Colors Of Men
By The Colonel
The latest episode of 24, America’s response to James Bond, ends with two parallel scenes: In one scene, CTU operative Dana Walsh is being interrogated and tortured under direct order of the president of The United States while in the parallel scene, the president is addressing and lecturing her international colleagues on human rights and global peace issues. What a bold and precise depiction of hypocrisy. Come to think of it, what’s more interesting is the fact that Fox is broadcasting 24. Fox: Right winger’s watchtower, The Elite’s propaganda machine and home of the likes of Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck; and yet the place where for the past two decades the most controversial, politically incorrect and uncompromising shows have been broadcasted, from The X-Files to 24, Family Guy, etc. If you ask why, the answer is because these shows sell quite well. They’re popular and attract tons of viewers and therefore tons of money made off of commercials, DVD and merchandise sales, etc. It’s business the American way, plain and simple. Take it or leave it.
In fact the same culture of profit exists not only in corporate media, but in every aspect and corner of American society, porn valley included. For too long, the issue of race in the adult industry has sparked much controversy, debate and conflict: Is there racial discrimination in the adult industry? Are the owners of big porn companies racists? Why some girls refuse to perform in interracial scenes? And so on and so on. Everybody from the industry workers to fans has an opinion, and some will go to extreme lengths to debate, defend and protect their opinion. Case in point, veteran performer Justin Long has recently announced in response to the discriminating, racist adult industry, he has decided to not perform in interracial scenes. I know Justin, I’ve hired him a number of times, and I can tell you he’s one of the good guys. He’s kind and polite, shows up on time and delivers a solid performance. I like him and respect his opinion, although I have my reasons to disagree with him on this issue. Allow me to explain:
I have to make one thing clear before I get to the main subject: We refer to the business of making pornographic movies as ‘the adult industry’ only for lack of a better word. There is no such thing as the adult industry, neither literary nor figuratively. What we have are a number of independent producers who finance their movies out of their pocket and sell them in a competitive, dog eat dog, over saturated market. These people have no such thing as a union, they don’t gather for annual meetings, and above all, they don’t share any common interests. They’re independent business owners, each with their specific audiences and unique ways of financing and distributing their product and profiting from it. The term ‘Industry’ doesn’t exactly apply to this particular business. Therefore, you can’t choose some of these independent business owners and draw a conclusion based on actions and decisions of those individuals and apply your conclusion to all of those who are in the business of making pornographic movies. Such conclusion and reasoning is inaccurate, wrong and most of all unfair.
Now to the main subject: Nobody makes porn to enlighten his audiences, get socio-political messages across or motivate people spiritually. Producing pornographic movies is a business, and like any other business, its first and foremost priority is making money. Therefore, the general rule which applies to any other business applies to porn as well, and that is the rule of demand and supply. In other words, every porn company has their specific audiences who demand and expect specific types of movies: The majority of gonzo audiences are young to middle age male viewers from various races and socio-economic classes that pay to watch wall to wall dirty, nasty fuck scenes. The last thing to cross this audience’s mind is the race. They even appreciate and enjoy interracial scenes, and that’s why many gonzo producers make interracial series and hire black performers. On the contrary, the majority of feature porn audiences are middle age to older white, relatively wealthy couples. Regardless of their socio-political affiliations and whether they’re conservatives or liberals, many of them have one thing in common: They’re stuck somewhere in the 19th century, and although they may not tell you in your face, but the idea of a black man making love with a white woman aggravates and disgusts them. They will never pay to watch that. Therefore, you don’t see too many interracial themes and scenes and black performers in feature porn movies. Even if a feature porn happens to be about a black celebrity (i.e. Tiger Woods) producers will design the scenario in a way that no interracial scene occurs between their contract starlet and the black man. I’ll give you an example: I was talking to a female performer a while ago. She’s a well known European girl who has performed in hundreds of movies. She said when she first came to America in 2004 and got into the adult industry, her agent told her there’s good money to make in performing interracial scenes. After a few months and performing in a few interracial scenes, she went to a meeting with a producer of one of the big companies to discuss signing an exclusive contract. The producer told her they won’t be able to sign her, because in producer’s own words: ‘You’ve been in some interracial scenes, and our audiences don’t like that.’
You may ask so is it all about the business and there are no racial motives involved in the adult industry? The answer is yes and no. When you look at the issue objectively, you realize what porn companies provide is what their audiences require; demand and supply, the most basic and common rule of business. In that regard, when a gonzo producer makes interracial series, it doesn’t necessarily mean he prefers one race over another. Consequently, when a feature porn producer avoids interracial themes and scenes and hires less black performers, it doesn’t necessarily mean he’s a discriminating racist. Each one has their own audiences and each one caters to that audiences’ demand. However, it’s evident that some individuals who work at the adult industry as producers, performers, agents, etc. have personal negative opinions towards some racial groups, and they certainly fall into the racist category to a more a less degree; but those individuals are in minority and do not represent the entire adult industry. Therefore, using examples of actions and decisions of a small portion of the adult industry workers to conclude that adult is a discriminating, racist industry is inaccurate, wrong and most of all unfair.
Going back to Justin Long and his act of boycotting what he views as the discriminating, racist adult industry, I know he has good intentions, but this is not going to change anything. For every man or woman, white, black, Latino, etc. who boycotts the adult industry or refuses to perform in certain scenes for any reason whatsoever, there are ten more to take their place. I believe what Justin should do instead is to refuse to perform in derogatory scenes, interracial or otherwise, scenes that depict black men as stereotypical gangsters and punks and thugs. That’s the worst type of degradation, and that’s self inflicted. I made a similar decision when I was a performer, working for other producers. I come from a Jewish/Catholic family, and although I’m not a firm believer or a religious person, but I decided I will never participate in anything that depicts a derogatory, insulting or stereotypical image of my people. During the 1980’s, I was offered to play German Nazis in two movies. The pay was good, I liked the girls and knew the producers and had worked for them before; but I turned down the parts, and producers understood and respected my decision. We all have our choices. Ultimately, every man should and would be judged based on his personal character and particular actions. Colors of men don’t matter.
Colonel well written and right on.
As I agree w/ the point that everyone has what he or she likes to see in porn doesn’t mean that everyone has the same taste. It’s 2010 and although we have a long way to go on this country on race issues you have to admit we have come big steps toward racial equality from time past. I being a latino tryin to make my path in this business feel like minorities can be more in the forefront of the business as much as the white performers it just takes persistance and determination. I would never do “stereotypical” scenes just cause of my race or skin color cause i feel that being demeaning and just plain wrong. A time where an all latin, black, asian, etc..production wins a major porn award is no where close to being achieved I know that one day hopefully in my lifetime it will happen.
Colonel,
Well said.
I agree with what you wrote about performers doing derogatory scenes, portraying the stereotypical gangster, punks. or thugs.
I just cant take any black mans rant against racism, when that individual himself has perpetuated those very same stereotypes for a paycheck.
Many performers, mostly female, refuse to do IR scenes not out of racism, but because they dont want to participate in the racial degredation that is the hallmark of interacial porn. Just look at the titles of most of Jstins movies, they speak for themselves.
Trying to pull the race card AFTER degrading your own people just seems a little hypocritical.
I agree, Justin should have said that he will no longer do any scene that is racially derogatory towards anybody. Many before him have done exactly this, and he accuses them of being racitst. They put their pride in front of their paycheck, which should be admired. But Justin doesnt would rather play the thug, punk, gangster roll, cash his check, and then call himself a victim.
Clean up your act Justin. Stop taking paychecks from the white man who pay you to degrade your own people. On Justins myspace page there is a boxcover
that refers to latinas as ‘hot talmales’. Justin is just as guilty as everyone he points his fingers at.
There are two people I would like Justin to meet, the are Mr. Pot, and Mr. Kettle..they are both black.
Again, well said Colonel.
Joe Know says:
‘Many performers, mostly female, refuse to do IR scenes not out of racism, but because they dont want to participate in the racial degredation that is the hallmark of interacial porn.’
That’s very true. Many female performers will tell you they’re not comfortable in any kind of derogatory scenes, interracial or otherwise. If a female performer doesn’t want to perform in the next volume of interracial gang bang seris White Trash Whores, I wouldn’t take it as she’s racist. I take it as she doesn’t like to be labeled and degraded; and I understand and respect her decision.
You need an editor. Seriously. I assume you have a point and I might even agree with it if you were able to express yourself in a more coherent manner.
“Now to the main subject: Nobody makes porn to enlighten his audiences, get socio-political messages across or motivate people spiritually”
I’m sorry , but these are the exact reason that I write pornographic stories.
People have boycotted and protested against the producers of music and television media ( which follows the same model more or less as the Adult industry you explained) and while change was slow still occurred.
In the 1950s a producer took a chance making a show about a white woman and her Latino husband. Most people told the team that America wasn’t ready for a non-white man with a white woman as man and wife on TV. They predicted it would be a disaster. It turned out to be one of the most profitable, long running and beloved shows in history. I Love Lucy.
I think the problem is that in the adult industry no one is willing to take that chance.
Let me see Robert, you’re the moron who usually posts on wrong threads, right? Last time you wanted to comment on Gone with the Wind porn parody, and instead you posted your stupid, little comment on my thread about the secret societies and their influence on media. And now you’re complaining you don’t understand this article because I don’t express myself in a *more coherent manner*. Perhaps the reason you don’t understand what I wrote is because you’re in the wrong place again. This is a porn blog, not the school for retarded people. Besides, if you don’t understand something, you don’t have to feel compelled to comment on it. Go get your milk and cookies.
And BlasianBytch, in order to maintain and run a business, you have to profit from it, otherwise there would be no business. You can sit in your living room and write whatever stories you like, but as long as you don’t invest money into what you do and don’t make money off of it, then you’re not doing a business. You’re entertaining yourself. Don’t compare a hobby with a full scale business. That’s apples and oranges.
The Interracial thing started, as far as I know when feature dancers were told that they werent as attractive as draws because they worked with black guys. It had an effect on the rates they would get, which was important because this was before the escort explosion. I have no idea if interracial scenes effect the escort business, if it does I would like to know. In the early days it seemed like interracial porn was no big deal, I could be wrong, but many ladies had no problem taking black cock.
hehe you guys are funny but not so funny.. i worte right thier WE DONT LIKE THE NAMES IETHER.. and guess who produced the “hot tamale” video???? a white company owner.. and guess what???? I did’nt even know the name of the movie when I shot it..
the companies puttin most of this crap out are not owned by black people.. 99% are white owned..
What you guys are saying is that blacks should turn down 95% of thier work and go hungry or get different jobs because white company owners are selling movies that are called “hot tamales” even though I personaly on and off screen treated that hispanic girl (which is not the one on the cover) with absolute respect showing no disregard to her race or nationality.. I didn’t pic the damn name of the movie and again when I shot the movie (my one scene in it so quit calling it MY movie) I didn’t even know the name..
We all are just here working and if 95% of white on white movies were called my daughters fiuckin a honky guess what ???? whites would still shoot as talent because if they stood up they would never work because 95% of the movies are called that in this hypothisis..
I AM NOT SHOOTING ANYMORE FILMS LIKE THAT !!!!!! YOU ARE’NT LISTENING.. WE DONT LIKE IT EITHER.. WE KNOW IT’S WRRONG.. BUT WE CANT GO HOMLESS AND SHOULD NOT HAVE TO GO GET A DIFERENT CAREER BECAUSE OF IT.. IF IT REALLY OFFENDS ‘YOU’ WHY ARE’NT YOU WRITING THE PRODUCTION COMPANIES???????
Get it straight people, and please quit pretending that that is why ALL or even a large majority of girls dont do IR
PROOF – I know tons of girls that refused to do IR until they were NO LONGER WANTED OR SHOT by the big companies and now guess what they are doing????? \
movies like MY DAUGHTERS FUCKIN A NIGGER
you argument doesn’t hold wait or water.. is it a problem .. your god damn right it is.. and us blacks dont like it anymore then any of you here.. but to pawn it off as the ecuse for discrimination in the adult industry is weak at best
AGIAIN – I AM NOT SHOOTING ANYMORE MOVIES WITH NAMES LIKE THAT… I DONT THINK YOU UNDERSTAND THAT..
what you are also failing to understand.. is once I shoot a scene or anyone else.. WE HAVE NO CONTROL WHERE IT GOES OR WHAT IT’S CALLEED
SO IF MR. PRODUCER WANTS TO CHANGE THE NAME LAST MINUTE TO NIGGERS ARE FUCKK HONKYS – WE HAVE NOBODY CALLING US ASKING IF IT’S OK BECAUSE THEY OWN IT, AND THEY KNOW DAMN WELL WE WOULD NOT APPROVE, BUT IT WOULDN’T MATTER CAUSE GUESS WHAT
TALENT DOES NOT CONTROL WHAT A NAME OF A MOVIE IS.. THAT WWOULD BE THE COMPANIES AND LETS NOT FORGET .. WHITE CONSUMERS BY THEWM AND DAILY..
QUIT LAYIN THE BLAME AT OUR DOOR BECUASE WE ARE THE EASY SCAPE GOAT.. WE ARE THE INDIANS HANG THE CHIEFS PEOPLE NOT THE MESSENGER
I can’t think of too many IR couples movies, just jackass gonzo (“OMG, I just fucked the burglar”) kind of stuff. It would be brave to start making more of the former, not latter. The very controversy of an IR couples film might generate a lot of sales!
Also, the titles out there include “My daughter fucked a Nigga”. Why don’t they just change the “a” at the end to an “er” if they’re trying to cater to racists?
Most titles in porn are prejudiced in one way or another, interracial and ethnic titles are damn close to 100%. Maybe its a lack of imagination or maybe its shown that these type of titles move DVDs, though I’m one who’s never been big on measuring the tastes of the porn customer. A lot of product bought by stores is fairly mechanical, this line or that line or this company or that company or this girl or that girl or even title. I think we’re stuck with what we got here folks.
gee whiz why did my last comment just go on moderation?
And speaking of the Colonel’s references to the elite’s propaganda machine, I think the music industry promotes gangsta rap for nefarious reasons (to keep a man and woman down), just as the CIA gives boxes of guns and drugs to gangs in South Central (Maxine Waters has already shared with her constituents the existing evidence).
Blacks have religion, basketball and rap as ways of dealing with or escaping their condition and all these achievements are pie in the sky aspirations.
Alicia Keys has said gangsta rap is “The Man”‘s attempt to get blacks to kill each other.
Justin, what I gather so far, is that in your opinion it’s fine to act and behave like a gangster or punk or thug, and it’s fine to depict such stereotype characters in porn movies. It’s discriminating, racist white owners of porn companies who depict such image of black men, and black men must participate in making these self derogatory movies, otherwise they’ll go hungry and homeless. So basically it’s the same slavery scenario: Evil white men’s oppression over black men. I’m afraid that’s not the case. Racism still exists not in porn, but in every aspects and corners of American society, I don’t deny that. But today, unlike the 19th century, black people have more options and they can put their pride before their paycheck if they want to.
For instance Lexington Steele, Mandingo, Sean Michaels and several other black male performers do not portray themselves as stereotypical gangsters and punks and thugs. You do not see these guys in interracial gang bang movies like White Trash Whore. You too have the same option they have. You don’t want to choose that option, fine. But at least accept responsibility for your own doing and quit blaming others for your actions and decisions and playing Martin Luther King Jr. of porn valley. Good luck to you.
I don’t think MLK Jr ever had a dream about civil rights and equality in porn. I’m still dreamin’ about equality between the sexes. Sure, there are variables which can merit wage differences, but essentially it’s:
a. I have cock. Cock must stay hard or scene doesn’t exist. I must fuck with cock and fuck well for the camera person and the audience out there in the dark. Plus other variables and particulars, etc…
b. She takes the cock. While he’s doin’ most of the work at times, she must be in the moment, moan ‘oh yeah, baby’, etc, take load on face, etc.
The point is both parties are fundamentally equally essential.
If you disagree, then go hire two girls and have em strap-on fuck each other.
Jeremy Steele says:
‘I’m still dreamin’ about equality between the sexes.’
That’ll never happen, man. You know it and I know it: Porn is all about the pussy, white pussy, black pussy, Spanish pussy, yellow pussy, fat pussy, juicy pussy, etc. Now I start sounding like this dude:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3pmwrtlDaY
Pussy blow out. HAH.
I know Colonel. In other words, we males are just a bunch of niggas…
When a girl does 250-350 scenes and not a single 1 with a black guy I cant help but think she doesn’t want to do black guys (Carmella Bing for example).
colonel,
you can see my reply to your post to me from me on my article.. Not gonna let you still the light away from the cause.. Good atttemp but NOT gonna happen.. feelin the heat yet?
In fact Justin, I don’t know why you responded to our conversation on this thread on a different thread and it doesn’t even matter, because I only scanned through your comment. I don’t have time to read your long, arrogant, delusional, pompous rant, and nor that I care what you want or don’t want to do with your life and career. Only a couple of things: Don’t play smart ass by taking my words out of context and putting spin on them to further your ludicrous, racism agenda. For instance this is what I wrote:
‘Racism still exists not in porn, but in every aspects and corners of American society, I don’t deny that. But today, unlike the 19th century, black people have more options and they can put their pride before their paycheck if they want to.’
Anybody with half a brain and even less dignity will realize what I meant is that racism still exists in porn *as well as* every other aspects and corners of American society. I didn’t mean it doesn’t exist in porn, but exists everywhere else. Maybe you should go back to elementary school and finish your education so you comprehend English language more properly; or you can just quit playing smart ass.
Furthermore, as a performer you may not have control over the title of a movie, but you do have control over your appearance, your behavior and overall context of the scene in which you perform: When you dress up like a street punk and show gang signs with your hands and act and talk like a thug, it’s all you, it’s you who depicts a stereotypical image of black men as gangsters, punks and thugs. Again, guys like Lexington Steele, Mandingo and Sean Michaels don’t do any of that. You do that, so man up and accept the consequences and realize that some people don’t like that behavior and refuse to associate themselves with the likes of you. It’s your character and actions, not the color of your skin. Gangsters, punks and thugs come from all colors and races. Some people accept and/or tolerate them, some don’t. You have no right to demand personal and social acceptance regardless of what you do and how you represent yourself. The Justin Long I knew was a kind, friendly and polite man; but now with every crazy rant you sound more and more like a bizarre, desperate attention whore. Not the man I want to know anymore, but still I wish you luck. I also wish you would get a life and act like a 40 year old man that you are.
P.S: Stop writing entire sentences in capital words to get your Martin Luther King Jr. message across. That makes you look like an illiterate, spoiled teenager.
So i know you but you have to address me here? Hmmm .. second then don’t put “Not” in your rasicm rant and in front of porn and try to pull an attonrey trick. Come out and say it bold “racism exist in porn” and then quit trying to pretend that black people in porn created that racism soley by doing what the white man pays and demands of us.
To bad you didn’t have the balls to readt my entire writings. Maybe right thier that is the problem. However you say we should stand up, and people like you would be understanding. I am standing up. You sir are not understanding and haveen’t even payed me the respect I have shown you. I read your rant, and its the same rant that most companies owners (white yell) but it is not in contrast with what white performers that work with blacks say (why is that).
If you would had read my writings then you would see that lex and sean and all the others have been right thier and been on the same movies. So quit trying to say that haven’t. You have never ONCE seen me throw a gang sign LOL.. are you stupid? have a done a west side for cali.. yep your damn skippy and so have white performers. Its not restricted to black. And yet you are MY FRIEND but no real name.. LOL you are’nt my friend. Personally I think this is ron mr. jeremy him self. Am i right? Deduction from your post has led me to this. If it’s not ron then i appologize to ron as I am having to guess.
Guess we wont find out unless you take your mask off and say who you really are. Stand behind your words and lets see if lex and sean and marcus or any of the other black talent think you are such a good and classy citizen after this. Wht i’m saying is put you name to the words commin out of your mouth. As in previous comments on my thread i think people that speak out on such an important topic or at all for that matter and hide thier true identity are pretty much pussies.
Guess what I’m the same guy. I’m nice and courteous and when you knew me (OK whoever you are) I was yelling the same shit in public, and shooting the very movies you now want to say are the root of the prolem. To bad you didn’t read my writings and see i called out LA Direct and Goldstar becuase ALL talent know just as you do (wether you admit it or no is no concearn) that they ultimately begin the process of blacks being discriminated against.
You can call me all the names you like, but the bottom line is I am not the one hiding behind some punk ass screen name. Take a stand for what you believe are to be true statments and words that you have written and PUT YOUR FUCKIN NAME TO EM. Otherwise go back to your office and bitch and moan about the FACTS that i am sitting here writing.
It’s fact that LA direct has 2 black talent out of 146 talents buddy. Nothing arrogant about that except for the fact that derrick thinks he can do it and not be called on it. Why? Becasue he caters to people like you. I dare you to put your name to this shit. Don’t burn a cross in my yard and where a hood. Rather light that cross and with your very oppresive smile look me dead in the eye and all blacks and remove your hood and then spew that shit.
Lex and sean and marcus and all them might continue to work with you for financial reasons but at the end of the day they will be doing the same thing you are doing now. Talking shit behind closed doors. Never forget I have talking to ALL of them about this exact thing and they agree my friend.. nothing arrogant about that statement.. its fact..
Justin Long
Adult film star
PS why you startin your own thread anyway. the subject was open and you had no restrictions on lenght of comment. So in the words of someone who didn’t agree with me (and thats fine) Mr. pot meet Mr. kettle he’s white
All of this minds me of a movie, and for the life of me I cant remember the name of it.
There is a black army sergeant. He hates the southern ignorant blacks. He describes being in France in WW2 when the allies liberated Paris. The french women had never seen a black man before, so the white soldiers put a tail on him and made him dance on a table like a monkey. the black drill sergeant then says…..”He asked us what he did wrong when I slit his throat.”
Justin, just in case you couldnt figure it out, you have been the guy dancing on the table for your entire career in the porn industry. AND YOURE PROBABLY STILL ASKING YOURSELF WHAT YOU DID WRONG.
And regarding those FACTS you keep talking about, heres another one.
FACT; Justin Long feels very strongly about the racism that exists not only in porn, but in society as a whole. But for the right price he will belittle his own people and perpetuate any stereotype you want him to. But dare not point this out to him or he will accuse you of being in the KKK.
Joe Knows you are a classic cat.. LOLOL.. stereo types dont make people racist… you know what does though? Thoughts like yours. You hurt me so bad. Never been called a money before, by anyone but a white person.
The fact is, is that there are real thugs and gang bangers that are in porn. It’s not a stereo type they are portraying. Its actually who they are. Next you will say Ice cube ripped down the blacks by acting in “friday” or “boyz in the hood” did johnny deep do your race a dis service by playin in pirates of the caribbean and being a dirty pirate who slept with women and lied and cohersed and stole and violated laws?
Get real. Notice this is the only arguement you guys have. Deal with the facts. IS it or is it not racial discrimination when a girl is givin the oppurtunity to choose her co-talent based soley on race and color? the anwser is yes. Is it racial discrimination for an agent to charge more for his talent to work with black men then white men? the answer is yes.
you guys wanna keep skirting the issue and blame ME (haha no worries though)for all the racism that YOU even agree exist in the industry. Racism existed in this industry longggggg before i got here buddy. You are the porn cosumer!!!! lets see what titles you have in your house.
Companies make the type of porn that people buy. It’s not an issue of racism, is’t an issue of economics. Anything else to say on the subject is plain and simply pointless. In the end the ONLY thing that matters is what consumers will buy. Period.
Justin says,
“The companies puttinmost of this crap out are not owned by black people. 99% are owned by white people.”
thank you for confirming what I wrote above…..You have been dancing for the white man your entire career. You still dont get it, do you Justin? Just like the women in this indsutr are exploited everybday, and suffer the humiliation to get that paycheck, blacks have been exploited in an equal manner, and blacks, like the women, will do anything for that paycheck from the all powerful white man. Maybe there is more equality than you realize Justin.
then you say, “I dint even know the title of the movie when we shot it.”(Fresh Hot Tamales)
Are you trying to say you wouldnt have done it if you had known? Of course not. You didnt care then and you dont care now becuase you got your check and the check cleared.
You do know the title now, you know that it has racist overtones, and still you promote it on YOUR OWN website. It seems like its ok for Jstin to perpetuate racism for his own pocketbook, but not anybody else.
Justin, try to answer this:
Why do you promote videos with purely racist overtones,like “Fresh Hot Talmales” on YOUR OWN WEBSITE?
Lets see if Justin has the guts to admit that he promotes the racits stereotypes for money. Because we all know thats the reason.
Justin….His words say i despise racism, but his wallet says let it slide as long as it puts some benjis inside.
Jstin, to compare great movies like Boyz in the Hood, and Friday to the crap that you do is total bullshit and you know it.
And for the final time, YES YES YES racism is rampant in the adult industry. We all agree with that.
You just cant accept the fact that YOU, as an individual, are doing as much as anybody to perpetuate that racism by knowingly and willingly participating in it, with a smile on your face, as that evil white company owner who just cast you to play thug #1 in the next “Ghetto Gangbang,”
And Justin, you claim to have all this support from other black performers, but I dont see them posting here.
Justin, you have made a carreer out of the very racism you seem to despise.
And Justin, in that movie i made a reference to, it was a BLACK character who clalled the other black man a monkey. You know full well I didnt call you that. What i have called you here is an uncle tom, who will do the bidding of the white man at the expense of his own people, for your own profit. I guess if I was a producer who paid you to do a film then I could call you a(insert racial slur here), as long as my check clears, right Justin?
Joe Know,
you have quite the knoweldge of the industry for a fan. I think you to should own a company. You’re trying to skirt the issue. The issue is not “is thier racial derogatory titles” I HAVE AGREED and the fact remains that I alone have not acted in all those movies.
Friday is no differnt. It depicts black people in no diffent lightt than movies i have been in. Boyz in the hood doesn’t depict black people any differnt then movies i have been in.
YOU are not getting it i think “i do get it” I have always got it. I have always said it was wack. We all have, and yes I earned my living and put myself through school while doing it, and yes i have been yelling exactly what i am yeelling now the WHOLE time. Don’t sit thier and think you are smarter cause you think you have a point that I and all blacks have known.
I’m glad you have acknowledged that thier is racism. So now help change it. Cause sitting thier saying that blacks don’t deserve the right because they have played the game (even though we dont agree with the game) is a cop out.
Personally I think we agree on most. But i’m standing up for change and always have. Since i came back in 04′ i hvae been yelling change and your god damn right yelling it all the way to the bank. Blacks have to eat to joe, and sometimes because of this jacked up world we have to play the game in order to eat. SO, unless you are in our shoes and have walked a mile or two, you should probably just write opinion instead of thinking you are an authority on the matter.
Cause when it comes down to it. You dont buy our movies (obviously cause you dont like the names) and so there fore you dont watch our movies and so their for how in the hell you gonna act like you even kow whats in em? Uncle tom owww you hurt me so deep.. LOL.. this froma dude that sits at home jerks off to porn and then thinks he’s a expert on race relations in porn and thinks he knows what it’s like to be a black person at that in porn and then wants to critize even though you agree thier is racism in porn.
How would you even know what it’s like to be discriminated against if you’re white joe?
I wont respond on this thread anymore but will respond to you. This thread was created to do nothing but pull attention away from the real problem which is “racism and discrimination against blacks in the adult industry”. Don’t look now joe but whatever you think of me. You still admit thier is racism against blacks in the industry, and Joe that includes me..
Justin, resorting to the name calling adds nothing to your already weak argument.
And I do agree that racism exists everywhere.
But will you agree that you have personally contributed to the degredation of your own people for nothing more than personal financial gain? Just like most females in this industry degrade themselves for a pay check, you degrade your own race for a paychek. And I dont think thats what MLK was dreaming about.
Its willing participants like YOU that make it easy for the evil white man to make m0ney off of blacks degrading their own people.
ANd one more thing Justin,
You have NO CLUE whatsoever if I am just a fan, or work in the industry, or even watch porn at all. But I do know a heck of alot about the porn industry, regardless of where that information comes from. Your feeble attempts to belittle me(you just jack off to our movies) is just that,,feeble.
You dont like what I am saying about you because what I am saying is just as true as what you are saying. I have NEVER participated in producing something that is derogatory towards anybody(race, gender etc) Too bad you CANT say the same….It might add a little weght to your argument against racism if you didnt degrade your own race for a paycheck And how do you know that I dont buy your porn. Masybe I am one of those racists who loves watching black folks like you make fools of their own race? After all, isnt that the demographic of people you make your films for, the racists whites who want to see the tabooo black on white films? I just may be one of your biggest supporters, white hood and all.
There you, my man, I red your entire rant this time, and here are my two cents:
Justin Long: So I know you but you have to address me here?
The Colonel: I wasn’t addressing you or any particular individual; I was talking about the issue of race and racism in porn. If you got the idea that my article is about you, perhaps that’s because you either don’t have a good grasp of English language, or you’ve become a self center egomaniac who thinks the world revolves around him and everything is about him.
Justin Long: Don’t put ‘Not’ in your racism rant and in front of porn and try to pull an attorney trick. Come out and say it bold racism exists in porn.
The Colonel: I’m not pulling any attorney tricks, I wrote what I wrote. If you don’t have a proper comprehension, or if you’re suffering from ADD (Attention Deficit Disorder) and can’t follow long written sentences that’s your problem. Or perhaps you tried to play smart ass by taking my words out of context and putting spin on them.
Justin Long: Too bad you didn’t have the balls to read my entire writings.
The Colonel: It’s not about the balls, partner. It’s just that I don’t have time, reason or interest to read every crazy rant you write to defend and justify your irresponsible behavior and racist opinions.
Justin Long: Remove your hood and then spew that shit.
The Colonel: You got me there, you found out about my hood right when I called you on your bullshit. You’re correct, I have a hood and I wear it all the time. I only take it off on Saturdays, and that’s when I put on my Nazi uniform and go to synagogue.
Justin Long: Why you startin your own thread anyway?
The Colonel: I’ll start whatever thread I want, whenever I want. I don’t need anybody’s approval and permission for that.
Take care and have an anger free Sunday.
P.S: I suggest you start your next rant like this: I have a dream…
Keli says:
‘Companies make the type of porn that people buy. It’s not an issue of racism, isn’t an issue of economics. Anything else to say on the subject is plain and simply pointless. In the end the ONLY thing that matters is what consumers will buy. Period.’
Right you are dear, it’s all about the money. I’m sure Justin knows that , too. He’s just auditioning for the main rule in the upcoming porn parody *Not Martin Luther King Jr. XXX*.
I have a dream.. A dream that all white women will be judged not by the color of their skin,or the content of their character, but by the size of their booty.
This is a serious subject, but I dont see the black community lining up behind Justin in this fight. True leaders lead by example, not just words. Justins actions speak for themself. HIS OWM MYSPACE PAGE HAS A RACIST MOVIE ON THE FRONT PAGE. That voluntary action alone outweighs all of the words Justin is spewing. Justin want all of the acolades, but without any sacrifice. Stop doing racist porn yourself Justin, then maybe you can preach to the rest of us how we discriminated against you. Justin lives by the motto…do as I say, not as I do.
Colonel, rest assured, when you make your “Not Malcom XXX” there will be black performers lining up around the block to participate. (but watch out, behind your back they will be calling you a racist cracker as they drive to the bank to cash the checks).
Holy shit, several posts back and forth and the Colonel and I arent going at it. Maybe hell is freezing over, or maybe we’re both just being honest.
Have an anger free Sunday Colonel…I’m sure there will be other forums for us to go back at it, but not today.
Listen y’all, being a nigga no longer has anything to do with race. We niggas got to stick together. When Princess so and so is hired and says “I won’t work for less than _,_ _ _, producer says “Ok, no problem we’ll just knock off _ _ _ from nigga #1, nigga #2, nigga #3”, etc…
My name is Norman Rae, check out my “Union” cardboard sign. It’s time for change, like Obama said… I have a dream…
… but then I woke up… and back to work again….
Joe Know says:
‘Holy shit, several posts back and forth and the Colonel and I aren’t going at it.’
You know I was thinking the same. But hey, there’s a time for war, a time for peace and a time for having fun; and we wouldn’t want to miss any of it. Cheers to you.
Everybody, I have an announcement to make: From now on you may address me in my full name and title: SS Colonel Adolf von Übermann AKA Da Hood. Now if you excuse me, I have to take my uniform to laundry and prepare it for the next Saturday when I’ll be wearing at synagogue. Casting for the upcoming porn parody Not Martin Luther King Jr. XXX will begin immediately after the prayer ceremony.
Colonel always delightful reading your postings. This ass clown is such a a self loathing person. He wreaks of racism. Here is a quote from this stupid psychos rant.
“How would you even know what it’s like to be discriminated against if you’re white joe?”
First of all I want to be real clear here I am Joe Truth. Not Joe know.
I wanted to be clear cause I know this pissed off black man is real stupid.
Justin you have know idea what it is like to be white and experience life. You are not white and cannot speak for whites.
Your pathetic and it pisses you off that you cannot intimidate or control what people post or what threads are stared. HA HA LOL!
What time is the prayer ceremony colonel?
Thank you Joe, I also enjoy reading your comments and chatting with you.
I still believe Justin Long is a good guy. However, he’s got confused between his daily job which is banging chicks on film and his *Martin Luther King Jr. complex*. In case if Justin reads this, and most likely he does, I’d like to remind him that the dominant color in the porn valley is neither white nor black, it’s green, the color of money. Once he comes to terms with this reality, he’ll feel more comfortable in his skin.
By the way Joe, the prayer ceremony will be held on next Saturday morning. If you’re planning to attend, please wear a hood or a Nazi Uniform.
You know what???
After reading plenty of “Joe Know” screeds here, I’d wonder whether he is really a fan of porn, a porn exec who simply has a vendetta against Justin Long for making a stand against racism in IR porn while getting paid from the same sources…or, (s)he’s simply a paid agent for Gail Dines and the antiporn feminist crowd who runs the “Blacker than thou” meme to smear ALL Black male performers who do IR as “degrading all Black men”.
Then again, knowing his newly found BFF The Colonel and his historics favoring Shelley Lubben and Mike Weinstein, it wouldn’t surprise me to find out that Option #3 is closer to the truth.
You may call it a “Martin Luther King Jr, complex” all you want, Joey…but this Black progressive porn fan calls it a courageous stand against what has become a virtual third rail of discussion that cuts deep into the adult media.
Maybe Justin did do some very degrading IR vids and get paid well for them. Is it his fault that he had to take what the producers were offering at that time? Why the hell aren’t you just as hard on the COMPANIES who make even more money off the backs and dicks of guys like Justin?? I guess that they don’t quite fit YOUR sudden “Black nationalist” complex, maybe??
And so, so funny for you to attempt to project your own racism towards Justin by merely accusing him of being a racist for….what?? Refusing to do scenes with White girls?? I guess that female starlets like Hyapatia Lee, who openly refused on openly racist grounds, to do scenes with Black men, should also be blackballed with equal intensity too…but all I hear about that from you is the sound of crickets.
I will agree with one thing only: merely not doing scenes with Black men is NOT necessarily a sign of racism, any more than a Black performer choosing only to perform with other Black performers. Who knows what motivates a performer’s decisions as to what movies they will do or what scenes they won’t do….I can crticize them to my heart’s content, but ultimately it is their decision and theirs alone. If I don’t particularly like that person’s decision, I can simply choose not to patronize their videos…that’s the power of the purse.
On the other hand, if what Justin is saying about porn companies and agents dissuading their White female talent from doing Black male IR scenes until they are “more financially feasible” happens to be true, then that is solely the fault of the companies themselves for their policies…and THEY, not the performers, should be the ones held accountable for their actions. Simply dissing Justin for making a stand does nothing but shift the blame and distracts the issue at hand.
Unless, of course, you happen to believe that ALL interracial porn is innately racist and “degrading” and that any Black performer who even performs in one should be sanctioned as a traitor to his race. If that’s so, then I’m totally expecting The Colonel and Joe Know to be featured lecturers at the next antiporn feminist summit…right along with Mike Weinstein and Shelley Lubben and Donna Hughes and Gail Dines.
I’ll say it again: Don’t hate the players….hate the game.
Anthony
Anthony,
YOU HAVE A VERY VIVID IMAGINATION.e
You should put your talent to better use, perhaps writing fiction novels.
And that dont hate the player thing,(isnt that what they say in junior high school) goes both ways. Dont hate on Shelley and her crowd just because they are exercising the same rights as you.
And to answer your question,
“Is it his fault that he HAD to take what the producers were offering at the time?
This is too easy. YES it is his fault for CHOOSING to take those rolls.
Oh…did I touch a raw nerve there, Joey??
My “vivid imagination” is not the issue here, friend. Your inanity is.
I guess that you would just as well that there be NO interracial porn (or any porn to think of) if every artist had to abide by your politically correct standards of accepting roles. I guess that you will also be boycotting LeVar Burton for playing Kunta Kinte/Toby in “Roots”, or the actor who played Tonto in “The Lone Ranger”, because they played roles that would be considered to be “subservient” and “degrading”, too. Or, are we only talking about the porn here??
I hate on Shelley Lubben for the same reason I hate on other right-wing wannabes or fascists like Rush Limbaugh; because she exploits the tiny extreme and makes them out to be the supposed “norm” in order to promote her reactionary agenda. Mostly, though, I do it because I consider her to be dead freakin’ WRONG on the fundamental issues. I could care less that she exercises her free speech rights; that’s her entitlement as an American citizen. When she puts forth lies and saw stories to promote herself, then it becomes my issue to correct her with MY free speech rights. Too bad for you if you can’t understand that.
Also….as to the “well, he didn’t HAVE to take those roles, but he CHOSE to and thus he must be held accountable for them” meme: funny, but I fail to see where Justin Long ever denied that he did choose those roles….mostly because it was a choice between that and going humgry. But, I guess that there should have been a third choice that would have been more suitable to you: just quit porn altogether, convert to whatever brand of fundamentalist Christianity or “radical feminism” is the flavor of the day, and rant on about how porn inevitably abuses Black men by turning them into wild rapists.
Now there is also a fourth choice that hasn’t been discussed at all: how about getting together and making interracial porn that doesn’t suck and doesn’t play to those nasty stereotypes?? Does the name Nina Hartley ring a bell, Joey?? She has specialized in performing progressive interracial porn for the past 30 years as a pro performer, and she has been a constant fighter for both Black performers’ rights AND for a more erotic and humane IR genre. But, since she happens to be a White woman and she chooses to remain in porn to fight the battle to improve it rather than abandon it, she doesn’t meet your standards, right??
At least my “vivid imagination” is based on fact and truth. Your excuse??
Anthony
I noticed you conveniently ignored my comparison of the adult industry to the television industry….
I don’t expect you to know this , but FYI I’m a published writer and journalist. Writing isn’t what I do just in my living room, for outside of my living room I work in broadcast media. I have a degree in Journalism and Communication Media and perusing an MFA in Fiction.
I compared one media industry to another. Porn will have to have the same wake up call, television, film, and now print has. The studios are shooting themselves in the foot with an archaic mindset.
“Mostly because it was a choice between that and going hungry..”
As if PORN were the ONLY option available. Isnt that the same argument that the right wing nuts spout about why women are forced into porn, becuase they have no other option? You have just defined exploitation. And EVERYBODY in porn is being exploited.
And again, your attempt to discredit what i say by placing the right wing relious nut label on me is a very WEAK tactic. YOU are doing the very thing that you accuse me of doing.
And your comparison of porn to the epic Roots, is vile and disgusting. ROOTS is perhaps the perfect example of how media can be used to enlighten and educate people about the EVILS of racist discrimination. Porn, on the other hand, glorifies the stereotypes and offers no relevent message about the evils it portrays.(but thats what porn is)
And por Justin, he had no choice but to particpate in the degredation or prnography or go hungry. YOU SOUND ALOT MORE LIKE SHELEY LUBBEN THAN I DO!!!!
And yes, I think justin should have taken your third choice, “quit porn altogether” and use that college education he claims to have for something productive. No need to become a right wing activist, just a contributing member of society would be enough. Look at Justins ‘carreer’ and ask yourself,,,,”Could he have done better for himself?”, and “What has he contributed to society/”
I ask myself these questions everyday, and I like my answers…….
BlasianBytch says:
‘I noticed you conveniently ignored my comparison of the adult industry to the television industry.’
And I noticed you inconveniently ignored or perhaps did not understand the opening of this article where I explained no such thing as *the adult industry* exists, neither literary nor figuratively. We refer to the business of making pornographic movies as *the adult industry* only for lack of a better word. Therefore, you cannot compare any other industry (music, Hollywood, TV, etc.) to the business of making pornographic movies. You can only analyze this business based on its own specific merits; and since you are not a producer who invests and profits from this business, your personal opinion of it doesn’t matter, even if you had published some of the stuff you write in your living room and had sold 500 copies.
Colonel,
Right again. I too use the term adulTet industry, but only for lack of a better term.
Television actors, directors, producers, cameramen, sound techs, etc. etc. have unions, guilds, insurance, and legal agents.
Musicians have a union, for god sake there is a magicians guild.
What does the porn industry have? LATATA.(do i need to go on here lol)
This industry supposedly makes more money thtan mainstream Hollywood, and all major sports combined, yet the induestry still make the performers pay for the tetsts that they reqir e to cover their asses(producers) And then AIM raises their prices on the talent to cover the cost of their lawyes who are fighting to keep the names of producers from getting to OSHA. Are all of the performers to ignorant to see that they are footing the bill to protedt the producers from their liability?
Performers pay for the tests.
Performers pay for their own treatment when they get ill.
Performers pay for lawyers to help producers remain anonymous and not pay the cost of what hapens on their sets.
ALL PERFORMERS ARE BEING EXPLOITED. BLACK WHITE MALE FEMALE, OR ANYTHING IN BETWEEEN.
Sorry colonel, I couldnt help myself.
I didn’t overlook it, I was disagreeing with your stance, perhaps if you gave some clearer defined reasons why there is no adult industry I’d be more inclined to believe your claim, so far. I really don’t see how you can say there is no adult industry , when I see a text book definition of an industry and all its parts working in the adult industry you claim does not exist.
As someone that works in TV, your description of the ” not there” porn industry sounds a lot like the TV/Movie studio system.
I would say that my opinion does count as I’m a potential consumer and producer of that profit that runs the phantom adult industry.
Ms. Bytch,
The word industry infers some type of cohesion, working togethear on issues that face everypone in a particular industry. Movies, and television actors have unions and guilds that deal with issues like equal pay and healthcare for their members. Sports teams have uniouns and rules committess to make the game fair. Hospitals have information sharing protocols in place so they can ALL benefit from advancements in medicine that are taking place e all over the world. Ato companies share safety technology with one another to make all cars safe, not just their own.These are just a few reasons why so many in the adult industry will agree that there is not an indusstry, like in other lines of business.
The porn ‘industry’ has none of this. It is a buch of every man for himself seperate entities. And they wll all stab eachother in the back just to get their peice of the pie. Performers have NO recourse with any unions when they get ripped off, or when they get life changing diseases.
And while you may write pornographic stories to educate and to make your political statements, or to motivate people spritually, I doubt that the consumers of your material are looking for political or spiritual enlightenment.
BlasianBytch says:
‘Perhaps if you gave some clearer defined reasons why there is no adult industry I’d be more inclined to believe your claim, so far.’
See Joe Know’s response. I don’t feel I have to add anything more to that.
The notion of *the adult industry* is an illusion, a term the likes of AVN use in order to publish magazines and set up conventions and rip off producers and fans. It’s a joke, and a very bad one.
I agree with both Joe Know and the Colonel. this is a business of making CASH $$$$$.
When one owns several companies whether it be a production company or post production company or a distribution arm for either novelties or the almost dead DVD market. Or several retail stores through out the country.
We do this to hedge against a downward trend in any market.
That way we can still maintain income and cash flow.
But when a company in this adult business fails, other companies do not rush to aid or assist the other in any form of a coalition.
That simply is not going to happen. So the term industry really does not apply. That is the way it is and always has been in this thing.
The beauty of it is you are FREE to take YOUR money and put it up and go for it. This is YOUR FREE choice. But you DO NOT have a right to dictate to others what to do with THEIR $$$. And that seems to bug some of you.
Sorry your socialistic, political correctness does not fly here. Freedom to CHOOSE does though and we all like freedom right???
When you brag about your fantastic college degree or ability to make money, then how are you relegated to performing just porn to keep from going hungry.
Let alone care for a family?
Sounds like some are not being self reliant and responsible. Yes the evil RESPONSIBLE word… woo scary if your irresponsible.
And that’s the truth.
Hi, I’ve never posted here before.
Some are comparing the porn business to movies and TV. Actually, a closer approximation would be to the gambling or liquor business.
What you guys do is exploit the human sex drive. Hey, cool with me, I like to watch a little porn occasionally. (So much porn is free that I don’t know how you guys stay in business.)
I would say that your business operates at the lower rung of the hierarchy of liquor, gambling, and the strip club business. A few decades back you would have all been in jail and maybe me too. Nowadays, because of the compulsive demand of human sexual nature, you guys have actually created a sort of niche for yourselves in the entertainment world.
However, the idea that there is some kind of moral component like the civil rights struggle in the porn business is ludicrous.
Look, I like to look at a little porn once in a while, and I think that some of you are nice people and intelligent people. But the Colonel is right — the only virtue that can be ascribed to your business is such virtue that exists in capitalism and free enterprise.
A million years ago, I knew people in the Southern Christian Leadership Conference (Martin Luther King’s organization), and the would have laughed their heads off at the idea of a civil rights struggle in the porn business.
Duke says:
‘The only virtue that can be ascribed to your business (porn) is such virtue that exists in capitalism and free enterprise.’
Welcome aboard, partner, you made several excellent points and hit the nail right on the head. I’ll look forward to reading more of your comments and chatting with you.
Bravo!! Colonel, another good article! You hit it on the nail!! Now I just don’t give a flying fuck, Pussy is pussy and as long as it is tested!! I’ll fuck it in front of the camera!! I just don’t give a fuck what color the girl is, Just as long as she has 2 id’s for 2257 paperwork and a AIM test. It’s ON!!!!!!!!.
I have a dream…..That fucking shooting season will kick off hard and me and tiffany tanner will start knocking out fucking shoots really quick!!! Fuck!!
Hey folks her is what Michael Richards says on the subject:
Ever wonder why Whites are often described as Racists, and no other race is…..?
Proud to be White
Michael Richards makes his point……………….
Michael Richards, better known as Kramer from TVs Seinfeld does make a good point.
This is excerpted from his defense speech in court, where he found himself after making racial comments in his comedy act.
He made some very interesting points…
Someone finally said it. How many are willing to say this, in today’s political climate?….
…..There are African Americans, Mexican Americans, Asian Americans, Arab Americans, Indian Americans etc.
And then there are just plain old Americans.
You can pass me on the street and sneer in my direction. You call me ‘White boy,’ “Gringo’, ‘Roundeye’, ‘Cracker,’ ‘Honkey,’ ‘Whitey,’ ‘Ofay’, ‘Charlie’, ‘Caveman’… and that will be generally accepted, that’s considered “OK”…
Conversely, however, when I call you: Nigger, Spic, Towel head, Sand-nigger, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, Jap, or Chink .. You are outraged, you call me a racist, and modern society joins in the chorus behind you.
You say that whites commit most violence against you… so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?
You have the United Negro College Fund. You have Martin Luther King Day.
You have Black History Month. You have Cesar Chavez Day.
There are organizations like Yom Hashoah and La Raza. You have Mauled Al-Nabi. You even have Kwanzaa. If we say “Merry Christmas” it is now considered offensive.
You have the NAACP. You have BET…. If we had WET (“White Entertainment Television”), that would surely be labeled racist… If we had a White Pride Day, you would call us racists.
If we had White History Month, we’d be racists.
If we had any organization for only whites designed to ‘advance’ OUR lives, we’d be racists.
There is a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce…. and then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce which welcomes all people.
A white woman could not be in the Miss Black American pageant, but any color can be in the Miss America pageant.
There are over Sixty openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US .. Yet if there were ‘White colleges’, that would surely be racist.. And Lawsuits would follow!
If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships… You know we’d be called racists.
In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. Yet if we marched for our race and rights, you would call us racists, and the Press would echo that. And the politicians would give speeches against us..
You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you’re not afraid to announce it. You even band together under the banner “People of Color”.. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists..
You rob us, carjack us, rape us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or Latino drug dealer, criminals clearly posing a threat to society, you call him a racist, and he is prosecuted for doing his job, for protecting us.
I am proud of my heritage…. But you call me a racist for saying that.
Think about it!Why is it that only whites can be accused of being racists??
Now… There is nothing improper about this e-mail.. Let’s see which of you are proud enough and courageous enough to send it on? I sadly don’t think many will. And those that do forward it, will do so very carefully, worried that it will offend somebody… That’s why we have LOST most of OUR RIGHTS in this country. And we are losing more every day. Because, We won’t stand up for ourselves!
Right on Rick, it’s always great to hear from you. Keep up the hard work and take care of your whores in Florida. All a whore needs is some good old fashion lovin’.
And to answer your title question, Colonel. “Is the Industry Racist?”? No. The Industry is not racist, only (some) people are. “The Industry” is too much of an abstraction to have any individual characteristics.
Here I am trying to sound smart again…
yawn, goodnite.
Hey Colonel Thanks bro. But I am back here in the valley living with Tiffany Tanner and get ready for shooting season to “kick” off and and let then camera’s roll!! Her and I have been booked for some great stuff were going to be knocking out. So what’s up with you man?? are u going to be directing and shooting some content this year?? Let me know and me and Tiff will perform one for you!! ok Have a godd weekend here in LALA land.
Colonel, thanks for your generous appreciation of my comments.
(And a salute from the Navy… you outranked me…)
You know, there are things that are respectable even if they are not admirable. I respect the fact that most of the commentary I read here by people in the porn business is not embellished with a lot of affectations. One gets the impression that people do what they do and don’t try to pretend that it is anything else.
Some of the remarks about racial sensitivity would suggest that the porn business has an intention of social redemption.
I think the racial sensitivity crowd is trying to pretend that the porn business is something more elevated than it actually is. You guys have taken vice mainstream. OK, this has been done with gambling, with liquor, and may be excusable. But none of your performers is casting for a role in To Kill a Mockingbird. Porn is what it is.
So if porn is questionable, at least one can appreciate it for authenticity.
In the end I would rather be a sex addict working in the porn business than a gambling addict living in Las Vegas. In the former case I would make a lot of money and have a lot of sex, and in the latter case I would be bled dry and swept out with the refuse.
Duke says:
‘Porn is what it is.’
You brought up a very interesting point, my friend, the point that I always make when discussing porn. Indeed, porn is what it is: Graphic depiction of intimate sexual acts in order to entertain, stimulate and gratify the audience. Period. Porn has nothing more or less to offer, and nobody should expect anything more or less from porn. Most people, the adult industry workers and fans alike, are aware of this reality; while some struggle to interpret porn to what it’s not and can never be and turn it into a device for getting artistic statements and/or socio-political messages across. These people are not comfortable with who and what they are, and are confused about the nature of their profession.
Some months ago, Sasha Grey stirred controversy when she tended to go to a Howard Stern show wearing a Palestinian flag. Stern refused to allow her on his show, and said: I don’t need somebody who sucks cock for a living to lecture me about the world’s political affairs. What Sasha Grey tended to do was desperate, ludicrous and mindless, similar to what Justin Long is trying to do with his act of boycotting the adult industry. They both need to get adjusted and more comfortable in their skin, or they better start looking for a career somewhere else: Sasha Grey can move to The Middle East and becomes Hezbollah’s spokesperson, and Justin Long can apply at Wal-Mart.
I didn’t know Sasha Grey did that, Colonel. I think what she did was awesome, and I completely disagree with you and Howard Stern on this. First of all, aren’t you contradicting yourself, since you’ve written a lot about conpsiracy, the new world order, etc? It’s not desperate, ludicrous and mindless on Sasha’s part. It’s obviously something she believes in, and with reason. The ABUSES that Palestinians have endured because of the Fascist Zionist Israeli policies is an intolerable outrage, and the controlled corporate media of the U.S. keeps it’s silence because of the powerful pro-Israeli lobbyists and pro-Israeli/Jewish media. “Anti-semitism” is NOT the issue when one criticizes Israel’s right-wing foreign policy, just as criticising Bush or Obama doesn’t make you anti-white, anti-black or anti-American. In fact, while Israel’s treatment of Palestine is evil, the most number of songs written dealing with subject of peace has been written by Israeli citizens; more than any country in the world.
Howard refusing to allow her on the show is beyond fucked-up. How many times has Howard had on jackass KKK member Daniel Carver, as he starts spewing his “nigger” hate? Yet Sasha is not allowed her freedom of expression on his show? What’s he afraid of, that she might actually be right?
Sasha, although she to my understanding works alot, still has found time to devote to researching the issues our corporate, politically controlled media refuses to. I commend her for that. In fact, porn stars, although we’re just legal whores, have more time on our hands than the average 9-5 wage slave, which gives us the opportunity to learn things and specialize in matters other than just sexual. More people should put their free time to better use than just mindless and trivial entertainment which serves absolutely no one but the egos of those who participate in their productions.
I enjoy your write-ups about the illuminazis, Colonel. But don’t be a hypocrite and support the censoring of a fellow member of the porno industry’s right of free speech and expression.
Also both you and Howard have both mentioned and/or got into some details about how the official government sanctioned conspiracy theory about 9/11/01 is bullshit.
What gives?
p.s. Cindi, I’m curious why this comment went to “moderator approval needed” status.
As we both know Jeremy, LIB is and has always been a place to discuss adult oriented issues, including but not limited to porn. That’s why every now and then and between my usual porn related articles, I write an article about the world affairs. That can’t be compared to what Sasha Grey tended to do on Howard Stern show; she was invited to a comedy show to specifically chat about porn. Everybody knows the nature of Howard Stern show: Comical, outrageous and weird. Howard Stern show is not the place to make serious socio-political statements, unless you’re an attention whore like Sasha Grey. I don’t want to get into Arab/Israeli conflict on this thread, but let’s just say if Sasha Grey feels so strongly, she can take a trip to Gaza strip and meet with Hamas and Hezbollah leaders up close and personal. If she’s lucky enough, they will ask about her political opinion before burying her in the sand up to her nick and stoning her to death for being what they view as an *adulteress* and *infidel*.
Listen to Howard Stern’s response to Sasha Grey:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBe1Sp74EKc
Classic Howard. I love this guy.
If the Howard Stern show is not the place to make serious socio-political statements, then explain this:
Here’s Robin saying that Bush knew, and Howard saying a missle, not a plane, hit the Pentagon, and that the government is lying to us: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETWZleOqtSs
Like “Where’s the beef”, Howard asks “Where’s the plane?”. But there’s no Herve Villechaize to tell us.
Here’s Howard interviewing Jesse Ventura about Iraq, 9/11, that the Gulf of Tonkin incident (which began the Vietnam War) never happened, etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFZZEiNNKXU
Entertainment is great and, for it’s purposes, important but nothing but entertainment and NEVER taking the time to discuss and debate important issues is deadly for all of us.
There’s a big difference between Sasha Grey and folks like Daniel Carver and the Phelps(god hates fags) Family that are on Stern. The latter two groups are retards…wack pack material. Sasha Grey? Why couldnt she flash her tits and promote her movie, but working with Steven Sodebergh makes her an advocate? Bullshit. The people who Palestine should be pissed at is not the Israelis but the Jordanians, Iraqi and Syrians who deep down consider Palestinians a lower caste of Arab. They dont want them, so they combine their anti-semitism with a solution to the Palestine issue, all a fraud. The nation that is really getting screwed is Lebanon. Damn convienent for all parties involved, they can fight their wars there, and the Hezbollah can hide there like cowards. The UN should be up in arms over Lebanon and not Isreal and Palestine.
Why is Sasha saying Howard is a closet racist? Does she provide any explanation for this, and if so, where can I read or view it?
It seems you’re not too familiar with the P/I history, Larry. They’ve been raped, repeatedly.
http://conspiracyrealitytv.com/us-funds-zionist-israeli-control-of-palestinians-occupation-101/
Jeremy Steele says:
‘Why is Sasha saying Howard is a closet racist?’
Because Sasha Grey is a moronic attention whore and talks out of her ass. Quoting dead philosophers and wearing flags of foreign countries and sucking Steven Sodebergh’s dick won’t make her intelligent.
And Larry, I agree with you on the Palestinians issue.
I have to remind you my friends that Palestinians sold their lands to Jews in the first half of the 20th century. Those lands were bought by Jews, not occupied. The government of Israel has always had strong ties with the government of The United States and American corporations; but let’s not forget and/or ignore the historical facts because of our anger and hatred of The U.S government and corporations. This is not an abstract, black and white issue.
To paraphrase Gary Coleman, Whatchu talkin’ about, Colonel?
Palestine bought by the Jews? No, the majority of Palestinian land was given to them via UN resolution after WWII, including the best and most fertile land.
It is a literal occupation, the whole country is a sprawling 3rd world prison camp, people are cut off from each other, can’t get access to health care and hospitals, etc. You should check out the documentary link I put up above, as well as this site: http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/zionism/zanda.cfm
As the article and Rabbis against Zionism have also said, anti-semitism is the oxygen that fuels Zionism. It is “Machiavellianism raised to the highest degree”.
Also Zionist bankers funded Hitler. Hostility and war towards Jews stems from Zionism.
Jeremy Steele says:
‘Palestine was bought by the Jews?’
Yes my friend, the majority of Palestinian lands were bought by migrating Jews. Here are some historical facts:
Jews started to migrating to Palestine and buying lands there since the beginning of 20th century with the intention of founding a country and government of their own in the place where they viewed as the biblical land of Israel. Following World War I, The League of Nations (LON) was established, an inter-governmental organization founded as a result of The Treaty of Versailles in 1919–1920, and the precursor to The United Nations (UN). The League of Nations granted Great Britain the Mandate for Palestine and the responsibility for establishing *The Jewish National Home* within it.
In November 1947, The United Nations (UN) voted in favor of the partition of Palestine, proposing the creation of a Jewish state, an Arab state, and an UN-administered Jerusalem. Partition was accepted by Zionist leaders but rejected by Arab leaders, leading to civil war. Israel declared independence on May 14, 1948 and neighboring Arab states attacked the next day. Since then, Israel has fought a series of wars with neighboring Arab states. In recent years, Israel has signed peace treaties with Egypt and Jordan, but efforts to resolve conflict with Palestinians have so far only met with limited success due to ongoing conflicts mostly caused by Palestinian terrorist organizations.
From what I understand, you’re making the same mistake that many other anti corporate America make: Because of your anger and hatred towards the capitalist establishment, you knowingly or unknowingly side with anybody and everybody who opposes corporate America and its allies. For instance I was checking out Alex Jones’ Infowars.com and other alternative news sources in the past few days; and I was amazed to see how they all pick lines from Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s recent UN speech and interviews in which he criticizes *new world order*. Mr. Jones and others must keep in mind this man is a lying, murderous, thieving scum who imprisons, tortures and kills his citizens everyday and while his country is on the verge of total bankruptcy, continues to support Muslim extremists around the globe and send them millions of dollars in donations so they buy weapons and be trained to become suicide bombers. Let’s remain logical and objective, and let’s not defend, justify or support one evil because we object to another.
As of 1947, Jews in Palestine owned UNDER 7% of the Palestine’s lands, and after the 1948 war 80% of the Palestinian people were DISPOSSESSED of their homes, farms, and businesses.
The nation of Israel has the 5th largest nuclear arsenal in the world and is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. aid since World War II. They receive over $3 billion per year from the U.S. taxpayer which is about one-fifth of the total U.S. aid budget.
In March, Mahmoud called the September 11 attacks on the United States a “big fabrication” that was used to justify the U.S. war on terrorism “and a prelude for staging an invasion against Afghanistan.”
He’s right, and while neither I nor Mr Jones condone anyone who tortures and kills their own citizens, he does make some accurate statements.
Zionism and Fascism have a lot of similarities:
The great masses of the people will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one.
Adolf Hitler
Any alliance whose purpose is not the intention to wage war is senseless and useless.
Adolf Hitler
I do not see why man should not be just as cruel as nature.
Adolf Hitler
I use emotion for the many and reserve reason for the few.
Adolf Hitler
If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.
Adolf Hitler
It is always more difficult to fight against faith than against knowledge.
Adolf Hitler
It is not truth that matters, but victory.
Adolf Hitler
Strength lies not in defence but in attack.
Adolf Hitler
The great strength of the totalitarian state is that it forces those who fear it to imitate it.
Adolf Hitler
The leader of genius must have the ability to make different opponents appear as if they belonged to one category.
Adolf Hitler
The very first essential for success is a perpetually constant and regular employment of violence.
Adolf Hitler
What good fortune for governments that the people do not think.
Adolf Hitler
Palestine lands were and always will be the home of Jewish people. In fact Jews were generous enough to pay Arabs for the lands that belonged to them in the first place and even accept an Arab state in their motherland. If anything, it’s Arabs who occupied those lands during the crusades. It’s Arabs who destroyed The Temple Mount and built their mosque on its ruins; and it’s Arabs who keep on waging their *jihad* on Jews and the rest of the world by teaching their children to become suicide bombers. They have no right to be in Palestine, never did and never will. Either they must put down their Holy Quran and their explosive vests and accept the peace agreement, or continue this war to their bitter end, the war they cannot win.
The day I need a lying, murderous, thieving terrorist scum like Mahmoud Abbas or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad lectures me on the evils of the west and/or the new world order will be a cold day in hell. If I ever have to choose between two evils, I will certainly and without a shadow of a doubt choose the lesser of two evils which is west.
Extensive and intensive Zionist propaganda says Jews are the original inhabitants of Palestine and that they’re simply recovering the lands of their ancestors. This claim is false on a theological and historic basis, and a violation of international law.
Zionism and Judaism and diametrically opposed to each other. The first is Godless.
Judaism is non-violent spiritualism. Zionism is violent materialism.
Rabbis against Zionism: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEvm4sd0HQs
Also the first suicide bombers were Zionist, not Muslim.
“God is not in the business of using the military to bring His vengeance on individuals”- The Prophet Jeremiah
Anyway, back to Sasha, assuming that what you and Howard are saying about her is correct, that should be even more reason to have her on the show. If she’s just crazy or an attention whore trying to sound intelligent it makes for even better entertainment. I’m suprised, since she’s so “mainstream”, that he’d not have her on the show, regardless of what she says or supposedly believes. Strange.
Colonel, I know you are part Jewish but the Temple Mount was not destroyed by Arabs. Biblical Judaism ended with Roman domination at the end of the 1st century CE. Most of the Jewish people were expelled by the Romans. Meanwhile, circa 700 CE, Muslims built the Dome of the Rock in order to revere the Prophet Muhammad who visited the traditional site where Abraham nearly sacrificed his son Issac. The Dome of the Rock is holy site in Islam. You could say that it was inappropriate for the Arabs to build upon sacred Jewish land, but they were following their own religious convictions. The won that right through conquest but you also gotta remember the ancient Hebrews also conquered the land of Canaan through genocidal conquest.
You could argue that the Jewish people have an perpetual right to the land of Canaan–but then you have to admit that Yahweh exists and that His covenant with the Jewish people is real. Otherwise, national borders are established as a result of conflict or consensus.
Rabbis against Zionism, fucking traitor scumbags who are on The Islamic Republic of Iran’s payroll and get paid to deny the holocaust. They’re as full of shit as Muslim extremists, and I would not pay any attention to anything they do and say.
And back to Sasha Grey, yes, as me and Howard Stern stated she’s a crazy, illiterate attention whore. As to why Howard Stern didn’t allow her on her show, lets’ just say that’s he’s show and he has the right to decide who to invite and who to kick to the curb.
Origen my friend, it’s good to hear from you, I always enjoy reading your comments and chatting with you, whether we agree on an issue or not.
Let me explain this to you: After Jerusalem was conquered by Arabs, they destroyed the remaining of The Temple Mount and built The Dome of Rock at its place. The Dome of Rock is not the place Arabs believe Abraham took his son Ishmael to sacrifice for God, that’s al-Hajar-ul-Aswad AKA The Black Stone, and is located in Kaaba, Saudi Arabia. The only time Jerusalem is mentioned in Quran and Islamic literature is where it talks about how archangel Gabriel took Prophet Muhammad from Mecca to Jerusalem and from there to the sky to meet with Allah overnight. According to Muslims, The Dome of Rock is the place from which Prophet Muhammad was ascended to the sky. Muslims used this brief mention of Jerusalem in Quran to justify building The Dome of Rock. Jerusalem has no other relevance and significance in Islam.
Regardless of religious beliefs, the historical facts indicate that Jews were the residents of Palestine, and lived there for centuries before those lands were occupied by invading Arabs. Therefore, they have the right to migrate to their motherland and establish their independent state; and no amount of stone throwing and suicide bombing can ever take that right away from them.
True, true. I was wrong.
Rabbis against Zionism are scumbag traitors?
Well, I guess I won’t go into the “dancing Israelis” arrested after being caught filming the 9/11 attacks from a rooftop and then celebrating after the first plane crashed into the WTC. It turns out they were Mossad operatives, and while interviewed back on Israeli t.v. they said they were just there to document what was happening that day. Funny how the U.S. just shipped them back without any hassle after they found out who they were with. If they had been arabs they’d still be in Guantanamo being tortured…
BTW, good article Colonel!
Jeremy Steele says:
‘Rabbis against Zionism are scumbag traitors?’
What, you didn’t know that? In 2006 The Islamic Republic of Iran held an anti Semitic conference in Tehran in order to attack Israel and Jews and deny the holocaust; and these scumbag traitors were among the speakers of that shameless conference. They receive generous donations from The Islamic Republic and several anti Semitic groups and organizations.
Look man, we agree on many issues: America is owned and run by the corporations, The Elite assassinated John F. Kennedy, moon landing was faked, 9/11 was an inside job, etc. However, I cannot fall from the other side of the roof like some people do and defend and support Latin American dictators and Muslim extremists and suicide bombers and fringe cults just because I don’t trust my government. I cannot and will not do that, especially when it comes to an issue like Arab/Israeli conflict, because I believe Jews have every rights to be in Palestine and Arabs have no rights. Hopefully we’re clear.
Thank you Origen, stop by and chat more often.
I have an insatiable curiosity to know why Rabbis would allegedly participate in an “anti-semitic” conference. Their reasons, whether right or wrong, would be entirely interesting.
I agree that Jews have every right to be in Palestine but not that Arabs have no rights. That’s to the right of right wing.
There are currently over 4 and 1/2 million Palestinian refugees scattered around the Middle East who should be living comfortably in their homes. Their houses have been destroyed along with the systematic destruction of roads, bridges, power and water plants, ports, airports, and their whole civilian economy. It is a tragedy that these people have been robbed of their land, but through the occupation and the daily abuses, they have been robbed of what little dignity they have left. Human beings who goes through suffering and humiliation will reach a point where death is more favorable than life.
There’s a book titled:
Breaking Ranks: Refusing to Serve in the West Bank and Gaza Strip by Ronit Chacham Here’s a review:
On January 25, 2002, a letter was published in the Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz in which 52 Israeli army reservists asked their fellow soldiers to join them in refusing to serve in the occupied Palestinian territories of the West Bank and Gaza Strip. (More than 500 soldiers have now joined in their cause.) They believed that the 1993 Oslo Accords between Israel and the Palestinians were being violated by Israel. The soldiers were disturbed by what they called “the force they were expected to use as soldiers against a civilian population collectively penalized for its uprising against the occupation.” Their letter was intended to persuade Israeli Jews that unwarranted violence against civilians threatened Israel’s existence and eroded the Zionist principles in which they had been raised. In conversations with Chacham, nine so-called “Refuseniks” tell why they disobeyed orders to serve there, citing the wrongdoings of the Israeli army.
Several courageous Israeli reservists who have refused to serve in the illegally occupied Palestinian territories captured by Israel in 1967 tell why they have chosen not to serve. They are part of a group of several hundred Israeli reservists who have said that they will serve within Israel’s 1967 borders but that they will no longer fight beyond those borders to “dominate, expel, starve and humiliate an entire people.” Many of these brave reservists spent time in Israeli prisons for their principled actions.
The reservists speak of the brutalization of the Palestinian people by the Israeli army, a brutalization which in turn brought about the anger of the Palestinian people toward them and toward Israeli Jews. They speak of the humiliation faced by both young and old Palestinians at the ever present checkpoints when young Israeli soldiers would torment Palestinians by tearing up their required identification papers, making them sit in the hot sun without shelter, sending them back home even when they had a permit to visit the doctor or go to school or occasionally beating them just for sport.
This book is a real eye opener for those who get their information about Israel and the occupation from the main stream corporate press. It serves to help readers understand more of the Israeli/Palestine conflict and it is also important because it shows that there is a segment of Israeli society that knows that the occupation is reprehensible and unconscionable. They have been there.
And back to Sasha, although there’s no need to belabor the point, Howard’s schtick includes being an equal opportunity offender, making whackos famous, asking hot women about their bowel movements, and even, at times, calling the government out when it is obviously and egregiously lying to us.
You say Howard has his reasons. I would like to know what these reasons really are for not having her on the show. If she is crazy, stupid and an attention whore than why would Howard miss such a great and fun opportunity to participate in letting her prove it? Is she being crucified by Howard the way Howard has been crucified by the FCC?
This only suggests the unbelievable as possibly being true: that a Zionist media will not tolerate anything which threatens it’s image. But to feel so threatened has to mean there must be some element of truth in what she stands for. Not that Howard’s a racist, because I don’t think so. It seems that you and Howard might have an irrational hypersenstivity to anything which criticizes anyone or anything Jewish. So I guess, just keep the entertainment to attacking blacks and gays, because that’s ok!
It seems our little chat continues. A couple of points, my friend:
Jeremy Steele: I have an insatiable curiosity to know why Rabbis would allegedly participate in an ‘anti Semitic’ conference.’
The Colonel: Then I suggest you contact them via phone or email and ask them about it. Regardless of what they might tell you, their action speaks louder than words. There are only two words to describe a Rabbi who is on The Islamic Republic of Iran’s payroll: Scumbag traitor.
Jeremy Steele: I agree that Jews have every rights to be in Palestine but not that Arabs have no rights. That’s to the right of right wing.
The Colonel: That’s neither left nor right, that’s simply the truth. The truth can be unexpected and even unpleasant, but it can’t be labeled as left or right.
Jeremy Steele: There are currently over 4 and 1/2 million Palestinian refugees scattered around the Middle East who should be living comfortably in their homes.
The Colonel: Their homes, what homes? Those Arabs never belonged to Palestine in the first place. They’re descendants of an invading army that conquered Jerusalem through war and bloodshed; and now that they’re finally kicked out of the lands their ancestors once occupied, they can start over somewhere else with the support of their *Arab brothers* or they can cry me a fucking river.
Jeremy Steele: You say Howard has his reasons (for not allowing Sasha Grey on his show).
The Colonel: I didn’t say that. I said it’s Howard Stern’s show, and he has the right to decide who to invite and who to kick to the curb. There’s no law to compel Howard Stern to do what he doesn’t want to do on his own show.
In any event, it’s interesting how this discussion started by a brief mentioning of Sasha Grey and her intention to wear a Palestinian flag in a radio show. What’s more interesting is that I assure you Sasha Grey doesn’t know shit about Arab/Israeli conflict and its historical roots. Even if she knew a little to some extent, she still wouldn’t give a shit. The only reason she tended to wear that flag was because she thought it’s a cool, lefty, trendy thing to do. For devil’s sake, man, she’s half our age and sucks cock for a living. What do you expect from her, to become the next Ernesto Fucking Che Guevara? That’s right, and I have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn.
Enjoy your Sunday. Last night I got so drunk. I’m still dealing with the hangover, but if I feel better, later on I might take one of my porn whore friends to watch Iron Man 2, even though I don’t expect it to be anything outstanding or even as good as the first Iron Man.
I think it was wise of Howard Stern to bump Sasha Grey.
If Sasha Grey were funny, then it might have been interesting in the category of a dancing bear, or a guy who boxes kangaroos.
If she were interesting, articulate, and charismatic, it could have entertaining in the way some eccentric scientists or bizarre novelist could be interesting.
However, Colonel, I’ve looked at the YouTube that you directed us to and some other YouTubes. Frankly, Sasha was neither funny nor interesting.
You might as well get some stripper from Modesto to lecture us on Ballanchine or Pucini or something.
I think she would have been both boring and offensive, and people would be changing stations so quick that the sponsors would wonder what happened.
I presume she’s very interesting to watch in her sex scenes. And if, say, Nina Hartley had something to say, one would assume that her years and experience might have made a slot worthwhile.
(I’ve read that Iron Man 2 is not as good as Iron Man 1.)
I haven’t been to the site in a while, so there may be reference to this, but in this discussion of prejudice and intolerance where is the mention of Arizona’s SB 1070? I understand a person’s desire to shed light on things they believe in, but in this discussion not one person in the comments brought AZ’s law up. Let’s be clear: regardless if you believe what happens in porn is an injustice, people in Arizona will be subjected to harassment by law enforcement on the basis of their appearance. The question I would ask Justin is, do you really give a shit about equality, or equality as it relates to you and your life?
In regards to Palestine I’ll say that I’m an ethnic Jew, about as ethnic a Jew as there is. I’m a Cohen which means I am a descendant of Aaron; this can be proved with DNA testing. I do not support Zionism and a large amount of my family lives in Tel Aviv. A great documentary was made a few years ago called Occupation 101, which is on you tube. It doesn’t contain quacks, it contains unbiased academics and historians. I think everyone should watch it. If Noam Chomsky thinks Zionism is wrong then someone who believes it is right should at the very least listen to what one of the world’s most brilliant men has to say about it.
You’re absolutely right, Duke, Sasha Grey is neither entertaining nor intelligent. Unfortunately, she’s not even a good, passionate porn performer either. In her porn scenes, she’s like a robot going through the motions. Check out any of her scenes on VOD web sites like HotMovies.com or AEBN.net, and the chances are you’ll stop watching after 5 minutes. The only reason for her fame, as I stated before, is that she happened to be in the right place at the right time: She started her performing career one day after she turned 18, and in her very first scene which was produced by Evil Angel she performed with Rocco Siffredi. That created a hype wave which she’s still riding. The truth is that every decade the adult industry finds a poster girl to promote as its *breakthrough star*. Sasha Grey in the 2000’s is what Jenna Jameson was in the 1990’s. They have several things in common: None of them are any entertaining or intelligent, none of them are good performers and none of them enjoy having sex on camera.
A performer like Nina Hartley for instance enjoys everything she does, she has no pretence and no holier than thou attitude. She’s simply doing what she loves to do on camera. Sasha Grey, on the other hand, has a completely different take on performing. I wish I was making this up, but it’s true: In an interview with vbs.tv, she compared performing in porn to the job of gladiators in ancient Rome, and said what a porn performer and a gladiator have in common is that they both put up a show for the audience’s enjoyment, but they themselves don’t get any joy out of it. There you go, the smartest girl in porn; and I still have that bridge for sale in Brooklyn.
I’ve also red Iron Man 2 is not as good as the first Iron Man. I might eventually see it, but my money is on Ridley Scott’s Robin Hood which comes out next week.
When I saw the commercial for Robin Hood, for some reason I thought “Gladiatorhood”…
I also saw that MSNBC encore on the porn industry today, saw myself for a good several seconds talking to and photographing Max Hardcore right before he turned himself in. As far as I know, I’ve been seen in the PBS and the ABC specials as well, maybe I’ve missed some others? Makes me feel famous :p
Anyway, I’ve listened to Howard longer than Sasha’s been alive and I don’t know if anyone knows why she said he’s a closet racist. Does she not understand his humor?
I wonder how many times Howard has boffed Robin Quivers…
Btw, thanks for the input on the P/I issue, Al.
Jeremy Steele says:
‘When I saw the commercial for Robin Hood, for some reason I thought Gladiatorhood.’
I got the same thought, man, it’ll be awesome. It’s good to see Russell Crowe in an epic, incredible and mucho role again. He’s been keeping a low profile for the past couple of years. I didn’t like his recent movies except for Body of Lies. It was a good, solid spy movie directed by Ridley Scott, but the thing about Russell Crowe was that he didn’t look like Russell Crowe very much; and that’s because he put on some 20+ pounds for his role. Now he looks like himself again, and I bet he’s gonna kick some serious ass at the box office.
Dig it, my dudes:
Robin Hood Behind the Scenes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fKYA48Ts24
I didn’t really mean “Gladiatorhood” as a compliment, Colonel. It looks more like “Gladiator goes to England”, not Robin Hood. And how many of the actors are actually English? Any? Think of all the out of work British actors who’d, in the spirit of Robin Hood, do a great job, although, Max Von Sydow is always a good choice, regardless. I know Director Ridley Scott and Crowe are good buddies from the Glad-he-ate-her days, but I can’t see a burly Crowe as a swift and dashing man-in-tights type. He doesn’t seem to be the leader of a bunch of merry men, neither. I do look forward to seeing how he’ll steal from the rich and give to the poor, which is pretty much the opposite of modern day Capitalism.
Also I think you meant “macho” role, not “mucho”… or maybe you meant “mucho macho” role.
I suggest everyone check out 1938’s “The Adventures of Robin Hood” with Errol Flynn and Olivia De Havilland. I’m sure it will still stand as the best Robin Hood of all time, despite Scott’s cinematography, special effects, modern day box office revenues and and yadda yadda hype.
How can you not appreciate a masterpiece like Gladiator, Jeremy? Besides, I don’t see what’s wrong with casting Russell Crowe as Robin Hood. He’s one of the few movie stars who can transform himself from one role to another and deliver a believable performance, something you can relate to; and there are not too many *stars* who can do that nowadays. In my book, Ridley Scott + Russell Crowe = a good movie watching experience.
And what do you mean by saying: ‘I do look forward to seeing how he’ll steal from the rich and give to the poor, which is pretty much the opposite of modern day Capitalism.’ Man, you better take it a bit easy and stop reading too much into things. A summer movie has to be well made and entertaining, it doesn’t have to be inspiring and revolutionary and get the socio-political messages across.
P.S: The Adventures of Robin Hood is indeed a good movie. I also recommend Robin and Marian starring Sean Connery as Robin Hood.
I liked Gladiator, though Braveheart was more of a masterpiece, all around. I just think Robin Hood looks and sounds just like Gladiator, but we’ll see.
I’m just reminding what I think Robin Hood stands for…
Colonel, you have to check out “The Pacific”! Its kinda slow depicting US Marine battles on Guadalcanal and Glouchester but its jaw dropping when it comes to Peleliu, Iwo Jima, and Okinawa. We really get the sense that war is hell.
*Two books to have about the Marine Corps Infantry:– “Jarhead” by Anthony Swofford and “With the Old Breed: At Peleliu and Okinawa” by Eugene Sledge.
So the Pacific Theater finally has a good war movie. Only took about 55 years. Next we gotta make a good ‘Nam film (Full Metal Jacket and Apocalypse Now just don’t capture the intricate experiences of the war) and do something about Korea.
In fact Origen I love The Pacific and watch it every week. I have to admit at first I had my doubts as to how would it measure up compare to its predecessor Band of Brothers; and I wasn’t quite impressed by the first episode. But then it got better week after week. My most favorite episodes are Peleliu and Okinawa which was aired this Sunday, the part where Marines enter the village and find that crying child was truly gut wrenching.
I hope Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks continue their historical tradition by making a series about Vietnam, although now the raise is too high.
The thing you have to remember about Robin Hood is that he was stealing from the sheriff of Nottingham and other fat cat people in government.
Ayn Rand used to use Robin Hood in a perjorative sense, and she can be excused for not bothering to think through her metaphor. But the fact is, Robin Hood was not stealing from producers. He was stealing from people in the parasitic sector.
Then he would return money back to the beleaguered, overtaxed citizen.
It would be a little bit like someone returning money back to the 35% of the population of LA who pay taxes.
I’ll be very interested to see how Russell Crowe plays this role. I think he could nail it.
Why hasn’t Spike Lee complained that Robin Hood should be black? Call it “Robbin in da Hood”.
The Pacific illustrates finally how weak the story was behind “Band of Brothers”, those guys were in combat in Europe less than 200 days I guess, the Marines? Probably three times that. Same goes for US Divisons in Italy and that had to slug through North Africa and Sicily too, and of course the hell of The 1st Infantry, The Big Red One. And the Japanese and Germans they fought, fought til they died or were captured. The Russians? Probably the worst fate of all, they were probably thousands who were released from jail to fight and when it was over ended up back in the Gulag. Hanks and Spielberg should do a movie about the Russo-German War, the most brutal conflict ever.
You’re spot on, Larry, the battle of Stalingrad was one of the bloodiest and most brutal conflicts of World War II, and it has never been properly depicted in a movie or TV series. However, I don’t think Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks make a movie about that or any other German/Russian conflicts, because come to think of it, first of all that will be highly expensive. Secondly, if the language of the movie would be English, that’ll look cheesy and contrived. If they tend to make the movie authentic and its language would be German/Russian, then it must be represented with sub-titles, and that will turn off many viewers; just like what happened to Clint Eastwood’s Letters to Iwo Jima: The entire movie was in Japanese with sub-titles, and although it was a great movie, but it tanked at the box office mostly because of its language.
Speaking of The Pacific, tune in to HBO tonight for the series finale which follows the story of Marines after they return from war. The Pacific is one of HBO’s best series ever, and set the raise too high it seems unlikely any other series can top it off anytime soon.
The one German film from ’92 “Stalingrad” was pretty good. Though the Armorer should get a F. It was also hampered by the fact it was filmed in Slovakia, but one could never film in Russia in the same kind of weather as the battle. The cast and crew could’ve dropped dead. I couldnt take “Enemy at the Gates”. Lots of War movies screw up with the Germans, they show tons of German soldiers, when in fact almost all the time they were outnumbered. I’m glad Eastwood made Letters From Iwo Jima, thank god he had the pull to do it. Part 9 of the Pacfifc was awesome, Okinawa was the worst, bloodiest battle the US fought in the War. It may be the bloodiest, fiercest combat the US has ever encountered, which includes the bloodbaths of the Civil War, Korea(there’s an idea for Hanks and Speilberg) and Tet in Vietnam. Of course Spielberg could make a 10 part series on the Holocaust, Schindler’s List was not a usual story. I could map it out for them. Show the Lithuanians, Latvians and Ukranians helping up rounding up and killing. The German Army using Jews as Hostages to be shot for reprisals and dispossessing Jews and shipping them off for funds to finance their occupation. Etc.
Speaking of German war movies, the best I’ve seen in recent years is Downfall (Der Untergang) which depicts the final ten days of Adolf Hitler’s life in his Berlin bunker and Nazi Germany in 1945. The movie has an authentic, true, apocalyptic mood and gives you a very realistic sense of what was going on in the last days of Nazi Germany. Bruno Ganz delivers a brilliant performance as Adolf Hitler and his final struggle to maintain his sanity and his empire. I highly recommend this movie to everybody who loves historical drama.
Here is Downfall trailer:
On a different note, last night I saw Robin Hood, and man it delivers: Good story, great directing and fabulous actions sequences. I knew it’ll be one hell of a movie. The next 2010 movie I’ll look forward to is Inception, directed by Christopher Nolan and starring Leonardo DiCaprio. Here is the plot:
Leonardo DiCaprio plays a skilled thief whose job is stealing valuable secrets from deep within the subconscious during the dream state, when the mind is at its most vulnerable. His ability has made him a coveted player in the world of corporate espionage, but it has also made him an international fugitive. He’s being offered one last job that could give him his life back but only if he can accomplish the impossible–inception. Instead of the perfect heist, DiCaprio and his team of specialists have to pull off the reverse: Their task is not to steal an idea but to plant one. If they succeed, it could be the perfect crime. However, no amount of careful planning or expertise can prepare the team for the dangerous enemy that seems to predict their every move, and eventually all hell breaks loose.
Here is Inception trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z75o-F6ja2I
Mind binding, both literary and figuratively.
Der Untergang, launcher a 1000 You Tube spoofs. Great movie.
Fegerlain, Fegerlain, Fegerlain!
Bruno Ganz got screwed Oscar time, of course he was playing Hitler. Valkyrie surprised me, it wasnt great, but not bad. The detail was damn good, except Smolensk. Kenneth Branagh gave one of the worst performances of his career, sad considering the great performances of most of the cast.
You know Larry, I also had mixed emotions about Valkyrie: I didn’t hate the movie, but couldn’t care for it, either. Bryan Singer as usual did a superb job at directing, and performances were good overall. Perhaps my major problem with the movie was Tom Cruise in the main role. He has become one of those cliché movie stars who are not believable and have no flexibility to transform themselves from one role to another. Therefore, it doesn’t matter what character he plays and how good he plays it, you just can’t get passed the idea that it’s Tom Cruise you’re watching. Tom Cruise, the couch jumping scientologist millionaire playboy:
Regarding the youtube video : “This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Harpo, Inc..” You must have tried to put up the Oprah interview…
Hey Colonel, Do you think Hitler really committed suicide? Logically, he had prepared for the worst, just like the SS used a retarded patsy to start WWII. The secret story behind Fascism and Hitler is really interesting. It includes Prescott Bush, IG Farben, Henry Ford, ITT, J.P. Morgan, Rockefeller, Chase Bank and International Bankers. Without Hitler there would be no Israel, so I guess Arabs have to hate Hitler more than Jews do, at this point.
Check out the Swastika building in San Diego (it finally got demolished, though):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biq2H8geWEo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyN1O-GwALI&feature=fvw this is kind of funny
Yes Jeremy, I put up the link to Tom Cruise’s couch jumping video. The video was there when I put up the link, but not anymore.
Must.Be.A.Conspiracy.
Regarding Adolf Hitler, I believe he committed suicide; he was stubborn enough to do that. He saw himself and Nazi Germany as the embodiment of an Utopia, and when Americans and Russians were closing in on Berlin in the spring of 1945, he realized his dream was falling apart. Therefore, he wanted to die and burn down the entire Germany with him, and refused to surrender and negotiate for peace. For better or worse, he was not the kind of man who would escape to a tropical island and live in obscurity.
However, the story of the rise of The Third Reich is different from its downfall: Several capitalist bankers including Rockefeller, J.P Morgan, Prescott Bush, etc. financed and supported Hitler and Nazi party, mainly because they saw Hitler as a puppet to use against The U.S.S.R and communism. Never in their darkest dreams could they imagine Hitler and Nazi party will turn against them and become an unstoppable killing machine and destroy the entire Europe.
In fact, the story of the rise of The Third Reich is similar to the story of the rise of Islam and Prophet Muhammad: In the 6th century, Roman Catholic Church tended to expand its empire and conquer Arabia. One major obstacle in their way was Jews who had been living among the pagan Arab tribes for centuries. So The Catholic Church hired a corrupt, uneducated, unemployed man named Muhammad and supported him to invent Islam, convert Arabs and kill the Jews. Muhammad did just that, but after his death, his descendants built an Islamic empire and eventually turned against The Catholic Church and started The Crusades. History often repeats itself.
DNA tests show Hitler’s skull fragment was of a woman!
Also, several prominent Nazis, including “architect of the Holocaust” Adolf Eichmann and “Angel of Death” Dr Josef Mengele, did flee to Argentina.
And the arrival of two U-Boats in the South American country in the weeks after the war led to more speculation that Hitler joined his former underlings there.
Here’s some interesting links:
http://www.news.com.au/world/dna-test-shows-hitler-skull-is-that-of-a-woman/story-e6frfkyi-1225780429861
http://www.hitlersescape.com/
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread207413/pg1
Stay tuned while my previous comment awaits approval.
Meanwhile, it looks like they missed Porn Stars on this list:
http://finance.yahoo.com/career-work/article/109560/7-jobs-in-which-women-out-earn-men
Jeremy Steele says:
‘DNA tests show Hitler’s skull fragment was of a woman.’
And dental tests confirm it was Hitler himself. Apparently he had several bad teeth, and had done a number of root canals, extractions, etc. The dental record of the corpse matches Hitler’s dental record.
After the war ended, Nazis were scattered around the globe, some fled to Latin America and some came to The U.s through Operation Paperclip. As for Hitler, there are contradicting evidences. Some suggest he fled Germany while others suggest he committed suicide. It comes down to what you want to believe based on which evidence and also based on Hitler’s character and mentality. Personally, I find the evidence of his death more compelling than the other evidence. Furthermore, he was not the kind of man who would escape and live in obscurity.
Hitler died in the Bunker, cut and dried. Lots of Nazis were able to escape thanks to the CIA and the Army, with the aid of the Vatican through Bishop Hudal. Ante Pavelic, who was the head of the puppet state of Croatia was also helped by the church to escape to Argentina. There is still a thought that if it was possible the OSS(CIA) wanted to keep Hermann Goering alive. Goering, when off drugs, was an extremely charismatic and intelligent leader/manipulater, and he was “clean” at Nuremberg. Albert Speer said it was one of the worst things the Allies did was to get him off drugs. One point about Islam, in the years after Muhammed, the Arab culture became one of them most advanced in the world, like the Western world is now. These Islamic extremists seem to forget about this now.