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Kevin Blatt, Jeff Miller, Cokeheads and Prostitutes

10/26/00

Jeff Miller from SunUp Media writes: Gene and Luke:

This will be the last comment made by SunUp Media, SunDown Media, and myself in regards to Mr. Kevin Blatt.

As you can see, now Kevin has moved to personal attacks. I have no more time for Kevin Blatt, I have a business to run. Apparently since Kevin is once again out of work, he has much more time than I do to attempt to publically humiliate me. Of course, he had the same amount of time on his hands when he was employed here. I say attempt, because anyone that has met Kevin does not take anything he says seriously.

Kevin's actions and history speak for themselves. After this e-mail, we will have no further comment on Kevin Blatt.

There are three items that do require our final comment as Kevin's delusions have affected others.

1. Kevin was not the co-founder of SunDown Media Group, Inc. We hired him, the company was already founded. The company was founded as a joint venture by SunUp Media Group and an Australian firm.

2. My comment about Joe Elkind being a cokehead: The statement that I made in regards to Joe Elkind was made in a private conversation via ICQ with Kevin. He was the one that forwarded it to Luke, thus making it public. The only knowledge that I have of Joe Elkind's drug use comes from Kevin Blatt himself. In a conversation regarding the legality of truecelebs, Kevin asked me if Joe could be sent to jail. I told him that under the law, it was possible but highly unlikely. Kevin responded that if their was no jail possibility that Joe would not care, as long as he still made money and had his coke and his pornstars.

3. Kevin and prostitutes. Kevin can deny it all he wants. My partner in AU is a bit upset about being called a liar. Kevin was pushing him several times during the evening to buy him a prostitute. Dennis refused to do it. In fact, they were supposed to meet the next day for lunch before Dennis headed back to LAX to catch his flight home. Dennis was so annoyed by Kevin's constant pushing for the prostitute, that he left early the next morning and cancelled lunch.

As for Kevins comments about friends and money. Big words coming from someone who really does not have either. Kevin has no money, and his list of friends is much shorter than he is aware. I, on the other hand, after building a tremendously successful business from nothing, have quite a bit of both. I am not ashamed of my wealth and standing in the industry. I have a wonderful personal life, a wife who is phenomenal, a fantastic son, a new daughter on the way, and more blessings than any one man deserves. Kevin has none of that, except in his delusional mind.

Enough said. Kevin Blatt and professionalism are only heard in the same sentence when they come from Kevin's mouth. The people that know Kevin, know this. The people that don't yet know Kevin, will learn this. Enough of the "woe is me, Kevin Blatt" saga. The yawns from the crowd are deafening.

Jeff Miller SunUp Media Group, Inc.

Luke says: We had a great fight Tuesday night on Luke F-rd Live between net porners Kevin Blatt and Jeff Miller (30 mins in). Listen here.

Big Dawg writes on Netpond: Hmmm...Coke and ho's...This board is wonderful for "exposing" the awful things people are doing...*laughs* I am thinking that we should have a "s---" board somewhere...Then people who have nothing better to do with their time could go and cause s---, start s---, make-up s---,lie about s--- and generally try to diss each other. Then this board can go back to business...Or a reasonable facsimile of business... Then again...It's always fun to watch as people belittle themselves when they verbally attack each other. Reminds me of my 3 year olds montesorri(sp?) school. "He said this, so I told his friend about that!" "Oh yeah?!?! Well I heard that so and so said something about that other kid, so I went and told her what some other girls told me that he said about you" All these "big men" in this industry with "big money" and yet not one of them can rise above the s---talking and conduct business like a businessman and not like 18 year olds with $100 hockey-card collections. Pity. On these boards, boys, people form opinions about you and the businesses you represent based on what you type. In my humble opinion, at the end of the day, you s---talkers like end up looking like fools.

Kevin Blatt responds: Dennis is a liar, I can prove everything he says is a complete distortion of the truth. I have credible witnesses who if need be will step in and make Jeff cry like the bitch he is.

Witnesses to my "letter of Intent" dated early June saying that the letter serves as a contract ( legally binding) until the proper paperwork is signed in " A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME"

Luke is 5 months reasonable to be working for free? Does anyone else out there see where this is stupid.

As for calling Joe a Crack head, he is not a crackhead, Jeff wanted to get some exit traffic from him and when he wouldn't do business he had to resort to calling him a criminal and "crack Head" I think it is sad that with every comment he makes he wishes me well and says I should drop it.

Luke I will NEVER take s--- from someone when I know it is 100% slanderous. The reason I sent the private ICQ was because on your show he said "I Never called Joe a crackhead"

When I produced the document all of sudden he admits it was a private ICQ So which is it Jeff? Am I a liar or are you?

And when did I ever say anything about truecelebs? It was you who said Joe is going down hard and I better keep clear of him for our business sake.

Jeff, Joe E has more class in his little finger than you have in your entirely flabby fat body. Maybe when you can see your dick again, you should think about getting laid, maybe I can arrange for Dennis to get you a whore.....hahahahahahaha

I have witnesses to that crap Luke, I made a joke to Dennis telling HIM I was going to buy him a hooker in front of D$, Adam, and Sabrina Daily. Purely a joke, and you use that as leverage Jeff. Get a life.

More importantly get a better bridge of teeth, there is more porcelain in your fat mouth than in my bathroom. Of course that may all shatter when you start shivering from fear when I forward all the private email of s--- you said about my friends in the business.

You are a pathetic excuse for a man, and one who sits behind his desk all day thinking up ways to "get people in court and make money." There are other ways Jeff, like actually working.

Ian writes: "Hi Luke, You said: "Oh wretched man that I am, who will deliver me from this burden of sin?" You take things too seriously. All it meant when you perked up at the sight/sound of Kevin Blatt and Jeff Miller abusing one another was that you find gossip enlivening. What would be immoral would be your instigating or inflaming the confrontation - and I don't see that you did that. It's like enjoying gossip columns, even though the circumstances of individual stories may well not feel very funny to the protagonists. You don't think rabbis enjoy gossip? Think again."

San Diego Party Girl writes: "Oh gross! KB is a scum with bad breath and losing his hair! He hits on me all the time so I could totally see him hiring prostitutes! His bro is way cool but kevin, yuck. All I ever hear him do is talk talk talk talk talk talk talk KB this KB that, KBpoops, and nothing ever happens but i wish he would stop hitting on me! KB if you are listening, I would not f--- you if you were the last man on earth ok!"

Kevin Blatt responds: "San Diego Party girl is who? Hahahahahaha Receding hair I can fix but bad breath........maybe I should quit smoking. Funny thing is no girls I know in SD know who Luke F-rd is......hmmmmmmm."

Kevin Blatt called Luke Thursday afternoon.

Kevin: "I vehemently deny ever mentioning TrueCelebs.com [a celebrity site administered by JoeE and CEN]. I swear on my mother's life and my father's life and my life... The comment he made to me was that your buddy JoeE is in a lot of trouble. He stole pictures from Rolling Stone of Brittany Spears and all these major companies and they are going after him and he's going down hard. That's what he [Jeff Miller] said. And I said, JoeE is my friend.

"Then he said to me in the same breath, do you think you could get some exit traffic from him? I'm going to throw our s--- up on his exit console after he talks s--- about our friend JoeE?

"He loves to keep this thing going. He thinks he's making a name for himself.

"Thirty people get laid off from Flying Crocodile and I'm the headline today. Just remember Luke everything I said about Flying Crocodile... About it being more corporate, and the drugs and all that s---. Compare that to yesterday's source [on FCI], put them together and tell me that I am a liar? So am I a liar or is Jeff a liar? I was right about Flying Crocodile and I'm right about Jeff Miller. KB is two for two."

KMan (Keith Gatehouse) phoned from Florida, reentering the internet porn world after two weeks of girlfriend issues.

KMan says: "Here's the deal. Kevin Blatt is full of integrity. I've known him from day one. JoeE. I've had problems with him businesswise in the past with some shady practices. Way back, when he first started. He has now rectified those and I now consider him full of integrity. And I am making more money with his fricking programs.

"Ron Levi. He even admits he is a pothead. I'm guessing that 50% of the high rollers, big six, all do drugs. Nobody cares. Nobody cares if JoeE does a line now and then. I don't know. I've never seen him do it. If he says he didn't, he didn't. Same with Andy Edmond. I've never seen him do it. Don't know and don't care. They're honest. f---ing Bill Clinton smokes weed and gets blowjobs from fat chicks under his desk and he runs our country.

"Jeff Miller is an extortionist. He says that he saw one of his images on my website, three years ago. And he sent me a letter of intent saying to take it down. He said, I'm not going to prosecute you if you buy two of my $2000 CDs. Basically, he's got s--- content and s--- business ethics and no integrity and he extorts people to buy his s--- content.

"Personally, I'd like to bust his f---ing hat rack. The guy's a moron and a flake and I can't believe they even let him own a dot-com domain.

"The Blatt brothers. I've known them since they were completely broke. They'd come over to the house and talk... They've never hurt anybody or f---ed anyone over. Who accused Kevin of using prostitutes?"

Luke: "Jeff Miller."

KMan: "I challenge both Kevin Blatt and Jeff Miller to take a lie detector test. I will pay for it. To see who is lying. Has Jeff Miller never f---ed a prostitute? I doubt it. Jeff Miller's never done drugs? I doubt it.

"Luke F-rd can sit in there and watch it and see that it is an unbiased test. They are full of s---. Why don't they put their balls with their mouth is? Put their integrity on the table. If they've got a problem, I will be more than happy to spring for it to solve their problem. So they can stop acting like a bunch of kids.

"And if my friend Kevin Blatt comes out as a liar, I will have to eat my words.

"I've had people who worked for me go through polygraph tests because I don't trust anybody. After getting f---ed over by Ron Levi and all them, you just can't trust anyone. Now see what they will say.

"Come on. Ninety five percent of people in our business have paid for sex at one point.

"I know Jeff Miller is a flake. Me and Kevin have been friends for a while. Every time I'd see Kevin, I'd say, 'Are you still working for that Sundowner faggot?' And he'd say, yeah. And I'd say, 'Your boss is f---ing fag and I'd like to f---ing bust him in his eye.' And he'd say, 'Man, that's wrong.' Now I find out that Kevin has seen the light.

"I had somebody I didn't know who went to one of Jeff's seminars. This guy gives seminars. What kind of f---ing moron gives seminars? And Jeff was talking smack about me, even used my name and my domain name. 'Oh yeah, a f---ing webmaster, KMan, stole my images and this is what I did...'"

Luke: "Did you hear about the CEN controversy on Netpond ten days ago? It seems that CEN was redirecting traffic to dialers and Karas and Vivid."

KMan: "I saw that myself. I didn't see it on Netpond. But I noticed the other day that the backup console to TrueCelebs.com... I'm making a bonus $5000 every month off that site. I just found out that there is some lawsuit going on with that but s---, as long as I am getting paid. If he [JoeE] goes to jail, he goes to jail. Because I don't know what he's doing is legal or not. I put my faith in them. They've got their own lawyers. I will advertise with them until they're told to take it down.

"But I did notice the exit console was going out to Karas and it had a different account number. I thought about it and said, my sites do the same thing. That's one of the reasons he can pay $35 a signup because the people who don't sign up, he gets an occasional signup to Karas. It's got to equate somehow.

"Some people might not be as nice about that. Some people are stingy about their exit traffic. I don't care, with $35 per signup... If I send him $200 worth of backout traffic a month, if that keeps them afloat, by all means. You've got to weigh the scale. You send your traffic to TrueCelebs.com and they're not backing out anyway. I'm sending them blind TGP traffic, which is s---, to TrueCelebs.com and I'm converting 1/190. That's phenomenal."

Brad Shaw writes on Netpond: "Nothing wrong with GHB, I brew it in 55 gallon drums and consume it with my old college beer bong nightly before going to bed."

Brad writes Luke: "Luke, nice how you took my joking comment about GHB off Netpond and took it our of context. I want to let it be known, the only drugs I do are lobsters. Seriously, I am only of about 4 porners who have never done any form of illegal drug."

Bill writes: "luke with all the pissing, waring, and wasting of money by some big adult net players i don't think they need worry about the government coming after them with porn laws or any kind of witch hunt. they'll do themselves in just fine by their own stupidity."

Kevin Blatt comments: "The smartest words I have heard come from this industry in a long time."

Sky Racer writes: KB = integrity? ROTFLMAO I have never met anyone with less! I have heard him say one thing to his "friends" and then turn and say another thing completely oppostite 20 minutes later to another "friend"!!! I don't know Miller so I cant' say anything about him. All I do know is KB is nobody's friend cept KB and he will slice you and dice you for his own gain. The fool can't even keep a job! KB consulting? consulting on what?? How to be a total failure by age 35? ROTFLMAO!!! You know what they say Luke "Those who cannot do, consult!"

Jeff Miller from Sunup Media writes: Jeff Miller writes: "Hi Luke and Gene: As I stated in my last email to you, we have no further comment about Kevin Blatt. His demeanor and actions speak for themselves. However, again, we feel it important to clarify mis-statements and untruths made by Kevin Blatt about our companies.

1. The letter of intent: The letter of intent required Kevin to work full time. He never did. There was not one week that Kevin worked a full work week. In addition, as I have stated, Kevin was never available to finalize the paperwork. He was required to come to the office in Temecula at least once a week, in 5 months he only came to the office on 4 or 5 occasions.

2. Kevin's claim that he worked for "free": Kevin did not work for free. First, Kevin really didn't work. He stated to us on three occasions that he purposely did nothing for 5 months because he didn't yet have his contract. In addition Kevin was paid a 4 digit weekly salary from day 1 until October 23rd. He was also provided full medical benefits.

3. Joe Elkind: I stand 100% behind my last e-mail. I do not agree with Joe Elkind's business ethics but I have many friends who are friends of his. I have met him on one occasion for 5 minutes. All knowledge I have of Joe Elkind is from Kevin Blatt, as I stated in my last e-mail. The conversation re: truecelebs is exactly as I have stated.

4. Prostitutes: Dennis is not a liar. He is one of the most ethical business people we have ever been associated with. He is one person that can be taken at his word, period.

5. My "litigious" ways: As I stated on your show, we have filed 3 lawsuits to protect the illegal use of our copyrighted images in 5 years. Of the more than 500 people that have used our images illegally, 3 have been sued. The rest have been let off the hook. Mr. Blatt thinks I am litigious yet all he keeps saying is how his lawyer is watching and listening. If Mr. Blatt feels that we have slandered or libeled him in any way, then I strongly encourage Mr. Blatt's attorney to find his way to the courthouse and proceed with legal action against us.

This entire incident began when Kevin e-mailed Dennis the other night THREATENING to make negative public comments about us and our company. His exact quote is: "I would prefer to handle the situation at hand like an adult so I would like to hear how you will make this as comfortable as possible for me. Let me know how the story ends. Me riding off into the sunset whistling, or a quiet storm reflecting negatively upon you?" We will not be extorted by Mr. Kevin Blatt, or anyone else.

Thanks again Luke and Gene. Jeff Miller, SunUp Media Group, Inc.

Kevin Blatt responds: Gene& Luke, How many more times will it be the last comment made by SunUp? Like I said he thinks because he doesn't have to pay anything to have his name put on your websites that it's actually making him more money.

I am reading a book on Power called the "48 Laws of Power" by Robert Greene I am exercising one of the Laws right now by not commenting any further, I 'll only say this......

If Jeff wants to continue his talk of extortion and lies on my behalf ,I challenge him to a Polygraph test at the IA2000 in January. I will have whoever wants to sit in be there to see for themselves that I am 100% telling the truth.

Gene I will prove that Jeff Miller is nothing more than the "Pinocchio of Porn" Where as I am the Geppetto pulling his strings.... Jeff you up for the challenge? Bring Dennis too, I'd love to show my integrity in front of the biggest forum possible, I d love to see both of you guys squirm.

Hurry up and buy those books on how to fool the tests now you have two months to believe your own bulls---. :-)) How about Howard Stern? Oh I forgot he doesn't know you....... 'Nuff Said.