Who Are The Most Extreme Producers?

Fundo writes on ADT: "Who are the producers who are the most extreme in the way they treat female talent–especially new female talent. I’m compiling information for the producer database that new talent can access so they know what they are in for with each producer. Who pisses the most on girls, who uses the most verbal abuse, the most degrading scenes, the most shocking content. Please provide examples. Jim Powers is first on the no-list."

TMD5 posts:

I’ve never understood what’s so extreme about Max Hardcore. I don’t hate his movies and think some are good, but nothing all that extreme.

Ok, he:
1. smears lipstick all around their lips. I guess that’s his way of "degrading" them. Whatever.
2. uses dildos repaired with duck tape
3. uses metal bondage devices on women’s mouths and then cums in their mouth.
4. I guess calling women sluts and whores is extreme or something. Oh yeah, he also hangs out at parks waiting for chil..err adults dressed like schoo…err college girls.
5. Oh wait, he pushes their rectums through their vaginas. Ooops, forgot that one!
6. Gaping Asses. Nothing that special that i’ve seen yet.

Sure, there is fisting, puking and golden showers but that’s all in only his stuff made outside the USA. Compared to some other stuff out there it’s really nothing too extreme.

As for being the most extreme, that’s such a joke. No chance of that happening.

Some of his fisting stuff is really pathetic and you shouldn’t advertise it as containing fisting when it does not. Kinda like that "Violation of.." series.

I don’t know why, but I seem to think that a lot of the gonzo stuff made in the last few years is much more "hardcore", maybe not so much extreme.

First you have double anal, creampies, enemas where the women shoot milk out of their ass and then lick it up and whatever else I can’t come up with. Hell, max only seems to film himself. How can you be all that extreme with only one person every single movie.

I’m curious to know…what is the name of his movie where he had Catalina puking? Probably not sold anymore, but i’m curious.

Ohh, for the answer. The most extreme stuff is sold in Japan by far. I’d go with AVS-Video, Natural High and Gloryquest. SOD (Soft on Demand) did once, but they’ve toned down their stuff for some reason. Now it’s all Vivid type stuff it seems.

Fundo posts:

Thanks for the start of the list. If producers are going to make extreme content they won’t have it so easy to fool new talent into performing for them. The new database will enable those who want to take advantage of it to get a feel for what they are in for. If they want to shoot with these producers fine, hopefully some will be turned off by working with them and it won’t just be pornstarperformance dot com ragging on talent anymore. Any bad experience with a producer will go up, like a review board. Big Mike check out facial abuse if you haven’t already. Luke will advertise the new site if I pay him (and I will) and the female talent will get the word out or even use the new site to get even.

Jim Powers
Max Hardcore
Kit Kat Club (Looking into them)
Ekstream
Facial Abuse (They piss on newbies too scared to say no)
Khan Tusion

Duke [of FacialAbuse.com], thanks for making my point about producers like you for me. I know the other side of the story–and what you say above doesn’t mention the coercion that you used to get the scene with Julea London. What female performer, new to the business, will ever want to work with you after they read the comments above, which will be on the new site. And Luke is going to have alot of new reports about extreme producers to post on his website, courtesy of any female talent that want to make a report about a bad experience with a producer.

Duke, the purpose of the new website for female talent to refer to before deciding to work with porn producers like you is first so they can be better informed. Obviously when a future performer, not yet in the business, makes use of the new database where you are listed, she’ll know that you plan on treating her this way, and if she still wants to work for you, then you’ll get a better scene.

On the other hand, I hope that new talent by and large refuses to work with you and all other extreme producers. When it is hard for you to recruit new talent for your productions thanks to the female talent reading your comments in the above post I’ll bet all the hot new talent avoids your productions. That will make it hard for you to compete in adult with producers who they want to work with.

Escorts already have a system like this–a way to out unpleasant johns aka hobbyists so that the next girl doesn’t see them. The hobbyist is then forced to change his identity. But it won’t be so easy for a porn producer such as yourself to change your identity.

As for comments about girls who are already in the industry, the new site isn’t for them. They already know or are already too far gone or even have too short of a career to be concernced about what newbs need to know.

For instance, all new girls need to know that AIM does not test for Herpes and other STDs, and new girls need to demand that anyone they work with be tested for Herpes. If a girl gets Herpes on a producers set, there will be links to several law firms that are friendly to listening to the complaints of prospective clients.

As for the site, there will be no email or links available where new talent can contact me. The only links will be to the legitimate talent agencies, and a step by step guide on how to trademark a stage name, use it first in commerce, register a domain name, get photos taken, how to contact Holly Randall and a select group of quality photographers, like Matt at Matt’s Models, an explanation of why it is important not to do too much work in the first few months, how talent agencies are really just escort agencies, and the owners motivation is to book talent into as many shoots as possible–even if it isn’t good for their career, and also the site is aimed at the so called suitcase pimps and so of the performers, since so many newbies are brought to the business by boyfriends. And of course there will be the short list of the worst, most extreme producers to avoid, with links to their content proving why it should be avoided. And links to the several adult news sites, and a list of the top 20 companies to work for.

For the seasoned performers who have been allowing porners to degrade and abuse them, there is no hope. Fortunately, in 2 years almost 90 percent of the talent will be brand new to the industry. They can be reached.

Random Precision posts:

To be honest, anybody who doesn’t have enough common sense at 18 years of age to sit down at a computer and do 5 hours of research into the industry she’s planning on getting into kinda deserves whatever she gets.

I don’t even buy a microwave without checking online to see which brands and models get good reviews and which ones get lousy reviews. And I’ve been doing that for years. My cousin’s 15 year old researched MP3 players for a week before she bought one.

You can say 18 year olds can be naive. OK. Fine. But at 18, there’s no excuse for it that’s good enough unless the girl has serious mental problems. And if her problems are that severe, she shouldn’t be doing anything without some kind of adviser or caregiver.

Duke Skywalker (facialabuse.com) posts: "fundo, mind you, i still have Julea under contract :)and if at anytime you are in new york i will show you the pre and post interviews with her. Also, why dont you ask chico wang about how intense my release forms are. He thinks we are nuts paying that much attention to detail as we do. About how we disclose everything that will be done etc. Even having girls checking off and initiling the specific sex act to be performed and not to be performed. We give the performer a safe word, and a sign lanuage word, namely a time out sign if the actress cant verbalize her need for a break. So dont listen to a meth smokin hoe brother. Listen to the truth."

Chico Wang posts:

Recently I shot a scene for my good friend Duke at Facial Abuse. I wasn’t prepared for how comprehensive the releases were. After all, I’m in Porn Valley and have shot for numerous video and Internet companies where the model releases are roughly about the same.

If a girl cannot fathom a "Video" release where every nook and cranny of what’s going to happen on the set is detailed and she gives agreement, then there is obviously something wrong.

Not only does she sign it but the process is done on video tape as well. I figured that’s the way they do it in the East Coast.

Now every producer in Porn Valley has horror stories, particularly with new girls who come in, CASH THEIR CHECKS, get caught by their parents or friends, and come out with some wacky story about how they were coerced into doing it. After all, it can’t be their fault, could it?

The boys at Facial Abuse make sure that every ‘i’ is dotted and every ‘t’ is crossed. And at anytime, the girl can say NO. After all, none of us are mind readers.

To say that they are coercing people like the boys at Meatholes supposedly coerced people (trust me, I was there) is pure bullshit. Nobody at either Meatholes, Facial Abuse or Vivid for that matter coerces any of these girls. The do’s and don’ts are well thought out beforehand and presented to the girls well before the Record button is pressed.

There is a niche for everything. If there wasn’t, everything would be the same. All you have to do is simply move on to the next MILF site or BIG ASS site. It’s pretty obvious to me that those who condemn watch the videos in their own perverted way then denounce it after blowing a wad on their belly.