Jim B sends another threatening e-mail to me-
I have told you what is the matter with outing whores. It should be clear as day. It is a threat to their safety.
I, on the other hand, have not threatened your safety. Merely your pocketbook by doing everything in my power to drive down your Alexa ratings.
And you can be sure that i, too, have saved every communication between us. Every last one. So, go ahead. Post what you have. It’s "going to blow up on (your) site, alright, but you are the one who is going to look foolish. First for helping the Jesus freaks out a retired whore. Second for defending Darrah. Third for allowing yourself to become the top friend of the Darrah parody site in an effort to throw her under the bus and avoid a boycott. And yes, that is screencapped.
You say Luke Ford gave you the idea for that story? very interesting. I’m sure Luke’s Rabbi will appreciate knowing that he’s still running his old website behind the scenes. Just one of the many consequences of allowing things to "blow up on your site." I’m sure Luke will appreciate it even more.
And I’m sure that all of the people in the adult industry will appreciate learning that you intend to out their real names once they retire. I’m sure that will have them lining up to do interviews for your site. You know, the ones that actually bring in the readers and drive up your Alexa ratings. Another consequence of allowing things to "blow up on your site."
These are just a few of the adult consequences of dealing with the adult industry. I’ve tried to treat you like an adult by keeping this mostly to private messages. But if you insist upon airing this, well, I’m game. Let’s get it on. I’m sure the readers here and those of all the other Adult industry blogs will be glad to know how quick you are to throw them, and your own people, under the bus.
I’ve made this as easy for you as possible,. Pull the piece. Pull Darrah. Stop outing the whores. Simple. Easy. No headaches for anyone.
But, again, if you want to let this "blow up on your site," well, hey. bust a move.
http://pornstarbabylon.wordpress.com/2008/07/19/ill-make-it-easier-for-everyone/
I’ll make it easier for everyone.
July 19, 2008
I will not be contributing anymore at LukeIsBack.com. NL has been getting harassed and threatened with having his identity exposed because of me by someone named JimB. I met JimB on one of the adult forums. Everyone acts like a piece of trash and it’s somehow okay. I act the way I do and I’m the bad one. The final point came with this post about the porn star turned pastor. JimB and a few of his cronies didn’t like that I was “exposing” her and running her name. I told JimB that it’s already well known and the rumors have been around for a while. I checked Google and GUESS WHAT? It’s been out for a while and the religious community knows all too well about her.
You and your friends call the porn girls every horrible name imaginable. But “exposing” what millions already knew about the pastor is worse?
I’ll be here on my own, making my own rules, staying away from the porn forums, and trying to get my life back to normal before ever meeting JimB and those few others. Thank you!
I always love a good boycott. Pointless to the extreme, you can never boycott something without drawing more attention to it.
and btw, where the fuck is germy steal? now he’s left, the irony of me linking to his site is gone. FFS people may actually assume I’m him.
NL,
Keep doing what you are doing. You are finding your way. Since you changed servers the website loads very fast. It used to choke on my browser not too long ago. You’re updating regularly, and you are getting there. This guy Jimbo is busting your balls, but that’s it. Try to find your voice and bring some
personality to the stage. And don’t worry about pleasing everybody. There are so many damaaged souls in the porn biz
you’ll find they will turn on you on a dime.
“this is a chick site from the word go” Hmmm …. Mike South clearly you have some issues with females. Is there something you wish to tell us? ^^
HIM?
Theres no way the new luke is a him, unless it’s perez hilton’s younger brother (and ust as gay)this is a chick site from the word go and judging by all the excitement stuff I will lay odds its cindi loftus from excitement. The only reason I haven’t broken that officially yet is because…well…it aint that newsworthy.
Cindi Loftus has been putting her interviews up on LIB for years. Search her name. There are 90 links to her on here.
http://www.lukeisback.com/stars/stars/gina_lynn.htm
http://www.lukeisback.com/stars/stars/tera_patrick.htm
I love chicks…Im just tellin ya I have been around this biz long enough to be able to distinguish writing styles. This is Cindi Loftus I’d bet big bucks on it…any takers?
“I have told you what is the matter with outing whores.”
Jim B I know you are not big on religion but have you been paying attention her story is not a big secret on the Web.
One thing is to out a regular woman trying to leave a normal life as a exwhore and the other is to out a televangelist that gets money from the old and the gullible. And has spent a lot of time in buying back her past. Her wikipedia acticle was torn down and up several times for example. If fact she was outed only for the porn community. The rest of the world already knew.
“You studied her writing style” Are you serious?! What is she, Hemmingway! I don’t think it’s her at all. Too many people would know. How could she get this bunch sworn to secrecy? Unfortunately I’m broke or I’d take your bet Mike
when you read a lot like I do styles are as recognizeable as voices. Funny you picked Hemmingway, he is one of my favs along with Twain and Steinbeck, American treasures all of them.
I certainly wouldn’t put notluke in that company, I wouldn’t even put her in the company with realluke I’m just saying you dont have to study a voice to recognize it.
Not newsworthy Mike? What would you know about anything being newsworthy? You haven’t posted anything newsworthy in about two years. And even with the new contributors on your site, it’s rare when it’s actually updated. I can go a week without checking your site and everything I missed would still be on the front page.
I have not, and WILL not, outed “NL’s” identity, despite the crazy conclusions NL jumped to assuming as much after I called NL by her real name in a private message. The real name that SHE HERSELF GAVE TO ME.
I will only confirm that Mike is correct; NL IS a female. I am only confirming this much because my alternative is to refer to NL as “it,” and that would be disrespectful.
To rics: It wouldn’t matter if a former PW turned out to be Idi Amin. The notion of Porn people (directors, performers, bloggers or whomever) outing them is repugnant to me. Beyond the safety issue, there’s the fact that the former PWs are trying to succeed in regular civilian careers now and don’t want to face discrimination or judgement in the work place.
You’re right, I detest religion in all it’s forms. But I would have the same standard for any employment no matter what the PW decided to do after porn. To do otherwise would send us down a slippery slope towards an open season on retirees. Make no mistake: If the Jesus Freaks are outing her it’s probably her bad karma at work. I just don’t think Porn people should be helping them.
I never said I had any power, honey. You and NL just assumed that because I happen to know I guy that I’m some kind of Czar. Just like you assumed that the guy was Mike Albo.
The only reason I’m commenting here is to clear the record. NL did, in fact, give me her name in a MySpace message. I e-mailed her a JPEG of it. If she’s got even a smidgen of honesty, she’ll amend the record accordingly.
I’ve never bullied you or anyone else. Satire, sure? But threaten anyone? That’s something the two of you concocted in your paranoid heads. The only thing I threatened was a boycott and that was more rhetorical than anything else. I once threatened to boycott the REAL Luke and he still thinks I’m a decent guy.
BTW: I’m not the one who let it out that Real Luke was the guy behind that story for all the world and Luke’s Rabbi to see. NL was. I tried to warn her that she was going to hurt Luke by doing so, but she perceived it as a threat. Talk about taking yourselves too seriously.
If the two of you would relax a bit, you’d do a lot better.
I thought you said you were boycotting LIB Jim. I thought you were going to get everyone at XPT to boycott. You’re the one that threatened NL saying you will do everything in your power to hurt him financially and drive down LIB’s Alexa ratings. And all because NL “exposed” a con that millions in the religious community already knew. You threaten NL to pull the story and to get rid of me. You’re the one that has threatened me saying my porn career is ruined and I’ve sealed my own fate. Even though you and I were playing nice on email this past week with you trying to “help” me with certain new ideas for my blog. But of course it was all a lie right just so you can go running to XPT like a stupid school girl.
You don’t give a shit about any of the women and male performers in porn. You degrade them by calling them every name in the book on XPT but then get on your soapbox preaching how we shouldn’t be “outing” them.
I despise anyone in the religious community who live in such excess wealth conning people to hand over their hard earned money so they can maintain their high-end lifestyle. I ran the story and I don’t regret it. I’m not running a story on a former porn star minding her own business in a small town in the middle of no where trying to raise her children. I exposed a con artist.
You think of yourself way too highly and how much power you actually think you have. You’re pathetic and a joke. I know what I am but I have never taken myself seriously the way you take yourself seriously. I am my harshest. And to think Luke told me that you’re a decent guy. Decent men don’t go around hating on women, threatening them, and bullying them. Go away and leave us alone.
Oh, and Darrah, I’m not Mike South. Just another faulty conclusion you jumped to.
BTW: I screencapped it just in case NL tries to remove it. Just like I screencapped the message where she gives me her real name.
Ginko Biloba, anyone?
Where the fuck did I ever say I thought you and South are the same? The last thing I said about him was about those two pictures he posted on his blog against me. I said that he was saying a reader sent them in but that I now think it’s him and being the same jackass at XPT and with the bogus Myspace account against me. Are you saying that you are the pathetic loser with no life photo shopping those pictures and creating bogus accounts and impersonating me?? Do you have a life outside of porn forums?? YOU are the one that started everything against me but then trying to play nice after. Then you start rearing your ugly head, you turn all the blame on me. You and South both hate women and you have no fucking life than to photoshop pictures and create bogus accounts.
You harass and threaten both NL and I but now say it’s all satire?? You have done nothing but harass and bully me since you met me and then you accuse me of being paranoid. You then harass and threaten to ruin NL’s blog and ruin NL financially but NL and I are both paranoid who jump to conclusions when it was all SATIRE with you. Do us and the world a favor by opening your window now and jumping head first. OKAY!
“Did you ever think NL was on that dummy account to see who it really was??”
If you like, I can show you where “NL” calls the whole thing “Hysterical !” just say the word and I’ll post it on XPT, where I’ve posted the rest of “NL’s” meltdown.
http://www.xxxporntalk.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=monkeycage&Number=330437&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1
I especially like the part where “NL” thinks I’m so “influencial” (sic) that I can have a post pulled.
I think I’m going to rent “The China Syndrome” tonight.
Still waiting on “NL” to admit she gave me her name herself…
“Where the fuck did I ever say I thought you and South are the same? ”
HERE:
http://pornstarbabylon.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/mike-south-really-loves-me/
“South is saying a reader sent this in to him. Or maybe my imposter is Mike South himself.”
I tried to help you many times. I tried to calm you down and keep you from making an ass of yourself on XPT. I showed you Skeeter’s Megan’s Law Registry and explained to you that you could legally say that he’s a registered sex offender. You got all paranoid and were afraid you were going to get sued, despite that it’s from the California Attorney General’s website. Which is pretty fucking funny because you helped that Leah Kleim chick libel Sam Chanin by alleging he’s a child molestor without a scintilla of evidence. Just a rumor floating in the Jewish community.
Pron Starr Babble On is clearly satire and pretty funny if I do say so myself. Funny enough that “NL” is that account’s Number One Friend on MySpace. Go look it up. Way to throw your star writers under the bus.
Yeah, I had some laughs with that. Sue me. You’ll find that Satire is clearly not actionable.
Best of luck,
D. Fnord, PhD.
“you can never boycott something without drawing more attention to it.”
NOW you’re catching on, Jed me boy. This utterly public meltdown is hilarious.
Did you ever think NL was on that dummy account to see who it really was??
It’s not a meltdown. It’s called being pissed off.
And if I want to say a big FU to someone or photoshop pictures, I will do it with my won accounts. I don’t hide behind names. So both you and Mike South can both fuck each other and die.
:bluto: From now on, your Delta Tao Kai name is… “Chernobyl.”:/bluto:
I am not Jim B LOL
and PSB Guess what I update whenever the fuck I want to and it DONT COST YOU ANYFUCKINGTHING.
You want daily or hourly updates fine, I cant do that for 4.99 a day.
You dont like it dont fucking go to my site, I dont want you.
So how bout dat.
AND Nobody has disclosed NLs identity to me Im making an educated guess based on these facts
The styles are the same
Theres suddenly a shitload of content from excitement magazine
excitement bob posts here (he is cindis husband)
Nobody wants to take my bet yet, not even cindi or bob….hmmmmmm
For the record, I’m much more of a Fitzgerald guy that a Hemmingway guy. Check out Matthew Bruccoli’s definitive “The Complete Short Stories of F. Scott Fitzgerald.” GREAT read.
I think every whore’s real name should be public record.
My guess is that NL can pull a chair,bring the popcorn and let that thread fill the site for the next month to come 🙂
Since Darrah has already confirmed that NL is Cindi…
http://pornstarbabylon.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/the-new-lib-owner-is-a-chick-and-im-contributing-again-at-lib/
I would like it known that I never outed her or threatened to do so. i called her by her name because IT’S HER NAME. What was I supposed to call her, “cuntrag?”
For those interested, the unredacted MySpace message can be found on XPT:
http://www.xxxporntalk.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=dvdtalk&Number=331272&page=0&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=&vc=1&PHPSESSID=
Well, Cindi, how about it.
SO…now it’s official.NL is Cindi Loftus
http://pornstarbabylon.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/the-new-lib-owner-is-a-chick-and-im-contributing-again-at-lib/
Jeez, U.S. & Mike — the author’s name is spelled H-e-m-i-n-g-w-a-y, Try not to look like such illiterates, okay? & Jim B., your snarky, sanctimonious toying with ignorant, narcissistic little Darrah &, if it’s indeed her, the esteemed, pleasant & honest Cindi Loftus, comes off as pretty pathetic. Unless it’s all a hype that you & Cindi cooked up to bring attention back to the site. Otherwise, gotta tell ya, man, you’re starting to remind me of that mistress-of-her-own-domain who runs ADT. Considering the foul, often potentially libelous shit said on XPT about industry folk for the sole purpose of self-amusement, “standing up” for Melissa Scott’s “privacy” is very arch of you, to say the least. You don’t give a shit, you just want something to be an asshole about to anybody you can get a rise out of — hey, just like a schoolyard bully! Oh, mighty internet warrior! We bow & scrape before thee!
Wow. I’ve been called out by David Allen Clark. Boy do I feel put in my place.
DAMMIT I HATE always being right….
And I knew its Hemingway, and that pisses me off. DAC you rock dude…BTW watched Audition ;ast night, didn’t disturb me nearly as much as Imprint but it did have it’s own “story that could hit home appeal”
Thanks for suggesting it brudda
“Mike South wrote:
DAMMIT I HATE always being right….”
You know, Mike, I ALWAYS read the sunday comics over at http://www.washingtonpost.com. They’ve got ’em all.
But, for my money, there is nothing quite so hilarious as Darrah & Cindi’s meltdowns here on LiB. Fucking Priceless.
Does AVN have an award for this? I’d bribe ’em just to see this win.
Well…when I did post that NL was Cindi,Jim B post wasn’t there…I wonder how this happen?
Leslie, she obviously saw my “Moderation” post on XPT:
http://www.xxxporntalk.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=dvdtalk&Number=331271&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1
“Al Czervix wrote:
I think every whore’s real name should be public record.”
That will make their deratdation even more public. Very interesting in a perverted way.
Interesting, but still wrong. Besides the stalker issue, these former PWs need to establish lives and jobs after porn. Outing one because she might be a hypocrite preacher send us on the slippery slope where it’s open season on ALL former PWs. Is that so hard a concept to grasp.
If the jesus freaks want to out the whore, that’s their business. But people in the industry (or wannabes like Darrah) shouldn’t be helping them.
I’m going to give Darrah the benefit of the doubt. I think even she is starting to get this. That’s why she deleted her post about it on ADT:
http://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/forum/topic.dlt/topic_id=123382/forum_id=1/cat_id=1/reply=1347475
Curiously, though, she still hasn’t deleted it from her own site:
http://pornstarbabylon.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/exclusive-shelley-lubben-interview/
Dear “Jim B.”: It’s David Aaron Clark, not “Allen,” you “industry insider,” you. Screencap it for future reference.
Never claimed to be one. Just shoes how irrelevant you really are.
Jim B. is that your name or your self medicating drink of choice? Actually you read like someone that prefers a nice 24 pack of cheap beer. You come off as someone suffering a severe Napolionic Complex. You must be very short or have a very small dick. Or, perhaps both! Save the “Whores” Don’t out the “whores” “Protect the Whores!” Forgive me but you sound like a …. SCHMUCK, yes, that’s the word I was searching for.
The lunacy is back at LIB!