Oprah’s Show Title- Why Millions of Women Are Using Porn and Erotica: Lisa Ling Reports
Screen shot from a clip of the show
This Tuesday Lisa Ling is reporting on porn. I wouldn’t be surprised if Oprah used the interview Lisa did with Stephen Hirsch on it. ( The one that Shelley Lubben tried to butt into, lol) Jenna Jameson will be appearing live on stage with Oprah, and will answer her questions. I am very curious as too what slant Oprah will take with this…
Surprisingly the women writing on Oprah’s message board are overall very positive about sex & porn.. I’ll record it and let you know what happens.
From Oprah.com It’s reported that one in three consumers of online pornography in the United States are female. Lisa Ling brings us a special report on women, erotica and pornography. Then, adult film star Jenna Jameson talks to Oprah about how she became the best in the business, a New York Times best-selling author and now ranks on the Forbes Top 100 list. We’ll also hear from sex columnist Violet Blue about her groundbreaking and eye-opening article for O magazine.
Wonder if she’ll bring up the AVN fiasco, you know” I will never spread my legs for you people again”,speech.
Will Tito be locked in a cage while she talks about porn? For a woman who wants to ”get away” from the industry, she never seems to shut up about it.
Jenna was at Crobar last night.. LOVE HER!
I don’t understand why Oprah didn’t interview Shelley Lubben. Shelley’s the only woman MORE overly tanned and physically withered due to plastic surgery than Jenna Jameson.
Seriously though, Jenna pretty much has the same stance as Shelley, so why not get someone who actually does porn for sex?
And wasn’t Nina Hartley on Oprah once?
Because Jenna Jameson is one of the most recognizable names in mainstream as far as porn goes. She came out with a book that was a number 1 selling book. Why would Oprah pick anyone else? I am sure a lot of her audience would deny even watching porn, but they can’t deny they haven’t heard of Jenna Jameson.
And just because Jenna doesn’t do porn anymore, she still did a lot for the industry and no one can take that away from her.
Monique Alexander will also be on.
Jenna hasn’t been relevant in porn in years. They introduce her as the biggest porn star in the world. Once again, that hasn’t been the case in years. She told the porn industry and her fans to piss off at the AVN awards. She told every lesbian what a liar she has been for nearly 15 years by saying she’s never been a lesbian and has always been 100% hetero. Though she lived with Nikki Tyler for years.
To the mainstream now, Tera Patrick and Sasha Grey are the biggest porn stars. In porn, Jesse Jane and Jenna Haze are the biggest porn stars. Jenna Jameson got a free ride in the porn industry by having current husband be the only man she had sex with on camera. But she did mainstream interviews in 2004 after the HIV scares saying she loves what she does but didn’t want to die for it. So tell us how she could contract HIV if the only man she was having sex with on camera was Jay? All the men off camera and in the casting couches of Hollywood??
If Jenna wants to call herself a best selling author, she should write the book herself and not have the real writer writing it.
Jenna won’t say how Joy King and Wicked would prop her up and fix her up after her coke binges and strung out on drugs in motel rooms. She won’t talk about how she left Wicked for more money at Vivid. She won’t talk about how she went crying to Steve Hirsch and threw tantrums if anyone wrote anything negative about her. She won’t talk about marrying men for money and how she got current husband number 2 Jay and his family to put up the money to start Club Jenna while she lay back and take all the credit. Though she wouldn’t know how to run a lemonade stand on her own. Even Howard Levine says Club Jenna fell apart after Jenna abandoned the company after getting her Playboy payday.
Get a real positive representative for porn and not this washed up has been who is now crawling back to porn because mainstream said goodbye to her years ago.
Oprah didn’t get the memo that Jenna is no longer in porn, no longer represents porn in a positive manner unless there’s someone from the mainstream interviewing her, a fraud, and an embarrassment to all women.
Oprah looked for “success” stories involving women in porn. Whatever else one might say about Jenna, she pocketed more money and rode the gravy train longer than most of her peers. Blue, as reprehensible as she might be, wrote an article for Oprah’s magazine so of course that signifies a “success story” per their criteria, and Monique has proven she can handle her own with regard to the media in the past so she was also acceptable. If you want the “real” story behind this one, try to get Oprah’s producers to reveal who was considered for the story, who made the short list, and then didn’t make the cut… 😉
Actually, some of the Lisa Ling/Porn Valley stuff Lubben was attempting to interrupt, wound up in a report on ABC’s Nightline late last week (I’m sure if you go to the site, you can find the full segment video).
The long and short of the report was how the Porn Industry is still coping with the fallout from the Darren James HIV outbreak (linking it somewhat, to the most recent one a few months ago with an unnamed MILF performer).
Naturally, they tried to frame James’ story as that of a former male porn performer who has turned his life’s tragedy into a personal crusade to change the Porn Industry’s “unsafe” health practices. It didn’t help the other side of the debate, when they briefly speak to Sharon Mitchell who casually remarks that Chlamydia ‘sticks’ to everything and anything (thusly, all performers in porn eventually come down with it).
Likewise, in order to make this phony-baloney HIV-running-rampant-in-Porn-Valley narrative stick they omitted the fact that James contracted HIV via unprotected fucking around with trannys in Brazil…
I am sorry, but this is hilarious. I love how people are trying to take what she has done in the industry and in mainstream, because she decided to have a life outside of spreading her legs on camera. There hasn’t been another Jenna, girls are coming up and the mainstream industry is coming around to pornstars, because of JENNA.
Jenna’s Logo/Brand/Enterprise you can not talk down. She is the recognized for porn and always will be recognized for it no matter if it’s twenty years down the road. I could go to a church on Sunday and mention “Jenna Jameson” and they sure the hell would know who I was talking about.
Jesse Jane is coming up, Sasha Grey is coming up, and others, but none still can hold a candle to what JENNA has done. Anyone to claim differently is a HATER! She was successful, made tons of money, and continues making tons of money. She continues speaking out for porn! I don’t get the deal with people hating on her because she chooses not to perform on screen.
Jenna, is THEE PORNSTAR. She puts the STAR in porn, and what it really means. I wish the other girls crossing over to mainstream much success and hope they have as much if not more success than Jenna, BUT THE FACT REMAINS!! It is still YET to be seen.
This is the reason they PICKED JENNA, anyone arguing the reason they picked her is DUMB or a HATER!!!
Sweet Kisses,
Kelly
Kelly, keep in mind that even when Jenna was the most popular performer in the industry, there were a lot of vocal detractors to her work, what she herself did or did not do, and whatever limits she placed on herself. She actually cultivated this group of haters too, only jumping onto forums (like ADT) when someone said something mean or even less-than-100%-positive about her.
If you’d like to try and convert a few of the haters (as I used to try back in the day), you might do better by listing things that Jenna did, especially things she did herself without the others doing all the work, though I have my doubts that you’ll gain many new supporters from this particular crowd.
Good luck!
Perhaps Darrah should try getting a number one syndicated talkshow — and then inviting Jenna Jameson on to set the record straight on all of these issues she’s managed to sweep under the rug…like so many mainstream people have similarly done…
As in Darrah’s world, all rumors in one’s life would be on the table…so Tom Cruise would ‘confess’ about his like of men and shady pseudo-religions, Paris Hilton would ‘confess’ to being a bimbo drug addict, Richard Geer would ‘confess’ about his like of men and small rodents (lol), and Gary Busey would ‘confess’ to having been a drug addict for all of those years when he claimed otherwise!
Houston, it doesn’t concern me how she got there or who is her haters. The fact remains her name is recognized, however she went about doing it. Anyone in the entertainment industry knows bad or good press causes a spectacle. It’s the SPECTACLE that matters and being outspoken and pressing limits is what she did.
She has obviously pissed off a lot of people in the mainstream, but she isn’t concerned she got the PAY CHECK and in end she WINS.
We are here to entertain love her or hate her…She is an ENTERTAINER….She gives us what we want and GETS PAID at the end of the day. It’s a business taking it personal is SILLY.
Sweet Kisses,
Kelly
Kelly, if you didn’t care, you wouldn’t keep responding to them. DF’s main complaint is that she perceives Jenna as someone that never pushed a limit in her life (no anal, no DP, no interracial, vanilla sex, crappy company titles, marginal performances, etc.). You and I might disagree with some of the haters just as we would certainly disagree about gender topics but how one determines who “wins” says more about them than the object of their admiration. 😉
PS: DF is not in the industry, nor are most people commenting here, so that argument doesn’t really work regarding pissing off industry types.
Sammy, you’re right of course. Darrah also rails endlessly about a porn star that pled guilty to a misdemeanor paperwork charge (KK) while singing the praises of another (JL) that pled guilty to a misdemeanor yet had to serve 6 months in prison with all sorts of strings attached to her in order to stay out of jail even longer.
I define success in this buisness as surviving it, and it’s getting harder and harder for these girls, few leave with anything, lots of people have their fingers in Jenna’s pie. She may not do scenes anymore but she wont ever be able to do anything else that’s not related in some way.
Well, Jenna is writing a mommy blog and has a line of products in the works.
The products are clothes, not porn.
Don, how dare you compare Kayden Kross’ crimes to that of Janine Lindemulder’s crimes. Kayden hurt people which caused four children and their parents to lose their home. I hate tax cheats but what Janine did is minuscule compared to what Kayden did. Janine basically hurt herself while Kayden hurt children.
She has nothing to do with her new blog except for someone coming in and taking her pictures. Last updated by someone else on November 6 saying Jenna was sick. But she’s on her twitter almost everyday.
Darrah, in the immortal words of so very many people (and unlike your use of the term “many” to mean one or two people, we’re talking dozens), STFU. The most they could have gotten KK on was a paperwork charge so she saved a ton of money by copping a plea that resulted in zero jail time, she made restitution as part of the deal, and the shithead that couldn’t make his mortgage payments got a free ride.
JL, on the other hand, pled guilty to a misdemeanor when the provable facts securely pointed to a felony charge in a crime against every taxpayer involving a great deal of money, did hard time, has a bunch of restrictions against her, STILL owes hundreds of thousands of dollars to the IRS, and now plays suckers like you with ease during a contentious child custody hearing.
Shithead? I hope you fall on hard times and lose your home to a whore with a fake smile who conned you into believing she was there to help you. Or maybe have it happen to your parents so you can stand by the side and watch them lose everything they worked for to a sociopath who then blames it all on your SHITHEAD parents who couldn’t make their fucking mortgage payment and wanted a free ride.
If you don’t like what I have to say Don, don’t read what I write and shut the fuck up!
She served a day in prison and had to only pay a fraction of the actual money she stole. The rent she stole and not the amount of the entire home, leans, and loans.
Janine’s crime was always a misdemeanor. She never plead down to the misdemeanor. Wesley Snipes hasn’t paid $17 million and he has never once been called a felon.
lol
Darrah you ignorant slut! (quoting SNL)
He wanted to avoid paying on his mortgage and didn’t want to cash out on the equity he gathered over the years. People wanting to play fast and loose with their homes are not above scrutiny. Before my now deceased parents passed away, they managed to tough out some financial difficulties without risking the house, each paying off their mortgages without resorting to financial schemes such as he jumped on.
Don’t get your panties in a wad just because someone routinely shows you up for the chump you are too. If you are upset over what is written (like my comment telling you to “STFU”=shut the fuck up for the clueless), go back to that shitty blog of yours and whine some more… 😉
And no, KK never served “a day in prison”, though JL spent plenty of time there. See, Jesse gave her the money to pay off the debt (which he didn’t have to do) and she pissed it away on rec vehicles, a brand new car, and a mortgage she won’t be able afford to make the payments on. Now she, and you apparently, believe that he should shoulder all of her financial burdens over and over because she claims to be “not good with money”, and wants to get a free ride for her and that white supremacist skinhead meth distributor she married; you know, the one that can’t be around Sunny by court order…
The fact that Snipes had several layers of accountants and lawyers to take the rap for his tax issue (he went to trial for the felonies by the way, only convicted on the misdemeanors though his people are now serving ten years in federal prison) does not mean JL’s case would not have been tried as a felony either. She copped a plea bargain to the lesser charge since she had no one to hide behind, was given a big check to pay the debt and did not do so (and you know he’d have testified to that fact), and has had repeated problems paying her taxes over the years. Sorry if you want to make it sound like she’s a safe bet to raise a child by minimizing everything she has done but not many seem to swallow that load as well as you do… lol
Kayden was sentenced to a day in prison. She also spent other times in jail beforehand for all the times she was arrested because of the case & the real reason why she was detained in Australia and not because the ex stole her dog. She stole HIS dog after breaking into his home. He later got back the dog.
Wesley Snipes has a history of this and was funneling money to his friends and family. He was evading it and breaking the laws in more ways than Janine could ever dream of. He also abused Halle Berry so badly that she is now deaf in one ear because of the abuse.
Go back to your shitty reviews at the site which is the only reason why anyone reads your fucking reviews because you get the traffic from XCritic.
You only attack Janine to me because I defend her. You piss and moan about when I attack anyone in porn. But here you are attacking one of the industry’s legends. Fuck you and I hate you!
Bwahahahaha, a bit self important this morning, aren’t you?
Kayden did not go to “prison” for the paperwork scandal you cling so tightly to. She might have walked in to the local sheriff’s office to be out processed but I doubt if she did anything more than pose for a few pictures if she even had to enter the facility (again, not “prison”).
As far as Snipes is concerned, I’m sure not defending his actions over the years but in this case, he was charged with a variety of tax charges, fought several of them successfully, and is still appealing the others. JL, on the other hand, was caught red handed and copped a plea to avoid being charged with a higher level crime.
Oh, and if you ask the owner of Xcritic, he might be able to provide you with a more accurate assessment of the traffic patterns at the website but don’t let facts get in the way of your latest temper tantrum. lol
Otherwise, I like Janine and have written a great many positive things about her over the years. I’ve eaten dinner with her “post-Jesse” and she has a lot going for her. None of that means I’d grant her sole custody of Jesse’s child, Sunny, until she cleans up her act and fixes the various messes she created herself. This is the difference between liking someone’s performances (and even the person) as I do and being a slavering fanboy that idolizes said person to the point of disregarding everything stupid they do when a child’s welfare is on the line as you seem so willing to do. If she starts making decisions that show she wants at least joint custody of the child, I’ll sing her praises all day long. Given her recent exploits, I suspect it will be a long wait no matter how much I wish her well in that regard.
Hugs and kisses Darrah…
As said previously (and ad nauseum) Don, nothing in Janine’s case was or hinted at felony charges; misdemeanor from inception. The conviction was for midemeanor failure to pay taxes, NOT tax evasion.
Just so we’re clear, of course.
I sat in on some of the Snipes hearings; quite comical.
Welcome back Momatator! If you look up the tax code, you will find all the information needed to see the specific elements of the crimes discussed. Just so we’re clear, her case easily met all the requirements for either charge but the IRS has a vested interest in allowing people to plead down a case less something like Snipes’ winning take place. I still hope she gets her shit together someday to provide a safe environment for the kid but semantics on the level of her crimes against the state aside, she just isn’t making it at the moment.
And yes, you are correct regarding the Snipes case. Many aspects read like something out of a PJ O’Rourke novel. You’re lucky to have seen some of it firsthand.
In answer to DF’s lengthy tome coming at me in email (from her website?):
1) I’ve long been a huge supporter of Janine with a track record to prove it
2) It’s not a crime to be poor but it is a crime to not pay your taxes, use money given you by your ex-spouse to pay taxes on other things, and poorly manage money when there is a child at stake.
3 & 4) millions of others are not caught in as steep a financial trap due to their shitty handling of money and far fewer owe the IRS that much
5 & 6) she was evasive regarding how long she has been continuously off drugs; Jesse wasn’t a coke whore and didn’t marry a skinhead meth distributor/manufacturer
7) Jesse is the biological father with the resources to properly raise the child, was the one Janine physically attacked (not the other way around), and is able to provide the safer home for Sunny, the daughter with all those mysterious bruises ONLY when she was with her mother.
8) I asked someone following the case more closely to clarify a few issues, no one spoke up. At this time, Jesse and Sandra are the best bet to ensure Sunny’s best interests but when that changes, I’ll be just as supportive of Janine gaining equal custody and unsupervised visits.
9) Celeste made a weak, unsubstantiated accusation. Given her past embellishments, it struck a number of people as fair to ask a few detailed questions that went unanswered. You, on the other hand, refused to verify anything with an independent source well versed in their relationship as well as some of her claims regarding her works.
10) Continually referring to the Jesse Vs. Janine case as “kidnapping” shows a wholesale disregard for the facts or for Sunny’s welfare.
As an disinterested third party…
KK/JL both are guilty of being stupid porn chicks who thought they could use their bodies to get a lot more out of life that their minds could even get them in a zillion years. Granted, Kayden’s crimes have affected others more than just herself and Janine’s crimes are largely just effecting herself and her daughter — but that’s apples and oranges on the ‘pain scale’. Can’t most of us agree that they’re BOTH major fuckups who routinely have made poor decisions that go far beyond their little pathetic worlds?
Snipes for all of his problems, past and present, has suffered for his crimes (alleged or not). One look at his resume and one can see, minus the Blade franchise, for the better part of a decade he hasn’t been getting the big roles/big movies. You might think he ‘got out’ of his legal tax troubles…but like a nasty scar, they’re with him for the rest of his life.
As is so often the case, I defer to the wisdom of Sammy (even if calling him a “disinterested third party” strikes me as a bit odd).
How did this become a debate about KK & JL, I mean I did read all the replies but really the blog is about Jenna. I happen to completly agree with Darrah about Jay G being the reason that Jenna became the “super star” she did. It takes real brains Jay had them all she had were the looks, and not really that much talent. Her scenes with him were very vanilla and at least I had him to make them better.
Desirekw,
I bet that many on LIB could count on one hand…okay, maybe two…all of the undeserving porn chicks who would up being labeled ‘stars’…
I’m sure some of you viewed the original Jesse James ‘Motorcycle Mania’ reality show on the Discovery Channel. Several episodes featured Janine, and the slow breakdown of her and James’ relationship at the time of her pregnancy. She admitted on-camera to the difficulty of being in a relationship with her, and how messed-up she was. The writing was clearly on the wall. (Sorry to further derail this thread about Jenna.)
And desirekw, I disagree about Jenna needing Jay Grdina to take her to superstardom. She made a major debut with Michael Zen’s ‘Blue Movie’ in 1998, before Grdina’s arrival, but it was her and Grdina’s association with Steve Hirsch and Vivid’s co-production on the ’02 ‘Jenna loves Brianna’ that pushed her into the upper echelon; therefore, you could say that it was really Hirsch that she needed to make it big.
Third,
Are you not also confirming Darrah and now Desirekw’s assertion that Jenna didn’t become ‘Jenna’ on her own?
Be it Jay Grdina, Steve Hirsch, Howard Stern (multiple appearances, memorable part in Private Parts), or even Wicked/Brad Armstrong (Flashpoint) — Jenna has had MANY men help her in her professional endeavors.
Isn’t this revisionist history (in part by Jenna herself) what Darrah and others are quibbling about?
Well, it is to say that first and foremost, it takes porn talent with a certain amount of “it” quality to begin with. If you saw—as I’m sure you did—Jenna in Randy West’s ‘Up and Cummers’ series, then you saw an average talent with pretty average looks and appeal, in my opinion. However, she did have something going on there, and it was enough to move her on to the next level from amateur to budding star. But as with just about every porn “star,” it takes a savvy businessman or company to direct, package, and market that raw talent. Very few women have done it all on their own, and even that small group have failed to reach the topmost levels in this industry.
I’m positive that Jenna, as a young girl fresh off the bus from Vegas, strung out on meth, had much to do with the direction of her own meteoric rise to stardom. It took West to introduce her; Zen and Armstrong to establish her in the public eye; Grdina, who had his own studio and resources, to position her as a true star; Hirsch to see that and put his industry power behind her. Not to mention Playboy giving her a huge chunk of cash for which she had to do practically nothing! Jenna has learned her lessons well, from some of the best in the business.
Honestly, I don’t feel that Stern did much for Jenna’s franchise, nor has he done much for any other celebrity who has appeared on his show, apart from fueling some water-cooler chat. And her bit part in his movie was a throw-away at best. Her book, albeit a NY Times bestseller (I can only use the “car wreck” analogy in explanation for this), was a tedious read that even a true porn fan would find lackluster. The less said about ‘Zombie Strippers’, the better.
One can only explain the appeal of Jenna Jameson by saying that she was the right girl at the right time, and the stars aligned. As a spokesperson for our industry, I would hope for someone much more creatively invested and positive in her outlook. Jenna has backhanded us more than once, and it’s my feeling that she’s undeserving of her vaunted place in the media’s eye.
No disagreement over in the cheap seats!
Yet I dare say a lot of the ‘performer debates’ on LIB are over that curious abnd unique-to-Porn Valley nexus of a performer having a certain amount of undefinable ‘It Factor’, coupled with being smart/savvy enough to not sabotage one’s career as they’re in the midst of building it.
As you point out, Jenna might have once been like many a messed-up girl who arrives in LA with ‘stars in their eyes’, only to end up with ‘jizz shots to the face’. Unlike those girls who kept taking those jizz shots, Jenna managed to put the pipe down long enough, avoid the real idiots in the industry, and actually focused on her career/life (sure, you can even say she focused on THOSE WHO COULD ADVANCE said career as opposed to just being arm candy for some useless event…yet she still focused, which is more than you can say for a lot of her peers) and now she’s sitting quite pretty at the top of the porn mountain.
To the assertion Stern didn’t do much for Jenna — with that he was certainly never able to duplicate what he did for Jenna’s career with any other porn chick on his show, he still managed to make her a mainstream fixture beyond just a media sweeps-week blip or Jerry Springer circus guest.
Remember, there wasn’t this omnipresent internet back when she first started going on Howard’s show. So people who were not renting her movies, were being introduced to her for probably the first time. Whereas today, a few mouse clicks and you can get her ‘story’ along with clips of her work.
Likewise, she had no problems telling all and any gruesome details of her fucked-up life. Again, we forget how novel such confessionals were…as we now get them practically 24/7 from Reality TV and the internet.
You can’t hold the book against her, as she just didn’t have a good ghostwriter! Maybe next time, she’ll hire whoever was forced into helping Sarah Palin, Tracy Morgan, Trump or any number of celebrity-written (not) books!
Jenna was better than other girls is capitalizing on her Stern appearances than other girls (articulate and willing to talk). I remember she was dancing with Nikki and they stopped in to give a girl a lesbian experience for free publicity. I don’t remember anyone else doing that .. maybe Houston promoted her tour, but she was another that was a good, articulate guest who was invited back a million times (helped take a fan to his prom, etc).
Other porn stars who would go on the show were afraid to talk, scared of Howard and his crew, and usually just not into being there. Jenna gets so much hate, but the reality is that she is cut above the rest when it comes to speaking and that is another thing that helped her separate herself from the pack.
Yea, Freepornstarpix — Jenna wasn’t like some porn chicks I could mention, who go on Stern drunk/high with a super bitchy ‘star’ attitude. Those who get the most out an initial appearance go in ready to have fun with zero attitude, even if they’re just there for a silly game.
Jenna has easily been on a dozen times over the years and alternated with plugging her movies and formal interviews (as I think she’s been on twice now with Tito just to talk about their relationship).
Ditto for Houston, Kendra Jade and Gina Lynn (who I always hear is a bitch in person, but sure doesn’t act like one when she goes on Stern). All of these porn chicks are right below Jenna in number of Stern appearances and again, they all made excellent use of their appearances to further their careers. Even someone as fucked-up as Kendra managed to NOT go on acting like gods gift to porn and as a result, she was invited back again and again (at which point, she did go on drunk one or twice, but it didn’t count against her, as she was a good guest previously).
Now did Houston/Kendra/Gina become huge superstars able to leverage a small production deal into multi-millions? No. Yet they still wound up having longer/better careers than many of their peers at the time, so it’s all relative.
Howard Stern was a major factor in Jenna’s career. Wicked, Howard, Vivid, and Jay. They made Jenna. Jay took her to the next level. Everything Jenna has today is 95% because of Jay, his money, and business sense.
Howard made porn stars into household names. Wasn’t it even AVN that gave Howard a lifetime achievement award too? Howard isn’t relevant anymore since he left free radio. But he made stars. He put Jenna in his movie. His radio show was on the E! Channel everyday. E! put Jenna on a few of their other shows. It was the people around Jenna that made her and who Jenna was screwing around with that made her famous.
She was already known before Jay but Jay made her into a superstar and millionaire. She didn’t have the kind of money to start ClubJenna. Jay did. Without his company, Jenna would not have had her fame and money that she has today. Jenna is not a self made woman. There are many people (men) behind her that made her who she is but she will never admit to it. She’s not Oprah who is her own boss and self made.
Look at her career now. She has nothing. All her projects she bragged about never saw the light of day. She got rid of everyone around her after splitting with jay and she thinks she can do it on her own now. Well it shows just how much she can’t do things on her own.
Jenna was never the best looking, never the best performer, horrible attitude, and no personality. But the right people around her cultivated her career and made nothing into something.
If what Jenna Jameson has now is “nothing,” then nothing sure has come up in the world. All of your criticisms mean nothing in the end because you are describing porn stars. It doesn’t matter how porn stars get anywhere, the only people who care about such things are random irrelevant bloggers like you who want to obsess over such trivia. The only thing that matters is whether the movies the performer headlines move units and how much money those who hold the interest end up with. Linda Lovelace certainly doesn’t deserve to be considered one of porn’s greatest stars, but that’s beyond any doubt what she is and always will be. But Lovelace never had the minimum amount of porn-brainpower it takes to make sure when the end of the rainbow arrives, the pot of gold is there. For any of Jameson’s failings, she achieved that, and that appears to be momentous for girls in this business. It’s all relative.
If you don’t care about porn stars, then why are you on a porn blog?
Jenna has money but she’s a miserable woman always unhappy and miserable. I rather have my life than Jenna Jameson’s pathetic whoa is me existence. She hasn’t found peace in her life and will grow to be a bitter angry woman if she doesn’t. For her son’s sake, she better change quickly.
Jenna never had any brain power that you think she has unlike Linda Lovelace as you said. Isn’t her having no career now evidence of that? The Oprah interview has been the biggest thing for her in a few years. If having brain power means marrying rich, well connected men who did 90% of the work, then Jenna Jameson is a card carrying member of Mensa.
Hard to tell whose life is more bitter…Darrah’s or Jenna Jameson’s…lol!
But seriously, I don’t quite get where Darrah’s argument begins and ends (as frankly, money has never brought anyone 120% happiness, so I don’t see that relevant to the debate at hand).
Anyhow, Darrah is angry a (by her POV), lackluster female porn talent wound-up with millions and a pseudo-crossover career. Maybe I’m wrong, but I can’t think of a female porn talent who managed to have a career as big as Jenna’s — yet did it ALL ON HER OWN. No help from ANY man. Nada. Zip.
Perhaps Darrah can enlighten us all to all of the other MASSIVE female porn talents, those who made millions and are recognized as much as any C-level Hollywood talent, that presently exist in Porn Valley.
Right you are, Sammy. There are none. The whole phenomenon of the porn mega star didn’t even occur until the ’90s. Linda Lovelace’s much earlier stardom was tied to the total uniqueness of porn hitting the mainstream for the very first time, not to mention her performance of the then mythical ”deep throat” technique, which captured the attention of the entire world (seems downright provincial today, for sure).
Porn, like most forms of entertainment, and particularly the movie business, is an entirely collaborative process. No star is born in a vacuum or stands alone; it takes many individuals to create that “product” and market it to the public. A movie is crap without a good story, or great direction, and will fade quickly without proper promotion and marketing. To become a true star in porn requires the dedication and recourses that only the biggest companies possess. This explains how an average girl like Jenna has risen to where she is, or perhaps I should say was.
Darrah, the requirements for making it in porn are not beauty, personality, or skill. It is test of drive and endurance, hence Jenna beat Chasey Lain, Janine, Jenteal, all sorts of gorgeous Penthouse Pets who did porn, like Briana Banks. Any of those girls could have had Jenna’s setup had they done as they were told. Jay was with Chasey before Jenna, so she had her shot.
I think Darrah is bitter because Jenna is saying that she is straight now despite her Nikki Tyler stage.
But straight and gay in porn is realtive. Trannyfucker and Seth Dickens say they are straight too. And I bet the mope that is with Angelina Valenite is straigh too.
I don’t think Darrah can like a female performer if she can’t pity her.