication pieces as issues arise. In the meantime, if you have any questions or wish to contact me directly, I can be reached at diane@freespeechcoalition.com
Actual crimes committed by PWL: 0
Sure they can be sued, but obviously FSC and others are still whining about possible takeover by AHF (which I do not support).
Even if the database was not hacked, and people just spilled beans as that is how a lot of other data after the primary source was gathered, that is also NOT illegal.
Is it a privacy violation to reveal someone’s address when you have their real name and a publicly sold address book (i.e. yellow pages)? NO In general? NO (unless ordered by government) Can you be sued for revealing a location while under NDA? YES (and that does not really apply in any case)
Can the industry sue those involved who put such information on-line? YES (but that’s because this is SueSA)
By the way, I have said nothing about medical privacy laws.
And I do not support what PWL did but I would not rather see their site down to enforce some version of ‘free speech’ as the FSC sees fit.
Why doesn’t someone create a site called donkeyleaks dot com and it can play that leaky ass close-up p.o.v. scene (now, that’s a sad job if i’ve seen one- being the cameraman of that), as well as some of the more amusing shit that’s leaked out of his diarrhea mouth and keyboard warrior finger tips. Are we “jellious” now, Donkey Corleone?
It irritates the fuck out of me that those guys are making it look like they took down PWL when they didn’t have much involvement.
Well look who we have here My Jeremy Steele. I been meaning t have words with you, talking shit about me on one of these Luke Is back posts. Ya fucking creep. Sitting back here steady posting and making comments but did shit about Donny. Let me go and finsd the damn posts where I think you said something about me and the HIV incident or you told me to shut up and Porn Wikileaks. I will be back to handle your ass when I find it. Look out for me. I have to put my foot up your ass (publicly via posting everywhere maybe reaching out to you on Twitter) real quick for saying dumb shit about me. Hang tight little buddy.
By the way if this is The Jeremy Steele that I worked with bck in the day. You were a shitty fuck and I hated fucking your ass.
LMAO Add FSC to the list of bull shyters
Getting ready to read a rabid defense by Lucky…
No, Merecedes, by all means. Everyone’s entitled to speak their mind.
You truly are an idiot, Mercedes. First of all, I was going to testify against Tara Akinlose in her lawsuit against you, Michael and Monica because of what she’s said and done to me and that would’ve done a lot for your case. I’m better with words and honesty than you are. Secondly, the only time you and I worked together was when I hired you for a b/g with me for my ex roommate, the lawyer. You’re just making shit up about my performance just like with Donkey’s “HIV+” test. You were the one who was a cunt to me, calling me “asshole” because I asked you to not be texting me at 3AM or 6AM waking me up about your escort services or whatnot. That was uncalled for, just as it was uncalled for to sink to Donkey’s level, harrass his family and forge a fake HIV+ test. You call that “ghetto”. No, it’s just as stupid and low as the donkey and you think that somehow made him your “bitch”. You started this, Ashley by calling me “asshole” when I asked you to stop waking me up with your generic texts. “Hated fucking my ass”… stop being ignorant, stupid and psychotic. Save your hate for someone who’s really done something to you and stop sinking to Donkey lying levels. You’ve proven that you’re not an honest person and you’re proud of that “ghetto” quality in yo’ language, as well. Grow up.
And jet tits, Lucky and I are not together, anymore.
Jeremy, have you ever been thrown off set before – because of your actions towards others? You are so quick to excuse your responsibility in all the drama that always seems to follow you. Many people hate working with you; and for good reason. This is why you rarely work in the industry anymore.
Tatsh you are a complete idiot. The points you are discussing are not even close to the big issues of what made PWL so dreadful. How do you think posting pictures of children alongside racism and pornographic material is going to hold up? People like you abuse the concept of free speech and end up hurting the freedoms of others.
Also, you speak of people spilling their beans AFTER the primary data was acquired. Funny, because i am sure that the primary data was NOT acquired legally.
I doubt anyone is going to help out PWL or any of the people affiliated with the site. Anyone who was/is a part of PWL should NOT be forgiven until justice is served.
No Roy, I haven’t. And you shouldn’t be throwing stones for imaginary crimes considering your history. You know Roy, you told me yourself. I never did anything but good scenes for you. I did my fucking job and then I’d go home or drop your talent off at your place and then left. It wasn’t until I offered to type for you that you lost your fucking mind and then started attacking me on the internet. You have some serious issues, Roy. God knows I was only trying to help, but you, as you try to fuck with others, thought I was doing the same to you. It’s really sad. I thought you were actually a cool guy when I first knew you and was booked by you a bunch of times. Now look at yourself, “bigdickdaddy”. It never had to be this way, Roy. You didn’t need to make so many enemies. Girls were not obligated to fuck you because you represented them and then go figure they left you. You didn’t have to threaten so many women and terrorize their families like a donkey would.
By the way, I never said I agreed with the posting of racist comments, pictures of children alongside, etc. No, that should not really happen, but the thing is it is hard to say they cannot legally do it. It is a very technical thing to me. And racist comments? Bad but still currently legal in the US. You watch Louis CK?
There was also a lot of chatter on the site (I never really participated but read) about AIM’s database not being securely closed up, with being to do things like know a URL and share it without logins, and industry insiders sharing passwords they were not supposed to (when these logins were supposed to cost money). Who is really to blame here?
Additionally, Mercedes… you’re a liar about having any issues with me EVER, before I asked you to stop texting me at ungodly hours and your “asshole” response for me DARING to ask you to stop. My God, what fucking audacity on my part, right Mercedes?
You… had… me… on… your… agency site (as talent, not for escort)… for… years… If you had any issues with me (after I got you a fucking job with me) you would’ve never been rep’ing me for years. STOP… THE… LYING! And you never fucked my ass, either… yeah, I know you were only speaking ghetto when you said that… please stop that, as well.
Oh wait, RodRoy. Yeah, I know the game you’re playing.. Amber Lynn’s set, forgot that. Somebody who I was booked to do a b/g scene was on drugs as the P.A. told me- the same person who a benefit was created for her yet she still trashes the industry. I left to avoid problems while Amber was already running around like a raving lunatic sceaming at everyone. Stop your games Roy. You just can’t stop, can you? Well, I’ll fish out some more Roy Garcia links then about new people never mentioned and you’ll say it’s been addressed already.
You’re not fooling anyone as JROD, Roy. It doesn’t matter how many other people trash you and the multiple accusations from different women at different times, you’ll never say anything bad about yourself, and will insist that you have a “career” doing p.o.v. and that that matters most and makes you a better human being than me… right “JROD”?
That’s right. People who don’t “give a fuck” about lying, sinking too scumbags’ levels and being “ghetto” are only hurting their own credbility (as well as others on their side regarding the Tara Akinloser suit).
Nice job!
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whoops, “too” should read “to”
Super Sleuth Sean, try to figure out if Roy, JRod and BDD are the same guy. I know its only 3 aliases as opposed to my 30, 40, 500…whatever amount of aliases I used on PWL.
Yeah, Roy is BigDickDaddy. Another failed talent/director turned pimp/scumbag. He’s down near Sandy Eggo repping girls who have to do him to get work. He failed out of porn valley because of his exploiting girls and extortion tactics. I hope you guys nail him to the cross. All he’s good for these days is threats on the blog pages. Fuck his racist, anti-semetic, fat ass up.
I second Larry’s motion but I’m sure “BDD”/RG/PR/”JRod” won’t third it. We should all remember how persistently malicious “BDD” was to many industry people for many years, long before PWL. Before there was the Donkey, he was the original sociopathic, outcast jackass.
Here’s a deal for ya, Sean. Because my issues with Mercedes are trivial compared to my issues with Tara and Roy, I promise, from this point on, to have a truce and to use all my power (and honesty) to making sure she, Michael and Monica get as much of a settlement as possible off Tara Akinlose. I will testify in court, be plenty prepared and I’ve got plenty to say in regards to what she’s done and it will seriously hurt her and help you. All I ask is to identify “BDD” and “JRod”… and this is on behalf of the industry he has been maliciously trashing with his childish across the board vendettas for years! This will confirm for everyone else what I and others already know.
To Jeremy,
Mercedes Ashley is far from “ghetto” and she’s about as credible as they come because she FOLLOWS THROUGH and does NOT GIVE UP.
Mercedes is a business woman who’s far more successful than most realize who calls it as she witnesses it.
I’ve found many people like to use the word “ghetto” to describe a person, place or thing when they’re intimidated due to either cultural difference or are trying to maintain a false facade themselves.
Monica, “ghetto” is what Mercedes used in her own bulk email to describe herself. If you don’t believe me, I’ll forward it to you. She also said that in regards to being “ghetto” and sinking to Donkey’s level that she “don’t give a fuck”… and insisted that was the way to teach him a lesson and make him her “bitch”. You also told me yourself and agreed with me, Monica, that you thought her being involved with doctoring a false “HIV+” test on Donkey was fucked-up and that you disagreed with it. I also believe, considering what you’ve gone through, that you’d also be against her attacking innocent family members, as well.
Yes, I did disagree with it Jeremy, however she had to do what she felt she had to do in a VERY unfair and slanderous fight to begin with.
Again Mercedes is NOT ghetto (you of all people should know about fine tuning a certain image when marketing yourself) and you need to drop it and see this woman for who she is – someone strong, independent and who doesn’t need someone else to fight her battles.
Oh and one more thing Jeremy – being that you’re someone who can’t keep a private conversation I had with you off this forum, I’ll keep that in mind if I communicate with you any further.
I’ll try my best not to mention anything about anyone you’re trying to maintain a good working relationship with who enjoys wardrobing adults like children for their “features”.
Wow, Monica. You came on here first on my case instead of calling me when you could have, so I’m confused. Again, I didn’t call Mercedes “ghetto”. She called herself that. She also called me an “asshole” because I called her once asking her to stop texting me at ungodly hours. She never had issues with me before and used to represent me on her site but now she’s talking shit (lying- saying she hated working with me when she rep’ed me for years on her site). And I’m sorry you think I’m betraying you in some way. Common sense should indicate you’d be against attacking peoples’ families, as it happened to you. She’s already done this and your opinion is irrelevant to the case you have against Tara. If you want to keep things private, then why did you go on LIB to chastise me as if I brought up the word “ghetto” instead of calling me (you have my number)? Also, when I told you about something that my ex said you made a public issue out of it, which hurt both of us. She asked you not to go public with it and talk it out privately but then you did it anyway. Then I told you how I felt and your response was “I’m going to pretend I never read this email”. I completely understand your feelings and I’ve realized it was a big mistake telling you that. Michael Whiteacre already asked me if I would be willing to testify in the Akinlose suit and I told him I’d be happy to, so if Mercedes is such a strong woman that she doesn’t need my help, I’m sure my help couldn’t hurt the cause, overall. All I’ve ever been is nice to you, Monica. But again, now you’re attacking and attempting to indirectly hurt me and this is not the first time.
To Jeremy:
1) Don’t tell me I could have called you in regards to this issue when you could have done the same.
2) Maybe Mercedes did “hate” working with you and chose not to say anything at the time. Who are you to say that her feelings are a “lie”?
3) Mercedes’ family was MAJORLY attacked – she has CHILDREN. You can not compare anything she’s done to what has been done to her since early this year.
4) As far as you being “chastised” by me – stop being so dramatic. You enjoy arguing but don’t enjoy looking in the mirror.
5) The only one making a public issue about you and your ex, is you and your ex. You emailed me asking that I EDIT my post on LIB to her of which I stated the time and date of when I shot that video footage of you because you said it would make you a liar in your ex’s eyes and I didn’t because (a) the time frame to edit had expired and (b) why should I LIE on your behalf? You’re a grown man.
If someone uses a racial slur to describe me then yes, I will confront them about it. Why hide that you like to use the term “nigger” to describe someone you’ve never met if you feel confident about it?
6) I think you should testify in regards to Tara if the situation that occurred between you and she is valid and truthful. Why are you using your testimony as a dangling carrot / leverage? It should be a given.
7) I’m not attacking you and I’m not asking for nor do I require you to be “nice” to me. In fact if you want to measure “niceness” considering the video piece I created featuring yourself ALONG with all the drama I had to endure after I posted it – I’d have to say that your level of “niceness” was definitely reciprocated by myself.
I’ll continue to respect you a performer, and I’ll leave it at that.
I didn’t have the issue first, Monica. You did. Why sould I have called first when I had no issue until after you made yours public? And Mercedes made issue with me already, Monica, too. You keep ignoring this point I keep making: She called herself “ghetto”. Don’t fuckin attack me! This was out of the bag. You come in defending her in her favor without knowing any facts, whatsoever. You seem to act like I am addressing her as “ghetto” when she was doing that herself. What’s with the “Maybe Mercedes didn’t like working with” shit? If you’re into “maybes”, how about “Maybe she did like working with me, or never had any problem with it, which would logically explain why I was on her site for years, after?”. I am fully in sympathy and outraged in whatever ways Donkey attacked her. It shouldn’t be hard to imagine why I might feel that way. I have no problem looking in mirrors, but I also recognize that to at least some fine degree all the mirrors are funny mirrors.
My ex and I broke over what she had said about you, ok? So obviously it bothered me, not just you. I was shocked by it, and should’ve kept it to myself, but obviously, I didn’t, which was a mistake. When she and I had got back together you first said without me asking about it, that you are happy for us, and forgive her for all that. I was happy to hear it and it was sincere when you said it. But then when her name was brought up prior to our video interview you blurted out loud into the neighborhood that you really didn’t appreciate her using the ___ word! So obviously, the forgiveness gave way to different feelings. Then you make this a public issue. What happened to the forgiveness you had? I’m curious. But keep in mind I’m not mentioning this to justify my posting on LIB, because, again, I had no idea you had issue with my having issues with Mercedes attacking me. This has nothing to do with you, Monica, so why the fuck are you attacking me? I’m not asking you to “LIE” on my behalf. I asked you to keep these matters not for public consumption. I can’t answer for what she said or did, but asked you not to make this a public issue. Please tell me whether or not you’d be willing to make all your imperfections public and have to answer them to the rest of the world? I am not using testifying as “leverage”. The simple matter is that two of the three defendents in this case have now personally attacked me in numerous ways. This makes things worse for Mr. Whiteacre as well as the case, overall, because if Mercedes says of herself that she is “ghetto” and doesn’t “give a fuck” and “sinks to the level” of scum like Donkey, that taints the purity of those who have not made any false claims or committed any acts that others may have issue with. This is NOT a matter of “dangling”. What do you mean you’ll continue to respect me as a performer. You need to look more at life and those around you with less prejudicial eyes (not racially).. in other words, don’t judge before you hear my side. You’ve already determined what’s what apparently. I’m sorry to discover that you have issues because I thought it was pretty cool what we did so far, but from this point, I will have to bow out from having anything to do with you, from this point, forward. Goodluck.
Germy Steele,
You’re even more fucked up and stupid than I thought. Once you get fixated on some bullshit, no amount of evidence or testimonial can change your mind. You were a piece of trash that I threw away years ago and forgot. I wasn’t even reading LIB until I was informed that you are attacking me and spreading bullshit and lies about me on LIB message board on a daily basis, all because you had some beef with some BDD guy and you heard from someone who heard from someone else that BDD is Roy Garcia, and you immediately picked up on that rumor. That’s when I had to come on here and respond to you, and now that you have some beef with JRodman, you think that’s also me, based on no evidence and no testimonial whatsoever, so every time that you argue with JRodman, you bring up my name and insult me. You just made up some shit in your demented head and are convinced it’s true. Did you ever asked yourself why would I need to create aliases to attack you on a porn message board when I come on here and post under my real name? Do you even realize how crazy that is? But that shouldn’t surprise me, because you’re this weirdo who believes in alien conspiracies and is convinced that earth quakes and storms are caused by a doomsday machine owned by the secret government. If you were 20 years old, that would have been justifiable, but when a 42 year old man believes in such stuff and behaves this way, it’s just stupid, shameful and wrong on so many levels. Get a life or die trying, Germy Steele.
It’s amazing you keep coming back Roy Romero.
Are you trying to win this battle that you can’t?
Uh… what about all those different women from different times saying the same thing about you? This requires believing the most insane conspiracy theory ever thought of. So how do you explain it? Oh yeah, you won’t. You said you addressed it already, which his like saying you addressed one burglarly charge when multiple burglaries have been reported by multiple people.
You started this Roy, as yourself with the top 10 reasons Belladonna cried list, where you listed me being 5 of the reasons, without explanation and for no reason. There never was any incident whatsoever between me and her or you and me (except when I offered to type for you), nor has there ever been between me and her. You started this, then continued it as BDD, over and over, repeating yourself. Repeatedly attacking Wankus because he made fun of you once (well, you did send a picture of your dick and bragged how you make girls audition… of course making them have sex with you couldn’t mean rape, right?)
You’ll never win, Roy. Spiegler was armed with the truth. The Donkey with malicious lies. And the difference is the same between you and I. I would never taint the ugly truth of what you are with lies but the only thing you’ve been conjuring up about me are lies: that I supposedly kissed Belladonna after she licked 10 guys assholes. That you supposedly booked me in countless scenes where I suck and fuck cock, although not a gay soul in the world such as yourself can not find it. You say I’m on welfare.. on and on and on… and of course all those girls from different times saying the same things about are lying about you, right, Roy? You’re only fooling yourself, fool!
Oh, btw, the “mirrors”, I was referring to, are each of us… we are all each mirrors to one another reflecting what we put out, but our own deformities, etc., affect the image we reflect back out, that’s what I was trying to say… and we are all to at least a slight degree and/or in our own way, “funny mirrors”… some funnier than others… in fact the biz seems to attract a few who’s nutty-to-slutty ratio is way off kilter, in the wrong direction.
Come the fuck on, Germy Steele, answer these questions:
1. I told you several times that the reason I cut you off was your irrational behavior and complaints I received from the girls who at the time I was representing and had bad experiences of working with you, most notably Belladonna. The typing incident that you keep on repeating, even if it happened which I don’t remember and don’t care about, had nothing to do with anything. Why don’t you contact Belladonna and ask her why she had a bad experience of working with you and what was her problem with you? That way, you can also verify the gangbang kissing story that she told me and I said to you. What prevents you from contacting Belladonna and making an effort to settle things with her instead of going on porn message boards and mouthing off like a mad man?
2. Have you ever had any contact with any of the girls who claim have been abused by me, or do you keep on repeating what you have read on the internet and add your own delusional bullshit to it?
3. Have you seen the email that Wankus claims received from me? Has he forwarded that email to you, or you just repeat his lie and add your own delusional bullshit to it?
4. Exactly based on what actual, real evidence you claim that I’m BDD? Notice that the key here is actual, real evidence, no guesses, no speculations, no NYPD Blue style gut feelings, just plain actual, real evidence.
5. Exactly based on what actual, real evidence you claim that I’m JRodman? Again, the key here is actual, real evidence. Nobody cares about your delusions and gut feelings.
I know you won’t be able to give a convenient answer to any of these questions, so you’ll keep on repeating your rants like the bizarre idiot that you are. I’ve got news for you, Germy Steele, nobody gives a shit about your rants, so you can go fuck yourself.
You can repeat your lies as much as Donkey has about Spiegler, Roy. You’re not fooling anyone.
I never behaved irrationally on any set you booked me on, liar, just like I never got booked by you in scenes where I’m sucking and fucking cock. In 2000 You booked me for lots of $500 LFP b/g mag jobs in advance and I was always on my best behavior.
There’s no need for me to contact Belladonna as we’ve never had an issue whatsoever with each other.
You talk about proof? We have different girls testifying about their experiences with you and your evil behavior. Belladonna has never said anything about your claims. That is a fact, as it never happened. The gangbang kissing story is idiotic, just as you are. The first thing Belladonna did in the scene was lick 10 or so guys’ assholes. Now you claim I tried to kiss her which made her complain and you never hire me again despite me always doing good scenes. You’re an idiot.
On the other hand, numerous girls from numerous times have complained that you try to make them fuck you and then when they drop you as an agent you threaten and/or act on the threat of terrorizing the performer’s families. They have publically made theses statements, and just like I will provide a notorized statement for the court in regards to the Tara Akinlose lawsuit, that will be taken into account as evidence. Wankus comment on LIB (“IS Roy Garcia “BigDickDaddy”?) counts as testimony, stupid. It certainly counts as proof more than anything you say about Belladonna. Certainly she never made any claims about me that I tried to kiss her, stupid.
You’re obviously guilty but think you can behave like O.J. or Casey Anthony and fool some fools out there.
approve my last comment already, Cindi, it’s been two hours already, lol.
Ok, TwigDickDummy, let’s get this straight.
You claim that:
a. Multiple girls being quoted on line about you are all bullshit.
b. Your claim about Belladonna which was never quoted by her is true and I need to actively go out there interview her and ask her to answer something that she’s never been publically quoted as saying.
HaHaHaHaHa.. STUPID!
Hahahahaha
The breakfast club comes apart at the seams.
I’m going to have to side with Mercedes here. You know, tits and ass and all.
Fartz – Porn in CA is one big high school, complete with cliques and rivalries. Put any three participants in a room, and within five minutes of speaking to each other they’ll discover that they all have as many mutual friends as they do mutual enemies. Then the re-alignment begins… It’s always been that way.
Ha, to say porn is High School is a bit of an insult. It’s closer to Jr. H.S., where kids were overwhelmed at times by their burgeoning hormones… but then again, that’s an insult, too, to pubescent middle schoolers.
As usual, let’s get back to the article at hand. FSC can’t come out against PWL and the theft of AIM’s database. That would be like joining our lawsuit lol 😉
I wonder how FSC plans on protecting performers information from hacking again when you have these slugs hanging around in the industry. No matter who you think you can trust in porn, when these guys get access to that information, they will be passing out the access codes again just like before.
And who’s to stop the stalkers and bullies who are also producers from gaining access??
Face it, if you sign your information over to this industry, you will run the risk of being attacked again, just like PWL. Read the forums and blog comments. Read the comments on this very blog. Do you want these people having access to your home address, your social security number, your drivers license information again?? Giving it to FSC is EXACTLY the same as giving it to AIM. PWL wasn’t new behavior and XPT is still here.
They’ve been in my credit reports, my taxes, my employment, my family, my entire life. That’s what happens when you give these people your personal information!! Trolls are trolls and this is a world that’s full of them. Just look around!!
Desi – Perhaps your research skills are wanting, so allow me to lay this out for you:
The database of FSC’s APHSS system will contain NO MEDICAL information and NO PERSONAL/PEDIGREE INFORMATION (such as SS # or DL # or DOB or address).
It will only contain name, contact email or phone, the date of their last test, and whether or not the performer is available for work.
When a producer checks the system, he/she will only see the performer’s name, their availability, and the date of their last test.
Be it known to all that I will NOT clean up another AIM or FSC fuck up.
PERIOD
If you chose to trust this lying cabal of thieves you are on your own.
That’s more demagoguing, Mike.
Can you answer these questions?
1) Since, as you are aware, the FSC’s APHSS database will contain NO private pedigree information (such as DL or SS# or CC# or home address or DOB) and NO medical information, what exactly is the nature of the “fuck up” you fear/predict? Can you explain?
2) What health database is in place for the performers you hire for YOUR scenes?
3) Do you even demand tests? If so, for what are performers tested?
4) How often are the performers you hire required to be tested?
5) Are those tests paper tests, or do you have a database you can access to verify that the performers are available for work?
6) What is the protocol when/if a performer you hire out in Georgia tests positive? Where do they go and who do they contact? Who tracks other performers and/or civilians they may have worked with, and who contacts them?
7) If you truly care about the performers and the industry, then why are you taking an “it’s them or me” position vis-a-vis their health and security?
8.) Have you proposed your own — superior — plan which you will administer, for the performers’ health and safety?
These are simple questions, Mike. If you have as much character as I give you credit, I’m sure you’ll answer them right away.
1. None of that was available on the AIM database that started this problem either. There would have to be identifying info on that database, obviously or theres no way to know whose test you are looking at
2. None, I dont need a database I do thorough testing I have a system that works perfectly, could never be compromised and doesn’t involve anyone from porn.
3. Yes, HIV1&2, HEP AB&C, Syphilis, gonorrhea, HPV, Chlamydia and Herpes
4. 30 days or less for any form of penetration
5. My method is 100% verifiable and safe
6. If a performer I use confirmed positive I would be notified. Proceedures are in place for dealing with that should it happen….It hasn’t
7. Because AIM and the FSC have proven over and over and over and over that they cannot handle responsibility, if they left it FULLY in the hands of medical professionals I might be swayed. It isn’t them or me, I’m simply stating on the record I will NOT clean this up a second time.
8. Yes many times, to universal disinterest.
truth is I could potentially support a bio metric based system….that wouldnt be that expensive either.
@Mike – Thank you for your answers.
Here’s one that bothers me: “1. None of that [performer DL or SS# or CC# or home address or DOB] was available on the AIM database that started this problem either. There would have to be identifying info on that database, obviously or there’s no way to know whose test you are looking at.”
Your assertion about the AIM database is absolutely incorrect. The AIM database contained performer name, real name, and DL (or the like) and/or SS# AND dated test results — the actual tests. Just because the producer could not necessarily view ALL of this info when he/she logged in does not mean it as not contained in the database. You and I know all too well what info was in the database, because the data dump from the database (minus selected persons, AH-HEMMM) was published on PWL.
Yes, there is identifying info in the APHSS database — the person’s name.
Mike, under the APHSS program ALL of the personal and medical information of performers WILL BE left “FULLY in the hands of medical professionals”. Please follow the upcoming details about APHSS, and hopefully you’ll allow yourself to overlook your feelings about FSC and BE swayed.
As for your remaining answers, I commend you, although you certainly haven’t provided much detail. In any case, though conscientious, you are a single producer in a tiny geographical market, not an industry.
While I trust YOU can verify the test information from the few performers YOU hire, I am certain your non-database system would have little applicability (or worse, could have disastrous effect — as the industry discovered before AIM) were it adopted by the mainstream adult production industry at large. Checks and safeguards are needed because unscrupulous people DO exist.
The fact that you answered my questions the way you did proves your scruples and dedication, but not your micro-system’s applicability to a full-scale production industry.
this whole pwl debacle grew out of exactly that…the persons name.
I think, particularly in this day and age we can do better. Are they still doing that old pcr/dna test? The problems with it are WELL known.
The better move would be to HIV test every time with an instant test, they are highly accurate and inexpensive and dont have the rate of false negatives that the pcr/dna does.
Nothing is fool proof I admit but the FSC hasn’t shown me that they have the responsibility to undertake this task, this would be better handled by medical professionals, period.
@Mike – You write, “this whole pwl debacle grew out of exactly that…the persons name”
With respect, tell that to the performers I know that are now in the process of requesting new SS and DL numbers. The birth names of most performers were very easy to find prior to PWL, as you know, because those names constitute true information. There’s no way to stop that flow of information.
I’ll give Bill Margold this much — he was correct that the only reason to get into adult movies is “immortality” — because, for better or worse, it’s the only thing that can be guaranteed: your likeness and much of your identity will be public forever (or for as long as there is any interest in you). That is the reality.
PWL wasn’t about names, Mike. There are still sites with porn stars’ real names on it. It was about criminal and tortious harassment, terrorism, cyberstalking and extortion of innocent people,and a criminal misuse and misappropriation of private medical information. It was about what a group of sadistic racists, homophobes and anti-semites did with the information they had.
As for your claims about HIV testing:
The instant/rapid test is an ELISA-based test — an antibody test with a longer window than other tests.
“Rapid Antibody Tests are qualitative immunoassays intended for use as a point-of-care test TO AID IN THE DIAGNOSIS of HIV infection…. These tests should be used in appropriate MULTI-TEST algorithms designed for statistical validation of rapid HIV test results…. If no antibodies to HIV are detected, this does not mean the person has not been infected with HIV. It may take several months after HIV infection for the antibody response to reach detectable levels.”
I do not know if the current system will use the PCR-DNA or the PCR-RNA test, or what have you. I am confident that will be made clear soon enough
One more thing: The purpose of APHSS.org is as a verification resource for tests, and also to uphold protocols in the event of an outbreak. Private doctors and clinics have no way to do an industry-wide stoppage if something happens.
Also, APHSS has protocols for new performers and for treatment in the event of infection that need to be observed. APHSS facilities have been given policies for how to deal with performers’ issues with dignity and understanding — i.e., a non-judgmental environment with professionals who are familiar with the needs of performers.
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