Sink Or Swim
By The Colonel
Life is good in Los Angeles, or is it? In today’s crumbling adult market all we needed was another HIV outbreak leading to county and state official’s intervention. The MILF story has gone mainstream. Here are excerpts from LA Times story. Let’s read on and connect the dots:
‘An actress who works in Southern California’s pornography industry has tested positive for HIV, renewing county and state health officials’ concerns that the adult entertainment industry lacks sufficient safety measures to prevent the spread of AIDS and other sexually transmitted diseases.’
‘Dr. Jonathan Fielding, health officer for Los Angeles County, said Wednesday that his office was launching an investigation.’
‘Officials from the state Division of Occupational Safety and Health also said they will look into the circumstances of the case, which is the first publicly confirmed HIV infection in Southern California’s porn industry since 2004, when an HIV outbreak shut down production for four weeks.’
‘At that time, a porn actor who had returned from working in Brazil spread the virus to three actresses who had performed with him. A transsexual performer unrelated to the other cases also tested positive.’
‘As the clinic downplayed the positive test, public health officials cited their ongoing battle with the porn industry over the use of condoms during filming. The two sides have been at odds for years, and despite the intense scrutiny, Fielding said he is concerned that condoms are still not being used.’
‘You wouldn’t send someone to work on a high-rise building without a hard-hat, so why are we allowing these performers to perform without condoms? Fielding said.’
‘Deborah Gold, a senior safety engineer with the state Occupational Safety and Health Division, said her agency repeatedly had attempted to crack down on unsafe workplaces in the adult entertainment industry, issuing several citations against employers, including a gay male production company that touted its condom-free filming.’
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Do you understand what this means for the adult industry? If the county and state officials take over monitoring the adult industry in Southern California, every performer must register as ‘sex worker’, and that without saying can and will have severe consequences and impact all aspects of their personal lives, from renting an apartment to getting a daily job, getting a line of credit, etc. Furthermore, if the usage of condoms becomes mandatory, that will put an end to many popular sub-genres in today’s porn from ass to mouth to cream pies, gang bangs, etc. This will be the perfect nail anti-porn movements from feminist organizations to religious nuts, white supremacists and crazy morons needed to seal our coffin. Just when you think things can’t get any worse.
For a long time, I’ve spoken against the dangers which the reckless behavior s of a few can and will eventually pose on many, from inflicting physical and psychological pain on women to working with foreigner performers specially transsexuals, homosexual activities, hiring intravenous drug addicts (IVDU), etc. I’ve told the truth and for that I’ve been accused of being discriminative, hateful and narrow minded, among the other things. While all along the way my intention has always been to raise the awareness and prevent a disaster that, god forbid, if happens will drastically impact and devastate many people’s lives and livelihood.
I ‘d like to end this article on a somewhat positive note, but I really don’t know what to say, except for I hope once again we swim rather than sink, and dodge this bullet, too.
what will be the ramifications?
most male performers have a really hard time performing with condoms, and i am sure BJ scenes are out of the question, facials etc..
the list goes on and on..
i hate to say so but if this is the only incident of an HIV transmitted performer since 2004 then statistically that is probably better than the average citizen, this considering there are upwards of 500 adult scenes produced in porn valley each day..
I want to comment on the stupidity of the statements made. The AMERICAN transsexuals in the industry are AIM TESTED and we don’t NORMALLY DO SCENES WITH OUT CONDOMS. The straight industry are the one that practice this regularly, why because it sales. Some girls are even forced into doing so even if they wish against it. Why because if they won’t do it some other girl will so they lose out on me. An Aim test as many know is good for 30 days, thats 30 days to fuck some one night stand and catch a disease. You need to stop focusing on the Gay community and Transsexual community when the outbreaks keep being reported in the STRAIGHT PORN COMMUNITY. I think STARS need to be responsible and realize that their job is based on their cleanliness and not being affected. I also think it should be PRO-Choice if the performer in question would like to use a condom or not even if the performers are tested. Aids happen folks to everyone, focusing on a group is just dumb ass discriminatory on your part. Obviously you missed out on Health class where it says AIDS is not just for GAYS AND “TRANNIES”! Get a life and realize you are no better than anyone else, even if you try looking down your nose on a community. Isn’t it funny dumbass that the lead carrier of aids are FEMALE not TRANSSEXUALS and NOT GAYS! God I hate stupid people that go on and on about BS like this!
oops I types so fast I meant to say MONEY not me lol
Nearly half (48.1%) of all HIV cases in the United States are attributable to men who have sex with men (MSM).
the other half is mainly drug users.
this from the WHO
dont come here and say focus should not be on the gays and trannyfuckers..
Kelly Shore says:
‘I want to comment on the stupidity of the statements made.’
And I want you to shut your face and shove your ‘opinion’ up your single hole. You’re a freak of nature, whether you admit it or not, and I don’t have to explain anything to you.
But I say this for others who are reading this: two of the major HIV incidents in the adult industry in the past decade were caused by transsexuals: John Stagliano case and Darren James case. And I have good reasons to believe there are eventually more transsexual related HIV tsunami on the way. As for the gay community, the evidence and numbers speak for themselves. The facts are facts, whether they’re good or bad or ugly.
lol You are such a child, did I ask you to explain myself to you? No? Again grow up little boy. Sirecumalot I would love to know where you got your statistics cause according to the official aids site, aids.gov and many others black woman are still the lead carriers of the aids virus.
Secondly its irrelevant anyways, because the outbreaks has to deal with the industry not the world and the industry. If people would recognize their responsibility is to be clean before every scene there would be no cause for these issues. Also if every community took RESPONSIBILITY for their mishaps instead of blaming another community for their problems we’d be a lot better off.
Lastly Colonel I don’t give a damn what you or anyone else thinks of me. If I did I wouldn’t live how I live. So keep your petty comments to yourself.
THE FACTS ARE FACTS WE SHOULD USE PROTECTION AND PROMOTE IT REGUARDLESS IF WE ARE TESTED OR NOT so every performer is SAFE! And educate the viewers of why we use protection besides doing what makes money. I could point out a lot more straight outbreaks than the ones you pointed out Colonel, however its not a war of that. The only way to fight the foul ups is to be safe! God the stupidity that you spew on this board sometimes disgusts me.
hey Col, is this the end of the LA’s porn industry?
You want to talk about being disgusted, Kelly; you know what disgusts me? Take a look at the mirror. But you’re right about one thing: it’s not a war of that. However you can’t chronicle the history of HIV outbreak in the adult industry without mentioning transsexual related cases. Having said that, Miss Shore, if you were reading more carefully, you would have realized that:
1. I emphasized on the risks of working with ‘foreigner’ performers including but not limited to transsexuals.
2. I mentioned a variety of reckless behaviours of a few that cause trouble for many, again, including but not limited to transsexual activities.
So next time if you wanted to express your opinion, choose your words and the subject of your discussion more carefully instead of trying to play dumb smart-ass and taking something out of the context.
Elglorioso, I hope it’s not the end, but if the county and state officials interfere in regulating the LA scene, it sure could be. We’ll find out soon.
I think everybody have seen it coming…the end of porn shooting in LA…at least,in full daylight.It’s what happen when you don’t police yourself.Here in Isla Vista,some peoples did start a party a few years ago call:Floatopia.For the last 2 years,it was pretty small and in order.Last Spring,it was just disgusting.There was close to 20,000 peoples on the beach and a huge amount of them left all their trash behind them…to pollute the beach for months to come.They were planning a new one(Floatopia)for early May.What do you think happen?The county did revoke the right to drink boose on the beach and that’s it.It’s over.
Someone ask the Trannyfucker the amount of condomed scenes he’s done, with trannies and girls, bet its less than ten. Of course he’s Mr Safe, just ask him. Anal should always be shot with a condom, but I guys like the Trannyfucker cant work like that, even Donny Long has used a condom. Trannies who escort pull in some freaky clientele, who knows where these people have been, some of these folks are “beyond the pale”, behaviors like those allegedly practiced by David Carradine, where the risk may be worth the reward.
Once again Colonel make friends all over the LIB.
Misskellyshore..ignore The Colonel and his homophobic ways. I may love him, but sometimes he is just an ass-hat!
“Nearly half (48.1%) of all HIV cases in the United States are attributable to men who have sex with men (MSM).”
“the other half is mainly drug users.
this from the WHO”
What about the Heroin addicts for example?
Remember when Sophia Lynn made the fake cancer story to hide her heroin addiction? When she tried to quit porn the first time, it was obvious in non porn forums that she was a heroin addict, outed by friends and family. Yet she came back in mid 2007 and Pimpwich, the same fine people that inflicted the Trannyfucker on us, graved her with open arms and pimped to non condom porno, including creampies and swallowing, and of course, to Bellamodells clients (the Earls was an “consultant” there). Only when the Luke made obvious that she was a heroin addict and that she was booking tricks behind the Earl’s backs, she did get fired from Pimpwich. Even so she still got work.
I know the case of a well know gonzo girl that became later a contract girl that is a heroin addict and no one cares.
If Cali State goes into the industry, you had it coming.
Off course “Doctor” Sharon Mitchell was a heroin addict herself for nearly 20 years so she cannot discrimiate against high risk groups like trannyfuckers or junkies.
Kay, if that’s all you have to say about this highly important issue, then I’m really fucking disappointed. Please enlighten us with your pseudo intellectual liberal mumbo jumbo. See if you can save us whores and pimps and smut peddlers with some fucking charity work and plastic bottle recycling. It’s a job for Superman, no, it’s a job for Kay Ryan.
There’s no way California will shut down the porn industry with the state in economic shambles. Plus, if patient zero (A HORRIBLE NAME by the way) got infected outside of Porn and didn’t infect anyone INSIDE of Porn they certainly don’t have much of a case to shut it down.
With hundreds of thousands of Americans being infected each year I think people can live with ONE or TWO Porn infections every FIVE years. I know, I know, you say they are dying to shut you down but you will only get shut down if it comes to light that Patient Zero was infected due to negligence.
Yes, it’s a big story but at least it’s down to a science now to see where the infection came from.
If you think Transsexuals are the only porn performers that escort my dear sir you are sadly mistaken……….
Larry Flynt once said: If you do something indefensible, you’ll get in trouble. I agree wholeheartedly; and unfortunately I must admit in the recent years many indefensible acts have been committed by a few who forever scarred our credibility and reputation as an industry and provided the perfect weapon for those who wanted to hunt down and burn every pornographer in America at the stake since the debut of Deep Throat in 1972.
This current HIV outbreak, the way AIM is handling it and revealing previous HIV positive cases that were kep secret by AIM, it all paints a dark picture of our future. Even if they can’t shut down porn entirely, but the chances are they will force AIM out of the picture and pose harsh restrictions such as sex worker registration, mandatory workers’ compensation and probably mandatory usage of condoms. Just imagine what it’ll do to a financially bleeding industry. Forget about DVD sales, live events, tours, etc. People will no longer even watch American porn on VOD web sites, they’ll switch the channel to European hardcore flicks which with all their double anal, fisting and S & M actions are already doing better than lame, monotonous, factory assembled recycled American movies.
If we reap what we sow, then we’ll be in a world of hurt.
I’m pondering various conspiracy theories…
Let’s talk about them, Jeremy.
1. Alien green monkey from Uranus.
2. The Bilderburger’s Secret Recipe to destroy porn.
(Bilderberg secret sauce is bloody red).
3. Something to do with money, power, prolonging lifespan…
4. Still formulating…
Don’t forget the Illuminati and Area 51. No conspiracy theory is complete without them.
But seriously man, we’re screwed. Looks like Wile E. Coyote is finally catching The Road Runner.
I’m not in the industry just a fan.
I know what I’m about to type is gonna get people pissed at me. I blame myself for posting. *sigh* If given a choice of blue pictures with or without condoms. I will pick the one without. I am not the only one. My friends are the same. The whole point is illusion – fantasy. Having a condom breaks that fiction. I’m not gonna apologize, it’s how I feel.
Performers get paid serious money to work for a few hours. Add more than one scene a week, it equal more than having a nine to five job or something in the service industry. I see it akin to timber cutters. They make available the material used for life. They’re paid good money, but face such high risks of death or life changing injuries. Rewards go to the bold.
Probably not want you want to read.
But the rate of infection is small in the industry. Yes, zero would be perfect. Better yet a cure for ALL venereal diseases. But I strongly suspect I won’t see that in my lifetime. Maybe with nanotechnology – a long way from now. Once every five years is pretty good. Look – how many people have gotten serious heart and lung issues or death from taking Fen-Phen. Lives shortened, no less tragic than what’s happened. Life IS dangerous.
Fine call me a bastard. I’ll go a step further, make myself an asshole. Last November I bought for myself an MP3 player (my first). It’s an RCA, I opted not to go with the ones that have rechargeable batteries. If they die, you need a new player. I hate that kind of proprietary crap. So I got one that uses a single AAA battery. I found one with a micro SD expansion slot. I’m getting a good deal for my money. So?
I go through batteries in this sucker like crazy. While the more expensive AAAs would probably last longer. I’m not paying three bucks for two of them. I go to my local 99 Cents shop and pick up imported batteries, four for a dollar. These would be the ones that are made in sweat shops overseas. My music is powered by the suffering and deaths of others. I’m not blind to it. Hell, a lot my clothes are the same – three bucks for a shirt. Quantity over quality; my money can go farther this route. It’s true. Like it or not.
I once got into a discussion with a seller of a Yahoo auction. He had a laser disc I wanted to buy. The thing has been listed for months, no bidders. I asked if he could reduce the price. No. Then gave me an analogy about his car. He drives or so he claimed, a luxury auto; rated high for impact survival. Why would you drive a car that wasn’t safe? Save your money buy the right car = save up and get this LD. I don’t think he ever sold that title. It was unrealistic. He wanted the then retail price for it. A dead format. In a perect world that would work. The same thing with banning guns. On paper it’s a winner. In life it’s a plan for disaster.
If this rule comes true, I can see what The Colonel writes as fact; no more ATMs, gang bangs and cream pies. Hell, no more oral. I can envision companies doing what is required, rubbers for all and seeing their sales go further down. The answer is simple: leave California. Folks trekked across this country for chance to strike it rich – finding gold. People will move where the money is. And if it’s not California, time to relocate.
It’s sad that this has happened, but the performers know or NEED to know what’s at stake when they choose this vocation. But as I wrote; rewards go to the bold.
Great post as usual dear Colonel, The thing is we are in a very difficult choice, Safety in Sex (I mean condoms) or losing attractive in the movies with the unattractive condom. Porn is not Disney Land and VIH is not a funny game. Ok, No condoms at movies but How about the professionalism in sexual workers? Why don’t they think before sticking their cocks or eat pussies without knowing what kind or pussy are enjoying?
This is the clue you are professional or not…I bet that they are only a few in this fucking business and not only in porn valley, Europe is the sadly the same story
Bad times are coming for porn industry and sadly for people who love porn if the county put their eyes in this issue
From the LA Times:
“The newly released data brings the number of known HIV cases in adult film performers to 22 since 2004, including a porn actress who tested positive late last week. At least 10 of those cases involved men who had sex with other men, according to health officials.”
Gay and bi-sexual men are at least half the equation, and who knows if they included transexuals in that category (the article was written in the People’s Republic of Southern California). Statistically, people in this group are much more likely to contract AIDS yet a handful of politically correct folks, currently outspoken trannies, are tearing into the Colonel as if he skewed the results somehow. Fuss at the CDC, WHO, or any other organization that tracks such data but don’t kill the messenger when he points out the elevated dangers of working with certain groups (IV drug users included).
Mr. Shore can deny this truism all he wants, even argue statistical methodology or causality, but ultimately STDs are a reality for every sex worker and it behooves them to know what practices are more dangerous. They can then opt out of working with such people or charge a premium to do so but the mandatory condom suggestion is just another way to send jobs overseas. The closer you look at ANY government regulation, the more problems you will find. This is irregardless of political party or affiliation too, so don’t run so willingly to big brother to protect those poor workers when the likely results will be less than satisfactory.
General,
We’ve had our differences in the past, but I have to give props where props are due. I agree with about 95% of what you’ve said on this issue.
To miss shore,
There is ONE reason why you never hear about HIV in the gay porn industry, and that is because they dont test and do not have any program like AIM. IF they did it would hsow that about 50% of all gay performers are HIV positive, and it would reveal that people are evtering that business HIV negative and leaving it HIV positive. They hide behind the ‘privace’ issue when asked why they dont have a testing program. They dont even test for the ‘lesser’ std’s because those results would be sent to the county as required by law.
Some gay companies, or should I say gay talent, do test at AIM. A large number of those are the positives that are referred to in the above referenced article.
As you can see, in a reletively short period of time that a small number of gay talent have been testing how high the positive rate is in that “side’ of the industry.
Colonel, when it comes to this issue there is no room for our war of words, and I applaud your wellthought out and well articulated response.
My friends John, Pepe and Houstondon, thank you for your comments. You all pointed out very important facts that need to be addressed and discussed in these turbulent times.
The truth is an HIV outbreak in the adult industry every few years, as terrible as it is, but it’s not any worse than what’s happening all across this country among the street walking prostitues, IV drug users and in prisons. But unfortunately it creates an opportunity for anti-porn movements of all sorts to hit the industry in it’s weak spot and unleash their dogs after us.
I guarantee you if you go to a transsexual or gay club looking for a one night stand, which unfortunately certain performers in this industry do that regularly, you’ll be in a greater danger of getting exposed to HIV in compare to perfoming with a straight girl on a porn set. So regardless of how we come out of this crisis, as long as certain individuals in this industry prefer their personal deviant interests over the benefit of many, we will always be in grave danger.
General, I meet people on their own level. The reason I was hostile towards you because the way you started communicating with me through choosing an obvious user name to ‘outrank’ me and attacking me in any way you could. Naturally I responded and reacted to your actions to the point which I even wanted to confront you face to face and understand what’s exactly your problem with me.
I had some ideas about your identity; from your writings and your vendetta against me, I assumed you must be Sophia Mounds whom I don’t know personally and have never worked with. I exchanged jokes about her with Jeremy Steele and others on this board and on PoonTalk; and my assumption was that she’s taking my jokes, my written words for the face value and is trying to retaliate. But then I reached the point where I no longer cared who The General is and what’s his/her personal vendetta against me.
However, as long as you respect me, I respect you. I don’t have any vendetta against you; I can’t have any, because as far as I’m concerned, I don’t know you personally and have never worked with you.
As a Transsexual I am not going to argue that their is a high risk among those who do anal sex. However Colonel the two outbreaks you speak of were both outside of the U.S! I yet have seen any reported working American TS alarming the Industry as we see today!
I would like to state that according to the resources I found online the leading group is still “African American Females” followed by homosexual men!
Finally I am not here to throw stones at anyone or call people out who preach yet dont practice. Its part of the risk we take as adults in this Industry! All I can do is continue to be tested on a regular basis and hope that others do the same!
“Ok, No condoms at movies but How about the professionalism in sexual workers? Why don’t they think before sticking their cocks or eat pussies without knowing what kind or pussy are enjoying?
This is the clue you are professional or not…I bet that they are only a few in this fucking business and not only in porn valley, Europe is the sadly the same story”
Pepe, people do not get into porn becasue they are on top of the world (Luke Ford dixit), porn is often the playground of the dammed, many performers seem mentally ill, drug addicted, disfuncional, and they do not care about the future, so when there is no future, there is no sin, profesionalism is almost an oxymoron. I doubt they really care about STDs at all.
Wendy, I would like to hear your opinion on the Percentage of Gay porn performers who are HIV positve. I’ve seen estimates as high as 60%.
Do you think thats true? And what is your opinion on the lack of testing in the gay industry(ther is NONE) for even the ‘lesser’ std’s.
Do you agree or disagree with the following statement… If the gay industry tested like the straight industry does, those result would prove that gay performers are entering the business HIV negative and leaving it HIV positive.
Straight industry has testing program and once every r=few years someone comes up positive. Gay industry uses condoms, yet 50 to 60% are HIV positive. Go figure.
Oh please Colonel. The only reason you are up in arms about this is because it is going to hit your bottom line. If I try having a logical discussion with you it will only provoke some stupid rant about the end of the world and the US not being a super power, or how HIV is a gay disease. If I want non-reality I’ll put on ER reruns.
I do believe that this is a serious issue, but all you are going to do is yell over me and tell me my charity work does not help, blah, blah, blah.
I feel bad for everyone involved and it is a serious matter. Do I believe that the government should take over NO. Should there be stronger restriction, YES. Would I work with someone who do not have an up to date AMI test…NO. Would I call AMI and double check that the AMI test is still valid…YES. Should the director make sure that all the workers have updated AMI tests, Yes.
I do not believe that the government will take over but make stronger guidelines, and stiffer penalties. I also do not believe that AMI should be sued. When they lost last time they should have fired their lawyer, a very strong case could be made for what they did.
You will also be surprised Colonel that I believe that if someone, knowingly infects people with HIV that they should stand trial. It is the same thing as pointing a loaded gun at someone and shooting.
I still think you are an ass-hat to think it is a gay disease. And that Misskellyshore is a “freak of nature”.
Who died and made you God!! GOD FORBID!!!!!!!!!!
Always kisses Colonel.
Kay, you can be entertaining if you try. But you’re damn right: this is a serious issue, and unfortunately my dear, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
I don’t want to get into statistics with you or outspoken, politically correct chicks with dicks on this board; but the facts are the facts: the percentage of HIV infection among transsexual and gay people, regardless of their ethnicity and nationality, is higher than straight people. So in answer to your tongue in cheek statement, I don’t believe HIV is a gay disease, but based on the evidence and numbers, I believe transsexuals and gays are more likely to catch and/or transmit HIV. Hence when a deviant bastard like Christian XXX crosses over from transsexual/gay porn to straight porn, he directly puts my livelihood as well the livelihood of many others in jeopardy.
I hate transsexuals and I hate gay people. It’s still a fucking free country and I reserve the right to love or hate whoever I want, for whatever reason I want. But as long as they keep their cock sucking and butt fucking endeavors to themselves, I could care less. Hell, let them even get married, who gives a shit? But when they interfere with my life, my profession and my livelihood, that’s when I have a problem with them and must react and protect my interests. I hope you can understand this without getting your little head exploded. Now go to kitchen and get me a fucking beer, woman, or you will get spanked.
rics, about half the guys in gay porn are poz. But that is a totally different situation and set of attitudes about HIV. The bareback studios assume that a performer has HIV when they come in. Then there are studios that are condom only. Hence, the protocol and expectations vary from place to place, whereas in hetero, there is an established set of guidelines that is supposed to be followed.
” I would like to hear your opinion on the Percentage of Gay porn performers who are HIV positve. I’ve seen estimates as high as 60%.”
Is that is true, gay porn is truly the playground of the dammed.
Of course, the tax payers and the insurance companies foot the AIDS drug bill.
Tara, “supposed to be followed” but not followed or enforced.
And even when followed they might not be the correct ones.
Now, who is watching the detectives (AIM)?
I think there are going to be serious consequences for the industry, because protocols were not respected or followed and everyone in that scene was wrong for doing it because she had no actual inspectable test. Now, the government has real ammunition to crack down.
It always comes down to one black sheep. In this case, the black sheep was the producer who shot the female performer with a pending HIV test. We can argue the male performers who worked with her were responsible, too. But ultimately it was the producer’s fuck-up; and I believe he’s the same guy who started romurs on GFY to blame everything on AIM and cover his own ass. Eventually the story breaks out in mainstream, and now everybody is knee deep in shit.
I believe the names must be named and the producer must accept the responsibility. An entire industry cannot and should not pay for the misdeeds of one fucking idiot.
porn is currently the top featured/pictured story on la times. com
Yes Coronel, yes Tara, is time to name the producer.
Cindy, Coronel, are you up for the task or shall Deep Throat leak the name to Al or Darrah?
The producer has to be named, especially if they’ve shot since last week. Some names I wouldnt be shocked at all, others, well maybe that’s why everything is quiet on names.
Names, please, names.
The old Luke Ford would have named names, is time to fill his shoes now.
I’ve heard several names so far, some plausible, some not so plausible. Nothing has been cleared and confirmed yet, the whole incident is shrouded in mystery, romur and speculation; and that’s exactly the problem: we must get to the bottom of this incident and name the producer. The truth must be told in this life and death situation, the entire adult industry is at stake, and there’s no room for discreetion or politically correctness.
The truth is this crisis was created by one man, one careless, ignorant, selfish producer and not AIM. The burden of guilt must be taken off AIM’s shoulder. When it comes to a crisis of this magnitude, there’s no room for personal hostility. No matter what you think of AIM and Sharon Mitchell, they did their part which is conducting a routine test. It was the producer who despite the knowledge about his hired performer’s pending HIV test, proceeded with the shoot because he didn’t want to reschedule it and pay kill fees. People, specially mainstream media must learn these facts and understand this crisis was created because of one man’s misdeeds and not because of the adult industry’s lack of safety guidelines and protocols.
Do your part and reveal the truth, or the county and state officials will step in and do it for you; and trust me, that’s the last thing you want to happen in today’s industry.
I think AIM should unload part of the bulk of the scandal by naming names. The producer and the stunt cock.
And once the producer’s name is out, he should be boycotted, no adds, no agents sending talent to him. But one can only dream right? That will never happen.
From my long experience with AIM, I find it hard to believe that this was a result of their protocol breaking down. If you look at their prompt handling of the ’04 incident, it’s clear that they direct every resource to doing their job properly. The numbers I see being thrown around by the industry and mainstream media – 16, 22, whatever is the factual number of HIV cases – is inaccurate based on the fact that possibly not all of these individuals were actual performers in the industry. Plus, the most important fact is that they were detected by AIM! They did their job well then, and they are doing their job well now. How many construction accidents does Cal-OSHA investigate? Hundreds a year. I bring this up only because pro-regulators insist on comparing our industry to every other health high-risk line of work. You walk onto a construction site, you might get maimed or killed, but it’s YOUR CHOICE to work there, and to do so safely you must be aware at all times. It’s the same with working in porn – you’re only ever going to be so safe, but never safe %100 of the time. Let’s be realistic here.
It comes down to PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY. The early evidence points toward the producer, the individual who failed to do his/her job properly. Everything about this story at present is based on conjecture and speculation. The mainstream media will always seize any opportunity to draw negative (or any) attention to the porn industry. They’re in the business of selling news, no matter if it’s accurate or not. We should all sit tight and wait for the FACTS before pointing the finger at AIM or anybody else.
“We should all sit tight and wait for the FACTS before pointing the finger at AIM or anybody else.”
Well, we already pointing fingers at the producer.
This is not a time for hasitation, second thoughts or politically correctness. We need to get to the bottom of this and reveal the truth. Anti-porn movements tend to take advantage of the situation and pose crushing regulations on the adult industry by claiming this HIV outbreak was a result of the failure of the industry’s safety guidelines and protocols. We must provide facts backed by actual evidence and prove this was a tragedy caused by one invidual’s misdeed and negligence and nothing else.
The only persons who can help to reveal the truth and protect the adult industry are the persons involved in June 6th shoot: male performers, videographer, PA or anybody who was there on that day. I’m talking to you directly, I hope you read this and I hope you do what needs to be done:
Come forward and tell the truth. Reveal the name of the producer. You can do this anonymously. Understand the gravity of the situation and how it can and will effect everybody’s life and livelihood in this industry including yours. As a human being and as a part of the adult industry you have a responsibility which must be fulfilled, otherwise you will regret your silence for the rest of your life. Do the right thing before it’s too late. Thank you and god bless you.
Amen sir.
I’m with ya, Colonel. Anybody who has any FIRST-HAND information should come forward immediately. If you care at all about this industry that pays your bills, then step up; however, speculation and hearsay will only obfuscate the truth. We are being closely watched to see how well we handle our own business. Time is of the essence, and the sharks are circling…
…..they have already smelled blood, AIDS infected blood to be precise.
Please Colonel, you know the threat of a spanking is only going to turn me on.
But I will pose this question to you? Out of that # of 16 performers (or 22) that have tested positive for HIV, how many have been Transgenders?
As I have read the information that is fling around, and yes my magazine is covering it, this was a heterosexual women who tested positive. She has a boyfriend and “other” boyfriends that have been tested along with the male performer she worked with.
I didn’t see any of your so called “divests” on that list? Did I miss something?
Yes you are right this is serious, but I believe that OSHA, AMI and all other officials are taking it one step at a time and making sure that all I’s are dotted and T’s are crossed, before storming the gates.
From what I have read of the outbreak in 2004 that is what caused the hysteria in the first place, doing before thinking.
Kay, this is not the time and place for playing the devil’s advocate, so you can drop the act anytime. However, I’d like to:
1. Emphasize that statistically speaking the percentage of HIV infection among transsexual and gay people, regardless of their ethnicity and nationality, is higher than straight people.
2. Remind you that 2 of HIV outbreaks in the adult industry in the last decade were caused by transsexuals.
3. According to the latest official reports, 16 of the 22 performers who were infected by HIV since 2004 are men, including 10 who were identified as having sex with other men; in other words, almost half of them were involved in transsexual/homosexual activities.
As a grown woman and a magazine editor, you must be able to figure out the above facts and connect the dots on your own. This current crisis was apparently caused by a straight woman, but as long as scumbags like Christian XXX are cross overing in this god forsaken industry, we will never be safe and it’ll never be over.
i didn’t want to comment on here, but the colonel is being ridiculous. two hiv outbreaks caused by TS? What the fuck are you talking about?
1999 – Marc Wallice infects 9 girls…..nothing to do with TS
2004 – Darren James gets HIV from Bianca Biaggi (a girl) and infects 5 girls…..again nothing to do with TS.
exactly which “outbreaks” are you talking about?
As far as my performing….if you feel that strongly fuckhead….get me out of the biz. Please try your hardest. I have done 12 scenes this month already and I have 7 more booked next week……come and get me! lol
Christian, you should stick with sucking tranny cocks and playing video games; but let’s see, you damn know what I’m talking about: I referred to 2 HIV outbreaks of the past decade which were caused by your transsexual friends: John Stagliano case and Darren James case (yes, he got HIV from a transsexual, not a girl). There were also other cases like Mark Wallace or this recent incident caused by straight people. But my debate is that the percentage of HIV infection among transsexuals and gay peopl is higher than the straight people. This is based on official data and you can’t deny it or beat around the bush, stop here and don’t make a bigger ass of yourself.
The truth, Christian, the tragic truth is you and your transsexual butt buddies are the highest threat to everybody’s safety and livelihood in the adult industry, your own included.
And as far as for ‘working’, just shut up Christian, stick your tongue out of Laura and Derek’s ass and we’ll see how you’ll do without them, your bread and butter. One last thing: next time don’t eat too much before ‘work’, and don’t forget to do your enema. Otherwise you’ll end up shitting all over the place during the ‘working’, like you did on that Evil Angel’s strap-on scene.
See Colonel that was not hard. All I wanted was logic and reasons.
And Christian, please do not give The Colonel another reason to get up in the morning. He will take that as his life’s work to try and get you out of the business.
If patient zero is the name being bounced around, indeed people may feel that male to male contact is a factor in her infection. And you would not be able to deny it, Christian, because you did a shemale/male/female scene with her and tried to pass it off as b/g.
2004 – Darren James gets HIV from Bianca Biaggi
It is thought Biaggi contracted the virus after an anal sex scene with a transexual performer.
http://listing-index.ebay.com/actors/Bianca_Biaggi.html
Christian, dude, you have a nice job, a hot girlfriend, a roof over your head, and transportation. Stay off the internet and stop feeding the trolls. Your attitude sucks. None of the other crossover guys get the heat you do, because they are nice.
Bianca Biaggi was thought to have gotten HIV from TS Bianca Carvalho in Nacho’s Hard Time She-Male from bareback anal. Bianca C. already had HIV.
i love the colonel, he is the best. kay, he can’t run me out of this biz….no one can. i work more than every guy except maybe 5 or 6 and will for as long as i want. the colonel can bitch and moan all day, but let’s face it….besides crying on this board, he can’t do shit to me. he wouldn’t ever dare say a single word to my face…..ever. again i love that dude, he is the best.
tara, if i want advice from an obese person who lives with their parents, i will let you know. stick to running your little site and shut the fuck up. i could care less what you think.
colonel…doesn’t it really irk you that I work so much? seriously, how long have you been bitching now? a year? two? lol
want me to send you my work schedule for the week and see if you can get me cancelled off any of them?
I love you too, Christian!
No one is trying to run you out of the biz. I caught you lying back in ’06 when you claimed to be ‘straight’. Your escort ad (http://www.sexyguysonly.com/maxx.htm), the scene you shot for MenatPlay.com that year (http://www.sexyguysonly.com/2006/07/maxx-diesel-returns-to-gay-porn.php), and the movie you filmed that year with Gia Darling REMOVED LINK were all solid evidence that you are not truthful. Then, along comes 2008, you start blogging, and people start pointing out that you regularly shoot for Shemale-Club.com after you post photos of TS models on your blog and try to pass them off as female.
When will you learn to just be quiet? Especially now. You need people on your side.
um what was i lying about? i have never denied anything about who i am and what i have done. again with the advice? i thought i already answered that question. i need people on my side? what the fuck are you talking about? anonymous internet posters? yeah i really need them on my side.
I am bullet-proof genius. That’s because everything I do, I do on camera with AIM tests. The colonel knows about the proclivities of male performers (and female) off camera. i am just a target because i choose to do things with AIM tests and camera’s and not behind the scenes where no one knows what the fuck people are doing. off camera? i live with phoenix marie and play warcraft at night. please.
keep lecturing me. next i will lecture you on a fucking diet and how to move out of your parents basement. fat, disgusting fucks like you are hilarious.
“i have never denied anything about who i am and what i have done.”
Shut your fucking face Trannyfucker, you lied to me here when you said that you were not doing gay privates just to Tara uncover several of your adds as a “versatile performer” in……….gay privates.
gay privates? are you kidding? why would i do those? i live with phoenix marie. cmon bro….get a clue.
I love you too, Christian, in a wierd, fucked up way that is. You’re so much fun, especially when you try so hard to cling to your little cock sucking, butt fucking career and despite all transsexual/gay facials and swallows, you still have the audacity or stupidity, pick whichever you want, to claim you’re just a straight guy with some kinky habits. You never denied anything about who you are, right? So why is it so hard for you to admit you’re a homosexual and the only reason you fuck girls is because you get paid to do that on camera as your daily job; why are you so afraid of admit your true sexual prefrences?
I love you Christian, your arrogance and ignorance makes you so damn entertaining and such an easy target; only if you could choose your words more carefully and quit lying so much and desperately trying to alter, cover up, deny and obfuscate any facts that’s not beneficial to you. Take for instance your claim about Darren James case, everybody from the adult industry fanboys to mainstream media knows he contracted HIV virus through a transsexual; but you’re coming here and trying to deny that. Why? Since you yourself suck so many tranny cocks, so in your childish, demented, twisted logic it’s fine, there’s nothing wrong about it and it’s niether dangerous nor disgusting.
I know you’re working, and I know you get more than %80 of your work through Naughty America’s Laura and LA Direct’s Derek. Without them, you can’t even afford your monthly rent. I can’t imagine how painful, embarrassing and stressful it should be for you, as a grown man, to be so dependent on a lesbian jerk and a foreigner crook. I don’t have to make any efforts to get you out of the business, all I have to do is to address facts and raise awareness not just about you, but about everything that’s potentially dangerous and harmful to people’s lives and livelihood in the adult industry, my self included. That’s my part. People will read my writings and make their decisions on their own.
All in all, don’t take yourself too seriously, remember, you’re so much damn fun especially when you’re defending and explaining yourself.
Trannyfucker, were you with Phoenix Marie two years ago? I do not think so.
In a odd way I like you too, you are for this boards what Wankus was in XPT and what Willian Shaftner and Hitler are in other boards, the meme people keep returning to.
And tell me, do you still driving hookers around or have you gotten more domestic with Phoenix in your life?
Brazillian Transsexuals NOT AMERICAN.
Yes Miss Shore, thank you for enlightening me to the difference of transsexual’s assholes based on their nationality. But I still wouldn’t fuck you with a stolen dick, no matter how many test results you stack up in front of me.
hey colonel, what’s up? i see chrissyx is back on the board, mia for several months. people this asshole is jepordizing the industry, with ts shoots and now doing bareback ts movies, i’d like to know what chrissy considers himself,straight,bi,gay. i guess phoenix marie does’nt care if she contracts anything. and if you respond to this chrissy i don’t live in my parent’s basement, and i would call you a faggot to your face.
Dont forget, Laura lets Trannyfucker direct now, one step further for him to be the next Nacho Vidal or Chi Chi Larue. He can get Phoenix to do a Tranny Gang Bang, she must get away from him, you’re a good lookin’ broad and will never have a dick, leave before he knocks your ass up. No matter what, AIM still operates like the Keystone Cops, but it fits in with AVN and their no news until gets out too far to cover it up modus operandi.
Rest Assure my love the feeling is mutual 🙂
“Dont forget, Laura lets Trannyfucker direct now, one step further for him to be the next Nacho Vidal or Chi Chi Larue.”
Larry, Trannyfucker during his trip to Berlin, took photos of himself hugging Nacho, calling him a hero, discussed tranny fucking with Jazz Duro and called the frightening thin Rocco “a youth hero”. He was like a young padawan meeting the tranny fucker`s jedi council, that is a indication of the artistic direction he wants to take.
Also, are true the rumours that Trannyfucker`s Lord Protector did some gay porn in the UK and also was a hustler in SF in the nineties?
Pornfan, good to have you back on board, brother. You should stop by and chat more often.
And Miss Shore, I’ll sleep better tonight knowing a freak of nature is not lusting for me. But you’ll always have Christian. In fact to qoute him directly: he can wake up every morning with your limp shemale dick in his ass.
Colonel how do you think AMI should be run? If it is to long maybe another Op/Ed.
I am interested on how you would run it.
In the meantime,in some trailer park in Florida……..
“When you have a faggot agent that rep’s trannies and faggots as well as more straight girls in this business than anyone you are asking for it. I am sitting in Florida laughing my ass off at all the idiots in LA that hire trannyfuckers for straight scenes and fag male talent for straight scenes. I wont even book from girls from the fags anymore because I have no need to and everyone that knows the agencies in LA know who I am talking about. All I can say is I feel bad for the victims of others stupidity, but I TOLD YOU ALL SO.”
Was the talent involved related to Pimpwich?
Kay, I don’t understand the question. Do you think this crisis is somehow a result of the failure of AIM’s guidelines and protocols? Because as I explained previously it was the result of one individual’s misdeed and had got nothing to do with AIM.
As far as I’m concerned, they’re doing a fine service at an affordable price to the adult industry. People must educate themselves and be more careful, otherwise even if the officials force AIM out of the picture and step in to regulate the industry, things will only get worse, not better, not by any stretch.
The question is what kind of a lunatic fuck will shoot a scene with a performer who has a pending HIV test? We need to find this producer and hold him responsible for creating this crisis out of his utter selfishness and stupidity.
There sure is a lot of hate going on here today. In defense of Christian, he works so much in mainstream (straight) porn these days that he is far less of an added risk than he used to be a few years ago.
It’d be great if those coming into the industry took a long hard look at the dangers and drew their personal lines wherever they felt most comfortable (no condom anal creampies with bi-sexual IV drug users presenting tests one day from expiration representing one end of the spectrum; solo scenes the other side of the continuum).
As it stands though, there are fewer scenes being shot and many companies cutting back on pay so the debutantes with lengthy “no” lists and other conditions will support more regulation to remain competitive. I just think it’s fair that people know the risks involved and are compensated accordingly regardless of who they work with.
“The question is what kind of a lunatic fuck will shoot a scene with a performer who has a pending HIV test?”
With the economy the way it is, cutting corners is the norm and I’m surprised there aren’t a lot more risks like this being taken by smaller companies that can’t afford kill fees, worrying about replacement talent, or a whole host of other concerns that attack the bottom line. Performers need to personally check the tests of their prospective partners more than ever with scum like this out there…
Does anybody have accurate statistics regarding HIV infection in the European or other non-U.S. porn industries? I’d be curious to know the numbers, as well as how testing/documentation is handled (I’ve never worked outside of the U.S.), if at all.
It would seem logical that these countries have a much higher incidence of health issues by virtue of their common practice of extreme penetration – DA, DV, fisting, etc. This is all extremely high-risk, and I think that these types of practices should perhaps be limited, if not totally excluded, in the U.S. if we’re truly concerned with health safety issues. I think we should view simple anal in the same regard, as it’s the bull’s eye (sorry, couldn’t pass that up) for potential HIV infection, and obviously a key transferal element from gay crossover performers. Personally, I’m not a big fan of shooting anal, but it obviously has lots of fans, so I’m simply throwing this thought out for debate.
“The question is what kind of a lunatic fuck will shoot a scene with a performer who has a pending HIV test? We need to find this producer and hold him responsible for creating this crisis out of his utter selfishness and stupidity.”
That is a question that should be answered soon. Also, what kind of agent send talent without a valid HIV test to a shoot? The Donkey might be a douche but he has a point here.
“With the economy the way it is, cutting corners is the norm”
Saldy the same pressure on the companies will be felt by the talent and their agents. The race for the bottol line cutting corners is for all.
Third Axis, I do not know about the testing procedures in Europe.
In the UK is ran by the Gov, in the rest it seems that is ran by private clinics. Interesting to prepare some entries in this blog on that.
Rock Pepe, are you up to the task since Private and IFG are based in Spain?
Anal is porn’s bread and butter, so regardless of it’s potential risks it’ll never go out of the picture. However statistically speaking, the percentage of HIV infection among transsexuals and gays is higher than straight people, even though straight people practice anal sex, too. We cannot eliminate anal sex and/or it’s potential hazards, all we can do is to be cautious, get tested regularly and avoid suspicious partners (i.e cross-over performs, transsexuals, IV drug addicts, etc.)
Rics says:
‘what kind of an agent sends talent without a valid HIV test to a shoot?’
Since this female performer was a small timer who was working very infrequently, the chances are she doesn’t have an agent and works as a free lancer.
I’ll go on a limb and say she doesn’t even live in LA area, she comes to LA from outer state every few months, does a few scenes and goes back home.
Rics, you were right, Rocco did look like he was getting ready for Concentration Camp Movie.I assume the Trannyfucker also admires the great work of Joey Silvera’s tranny films. Imagine back in the day when Joey pitches this idea to Stagliano and Partick Collins, sure wasnt like a meeting between Steve, Marci, PT and Shylar Kobi.
Colonel, you think someone in Florida may know something about this. Some of porn’s great bottom feeders come from Florida…or go back like Admiral Long.
It’s hard to tell, Larry, but I don’t think so. The reason I say this is because currently many producers are shooting porn in Florida; so if she’s living there the chances are she would have worked more than ‘very infrequently’, as reported by AIM. Again, it’s all speculation untill we get accurate information from credible source(s).
Well, then can be someone from Oregon, Nevada or Texas, they have their share of part time PWs after Florida.
When all is said and done, at least today in 2009, HIV is largely a treatable disease in the developed world. Not many people who contract HIV progress to full-blown AIDS, and very few cases are life threatening. True, it’s expensive treatment which must be carried out for the victim’s entire life, but the chances of a healthy individual dying today from AIDS are relatively low. It’s not like the ’80s, when an HIV diagnosis was the kiss of death.
That being said, the legal ramifications for producers is another issue. Darren James received a six-figure settlement as a result of the ’04 incident, and today the potential for a multi-million-dollar lawsuit hangs over the head of every individual director and company attached to a production. There has yet to be a precedent-setting lawsuit of this type, but I’m sure it’s not too far off.
Producers must take every cautionary step possible to protect themselves legally, as well as to protect their talent from health safety hazards. I’m now counseling all of my current talent to be tested every 15 days, and I’ll refuse to work with those who have let their typical 30-day tests go till the very end. This only demonstrates that these performers are at-risk and have a laissez-faire attitude toward their own health. The additional cost of stepping-up your testing schedule is minimal, and shouldn’t even be an issue when you weigh the cost/benefit to your continued health.
As performers and producers, we can’t afford to take chances anymore, with our health or our money.
Amen.
not a lot of people in the know here..
where as it is recommended that the producer checks the test of each performer, it is 100% the responsibility of each performer to check the test of the other performer by viewing the AIM certified test copy and verifying ID..
rumor is that the stunt cock is sell known, he should have known better and checked her test himself…
also rumor that she did not shoot on saturday, only friday..
Well, for self preservation yes, the talent should do that, but legaly and the one that is going to get his ass sued is the producer. He is the numero uno in liability if something goes wrong, letting that to the talent is a big mistake. Would you trust most of the current porn talent with your money?
replying to comment #55 from the colonel:
There was NO outbreak stemming from John Stagliano. He did get HIV in Brazil in late 1996. However, he didn’t have sex with anyone else after that. He tested for HIV, and after a positive test, he immediately started on meds. John NEVER gave HIV to anyone else.
Mark Wallice is a completely separate incident, and is the “1998 outbreak” that I believe you were referring to.
rics, you are way off..
producers dont get sued..
the performers sign paperwork called release forms in which they waive any rights to sue a producer for the possibility of catching a STD on set..
producers are clever enough to protect themselves..
matter of fact most release forms have statements clarifying that there is a potential risk and require the performer to sign of to these statements.
“the performers sign paperwork called release forms in which they waive any rights to sue a producer for the possibility of catching a STD on set..”
The legality of those waivers is very, very, very dubious, that is why in the few cases a performer has sued, the case has been settled out of court. Example, Kira Kenner vs Vivid. They paid her to go and shut her mouth lots off money.
And since Tricia and the Coronel mentioned 1998, remember there is a pending case that has been won in the first stages challenging those waivers.
The problem is that most talent never sues,and they believe the producers BS, even Gia Jordan who is smart has to be corrected in XPT by the lawyers there about the value of those waivers.
I explained that to a former talent that wanted to sue for HPV, they mostly do not know the waivers are not bulletproof at all.
“where as it is recommended that the producer checks the test of each performer, it is 100% the responsibility of each performer to check the test of the other performer by viewing the AIM certified test copy and verifying ID..”
I would counter that it’s not “recommended” but required that the producer verifies all docs. The onus of legality lies with the hiring entity and its representatives, i.e. the studio/production company and director, even if performers are considered “work for hire” subcontractors, which they technically are, unless under proper contract (a particular liability). These subcontractors are working for you, in your “workplace,” and they’re covered under all applicable state labor laws. Do your research. The same applies to the legal responsibility to verify I.D.s if the authorities come knocking. You can be sure that any lawyer representing a plaintiff in any worker-safety case will name every single party in the chain of potential liability. If you’re in this business today, you better have solid legal representation, and you better cover your ass no matter how protected you think you are, sirecumalot.
I do agree with you that every performer should thoroughly check their partners’ docs (on and off set), and should even go online themselves to verify information. That is entirely 100% the performer’s responsibility. Don’t rely on anybody else to do your due diligence for you – they won’t be paying the price, or your bill for HIV treatment, you will.
trust me, nobody is getting sued..
those waivers/release forms will hold ground, they are legal contracts.
Kira sued for other reasons, Vivid decide to settle out of court, big deal..
you can ride me all you want..
i have been on many sets, the PA always verify with each performer that they have viewed the other performer(s) test papers.
the whole point is exactly that the producer cannot take responsibility for those tests since the producer did not arrange the tests or warrant the accuracy of the tests..
remember all that AIM is just a industry “self testing” laboratory, no where in california legislation does it say that adult performers must test every 30 days..
take the blind folds off people.. the performers are the ones who have their lives on the line… they must do their own checking.
and dont give me the usual work for hire / subcontractor bull shit.. we all know this is a grey area but 99% of porn performers are hired as subcontractors not general labor..
Liability waivers have been challenged in numerous cases, and have been thrown out in favor of plaintiffs who have signed them, although not in any porn-related cases I’m aware of. I do know that where a liability waiver has no protection, is when a legal spouse or family sues in a wrongful-death suit. The right of a spouse/family to litigate cannot be removed by an individual signing a waiver. That is my understanding. Any legal people out there care to weigh in on this?
My friends, as tragic as any incident specially HIV contraction is, but there are no legal ramifications for the producer. He is of course responsible for his employee’s safety and livelihood, but things are not as black and white as you may think.
If the producer doesn’t take necessary precautions, then any performer can and will sue him with any and all allegations from slip and fall to broken anal hemorrhages in hopes of a settlement. Therefore the producer must draw the line to protect himself; and ultimatelly performers must be self aware and extremely concerned about their own safety and livehood. Nobody must perform with anybody without verefying his/her test results and making sure everything is on the safe side. The following is an excerpt of the work for hire agreement which I require the performers to read, initial and sign along with 2257 form:
Waiver of Liability: Performer hereby releases, discharges and agrees to hold harmless Producer, and all persons lawfully deriving authority from the Producer, including without limitation, Producer’s employees, agents, contractors, performers, service providers, affiliates, financiers, backers, and licensees, from any claims or liability resulting from any sexually transmitted disease, condition or ailment which Performer may contract which is caused by or aggravated by any sexual acts or physical contact of any kind (whether direct or indirect, deliberate or accidental) with any other performer, actor or model. Performer acknowledges that Performer is not required as a condition of employment by Producer to engage in any actual sexual conduct in the course of the performance, or otherwise, and that any such sexual conduct or contact between Performer and any other person or persons, if it should occur, is exclusively a result of Performer’s own exclusive and unfettered choice and decision. Performer further acknowledges that Producer has made no representations to Performer as to the health of any performer, or that any other performer or actor is free from any communicable or transmissible disease, including without limitation, sexually transmitted diseases.
Yes, performers are subcontractors, as I said. Therefore they are protected under state labor law. Where is the “bullshit” in that? I fail to see your point. My entire point is that producers need to cover EVERY potential legal liability. That’s why we use waivers in the first place, even if they provide only partial protection. You can’t leave even one tiny crack open, or you may potentially spend lots of time and money defending your oversight, whether you’re in the right or not. That’s all I’m saying.
the discussion was whether or not the producer in question should be blamed.. everybody want to burn this guy on a bon fire.. i say nay.. ultimately not his responsibility
yes agree and we all do all we can to protect ourselves, legally and medically speakin’..
Well, blamed is one thing, but potentially sued is another; there are separate discussions related to this single incident. I’m all for “neighborhood justice,” and if this producer is found to be at fault for knowingly allowing a performer to work when it wasn’t 100% verified that she was HIV neg, then I say let the chips fall where thay may. Payback is a bitch. I’d much rather be sued than beaten half to death, if you catch my drift.
this just posted on gfy:
Director Tom Moore was at the helm of the scene where an HIV positive female performer exposed male talent to the virus. This information was posted on a webmaster board and later deleted. Moore has directed several titles such as Transsexual Prostitutes 47 and Tranny Hunter 2 and also appeared as a performer in bisexual and shemale themed films.
XBIZ has revealed that two male performers were exposed to the virus after working with the infected talent. One of the men is male talent based in Las Vegas. And the other male performer is rumored to be a formerly prolific performer in the gay porn industry in the earlier part of the decade. In fact, this performer appeared in 5 titles with the director in question:
Beyond Adorable Luxxxor Pictures 2000
Bi Sexual Escapades No Limits Productions 2005
Motel Sex (II) Gino Pictures Gold 2002
Trannie Mechanics 130 C Street Corporation 2003
What happened on the shoot involving the infected performer? It is alleged that the director Tom Moore told the male talent that the female’s test was ‘pending’ after calling AIM and that it was fine to work with her. News of the the female working with a second male partner in another scene did not surface until last Friday. (Why did it take so long for that to come out?) The male talent was tested at a Las Vegas draw center leading to the conclusion that he is based there. Given the shemale/gay porn connection of the director and the assumed first male talent exposed, perhaps it can be assumed that the Vegas male talent also worked in those genres? If so, for me, there is a particular talent from that area who does work often in that niche.
Who is the female patient zero? Some feel that it is someone near and dear to Tom Moore himself. Otherwise, why would he take on the liability risk of shooting someone who did not have a test?
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Ha! Well, Colonel, there ya go. I say hire only verifiable heteros from now on. Is there a test for that…?
Cindi and I heard the same story from several sources. Looks like the cat is finally out of the bag; and apparently once again the source of HIV outbreak were transsexuals and gays.
We also heard who was the male talent on Friday shoot, but as of now we can’t confirm anything.
colonel, i usually post on threads that interest me, no offense to the lib writers, there has’nt been much i have liked lately, plus i started a new job a while back where i work twelve hour days, so when i get home at night,sometimes i don’t feel like logging on to the computer.
You all need to look up the the Supreme Court Of California case..Robert Dupree vs. Workers Compensation Appeals Board, respondentnt Mon Doe 43,et. al. respondents.
All of these issues regarding the worthless waivers of workers rights on porn sets have already been decided.(Dec. 2008)
This is perhaps the MOST swept under the rug court decision involving the porn industry.
COLONEL, I am with you 99% on this issue. Take this tidbit I just threw out an run with it like only you can. Keep up the good work on this one Colonel.
I’ll give you all a hint how this one ends. The porn compaly was trying to say the performer was an indepenent contractor and therefore they didnt have to have workers comp insurance. This is the final line of the ruling…THE PETITION FOR REVIEW IS DENIED. That my friends, is game, set, and match in favor of OSHA, Labor relations board, and county health dept.
Lets, just for fun, see who will be the first to come up with the name of the MON DOE 43. Its acutally a no brainer.
The Brooke Ashley case is common knowledge.
General, would you kindly post a link to that case’s final ruling? I’ve searched but found nothing. Thanks.
you searched and found nothing, either you are poor at searching or there is nothing to be found..
but you seem to trust your own incapability and ask for help instead…
The latest romurs suggest that Tom Moore has left the United States for, of all the places, Brazil.
Apart from several transsexual series, one of his most recent series was: ‘Wanna Fuck My Wife, Gotta Fuck Me Too’, which he produced for Devil’s Film and as you can tell from the title, was a gay/straight series. In addition to directing, he also performed in this series and had sex with other men.
Furthermore, the ‘patient zero’ whom Tom Moore allegedly shot despite her pending HIV test was his own girlfriend, so the chances are she contracted HIV from Moore himself in the first place.
sircumbucket, I have no problem with asking for help when I need it. I’m open to gaining any information that will help me or anybody else in this industry. You sound aggressive. Why?
that couldnt be, then he would also have a pos test at AIM..besides i heard her boyfriend was someone else.
Tom Moore could have had a HIV positive test prior to last week’s shoot, but since he wasn’t performing on that day, then nobody needed to verify his test. The best thing to do is if somebody knows Tom Moore’s legal name, you must contact AIM and verify the latest status on his test. I don’t know his legal name, since he had never worked for me; but I’ll ask around and try to get more information.
someone with database access should be able to search under his performer name.. i am guess it is also tom moore also..?
sounds like the general knows who it is though.. unless he is just another attention whore and knows nothing.
In order to get information on a performer’s test, you must have his/her legal name, otherwise you can’t conduct an accurate search.
“Furthermore, the ‘patient zero’ whom Tom Moore allegedly shot despite her pending HIV test was his own girlfriend, so the chances are she contracted HIV from Moore himself in the first place.”
Listen Phoenix Marie, that could be your future!
“The Brooke Ashley case is common knowledge.”
Yet no one in the industry blogs has made a report on the ruling (afraid that the talent, knowing it will call the ambulance chasers?)
Cindy, contact a labor lawyer with no ties to the industry to explain it for us.
Rics,
You are absolutely right. The industry has kept this under the rug quite well. As most of you here have probably figured out, I post on several of these boards under different names, and so far I, that is me, have been the only person to ever mention this in any way. I wrote something about it on xxxpt some months ago, and as usual the dabate turned into a “who is this guy” rahter than talk about the substance of the material offered.
Rics, the ambualnce chasers are already filing suits, not necessarily in relation to this particular case but several others. Production companies better get their workers comp insuarance in order, thery’re going to need it, big time.
I have always been as honest as possible, and everything I write is true and correct to the best of my knowledge. I confirm my sources!!!! I do not work for AIM, I do not work in the industry. How do I know all the things I do, well wouldnt you all like to know, then again, maye you dont give a rats ass, either way I will continue tobe as honest and truthful as possible, can all of you say the same. I hope so.
That being said, Colonel, I’m willing to bury the hatchet, because I have seen that there is a human being inside of you, not just the bitter misogynistic pornographer that you appeard to be in alot of your writing here. Your thoughts on this situation are some of the most well thought out and balanced and fair things Ive read on any of the sites. I give credit where credit is due. Keep up the good work Colonel. If that means anything to you so be it, if not, well, so be it.
General, I never turn down an offer of friendship and mutual respect. Thank you for your kind words and god bless you.
Right on colonel. Now lets do our best to seperate the gossip from the facts, and help inform people about the realities of this industry, and not just about this incident. I think together we can be a pretty good team, each with our owm very strong opinions, looking at issues from slightly different angles.
Good night, and god bless you too.
Dear off topic, but Christian and I have never done a scene together. Did it not just say the infected party was the female and not the male talent? Yet, you go on about the male talent instead of the female Colonel? GOOD LORD…………………….
Miss Shore, apart from your physical deformity , if you’re not retarded or brian dead, then you know what I’m talking about. So you can drop the act and stop playing dumb anytime.
Off topic, I think the best thing transsexuals, gays and cross over sons of bitches must do at this time is to shut up and crawl under a rock somewhere. Oddly enough, I say this for their own good, otherwise I wouldn’t mind tearing them apart. As a matter of fact I get a kick out of it every time around.
OK, I’ve tried to put in some honest work and spent the last 2 1/2 hours Googling any possible ref to the Dupree/Doe 43 workers’ comp appeal case. I’m gettin’ vertigo from scrolling! The only thing that comes up is Kearns’ 2007 AVN article when the decision was still pending, which I had read when it initially came out and was following the case. I recall that AVN never printed a follow-up story(?)
Searched CA Supreme Court records as well as CA Workers’ Comp records… nothing. Really don’t want to resort to the microfiche machine at the library, so throw us a bone, General. Please. The legal implications are obviously important to those of us who are following this thread.
I suspect that one of the reasons why TT BOYT left for Florida was that losing the case means that he cannot made a dime in Cali without a ambulance chaser on his tail. I be he is going to end up in Brazil too.
TA, give it up.. clearly the general is a major lt clown just looking for attention, if he had facts he would be posting it..
Probably right. But those records are available somewhere; they can’t be buried that deep. I’m curious why AVN has no follow-up, and my search through XBIZ yielded nothing either… Also went through L.A. Times archives. Very curious. Release the sleuths!
Someone shoul call Marty Singer. He was the lawyer in Kira Kenner case against VIVID and STDs played a huge part in his case.
Look my friends, We’ve already discussed the issue of insurance policies and worker’s comp in the adult industry a number of times; and there’s really nothing more to add. The authorities have been trying to force these regulations on the industry for sometimes; but the adult industry is so complex and the number of independent producers are so many that in actuality, even if they pass something as a law, they will have a very diffucult time enforcing those laws. It would be a nightmare for them, if not impossible.
First of all, waiver of liability in work for hire agreement which most producers including myself require performers to sign, protects them against the majority of claims. Even if somebody gets severely injured or something goes seriously wrong, the producer and performer will settle things between themselves and keep it under the radar. Let me give you 2 examples:
Kelly Wells, my good friend, was severely injured during a scene directed by Belladonna for Evil Angel, her jaw broke badly. But everything was settled behind closed doors, Kelly received a payment and never took any action against Evil Angel.
Another example, Tiffany Holiday got seriously injured on a gang bang scene for Anabolic. Again, they settled everything between themselves, Tiffany received a payment which of course blew it on booze and drugs and bullshit, and that was the end of it. I can go on and give you more examples of familiar names, but I’m sure you already got the picture.
So please stop with all these speculations regarding insurance policies and worker’s comp issues and let’s focus on the real subject(s).
Here’s some interesting research I obtained from the CA Dept. of Industrial Relations, relating to the standing legal definition of an “independent contractor.” These decisions are very important to any adult producer, as they define our legal responsibility for providing workers’ compensation and other remuneration to not only talent, but to every worker involved in production. The case info is lengthy, so I’ll only give the links and you can read it for yourself. Ultimately, we could be imposed with significant legal and financial burdens should the State of CA begin enforcing these decisions.
This references the case of JKH Enterprises, Inc. v. Dept. of Industrial Relations in the CA State Court of Appeal, Sixth Appellate Court. The decision was filed on 9/11/06. The following is a brief exerpt from the court’s decision:
“Although some of the factors in this case can be indicative of the workers being independent contractors, the overriding factor is that the persons performing the work are not engaged in occupations or businesses distinct from that of [JKH]. Rather, their work is the basis for [JKH’s] business. [JKH] obtains the clients who are in need of delivery services and provides the workers who conduct the service on behalf of [JKH]. In addition, even though there is an absence of control over the details, an employee-employer relationship will be found if the [principal] retains pervasive control over the
operation as a whole, the worker’s duties are an integral part of the operation, and the nature of the work makes detailed control unnecessary. (Yellow Cab Cooperative v. Workers Compensation Appeals Board (1991) 226 Cal.App.3d 1288). Therefore, the finding is that these workers are in fact employees of [JKH].”
You will note the phrases, “their work is the basis for… business,” and, “the worker’s duties are an integral part of the operation.” This was a key point in the Brooke Ashley (Doe 43) case, to determine if she was considered an “employee” and therefore entitled to full worker’s compensation.
Here’s the link to the case document:
http://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/JKH_Pub_Dec.pdf
Agreed, Colonel; however, who among us can afford to be the test case should the state come knocking for a piece of the pie? I think it’s naive to think that they’ll continue to turn a blind eye, particularly when these occasional HIV incidents throw a spotlight on the industry. I think I’ll look for a nice foreign location to set up shop…
I heard the girls in Budapest and Prage are lovely, o wait, everyone is already there!
Eastern European whores are indeed lovely, and they used to be so cheap too, but not anymore.
American porn companies started shooting in Eastern Europe around the late 90’s, everybody did it, myself included: you could shoot anal with a smokin’ Budapest girl for as low as 200 American dollars, back then they didn’t know any better and dollar value was real. But then they got smart and organized, statted their own production companies, international talent agencies, etc. Meanwhile dollar turned into shit. So as much as I hate to be the harbinger of bad news, but the truth is that ship has sailed, too; similar to what happened in Southen America. Of course you can still shoot cheap, nasty porn in Thailand, but you may end up in the closet like Keith Carradine.
And In South America the whores are already getting condoms only, even Trannyfucker has to wear a rubber while shooting in Argentina for NA.
Supposedly, the Kimberly Jade decision was settled, but she is called ‘Jane Doe’ in the settlement to protect her privacy.
Maybe this will change all the rules and regulations of shooting porn, so that once again only the monied can make films.
Well that is not a bad thing, with 8000 porn titles a year the US porners were flooding the market. With less actors in the market, there will be room for more profits in the porn market. That is good for the really good producers and directors, but that means that most talent with not find work. Only the better, reliable, charismatic or prettiest performers will survive, that is not a bad thing too. But porn agents will take a hit.
I tell you, increased regulations are not the end of the world, they might kills some types of porn but in the end the suvivors will be far of better.
I think that Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union republics hold the greatest potential not only for porn, but also for other tech business. They are relatively young, emerging economies eager for new business and financial investment. With other Euro economies, and certainly that of the U.S., on the decline in overall global influence, there is a huge opportunity for another power to emerge and fill the void. Eastern Europe has all the elements and potential to be that economy.
They got the eye of the Tiger and unlike the US, Western Europe and Latinamerica they are largely inmune toward the socialism bug.
But they do have the same population problems of western develped countries, less young people means less people willing to take risk and be creative.
Rics says:
‘Increased regulations are not the end of the world, they might kill some types of porn, but in the end the survivors will be far better off.’
I disagree for a variety of reasons that I explained in this thread. Increased regulations in Sothern California based adult industry have the potential to destroy the industry as we know it: with mandatory sex worker registration, less and less girls join the industry. The reason they do this now is because the door is open to anybody who can get in and either makes good money for a short period of time and gets on with her life, or stays in and makes a lifetime career out of it; doing all this and remaining anonymous, knowing when she tends to rent an apartment, apply for a part time secretary job or gets a new credit card, her porn career won’t interfere one way way or another. While many girls won’t take the risk to ‘brand’ themselves as sex worker for the rest of their lives for a porn career with a relatively short life span of about 2 yeas.
Furthermore, today the porn consumers demands are much different from what it was a decade ago: they pay to see sloppy blow jobs, ass licking, ass to mouth, ass to pussy, cream pies, DP, gang bangs, etc. If the usage of condoms becomes mandatory, producing any scenes of such nature will be impossible; hence consumers switch the channel to where they can get what they want to see and not what we’re forced to provide. They’ll become loyal customers of European, Southern American, Asian or any porn that’s up to date and irregulated. So everything burns to the ground, it will no longer be surviver of the strongest in oppose to annihilation of the weak. It’ll be total annihilation of Suthern California based pornography as we know it.
However, we did a decent job, we got to the bottom of this crisis and revealed the truth, and proved it was caused by mistake and misdeed of a homosexual director acting out of sheer selfishness and stupidity and without the knowledge and consent of the company he shot the controversial scene for. It was transsexuals and homosexuals who once again took us to the edge and put our lives, safety and livehood in grave danger. This crisis too was their fault, like other incidents in the past. It was not the result of the failure of the adult industry’s guidline and safety protocols; and everything is under control. Hence, blood thirsty anti-porn movements of left and right have been disarmed and stripped of their ammunition. They have no further reason or excuse to interfere and meddle in the adult industry. We won. Transsexuals and homosexuals lost and were rightfully exposed and disgraced. So now they can crawl under a rock, fuck themselves and exchange bodily fluids and HIV.
I think it would behoove the porn industry to have a complete separation between Heterosexual Porn and the Gay/Transsexual porn. The survival of the industry may depend on it.
well said.. and yes more government interference would kill the industry in la..
btw, did we get a name yet?
Pornster my friend, from your lips to god’s ears. I hope the industry people, producers, directors and performers alike, learn one important lesson from this unfortunate incident and push transsexuals and gays to the dark corner where they belong: no more crossing over, no more fucking around, no more games.
Given the complexety and size of the adult industry, it’s hard to imagine it’ll happen quickly, but each of us as concerned individuals must do our part to raise awareness and spread the truth.
Names are out, both on this board as well as other online places. There are still some talks over the identity of homosexual director’s lady friend whom he insisted to shoot despite her pending HIV test. But apart from that, the names of cross over male performer, homosexual director and the company he shot the scene for without their knowledge of female performer’s test are out. Also strong rumors suggest director himself is HIV positive.
i know all of those but yet i have to see a leak on the reportedly 42 yo milf, gf of the crossover?
Here’s the interesting part which is making finding the female’s name difficult: the director was the person who generated romurs about a mistake occuring in an AIM test. He did that to protect himself and cover up the fact that he was the one insisting on shooting a performer with a pending HIV test. Therefore he purposedly gave false, inaccurate discription of the female to further confuse and mislead people. From what I’m hearing from several sources, the female is younger thatn 42 with entirely different discriptions.
The important thing is we know who was mainly responsible for creating this crisis. The identity of the female is of secondary importance, even though it’s just a matter of time untill we find out that, too.
Colonel,(my new friend)
In post 131 you mention the Kelly Well broken jaw incident. I think you know as wel as I that failure to report such a workplace injury, that required extensive post injury treatment, as well as ‘significant’ finacial cost, is a clear violation of OSHA regulations.
Regarding wiavers: There is no such thing as any waiver(legal waiver) that supercedes state or federal law. To put it another way, you cannot enforce any ‘agreement’ to violate the law.
Now let’s all give ourselves a healthy (most importantly, healthy) pat on the back!
I have the name sire
Tonight I’ll throw a little party and celebrate. I ended this article hoping once again we swim rather than sink, and dodge this bullet, too. Looks we did just that.
Thank you everybody for making comments and sharing your thoughts.
Christian, I still love you. You’re so much fun.
This blog by Ernest Greene is the most informed, well-reasoned writing on this matter that I have read yet. A must read for anybody who thinks they know what they’re talking about regarding the industry’s testing practices, the intentions of Cal-OSHA and other pro-regulatory entities, and the potential impacts on us:
Latest HIV-in-Porn-Panic: Rumor Control Central Re-Opens for Business
http://bppa.blogspot.com/
AL Says:
I have the name sire
are you worried about posting it?
Whatever info I get I give to Cindi