by Vicky Vette from her blog
(BACK STORY-As some of you know, I have been the target of some religious folks who write nice notes to me about being in sin and going to hell and that I can be saved if I put my faith in the Lord. I blogged about one of them Kyle. Kyle sent daily messages of scripture to my comments page (yes I do read stuff on my Myspace page people – even the wazzup’s!) Having said that, I did not block Kyle because he is interesting in a medieval kind of way – a fine demonstration of why this country still fakes outrage whenever there is a slipped booble on television.)
Vicky Vette Writes- I post this again, not to bash per se on Kyle but because Kyle’s views set forth in the blogs here represent a huge chunk of people in this country: religious medieval zealots who use the power of fear and sin to intimidate people to somehow stop what they are doing and run to confession.
I took the time since I was blogging on the subject to contact Tamra Toryn. She read the blog. With her permission here is her message to me:
"Just so you know, Kyle is not associated with the Pink Cross Foundation nor do we support is his message he’s trying to send out by using religion and an ex-porn star’s testimony to attack anyone to prove a point. People like that give us the wrong impression on what our message is, which is to give support to those that need help either leaving the business or that have already left. I have no sympathy for those that want to bash people because they disagree on someone’s choices they’ve made to live their life. It’s your life and who is he to even use me as an excuse to bash you! I have no respect for people that do that or plan to with my story for their own personal gain."
I am not going to bag on Kyle for trying…. but I do criticize him for being a supposed messenger of God & the Pink Cross Foundation. Do I agree with everything that the Pink Cross does? NO. Have we really reached the stage that we need foundations to help everyone who is depressed…. where is the ‘truckers foundation’ for suicidal truckers? (Don’t tell me they already have one). I kind of think that pornstars are being given told the ONLY way out is to follow the Lord to salvation – rather than simply stopping making movies and getting a ‘regular job’. Are they not being used? How are they now somehow better off if they cannot even afford to pay for clothing?
Having said that, an organization that provides a place for people to go in need cannot be all bad. If it helps – it helps.
I just do not agree with blanket messages to any person in the business. I have no doubt Kyle and others are trying to befriend every girl in the business. He is just unlucky that he ran into me – a happily married girl in porn who enjoys getting off on camera that does not do drugs or booze. The message of hate and sin is wrong. Not everyone who watches adult is a sinner. Kyle’s message that I am going to hell to answer to my maker is from the Dark Ages. Sexuality has to – in some degree – come out into the open otherwise you get things like priests molesting young boys. Is everything in porn acceptable or healthy? Nope. I have LOTS of issues with the adult industry such as the age girls can shoot and the targeting of men over 50 to ‘teenage’ looking movies (and people wonder why there are child molestors). That being said the industry and movies do some great things…..
– helps couples with intimacy
– educates people who don’t know what they are doing
– provides enjoyment if you like to watch it
– gets some people off if they are unhappy in life or with their partner
– brings sex out into the open instead of being buried in a closet.
There is NOTHING wrong with adults on camera having adult fun and people enjoying it. Like I said in my last blog – there is no eleventh commandment banning the use of camcorders. The adult industry is not always to blame for someone being unhappy – it could just be that the person was depressed to begin with or should not have been involved in the business at all. Thanks and good luck to Tamra in her search for herself. I hope that she listens to herself rather than others.
“Do I agree with everything that the Pink Cross does? NO. Have we really reached the stage that we need foundations to help everyone who is depressed…. where is the ‘truckers foundation’ for suicidal truckers?”
EXACTLY! I know that it would be grueling to try to go on a clean slate after as many movies as, say, Sierra Sinn did, but that doesn’t mean they’re all basket cases.
Shelley Lubben doesn’t treat them like they’re human. She portrays them like they’re widdwe cute puppy dogs (“Won’t you please give me money?”). And what exactly does this charity do? Reunite them for their family? Sorry, but if you’re gonna do a pun on The Red Cross, you damn better do more than just send people home (And you also may not want to choose a name based on the color of a vagina–just a thought).
Unfortunately, Shelley is like Ann Coulter in the sense that if you even acknowledge her, she feels like her work is done.