From GFY, this makes the most sense of anything I’ve read about the HBO series:
TONY IS DEAD
Body: Tony Soprano was killed….In fact, the ending was genius if you’ve paid attention to the show or are just a fan of well developed well thought out plots that all tie together and have the memory of a champ to remember it all the ending was simple, he got killed, but let me tell y’all why and explain in detail… There was 4 people in the room total who had a reason to kill tony…..
The two black guys were paid before to kill Tony when his mother put a hit out on him but he was clipped in the ear in Season One.
The trucker at the booth near Tony was the brother of a Trucker, Christopher killed in DVD player robbery. We last saw the brother when he went to identify his dead brother’s body.
And lastly, from the earlier seasons, the Italian man who was sitting at the counter stool, who the camera kept focusing in on, is Nikki Leotardo, Phil Leotardos nephew. He was in one of the early season episodes where Phil and Tony have a sit down….
Here is where the genius comes in….
When Tony walks into the Holston’s, you see the camera focus on him, then it switches to his perspective, and you see him looking @ the booth hes gonna sit at…
Then the camera switches back to Tony’s face, then it once again
switches to his perspective, and it shows him looking @ the door and looking @ the people come in….. Everytime the door opens the chimes sound…….Carmela walks in, Chimes.
AJ walks in, Chimes.This all happens while Meadow is parallel parking, still trying to get inside the restaurant….
At this point the camera switches back Nikki Leotardo who goes in the bathroom…
Then it goes to a scene where Meadow finally parks and starts running into the diner…
The door is about to open, Tony looks up…
and No Chimes…
No Music…
Everything just goes black…
In one of the early episodes of the Sopranos, Tonys is talking with Bobby about what it must feel like to die.
Bobby says, "at the end, you probably dont hear anything, everything just goes black!"
This idea was revisited in the second to last episode during the
last seconds of it, when Tony is about to go to sleep and he flashes back to the memory of him and Bobby on the boat… "You probably dont hear anything everything just goes black"So in the end, the Journey song was playing, the chimes on the door sounded but when Meadow came in, someone killed Tony.
This is the reason you didn’t hear or see sh!t when he died…. it was from his perspective… and everything went black, then the credits.
bada bing
Michael emails:
Hi Luke, how are you my man. I enjoyed reading that Tony Soprano’s death theory, even though I’m not agreed with that. In fact, here is how David Chase, creator of the series, responds to that theory in an interview:
"I feel the need to debunk the e-mail that’s making the rounds about all the Holsten’s patrons being characters from earlier in the series. The actor playing Member’s Only guy had never been on the show before, Tony killed at least, one if not both of his carjackers, and there are about 17 other things wrong with this popular but incorrect theory."
Also, according to some yet unconfirmed rumors I read in People’s magazine last week, a Sopranos movie is in the making, and the shooting will start in december.
One more thing: did you notice the cameo appearance by David Chase in the final scene? He’s the guy wearing a jacket and baseball hat who walks into the Holsten’s right after Tony, and sits in the corner. While Meadow is parking her car outside, we see him again sitting alone in the corner with his head down. It was an amazing ending, like nothing I’ve seen before. Hope there would be a Sopranos movie soon.
The guy is wrong, they lived happily ever after and there will be a few movies.
So suck on it!!
You’re going to cover the Sopranos here huh? Well, I agree it makes sense – but only if you accept the character identification this guy lays out as accurate. As a journalist Luke, maybe you should do some fact checking. I can’t verify, but commentaries from the vast array of opinions you can find debunk this speculation altogether. That is, by merely verifying the actors that were in these episode you will find that this guys theory cannot be true. The guy at the counter for instance was not Phil’s nephew. He had never been in a Soprano’s episode before this.
In fact, the more I watch this episode the more I’m ocnvinced Tony is not dead – or at least that there’s not any evidence from the closing scene to think he is. Tony has sized up situations like this a million times. That guy at the counter was about as threatening as a hamster. All the mobsters in this series have had an edge to them tha was obvious. If Tony did get killed it wasn’t by anyone we saw in the scene. The key is really in the Journey song “It goes on and on and on and on” – that thing of theirs. It was not Tony’s day to get taken out.
AND there WAS a chime when the door opens..
Theory’s bunk.
“Not from Chase, but I feel the need to debunk the e-mail that’s making the rounds about all the Holsten’s patrons being characters from earlier in the series. The actor playing Member’s Only guy had never been on the show before, Tony killed at least, one if not both of his carjackers, and there are about 17 other things wrong with this popular but incorrect theory.”
http://blog.nj.com/alltv/2007/06/david_chase_speaks.html
In the credits it says:
“Guy in Members Only Jacket”
It was not Phil Leotardo’s nephew. I saw an interview with “member’s only jacket” guy before the episode. He had never been on the Soprano’s before.
Allen Sepinwall of the Star Ledger has an interview with Chase and has debunked the “Holstens Patrons” meme.
“-Not from Chase, but I feel the need to debunk the e-mail that’s making the rounds about all the Holsten’s patrons being characters from earlier in the series. The actor playing Member’s Only guy had never been on the show before, Tony killed at least, one if not both of his carjackers, and there are about 17 other things wrong with this popular but incorrect theory. “
I was happy to read this for more than one reason. On its surface it is a reprint of something that luke lifted from the HBO site. That means either luke regurgitating his own expressions or he truly is recycling others trash, either way luke is endorsing the shit above. That makes me happy. Why? Cause there us plenty of flawed thug logic in it. I must confess that I only recently started watching the Sopranos, so I don’t know if what is claimed above is correct or not. Nevertheless the two tutsunes whacking Tony makes no sense. Committing a hit years after the customer is dead makes no sense, neither does being hired again after the first attempt failed. But luke either passively or actively endorsing such flawed logic tells me that he is only a 10th as smart as he thinks he is. All the other rambling notions support my belief that he is a complete poser and so alone that he is willing to publish the straw grasp as above.
I also must confess that when the last moment of the last episode went black I thunked that my TiVo was on the fritz, but by the time the credits ran I knew that Tony got wet and the show, either the last episode or the past 7 years, was as seen threw the eyes of the sociopath Tony. The closing of Uncle Junes days was a valid telling of the pointlessness and cruelty at core of the existence of every predator, beit gangster, cop, attorney, politician or half fag (total scumbag) half defunct wordsmiths that find justification in preying on others, yet they wake up tomorrow to do it all over again. Any-motherfucking-way the character that was and the character of Tony Soprano reside in the place of the good jews.
On to more real world news Yoseph Duar and his sister had shipments (three containers) of sunshinie product disappear on the way to an international sale. Some figured that the receipts just went south as much of his cash has a tendency of doing. Actually, InterPol traced large sums disappearing into the hills of Spain. At least $100,000 three times, and the funds finding its way into the hands of the Basks. Check 2004 & 2005 protocols for conformation. There you have it NSA the smoking gun that Scura & Daur are in the business of funding international terrorists post 9-11-2001. Also follow the $181,000 to Jersey Island accounts, that disappeared into the middle east, but not jewish hands as originally claimed. That was 1st Q of 2005. More to follow
PS i love how the Rob weston tales of wife/girlfriend beating disappear. lily-livered cowards and woman beaters. your mothers did some number on you.
PPS the above (above above) was verified from bonanza this side of the temple