Donny Pauling posts on XXXChurch.com:
J & R are very good people. We don’t talk anymore. I’m not entirely sure why that is, but after the last adult industry convention, where they spent a few days with Belinda and her new boyfriend, they will no longer speak to me. That bums me out. I miss being able to say hello to them or to Razz them about using those inferior PCs.
A fellow photographer from Portland is a person I still consider to be a very good friend. He goes by the name Aaron Matthews. He’s very talented. Like I did, Aaron produces content for several companies, the most recognizable include Hustler and Penthouse. He makes a very good living and travels the world. He loves his job. Aaron has a strong personality, but is one of the most tender hearted people I’ve met in my life. If you tell him I said so he’ll laugh and try to deny it, but it’s true. Aaron allows himself to be vulnerable to his friends. He opens himself up and gives access to those he cares about, which makes him easy to wound if his heart isn’t treated right. He has little patience for ignorance. In reality, Aaron is the only person from the adult industry that has not turned on me since I’ve become a Christian.
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Lately I’ve been making an attempt to contact former models. I want to let them know that I am no longer producing porn, and that I wish to apologize for ever getting them involved in the business. After apologizing, if the conversation continues, I also want to interview those who are willing to be interviewed. I want to find out if working with my former business has had any effect on their life.
Last week I sent a MySpace message to one of them. Here is her reply:
Huh… funny you should write. I just got a fresh reminder of why I regret everyday doing what I did for your business. Thanks for that.
She hasn’t bothered replying to the follow up message I sent.
Ah,the bannality of evil……..
It seems that the only former models who are confortable to discuss their porn past in public are either those who still hang around the sex industry, or those that have found Jesus. The rest prefer to quietly disappear. You should do more porn postmortens intervews like Keri/Aria, if you can find the subjets. Maybe asking in several Sex Workers Recovery Forums. The french canadian documentary about actress Raffaela Andersson, La Petit Morte started in the same way. She was one the few really retired, not in porn hiatus, stripping or escorting, former porn stars willing to talk no holds barred.
Porn postmortens would be a interesting proyect. And once they stopped stripping her bodies naked, you could help them stripp their souls.
This is such a crock of shit-
You don’t have to be a Christian to know and realize that dumb girls make bad decisions everyday.
If it wasn’t you they found Donny, it would have been a lesser schmuck promising these girls a crack at mainstream motion pictures and TV shows.
I think you have found a good way of becoming an informant for the Religious Right, and while you feel you are not Anti- porn you definitely come across as bitter towards it.
Look, I am glad you have a conscience Donny, and feel bad that many girls have hit the skids after you shot them…BUT this is NOT your fault!
I suppose you could have not hired them, and then they wouldn’t have YOUR money to buy their drugs or their new stupid Chihuaha…but someone else would, and you know why?
Cause these chicks CHOOSE to do what they do…
Like my mentor and great philosopher/ Rapper Too $hort always tells me- ” Bitches choose everyday, some make good choices- but for the most part, they all are short sided and only want the easy way out of anything”.
So Donny, bear in mind, these girls choose to do what they do- you never once put a gun to anyone’s head did you?
While I don’t like the notion of condemning individuals I do believe that their actions are fair game. Sure there are dumb girls, that is unfortunate. Making a living off of them, that is predatory, predatory actions are hurtful, cruel and wrong. Knowing that something is wrong and doing it… that’s where the rub is. Cruelty, prey, abuse is contradictory to the human condition. Resigning to commit those behaviors because that helps someone achieve his or her goals should be cause to reevaluate such goals and association with individuals with such goals.
All that said, I only watch Luke’s websites because his internal conflict is hysterical. He knows what he does is wrong, yet he continues to do so. Sure he creates interesting and elaborate rationalizations and justifications for doing as he does but watching his continued self -deconstruction and rebuilding spiraled by self loathing is very very funny. No matter what personality flaw that reveals, it is still funny.
In closing, Rob Black, Luke Ford, Max Hardcore, and rabbis that rape children are all equally evil. They all know that what they do is wrong, that they hurt people yet they will pick themselves up again tomorrow and do it again. That is why what they do is wrong and an argument can be made that these individuals are evil.
Sincerely,
Luke’s mom
It could have been an honest and powerful book if she had just spoken in “I” statements about her own personal experience, rather then assuming that her experience can be applied wholesale to everybody else in the business. This way she sounds like a person who is trying to convince others, seeking justifications in generalizations and refusing to take full responsibility for her own actions. It‚Äôs a weakness that turns this writing effort into a wasted opportunity, noble intentions none withstanding.
This list is a farce! I can’t find my name anywhere on it!!!
“Azamat wrote: While I don‚Äôt like the notion of condemning individuals…”
Azamat, that’s all you do, judging and condemning people. You are a liar and a hypocrite, you hurt people around you every day and you don‚Äôt even notice. Go, do some serious soul searching where it is needed most, in your own life.
“Azamat wrote: While I don’t like the notion of condemning individuals…”
Azamat, that’s all you do, judging and condemning people. You are a liar and a hypocrite, you hurt people around you every day and you don’t even notice. Go, do some serious soul searching where it is needed most, in your own life.
Vanessa, I don’t earn my keep by seeking porn people to bash and seek their funds (as at left), that is hypocrisy. I don’t practice what I condemn. Praying on others, weak or strong, is wrong I do not do that. I do criticize a critic that is a hypocrite. What Luke does is wrong, that is were his chronic fatigue stems from. He hurts people, I do not,.. I hold up a mirror. I am responsible for what is in the reflection. I do serious soul searching, often I find it refreshing. when i find an error or a flaw I acknowledge the mistake and fit it. Others work on excuses and pray for understanding and acceptance rather than just correcting the offensive behavior that is clearly wrong.
Perhaps i am missing something? I doubt it, but surely I capable of error. Please do tell, in your opinion what should I be searching? Your, I mean Luke’s willingness to pray on others then call out others for doing exactly that? Is that it? Please tell me what needs evaluation.
Thanks in advance,
Luke Wallabee
Dear Amazat, You sound genuinely confused and this is why I will be kind to you. But I am upset you lied to me about being Luke’s mother. You must know that we people in the various entertainment and sex business are used to daily violence and expoitatin of ourselves and others viciously. America is lacks the soul of true spirituality and peace and when we look in the mirror often we cannot see but the devils face in us. Our parents often fail us and teach us to prey upon the weak and the strong, instead of praying. We cannot fix this. The flaw is too big without plastic surgeon general. Especially not until the leftist party of liberal porn bashers is finally defeated from California and the government.
In fewer words: If you would like to argue that porn is wrong, you have simply chosen the wrong way to do it. Why is porn bad? Why do you believe that Luke hurts people? Where do you get these ideas? Your opinion is not enough in this case. Please state facts and support your arguments. If you really want to do that you will need to write at least a 10-page essay. Also, you must include your sources. Please submit your completed essay for consideration to lukeisback@gmail.com – Thank you.
PS to Azamat: And If you really want to help instead of pointing fingers you may want to think of making a charitable donation to an organization like the PAW Foundation. http://www.pawfoundation.org/pawhome.htm
Gosh, seems Luke doesnt even have to copy and past any more
Vanessa, i dont recall saying porn is bad. and thanks for schooling me on bad parents, although i disagree with “We cannot fix this.” some of us can. what i said is what i say. behaving bad is wrong, praying on the weak or foolish is wrong. at to the balance of what you wrote i think it speaks for itself.
Thanks,
Luke’s Iguana
Ps do no harm, rule #1
Azamat, You compare Luke Ford to a child rapist. You call Luke evil. You speak of his (and my?) willingness to pray on others, to pray on the weak.
What on earth are you talking about?
Do you not realize that you are making false and baseless accusations? Do you not know that your behavior is wrong? Do you not realize that you are breaking your own #1 rule not to harm by making these insulting accusations? And then you refuse to back them up with facts? You should apologize.
By the way, I can now see that English is not a language you understand very well. Maybe this is contributing to your not fully understanding what this site is all about, which is to show that there are a myriad different stories, one for every single person that ever worked in this business. Some tragic, some sad, some inspiring, some happy, some pointless, some interesting, some boring. We are meant to learn from those stories.
If you are looking for easy answers, for a simple world that is only made out of black and white, good and evil, this site is not the place where to look for it. And again, I’m sorry to have to point this out to you, but you made it clear that your language skills will not allow you to understand the nuances of truth that are reflected through the many stories and opinions (true and false) that you can find in the archives of this site. But, if you are willing to put some work into it and do your research, maybe you will be able to learn something new.
Ps: another good rule is: “Speak only of what you know”.
Well Vanessa,
Actually I have not accused anyone of anything, what I did was assert a basic principal, a rather simple one at that. Namely; hurting others is wrong. Seems that you are having such a hard time accepting such a basic principal that you are resorting to some pretty abrasive behavior to avoid the point rather than deal with it. You are asserting question to my nation of origin status my (clearly superior) linguistic skill as a means to change the focus from the matter at hand, again that is; hurting others is wrong.
Then there is the second aspect of your attack of the concept and that is to claim that my criticism is in conflict with the principal that I am exerting. Again that is flawed logic, what you are offering is like saying ‘we can not arrest people for kidnapping because holding them for trial would be very similar to holding them hostage’ that is circular logic at best. Flawed and circular. What I am saying is very simple; hurting others is wrong.
I see that you are really trying to wrap your melon around this one, that is why I have invested so much effort in explaining to you. I appreciate that you are really trying to do the right thing, in this case protecting a principal (freedom) and a fellow compatriot (luke), very admirable but you have to see if your position passes the back and forth test. Ask yourself if you would have treated the data; HURTING OTHERS IS WRONG, differently if it was delivered by Luke or even better You, and wait a minute, you did adapt the principal in your debate of my and that was to say ‘attacking luke is wrong’ (even though I did no such thing) but you sought the freedom to NOT be HARMED by OTHERS. And if you feel that luke and you deserve to be free of harm, then perhaps so should your victims.
As far as the industry goes I might know a thing or two. And if you really are part of the business you will understand that these girls are almost always the products of very dysfunctional homes and they are often re-enacting their abuse before the cameras. Trading in such residual terror is horrible. I am not saying that images of people making love are bad or dirty or wrong. Heck, I am not even claiming that images of two strangers performing animistic hot sex is wrong, even though if it is good it should be at least a little bit dirty, but I do not condemn the works, I condemn the actions that are required to produce such works, I condemn the desire and willingness to profit from others pain.
Hope I cleared that up. And if not too bad, I am tired of battling wits with an unarmed man.
Sincerely,
The aussie goat that gave luke wet dreams throughout his teen years
Azamat, you were the first to attack. You compared Luke Ford to a child rapist. You called Luke evil. You speak of his (and my?) willingness to pray on others, to pray on the weak. This is offensive.
Again, there are myriad different stories in porn, one for every single person that ever worked in this business, one for every single woman that was ever filmed in porn. Some tragic, some sad, some inspiring, some happy, some pointless, some interesting, some boring, some deadly. Some are about abuse and exploitation. Some are not. We are meant to learn from those stories.
If you are looking for clichés, for easy answers, for a simple world that is only made out of black and white, good and evil, this site is not the place where to look for it.
Porn is not evil. Porn is not good. I happen to have a great sympathy and respect for the people who work in porn. But maybe I’m just a fool.
What attack? everything that is not pleasing to your eyes or ears is not an attack. that awful feeling in the pit of your stomach is that understanding that praying on others is wrong. i did not nor do i compare luke to a child rapist. what i did and do say is simple praying on others is wrong. praying on the weak, strong, children, junkies or mr. universe is still praying on others. the act of praying is wrong. it seems that you cant swallow that simple truth so you attack the messenger instead of the message.
since you asked, yes you are a fool, but that has nothing to do with porn. porn is, in itself, actually neutral. making it by praying off the weak is not neutral, it is predatory. geez, asked and answered at least 3 times now. i am open to data that would exonerate your client but just slinging mud and stamping your feet porno good and its about a myriad of stories doesnt change the fact praying is wrong.
Azamat posts: “[…] Luke Ford, […], and rabbis that rape children are all equally evil. They all know that what they do is wrong, that they hurt people […]. That is why […] an argument can be made that these individuals are evil.”
The thread was labeled “Not all pornographers are scum” I was making a statement to contradict that. Also I specifically stated that I do not condemn the person, I condemn the act. With that I summarize that preying on children or 18 years old troubled girls or defective tough guys is all praying and in my opinion, praying on others is wrong. I know how desperately you don’t want to swallow that nugget so you keep trying to make it about something else, but the facts remain: PREYING ON OTHERS IS WRONG.
Azamat, I agree with you that preying on others is wrong. I agree with you that harming other human beings is wrong. I agree with you that exploiting the weak and vulnerable is wrong.
I don’t agree with your statement that the act of producing pornography always includes the above behaviors. In your original statement you wrote, “these individuals are evil”, so you specifically condemned the person, in addition to condemning the act.
At least we agree on the moral imperative “praying on others is wrong”.
Why are the words “praying” and “preying” almost identical? Is it only to confuse people like me? The “Praying Mantis” looks like she is “praying” but she really is “preying”. Are we sure of that?
I meant to say “preying on others is wrong”.