Cindi,
First, I want to say thank you for publishing the material about me with an open mind. As you are aware, one of your commenters has made an allegation of rape against me. It is false. Please allow me to respond. See the attached response.
-Christopher Jack Reid
Jack Venice responds to Devon’s allegations
Hello. This is Jack Venice. Regarding “ Kelli’s” post, I will first clarify that I am not 100% certain which Kelli this is but if she is the same Kelli who previously posted supportive information, then I sincerely thank her. However, she is wrong about the allegations involving the Shane’s World movie Devon does Baja.
Here are the actual facts: A few years ago, Shane’s World signed a contract with Devon. I knew that she was a pretty girl who was formerly contracted with Digital Playground and I looked forward to working with her. Devon does Baja was her first movie and it was shot in Baja, Mexico. The cast/crew included Carly Parker, Justice Young, Devon, myself, Rick Shameless (camera), Carey (production manager) and maybe a few others. There were at least 8 people, but it’s too far back to remember all the names. We were staying in a 3 bedroom/2 bathroom beach house for 3 days. I slept on the sofa with Carly Parker every night. For those unfamiliar with Shane’s World, these trips are shot like MTVs Real World in the sense that the sex scenes are only one part of the movie. Cameras were rolling throughout the whole weekend.
Everyone who was there will verify that I was never alone with Devon. It is my understanding that Devon has claimed that the one scene that we did together was rape. I invite anyone reading this to go check out shanesworld.com, watch the scene and judge for yourself.
For those who were there, I urge you to take these allegations seriously. I point out that her claims mean that all of you are accused of being accomplices. I humbly say to you all, go to my website, http://www.udontnojack.com. There, you will find that I was wrongfully convicted of being an accomplice to another man that admitted to rape.
Note to Devon and all other haters:
If you have evidence of a crime, you should report it to police. These scurrilous accusations that you have made against me in the past, and the ones surely to come in the future, not only affect me but also do a disservice to others such as yourself, those people listed above, Shane’s World, and the entire adult film industry that has treated you and me so well.
As for Kelli, in the interest of being fair, I ask that you speak with those that were in Mexico, watch the movie, and post your findings so that the truth can prevail.
To my supporters and all other truth seekers:
This is a prime example of being kicked while you are down. I have accepted it for nearly 4 years. Those days are over!!! From now on I will defend my honor with every breath of my being. Follow our war on jacked up justice at http://www.udontnojack.com.
They let guys in prison cruise the net and visit porn sites for him to see what folks said on here? I thought they supposed to be in prison, not club med.
Exactly! What prison allows convicted rapists internet access? Obviously not really him.
clearly that isn’t actually Jack writing that. He wouldn’t know, use, or spell correctly the word “scurrilous” in a million years. lol
He is hardly in “club Med” but people in prison are able to talk to their friends and family. This reply is his reply, word for word (scurrilous included).
Actually after rereading his whole response I bet its a lawyer or someone else like that writing for him. If thats the case don’t come here pretending to be him.
Instead you should say “hey I’m Jack’s lawyer or legal represntative, Jack has this to say….
i have known Jack since 2005, no fucking way is that him writing that.
He wrote it and dictated it over the phone, including all punctuation and spelling. Nothing was edited. Obviously he did not type it or post it but the words are his, verbatim. That is why it was posted under his name; no one is pretending to be him or writing anything for him.
I can’t believe any of you think that people in prison can not use internet. All they have to do is ask a person to do it for them. Chirs/Jack what ever you won’t to call him,calls me everyday since day one. See I am his MOTHER. For one I have been sending him copys of every article I could find on this case. That also includes the Porn sites as well. And let me clue you in on something else. They also have email in prison. It is under http://www.jpay.com
(And yes this was a conversiation that he wanted his friend to post for him.) I also copy and past all of the comments and email them to Chris/Jack tonight. enjoy your evening.
The truth did prevail.
You were tried by a jury of your peers. You had the representation of your choice. You had the opportunity to testify yourself and present your defense. You have ample legal recourse in the courts of appeal. You were found guilty and sentenced according to the multiple crimes you committed and convicted of commiting. And you are now being given the opportunity to continue to exercise your free speech rights, even as a convicted felon.
The fact that Cindi sees fit to print this is her choice, but then again, contoversy means internet traffic.
If you were wrongly convicted I support your rights to your legal appeals. If you are truely guilty of the crimes for which you were convicted by a jury of your peers may you rot in prison, and then rot in hell.
Quick question regarding the facts of your case, if you dont mind. Do you claim that you were not even in that room, or even in that building, at the time this girl was assaulted, or is it your claim that you did not participate in the a assault but was merely there? Best of luck to you, in the meantime, dont drop the soap.
Thugs in prison should not have access to the internet, they are criminals in prison. Our country is broke and elderly and disabled people on Medicare and Social Security can barely get by and the govt. wants to cut them even more but spends 100k a year to keep each inmate in prison so they have internet access and can check out porn sites?
1-Karmafan just to let you know the state does not pay for this. He calls me on my phone and I look things up copy and past and email them to him. He does not have internet access.If I can no do that i will print them out and mail articles to him or research. They are not all criminals. Some did not do it.
Joe- are you an Attorney? I think not. Maybe you should read some books. I think that is the best advise I can give you. Your statement is no true…Read the web site udontnojack.com
Sam..I am so gald you came in to my life. Keep up the good work girl. Love ya.
christianx – who are you? You stated that you have know my son since 2005. I have never heard your name form his mouth are seen you in my life. If you are a friend why are you talking dirt about my son? Does your real friends treat you this way?
Yes deb christianx treats everybody that way. Unless you have money or something he needs you are beneath him. I don’t know of many people that would call him friend.
@Deb
Pay no mind to Joe, he’s just some high school kid who tries to get reactions out of people…
How come we have the serious photo of Jack/Chris? Why not one where he is super baked as he looks in most of his work.
@Deb. You raised a porn actor / convicted rapist for a child. Nice body of work. He was convicted by a jury of peers. Time for you to start moving on and help others in your family learn from his mistakes and not end up in his situation.
I wonder how much of a “jury of his peers” it truly was. A sexual assault in a college town tends to lead to a single conclusion, from the comments made on the website, all the “peers” were witnesses (as alma mater or currently enrolled) that went to the same school (and likely sympathetic to the victim regardless of the facts).
I’m not saying he is innocent or guilty. I wasn’t there. But it is truly amazing how many innocent people are in prison. The prisons are just full of innocent people. Talk to just about any inmate and he will tell you he is innocent.
(Sam, Can you email me? Cindi at lukeisback.com)
There was no “jury of his peers”. What there was, was a small, conservative town mentality that led to a conviction based on his profession and gave a deal to the person that committed the rape in exchange for his testimony against Chris. Everything that was written or broadcast before the trial mentioned that he was in porn. That doesn’t go over very well in a small, conservative town.
There has been a lot of bad press about Christian, but in my very brief email conversation with him I found him to be polite and respectful so I paid no attention to that but, as an acquaintance of Chris’, maybe he doesn’t really know him as well as he thought he did. Chris is a bright, articulate, thoughtful, good man of which his mother is and should be proud.
There are many people in prison serving time for crimes that they did not commit; you only have to pick up a paper or look it up on the internet to see that.
You are a scumbag.
Breaking into people’s homes is about as big a prank as the face full of lead that you’d get from trying it in most parts of the country.
And don’t play the veteran card. You are a disgrace to the armed forces for even trying to pull it out.
my $0.02 until someone who is commenting here has read the trial transcript it’s all a lot of noise.
Get the transcript and post it or all we can do is accept that the jury did it’s job faithfully and that the court of appeals did as well.
@Voltaire,
“Pay no mind t Joe, he’s just some high school kid who tries to get reactions out of people.
Yeah Volty, like when I was the first person ANYWHERE to report the last HIV case in the industry. I got some pretty good reaction to that now didnt I. Pretty good for a high school kid, wouldnt you say Volty? You amuse me.
Mike South is correct. The transcripts and evidence presented at trial are all that count right now.
It does not matter whether Jack Venice is a nice guy or not. It does not matter whether he wrote his response or not. It does not matter what anyone on this site or any other site thinks. At this point, rightly or wrongly, he is a convicted criminal. So, he must appeal that.
It’s wonderful that his mother loves him and collects articles and e-mails them to him, but they have nothing whatsoever to do with an appeal.
What he needs to do now is hire an appeals lawyer who can argue that he deserves a new trial – an appeals court will not set him free – based on inadequate representation, based on new evidence (not cut and pasted newspaper articles) that he is in fact provably innocent of doing what the accuser/victim said he did, that the jury was demonstrably corrupt, or they must demonstrate that the law under which he was convicted or the sentence he received was unconstitutional.
Arguing that the prosecution cut a deal with his compadre that night and not him is not a defense – that happens all the time and presumably his lawyer had a chance to undercut that testimony and the testimony of the victim at trial.
No one is going to get set free because of an Internet site. The best that can be hoped for from an Internet site is that an appeals lawyer in the state where he was tried might somehow or another see the site, get interested and take on the appeal, assuming that Jack’s family can’t pay for the appeal. I’m going to assume that the family has already talked to appeals lawyers.
All of which leads to why Mike is right: Appeals are usually based on the transcripts of the trial and the evidence that was presented at the trial. So, post the transcripts. Show that based on the testimony and evidence presented at trial, there is a reasonable doubt that he was guilty.
I think I agree with Mike South on this one…
@Joe
Even the BOY who cried wolf was right once…
Okay so all the Devon stuff aside, in this specific case, if you read the news stories, etc. the one thing that is really bothering me about all of it (as a female especially), how can you be convicted of rape of someone you didn’t touch? The OTHER guy was touching her, so how does that make Jack the rapist?
While it is true he should be in trouble for what he did do, such as breaking in that place, I don’t agree with them convicting him of something he didn’t do.
As a female, I take the issue of rape really serious and every single wrong conviction or even accusation, hurts those who are really victims of this horrible crime.
So I keep wondering, how the hell did they get a CONVICTION of rape when all evidence I have seen made it very clear it was the other guy touching the chick?
Kelli you are operating under an assumption that probably isnt true.
You don’t know if he touched her or not..get the trial transcripts, read them and THEN ask these questions.
I will lay odds he more than touched her.
Yes the other guy may have gotten a better deal…that happens all the time whomever co-operates the most usually gets the best deal when both parties are guilty.
Why the fuck was he burglarizing shit? Don’t steal from other people.
Okay so I was so trying to refrain from responding and I apologize in advance for such a long response. No one is disputing that he should not have trespassed into those homes. Nothing was stolen (by him) or broken. Apparently this “pranking” stuff goes on in the sororities and fraternities regularly there. I would be the last person in the world to ever know that, but that was what was testified to by witnesses at his trial and what I found to be common knowledge through researching it. Chris would not have known this either, but the guys that he had met and was with that night, and whose idea it was to do this “pranking” stuff, told him that. When they were confronted (they were hardly sneaking around or being quiet about it) not one of the residents called the police. If I found strangers in my home, I would have called the police. That just seems like common sense to me, but the fact that they did not just verified my research.
His service in Marines was originally brought up by the media. He is proud of his service, he is a veteran, and it is a part of his story. That is all.
@Mike South – I agree that it should be posted; I am not sure that it can be though. It should be public record but the original trial transcript is not online. I don’t know why that is. I can only assume that it may have something to do with protecting the identities of those involved, which I fully support. No one is trying to cause problems of any kind for anyone, just to show Chris’ innocence. I appreciate your comments, while I may not agree with them all, they are well thought out and intelligent. Bobt03 as well. I know, I know, who am I and why do I matter? Truthfully I don’t. I have only read and listened to everything in his case and only having done so came to the conclusion that he is innocent of the rape charge. For me, it is not about Chris, at least originally. It is about justice being served to the appropriate person. Yes, he became a friend of mine after that. If that makes it so my opinion on this matter doesn’t count, so be it. I realize this but not disclosing this fact would make me dishonest and that matters to me. Still what I comment about can be looked up. The other guy got a deal, that extended to issues outside of this case which I won’t get into, to testify against him. Is it so hard to believe that someone would lie to save them self? Chris could have taken a plea deal too, served a few months and been out a long time ago, but instead, he went to trial thinking he would be found innocent of a crime that he had not committed, as naïve as that was.
@Kelli -I didn’t come to this conclusion lightly. It was a big deal to me as well for reasons I can’t get into here; this is very close to home for me. I agree that he should have never been in those places, but imo, trespassing charges seem more appropriate. I can’t speak for Chris (Jack) and I won’t. My comments are my own but it is not hard to get in touch with him. Contact info here (in info section): Chris Reid AKA Jack Venice “Life Without Knowing” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dymy_ODUKQc The letter he speaks of is the one posted on his site http://www.udontnojack.com. The audio gives a bit more insight into his case as well, but it is mostly about indeterminate sentencing.
Wish you all the best.
To Mike’s point, the legal documents and not the news reports are what’s relevant. That’s what courts review when it comes to appeals. And, fair or unfair, Reid’s case was appealed to the Washington State Court of Appeals. His sentence was upheld in 2010. http://law.justia.com/cases/washington/court-of-appeals-division-iii/2010/277241-unp-doc.html.
While the whole transcripts are not reprinted here, you can review the evidence presented at trial and what led to Reid’s conviction.
A couple of relevant points. He was not convicted of rape – putting his penis in a woman. He was convicted of second degree rape, which involved sexual touching. He was also convicted of burglary and residential burglary. A total of four counts.
You may not like it, but second degree rape in the State of Washington carries with it the potential for life in prison. That’s the law.
From from being a hanging judge out to get him for being a porn star, the judge followed the sentencing guidelines and gave Reid the lowest possible sentence allowed under the law because he did not think he was likely to reoffend. That was life with the possibility of parole after 9 years.
To Mike’s point, the testimony at trial was that after a night of bar hopping and general obnoxiousness – one where Reid apparently told people he was looking for women to make porn with, Reid and his buddy were tossed from a party and then wandered campus, breaking into several sorority houses by climbing through windows. They committed some petty vandalism and theft, such as throwing stuff out the window into the yard and stealing sodas.
In one sorority house, they found a woman asleep in a room. Reid said he wanted to hook up with her and dropped his pants. He caressed the woman with his hand. Then while his buddy put a finger in her vagina, Reid put on a condom and rubbed his penis against her vagina. That’s the sexual touching – second degree rape. She woke up. She screamed. They fled. The police were called. He was arrested.
As a one-time kid who did stupid things, it seems harsh. As a father and husband, I ask myself, how would I feel if two drunken guys walked up and down my street, climbed into my neighbor’s houses, went into their refrigerators and drank their stuff, tossed some of their belongings out the window into the street, and then climbed through a window into my house, snuck into my bedroom and fondled my wife and rubbed a penis against her.
I don’t think I’d laugh it off as a youthful indiscretion. I know my wife wouldn’t.
And that should put this whole thing to rest. from what I read of the appeal Jack got exactly what he should have.
The document from the state of appeals is dretty damning towards Jack. This is one example where the legal system worked.
Jack was convicted by a jury of his peers (the jury even included a person who had previously been falsely accused of sexual assault) and was given a fair sentence. He appealed the conviction based on a series on nits, and was shot down on his appeal.
He did the crime, now he has to do the time. I hope his family decides to realign their energy into making sure they do not create any more rapists rather than wasting their time defending Jack.
A few points: Where do you think that story, above, came from? Obviously it came from Mr. Schott, “his buddy” who lied time and time again to the police and in whose room stolen property was found. In exchange for his testimony he was let off on a charge not related to the case, served 13 months in a prison camp and was released, and will not have to register as a sex offender after 10 years.
Eyewitiness testimony has been found to be highly unreliable. Just doing a google search for eyewitness testimony will bring up several articles about that interspersed only with definition of the term. The accuser could not give a description of Reid after the incident but after seeing his picture in the paper and on the news, was only then able to identify him.
How does one put on a condom and rub one’s penis on her vagina when she states that she “woke up to the sound of a condom wrapper being opened”? Whether or not you believe that he was there, it would have been impossible for that to have happened as she was awoken by “the sound of a condom wrapper being opened”.
Give it up Samm, he broke the law he got caught, the jury believed the prosecution, who has the burdon of proof. he is lucky to be able to get out in 9 years.
If I woke up and that fucker was in my room uninvited Deb would be putting flowers on the predators grave.
No excuse for that shit…NONE
Okay now we are getting somewhere. What you said was NOT what was stated previously.
“Reid said he wanted to hook up with her and dropped his pants. He caressed the woman with his hand. Then while his buddy put a finger in her vagina, Reid put on a condom and rubbed his penis against her vagina.”
So then fuck ya, he got what he deserved. What was previously said was he didn’t touch her. He was across the room. Now it comes out he dropped his pants and put his penis against her vagina. WTF?! I’m sorry but he deserves the conviction then.
Mike South said it best ……. “No excuse for that shit…NONE”
“Now it comes out he dropped his pants and put his penis against her vagina.”
The ONLY person that said that was Mr Schott. If that happened, I would agree that the conviction would be deserved. However, you are assuming that, that is what happened.
Chris said that he wasn’t there. Obviously I was not there and my opinion would be just that, my opinion. I am only talking facts. The fact is that there is no evidence via DNA, fingerprints or on the rape kit that contradicts Reid’s statement. There is no evidence that he was there. It is also a fact that Schott is a liar. He lied time and time again to the police as was brought up in the trial. He also tried to alter his appearance the following day. Chris had already left Pullman but immediately drove back to WA to turn himself in as soon as he was told, by a reporter that contacted him through his myspace page, that he was wanted.
She said she woke to the sound of a “candy wrapper” being opened, not a condom wrapper. Either way, there’s a process. If you’re convicted at trial, you appeal to the court of appeals. He did that, argued his case and lost. He can appeal to the state supreme court. If he loses there, or if they refuse to hear his case, he can appeal to a federal appeals court if there is a federal issue. But to prevail, he has to have something new – he has already argued that his buddy is a scumbag and eyewitness testimony is unreliable. A jury convicted him; a judge sentenced him; an appeals court upheld the sentence. Google searches won’t change those facts.
In her original deposition she said that she woke up to the sound of a condom wrapper being opened. Doesn’t really matter other than that if she woke up to it, and it was him (or another) as they claim, it couldn’t have happened the way they claim. Chris is working through the process of appeals, etc. As you may know, it is a long process, a lot of work and costly.
What was in the reports about the 911 Call.
This is a true fact in police reports.
Whit com advised that the attempted rape had occurred approximately 20 minutes prior to being dispatched to the call.Whitcom also stated that the reporting party, later identified as the accuser, provided a very limited physical description of two white males .tempted to rape her.
Some of her police statement on 09/17/2007
her police statement… Yeah I feel I would know, I feel like that would have woken me up if someone was taking off my pants but I do not know that detail, I just know my, I know that my routine, I guess you’d say is I don’t sleep in my pants. They are snug but I don’t like the feel of it but I could’ve. I could’ve taken them off or I could’ve not have. I just don’t know that (inaudible)
KAccuserrh Police statement on (09/17/07)
(B-7) Officer Perringer: Let’s go back up to the head again, any hats anything like that on the one that was farthest away?
Accuser: Not no hats, just I felt like his hair was almost like a little spiky.
(B-8) Officer Perringer: A little bit spiky.
Accuser: Maybe a little a little bit spiky.
(B-9) Officer Perringer: And this is the one that was farther away?
AAccuserc: Yeah.
(B-10) Officer Perringer: Okay.
AAccuser: …..and I don’t and the face is unclear to me just because it was just a guy’s face to me I don’t remember eye color or anything becuase it was still dark in there.
(B-11) Officer Perringer: OKay so when you woke up, what happen?
AAccuserA I think I finally realized this feels really, really gross like this feels really gross like this feels really wrong and then I looked over and actually I woke up to the sound of a condom being opened and that’s when I was like, “what’s going on?” and I looked over and I saw two men laying down and one was, was yeah called spooning up against me and the other one was just behind him just watching and as soon as I turned my head the two men, just they started whispering something really loud like “get out of here” or something like that and then they just left. It happened very, very, very quickly.
(B-12)Officer Perringer: How, uh how well lit were their faces at this point? Do you feel that you saw their faces well?
AAccuser: The one that, when I woke up I was not looking at faces I was more looking at the situation and trying to figure out where on, where, what’s going on, you know so I didn’t get a lot of glimpse of faces um more, maybe more so the guy the furthest from me because I’m not ya but I do not recall
(B-13) Accuser I saw somebody opening a condom and I
Officer Perringer: Who? Right there?
AccuserThe person close to me
Officer Perringer: Okay the one close, was he, what was his position there while he was doing that?
AAccuserc: Laying towards me
Officer Perringer: He was lying towards you?
AAccuser Yeah on his side.
Officer Perringer: when you woke up, what position were you laying in on the, you were laying on the floor?
(B-14) Accuser: I was laying on the floor and I was, I was, my back was away from them and there’s closets, big closets on the side and I was face the closets and I remember I was cuddled up kind of on my, on my right side with my head turned and when I woke up I turned my head over like that, and I saw the guy laying next to me opening a condom and I mean it was very evident, that sound is (inaudible) that sound was obvious and that’s when I thought, “what?!”, and I saw that I mean I saw that trying to be opened and then they saw that I was awake and…
Officer Perringer: So from the point from when you started becoming aware that something was going on in that “dream” state what I would like for you to do is to think about what you were hearing at this point.
(B-15) Accuser: honestly I don’t recall many sounds except for when I woke up and I turned my head, I heard like thick whispering like almost to the point of talking and you know it was quick, like really quick jibber like I don’t really know what they said but I just remember …I am just assuming because they realized I was awake it was probably something like “she’s awake , let’s get out” or something like that but it was just heavy, heavy whispering and kinda quick it was really, really quick.
Her discription of what the men where wearing the morning the crime was reported: Chris and Kyle Schott where both in wite t-shirts and blue jeans who is this other Person??????This is in her report.
reported at the Kappa Alpha Theta sorority at 950 NE Monroe street. The
victim was sleeping on the floor in a friend’s room when she woke up to
two men in her room. She had been on her period and her tampon had been
removed, and she felt as if her vagina had been penetrated by something,
although she was unsure. She said that when she woke up the two men ran
out of the room and down the fire escape. She said that the sound of a
wrapper, possible a condom wrapper, being torn open, may have awakened
her. During the crime scene processing it was noted that some porn
sites had been accessed on one of the member’s laptop computers,
Apparently during the time frame of the burglary and assault. It is
‘slieved that the men entered the sorority by forcing a door with a
Jjalty closing mechanism open. The victim described two male suspects,
as white. One with longer brown hair, wearing khaki shorts
R maroon shirt. She said the other male was just wearing a white
t-shirt.
And to let you people know I got a copy of the CD from the WSU Police in Pullman this week and none of the porn site on th is girl’s computer had Jack Venice in them……
@ Samm and reid
Are you of the belief that Jack is innocent? Or do you believe his punishment does not fit his crime?
I believe his appeals underscore his guilt. He did not appeal any/all of the facts presented during the trial. and he did not appeal the truthfullness of the evidence. Therefore, I can only conclude that Jack believes the facts presented during the trial were all true.
Instead his appeal centered around his belief that his lawyer failed to adequately perform his job. Just look at his appeal:
1. The overuse of “porn star” influenced the outcome.
2. The judge mentioning that this trial was not a death penalty case influenced the outcome.
3. Juror #9 should have been dismissed because of his beliefs.
4. The always fun photo montage.
5. DNA evidence should not have been admitted.
6. Testimony evidence should not have been allowed.
7. The evidence was insufficient for a conviction.
In none of the above did Jack say the evidence was wrong. He just said his lawyer made bad tactical mistakes related to each appeal.
So he NEVER denied he was there? If he was a law abiding upstanding citizen (yes most porn stars are honest law abiding people) he would not have been there.
A girl waking up to find a couple mopes in her room taking her clothes off would be pretty traumatized for life. Its something you never forget and it changes the way you look at people, your living conditions, your personal space, and your environment. Someone should be punished for that.
If Jacko isn’t denying he was there then his vacation at the vaseline factory is well deserved.
@ jet_tits
I don’t prefer to post my personal opinions on his case because to most they wouldn’t matter and I understand why. But because you respectfully asked, and I cannot contact you personally, I will. My opinion is that he is innocent of the rape conviction. Do I think he did some downright idiotic things that night? I would have to be an idiot to not think so but I do believe that he is innocent of the rape conviction and that he was not there as he has stated from the beginning. The evidence, of lack of, does not contradict that. I can only base my opinion on what he says, the evidence, and the facts of what I have read and heard in the case. There are a number of reasons that I don’t believe the prosecution’s case against him, reasons which are in the letter posted on the udontnojack website.
You are entitled to your beliefs and I fully respect your right to your own opinion. As I have said, I have read everything (trial and appeal transcripts, police discovery reports, witness depositions, etc.) and listened to all the witness depositions that were not transcribed. If you had read/listened to the same information, it may or may not sway your opinion. Obviously it swayed my opinion and that is the only reason I am involved in this at all. I have nothing to gain from speaking out; I just believe that his conviction is wrong and it’s just in my nature to speak out when I think something is unjust.
Chris took the advice of his lawyer and did not have the knowledge of the law that he now does. As he said, he accepted it for almost 4 years but no longer, and certainly not with the information that he has uncovered since deciding to fight back. He has found many discrepancies in his case. Truthfully I have limited knowledge of the appeals process and what can or cannot be presented or disputed so I don’t want to make a fool of myself by pretending that I do.
Personally I think that the overuse of “porn star” influenced the outcome. I believe that those in the porn industry are often judged unfairly. His career choice had nothing to do with whether or not he raped anyone but it was brought up in the trial and in the media repeatedly. The rest is addressed in the letter on his website, at least anything I personally believe to be relevant, and how it was wrong. These things will be addressed in more detail, in the future and by him, but it is part of what he is working on now.
Again these are only my opinions. I am sorry that I am unable to answer your post thoroughly. I did my best.
It certainly must suck to go from banging Hanna Hilton and Harley Raine to banging your own hand. Much less all the other things you miss out on like pizza and beer, Christmas with your family, etc… I bet he wishes he stayed home that night.
So Devon says the scene in which she accuses this guy…is actually a scene on the DVD!
That shounds hard to believe if it was that bad that it would have been included on the DVD, right?
Anyone check out the scene in question?
Maybe Jack’s defense should have subpeonaed all the BTS footage of the porn with Jack and Devon. To all you porn folks out there, dont smoke dope except at home. The folks in Pullman must have really been out to nail him since he is a Vet and I do not think that most DAs and Cops like busting Vets, or they thought their case was air tight. This is an NBC Dateline story made in heaven.
Jack was hooking for men through notorious gay porn pimp David Forest right before his trial. Straight porn alone won’t pay those pesky legal fees!
MrBenGrim, the couple had two scenes in the movie, one showing her as the sexual aggressor and the other as the natural progression of a day on the dunes. It has been awhile since I reviewed it for Xcritic but both scenes were a lot better than her usual dazed look and passive performances under previous contracts.
Samm, part of the problem you’re having is by defining the applied laws under your own terms. “Rape” is actually called sexual assault and does not have to include a penis entering the mouth, pussy, or ass. Further, the “pranking” he admits to participating in included breaking into residences at night time (which is a far cry from trespassing); most states treating the act in a harsh manner (though less harsh than many of us would have done, ie reference the “Castle Doctrine”).
Your biggest hangup seems to be that the victim wasn’t always able to positively identify him and that some of her story changed. My biggest issue with it aside from the venue of the trial (IMHO, it should have been moved to another part of the state given the extensive pretrial publicity) was that so much of the case relied on a member of the criminal combination (there were three of them initially); a guy whose credibility and reliability were piss poor.
Others might complain that upgrading the charges due to the missing soda seems petty and against the spirit of the law as written, or might object to the use of the term “pornstar” but frankly, he made close to 300 movies (who knows how many scenes for websites) and most people who define him that way that worked with him. You can claim poor representation too but again, legally it isn’t based on the conclusion (that you were found guilty) or that he was not the greatest dream team lawyer that ever existed. Jack was reasonably called a porn star, the basis for excluding evidence has to be something more than “it makes my client look guilty”, and if the guy didn’t like juror #9, he should have raised it before the trial or used one of his strikes.
As far as Chris/Jack having learned so much about the law since the trial, didn’t he keep using the same lawyer for appeals rather than hire a specialist? And appeals based on what constitutes a “fact” versus a “lie” are doomed in most cases because our system is set up to allow the jury to make those decisions, the judge’s instructions making it clear that they are the ones charged with weighing the evidence and credibility of the witnesses while the judge rules on the applicable laws.
So, while I might have some potential issues with some of the witnesses (especially the heavy reliance on Kyle Schott), the jury did not appear out to get him (otherwise they would not have found him not guilty on one of the charges) and the crime lab did not appear to be the prosecutor’s best friend considering it did not generate anything substantial to convict him (quite the opposite, finding no fingerprints, positive DNA matches, etc.). Cases are not typically thrown out based on a shitty photo montage, file a public records request and show it here, and ineffective counsel claims are many but rarely make a difference (reading just his website, what was linked to above, what was in the news, and what you have presented, I’d probably have convicted him of at least three of the charges myself).