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In her first time out of the United States, Stacy traveled to Mexico in November 1995 for a solo Hustler shoot which appears in 9/96 edition. Stacy also appears in a boy-girl shoot for Rave. "He was really hot," says Stacy. "I had so much fun having sex in front of the camera. I didn't have to have sex for these shoots, but I wanted to. I'm a bad girl. I got into this biz because I love sex. I enjoy what I do and it shows." Born 8/9/70, Valentine did her first video in Mexico in February 1996 for Coast to Coast. She appears in a boy-girl, girl-girl and an orgy scene in Bikini Beach 4. Vince Voyeur did Stacy up the ass for her first scene. "He's good size. But the night before, I went home with Jon Dough. And I couldn't do him in the ass. He was way too big." Jon Dough: "What's she talking about? I f--- her up the ass all the time. You've got to be careful about talking to people in this biz because most of them lie." Stacy got her porn name from her first scene which was performed on Valentine's Day. In the orgy scene on the beach Stacy does Kitty Monroe, Jon Dough, Vince Voyeur, Lana Sands and two other girls. "I loved it. I had a great time. Everyone was so nice. It just felt natural." In March, she did a dp for Director Joey Silvera with Marc Wallice and Tom Byron. Englishman Mark Davis is her favorite stud. To the joy of passersby, she gave him head in the backseat of Tom Payne's BMW 6/12/97 while I drove them down Magnolia Boulevard between shoot locations. Out of Stacy's 60 videos, her favorite is Expose Me Again directed by Michael Zen. She plays a student filmmaker from the mid West who spies on people. Randy West appears in drag. "He was the ugliest chick I've ever seen. I found it difficult not to laugh while he gave it to me up the ass." Miss Valentine is an only child. "My mother would rather I not do porn. But I've just gotten out of a bad marriage (number two) and so it's better for me to be here. So long as I'm happy and well taken care of, she's happy. "I'm a Leo. I'm territorial. I'm identical to a cat. I'm independent but I like to be the center of attention. But I won't compete for attention. "I like things my way. Everything has to be just so. When I find someone I like, I prefer to have the person all to myself. In my personal life, doing a threeway is cool, but if it was ultimately up to me, and I wasn't wanting to please anyone else, I wouldn't do it. Because that's my property and I don't like sharing my property. If I ever get into a relationship again, I won't have messing around. It will be monogamous. "While I'm in this business, I won't have a relationship because I don't see how you can have a serious relationship while having sex with other people." Stacy stands 5'4", weighs 110 pounds and measures 36DD-25-35. She enhanced her breasts in 1994 from a B bra size. "I love 'em [her new breasts], for they give me the confidence to do what I'm doing now," said Valentine in the spring of 1996. "I wanted to keep them natural because when you see ones that are too big, they look silly. I don't want to look silly. Just eye-catching." Valentine moved up to an E cup in 1996, hated the new size, and got a reduction in the Spring of 1997 to a double DD. Stacy had few boyfriends in high school but one male remembers her clearly. "As a native of Tulsa. who was out stomping the same time that she was, I can tell you she was gorgeous in high school. "I didn't go to the same school as her, but remember being in the same circle a couple of times, and she was an angelic-looking blonde -- much prettier than after all the surgery." Stacy: "I've always gotten along better with men because they are less catty. I want to be myself when I hang out with someone and wear my sweats and my hat backwards and eat pizza and watch TV instead of having to act a certain way. Men are more relaxed, friendly and natural. They don't care how you dress. Because I tend to hang out more with men, it makes it even more difficult for me to have female friends because then there's jealousy. "I've always been a loner. I haven't spoken to my father since I was 16. "I was adopted when I was six weeks. My mother loves me very much. I'm her pride and joy. If something happened to me, she'd die. My mother and my cat are most important to me." Stacy says that if her cat and a stranger were both drowning, she'd first save her cat. "My parents divorced when I was eleven and my house burned down when I was twelve. Aside from that, everything was normal. "I always looked at Playboy and Penthouse. I loved to look at women. Naked women have always turned me on. Naked men didn't do much for me. "I've masturbated since age 14. My friend had three brothers who had Hustler and that sort of stuff and so we were always looking at those." Stacy lost her virginity at age 15 to a 21-year old man that she'd dated for six months. "I don't think first-times are what they're cracked up to be. I've had it a lot better since." Her first experience with a woman came at age 22. "It was with a girl with whom I went to high school. I heard she was interested in girls. I saw her at a bar one night and I had enough in me to be bold enough to go up to her and say, "I heard you were into women. And if you are, would you be interested in me?" Luckily, she was. And that was great. So soft. There's nothing like the touch of a woman. They're so soft and tiny and frail. I love that in a woman but not in a man. I like my man to be very manly. I don't like any sensitivity in a man. I want him to take me, and grab my hair and spank me, asphyxiate me and be firm. It's a power thing. I'm so helpless. I like that feeling. Being helpless and having someone taking advantage of me. It's hard for me to act like I don't want something. "Oh no, no, no, don't stop"." In a few years, Stacy want to still have her hand and other body parts in adult entertainment, possibly directing as well as having on-screen sex. "Everything happens for a reason and so I'm coasting right now to see how things fall." Stacy moved into Woodland Hills in May, 1996. When she's not working, she likes to shop for clothes, furniture, books, candles, crystals, incense, essential oils and "spiritual stuff". She also enjoys playing on her computer. "I'm getting ready to go on line. "I'm not an exciting person. I like to read self help books like Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus. I like to learn how people react to things because I'm not a good communicator. I take on more of the characteristics of a man. I like to avoid problems. I don't like to talk about my feelings. I keep my feelings in until I blow. I did that last week. Someone [Johnathan Morgan] disconnected my pager." "I liked Celestine Prophecy. I'm into books on aroma therapy, herbs, gypsy magic and anything weird, mystical and spiritual." Stacy is one of about two dozen porn girls who earn over $1000 per regular sex scene. She makes almost $2000 for an anal. 2/1/99: Joey Markham writes about Monday's Entertainment Tonight cover story on VCA contract girl Stacy Valentine: Bob Goen (intro): Stacy
Valentine is an adult film star. But while she strips down to nothing
in her triple-X movies, a new film about her life strips away the make-up
to discover the very vulnerable, very real person hiding within. Now,
Stacy's incredible story is our Entertainment Tonight cover [Throughout, we see clips of Stacy making public appearances, brief home videos (when she was a baby), clips from her documentary, of her at an ice-skating rink, clips of her in hospital undergoing surgery, with her one-time boyfriend, etc.] Stacy Valentine: I want people to know that there's a real person behind the pornstar image. BG: Her business asks its actors to reveal a lot. But in 'The Girl Next Door', Stacy Valentine reveals a lot about her business. SV: I do wanna be famous. I love the attention. BG: The film follows her path from housewife to pornstar. With the slick and glossy image of Stacy Valentine replaced by the very real picture of Stacy Baker. SV (clip from 'The Girl Next Door'): It's just really weird to look in the mirror and you kinda see a stranger. SV: I'm human. I'm really human. And I think people should know that. BG: She comes from Tulsa, Oklahoma, where she was adopted by a mother who loved her then and still does now. SV's mom (alongside SV's stepfather): I never thought that she would be in this business, but we're still very proud of her. BG: She became a centerfold when her husband sent nude pictures to a men's magazine. The marriage went bad, she went to Hollywood and made her first movie without a second thought. SV: I chose the adult business because it was something I wanted to do. BG: Now, Stacy is skating
into a new world. Her documentary showed at Slamdance, the film festival
taking place alongside Robert Redford's SV: It was very emotional and very dramatic. I felt really sorry for myself at times! (smiles) I thought "Oh, that's so sad!" (We see a clip of Stacy from TGND, talking on the phone and holding an award). BG: Her relationship
with her mother was perhaps the most touching part of the film. At times,
she says she loves her job. At others, she says she's SV (clip from TGND): I'm trying to make myself unrealistic. Most girls in the business, their bodies are unrealistic and I just can't keep up with that. It's really wearing me down. BG: She had her breasts made bigger and then made smaller. She's been through liposuction and had her lips pumped up. SV: I haven't watched the plastic surgery. I can't watch that. I'm through with plastic surgery. That's it. I don't wanna put myself through that. BG: And we see her problems with romance. Relationships seem restricted to others in her field and all that sex makes love difficult. SV: Just because I do adult films doesn't mean that I don't get my feelings hurt and that I don't get my heart broken. BG: She may be a pornstar, but she is 'the girl next door'. SV: I'm still searching. I'm still searching for what I want in life. [End of article] BG (wrapping up): There is some good news for Stacy, though. From her exposure in 'The Girl Next Door' at the Slamdance festival, she has been cast in a mainstream film. Stacy Valentine Dates Mob Boss VCA contract girl Stacy Valentine is dating Genovese family mob boss Joe Dente who is notoriously prone to jealousy and violence. Stacy Valentine was surprised to find out that Luke found out and published Sunday that she's dating Dente. Valentine writes: "Hey he is a friend of mine... That is all... I am not involved in anything he does and dont care too be. A source uhh... well tell that source to mind his own f---ing business." Stacy was spotted at New York's Magginos restaurant in the company of Joe Dente this past weekend. Like the Judy Filanov model discussed below, Stacy Valentine has also experimented extensively with cocaine. XXX writes: Luke it is fairly common knowledge that Stacy Valentine "Plays for Pay." She is about the highest of the high dollar "personal entertainers". Chances are if she was out with Joe Dente she was being paid well to be there. Look back on your own site, you will see that Stacy has been "dating" other very rich and powerful people I quote and summarize now from the 11/21 New York Post article by Daniel Jeffreys: Judy Filanov was one of Heidi Fleiss' call girls. Under the Hollwood madam, she became the top party girl for the rich and famous. Now she tells all about the $tars, the $ex and the $ingle life in Tinseltown A TOP party girl in Hollywood Madam Heidi Fleiss' stable has come forward to expose the dirty truth about Tinseltown: How sex and women are used as pawns in a never-ending battle of oversized egos. In 1989, Judy married Sergei Filanov, who was known to the FBI and Royal Canadian Mounted Police as the leader of "The Russians," a gang that had assumed a dominant position in the Canada-U.S. cocaine trade. Six months later, Sergei was assasinated. Judy's cocaine use accelerated after she stopped seeing Jack Nicholson. Then a dark cloud from her past descended. "I was approached by the Mafia," she said. "[Mob boss] Joe Dente kind of took me under his wing. At first I welcomed his companionship. Compared to everything else it felt safe. Because they were also constantly in danger, I felt I could trust them." She said Dente fell in love with her and began referring to her as "the lady of my house." That dubious honor came with new risks. Dente was jealous of Nicholson and warned Judy to stay away from him. When Judy and Joe were dining out one night, Mickey Rourke greeted her with a flirtatious hello and she had to stop Dente from sending his men over. "Joe said he wanted to rip Mickey's head off," Judy said. "I had to work all my charms just to get him to settle down. Heidi heard about it and had a real problem. She told me my relationship with Joe was going to make it impossible for me to work." That was one of the few times Judy argued with Heidi Fleiss. "Heidi was so arrogant about Joe Dente," said Judy. "She would never admit this but she had a lot of help from various Mafia groups getting to where she was." From the 11/19/95 Las Vegas Review-Journal: Another compelling twist is the fact law enforcement continues to cast a cynical eye on gentlemanly Joe Pesci, who does not shy from his friendship with Genovese crime family soldier Joe Dente. Pesci is famous for his ability to play a mobster, and the police wonder just how much acting he's doing. Dente is a man on the make inside what organized crime experts call the Hollywood mob. From the 11/06/99 Daily Mail, about Judy: "She had also been spending time with Los Angeles gangster Joe Dente, and out of jealousy he did not want Judy associating with the film star." Stacy Valentine writes Luke: "Listen I dont know what your problem is?... First off what I do in my personal life is none of your or anyones business... If I do something within the industry thats fair game but, stay out of my personal life. If your going to put something on the web check with me first. I should have the oppurtunity to know what you are going to put up on the web before you do it. Its not that hard you know where I am. You could check with me anytime just to be professional. I mean this is f---in bulls---. I here about this s--- you wrote from a person in my fan club. You could have told me ahead of time." The 4/14/00 New York Times ran a review of the Stacy Valentine documentary: Here's an excerpt: The Girl Next Door," Christine Fugate's melancholy documentary portrait of the porn star Stacy Valentine, suggests that the intersection of pornography and cosmetic surgery has given birth to a new genre of performer: the porn star as human approximation of an inflatable sex toy. With her platinum hair, fat-injected lips, breast implants and body planed by liposuction, Ms. Valentine doesn't look entirely real. Of course, that's probably the way her fans like it. As Ms. Valentine repeats several times, she has always been dissatisfied with her looks. The film's gruesome scenes of her undergoing procedures to reduce her artificially inflated breasts and to trim her buttocks reveal the cost in discomfort, not to mention dollars, of developing and maintaining a pneumatic appearance. But hey, it's a career investment, isn't it? There is something self-deluded in the eagerness with which Ms. Valentine presents herself to the camera, even allowing it to follow her into the operating room. She is certainly not someone you're likely to find interviewed on Oscar night by Barbara Walters. But her readiness to bare all emotionally as well as physically reveals a streak of grandiosity. Is it really an act of courage in this era of free-for-all confession for her to reveal so much? Or is it simply exhibitionism posing as truth-telling? Chaim Amalek writes: Luke, I recently saw "The Girl Next Door," a documentary about a porn participant named Stacy Valentine. The subject permitted the film crew to follow her everywhere - including to her plastic surgeon's office. All in all, there are three reasons to see this movie. 1. If you have never really seen a modern porno video, this will comfort you by letting you know that you have not been missing anything, assuming what we see is representative of the genre. Or maybe you will rush out to buy some videos. Who knows. (Holy s--- Luke, how can you stomach this? Is it just a matter of desensitizing yourself? And, in all of your visits to the sets of various shoots, have you ever gotten anyone's bodily fluids on your skin or clothes?) 2. You get to see a grown woman, the adoptive mother of said Valentine, express happiness over her daughter's chosen profession. This is a reason to see the movie if you are into creepy cinema. (Query: To what degree are porn participants disproportionately the product of awesomely f---ed up homes? I mean, what mother, biological or not, is happy to see her daughter make a name for herself doing this stuff?) 3. Ok, now THIS is the kicker. You get to see, up close, what certain very common plastic surgeries look like. First, we see the surgeon yank out a one liter sack of goo from each of her breasts via the nipple, and then replace said sack with a somewhat smaller implant. Next, we see fat being liposuctioned from her abdomen, and deposited as a bloody slurry into a large jar. Finally, we get to see her have something injected into her lips to make them look fatter. I will bet damn few of the viewers of porn not in medicine have ever seen even one of these three operations in clinical detail, let alone all of them in one movie. Please forgive me if I have been judgemental in this letter. And I certainly mean no ill will to the woman who is the subject of the movie. But boy, there are lots of less painful and less embarrassing ways to make a buck, no? PS If you could have sex with a porner for free, but it would be captured on video and sold to the masses for onanistic purposes, would you? What is the minimum payment that you would require to have condomless/protected sex with a randomly selected woman in a commercial porn video? Luke: Sex with a porner, captured on video and sold to the masses? Probably $100,000 with a condom, $200,000 without, but there have been plenty of times over the past four years when I would've done it for a lot less. Tells you something about my capacity for self destruction. Yes, I think many porn stars are screwed up. I am not sure that most were abused as kids. I think it is normal for people to do self destructive things, like appear in pornographic videos, take drugs and the like. I have a dim view of human nature. Without God, most people are slovenly. What percentage of porn stars come from awesomely f---ed up homes? My guess would be 50%. How do I stomach writing on porn fulltime? Because it beats the alternatives. It is easier, more enjoyable work, for more money, than the alternatives that I see for myself. And I handle it through a great deal of desensitization. Velo writes: I just returned from the NY "premiere" of STACY VALENTINE'S new movie "The Girl Next Door" which was held right here in NYC at The Screening Room. Once the film concluded, there was a little meet & greet & Q&A session with STACY, the director and one of the producers. My question to her (which the director thought was a good one) was "what does she think or does she have a comment about Luke F-rd: Is he good or bad for the industry or is he just trying to stir up the pot?" She hesitated, studdered and was almost at a loss for words, but you
could see in her expression that a nerve or sour note had been hit because
she finally managed to say that she has or had absolutely nothing good
to say about Luke F-rd.
5/17/00 FilmThreat's Date With Stacy Valentine Here's an excerpt: She told me that she has no interest in pursuing legit acting because she can't take rejection. Her whole time in the porn business, she was on top of her game, and nobody ever told her no. She said she wanted to retire before she becomes one of those girls that people say "why is she still in this business" to behind their backs. She admitted she has trust issues with people and doesn't make friends easily. She said she isn't afraid to hide her past when it comes to meeting people in the future, although she said she has found that most people lose all respect for her when they know her past. She doesn't like it. She says she was never into drugs and the whole porn community is so involved in it that it made it hard to be friends with them outside of work, which is why she moved out of Los Angeles all together. 3/31/01 Telmo writes: Hello Luke, My cousin and I spoke with Stacy Valentine in Toronto. She was touring around AOV videos plugging her last video and signing autographs. She was extremely friendly and cordial..until I mentioned your name. She said your brand of reporting "was like the national enquirer". You must have really pissed her off. Nice girl regardless. Jason Stoner writes: Luke, I saw Stacey Valentine this evening (2001/03/30) at an in-store. The site was an "AOV" (Adults Only Video) on East Hastings Street in Vancouver, Canada. Attached is a picture I took of her. She says she is living in New York (Manhattan) now with her boyfriend and is taking psychology courses at college (I didn't ask which one). I asked her if she had tried any mainstream work. She said she did a little but was not impressed. She says she just wants to be out of the camera's eye, any camera, mainstream or porno. AOV is a national chain in Canada and frequently hosts in-stores. Stacey is on a Canadian farewell tour. AOV is promoting her video Red Vibe Diaries #3 of which they are the exclusive retailers in Canada. I've also seen Missy, Misty Rain, Dyanna Lauren and Shane at AOV in-stores. Stacey was very friendly. There were about 25 or so people in a fairly small store. A handful of couples. Pretty relaxed atmosphere, Stacey was into chatting, autographed polaroids were only 5 loonies each, came with an autographed movie slick and she let me take the digital photo gratis. That was great, she stood up and went right into pose mode. A true professional. 4/19/01 TBFan writes on RAME: On Monday, Stacy Valentine appeared on The Bynon Show. A Canadian talk show, hosted by Arlene Bynon. Stacy was very composed, conservatively dressed and looked more beautiful than I had ever seen her look in her porn days. During the nearly hour-long interview Stacy commented on her decision to leave porn, her breast operation, the documentary "The Girl Next Door", her ex-boyfriend Julian and, of course, sex. All in all, she came off as a real sweetie and seemed to be a very intelligent and well spoken young woman. For you guys who missed the interview, well, since I have a few hours to go before the hockey game starts, I decided to transcribe the interview... Arlene Bynon: Today on our show we have adult film actress Stacy Valentine.
Arlene: Let’s get right into it. How many breast enlargments have you
had? Arlene: How many more can you have? Is there a limit? Arlene: So now you’re on the way down. You’re on the curve. Arlene: Why do you want smaller breasts? How does that co-relate with
the new Stacy Valentine? Arlene: They don’t see it. Arlene: How does it feel...You were so forthcoming in this documentary. It really looked at your life, everything. It was surprising. We went in the operating room. Were you surprised when you sat down and saw your life put together like that? Stacy: It’s very strange to actually watch it. The only way I can describe it is that you are writing in a journal, but, you are actually watching it instead of reading it and it was very therapeutic to do the documentary because obviously your views change as you get older. You get smarter. Of course, at 20, I thought I knew everything and at 25, I thought, “Oh God” I didn’t know anything, but then at 25 I thought I knew everything. Now at 30, now I know everything. But, no actually, I’ve come to know that I don’t know everything. It was really nice to see how passionate I was about the certain views I had. Now it’s four years later and I have different views. It’s hard to actually pin-point those things but there’s a feeling that I’ve changed. I’ve grown. Arlene: So you think the documentary actually did that for you? Arlene: Okay, we’re gonna run a clip from your documentary, “The Girl
Next Door”. (Video clip) Arlene: You also alluded to the people who should get into it, should
get into because they really like sex. Arlene: What about now, though. You were very supportive. You have
changed, in the documentary we can see you change. You were wondering.
You were very forthcoming in it. You were very honest. How do you view
the business now? Is this a sort of farewell tour? Arlene: Are you damaged at all? Arlene: It’s almost impossible. Well, we think it’s impossible but
at certain times you say it isn’t. Arlene: What did that show. I mean when I saw that scene and it was
Julian and you’re supposed to do a scene together but you’re doing...
you’re with another guy first. But you see that, despite everything
that you said and everything that you hear, human beings are human beings.
Arlene: When did you get honest about it? Was it when you were watching
the documentary? Was it seeing yourself? You kind of had to sit on your
own and say, I had it wrong. Arlene: And there’s a freedom to that? Arlene: What kind of courage did it take to invite people into an operating
room with you? Arlene: When you were talking there, when we came in there, about the pressure to make unrealistic things about your body. Is there a pressure within the industry or do the girls put that upon themselves? Stacy: It happens with the reviews that you read. It’s very hard to read in the first caption of the movie you’re in “Well, if you like fat girls, Stacy Valentine is your gal!” Well, I’m just making that up but I’m, there is that pressure from reading things. Fear of reading something negative about yourself, and just gossip. It’s competitive, I mean there is not catfights going on but there is those small jabs. I always had my back to the corner because I was afraid somebody, I was afraid everybody was out to get me. Arlene: You read your reviews because you ended up getting double E’s.
Arlene: There must have been a reason you did it? Arlene: You, how do you put that together with what you do in the movies?
It is hard to watch operations, I had to fast-forward some of your parts
in your breast operation, but how, how come the movies are okay for
you but it is hard for you to watch an operation? Arlene: How do you see yourself having sex in the movies? How do you
view that... differently? Arlene: What did you learn making these movies and having sex? Arlene: Did you learn anything about yourself? Arlene: Now, you got into it because your husband, your husband at
the time, asked you to pose for him. Was it a Hustler shoot? Arlene: How did you feel? Arlene: Okay, let’s take another look at the documentary. (Video Clip)
Arlene: The other stuff. Arlene: But yet, you went along with everyone and had very little trouble.
Arlene: And you put them into two different worlds? Arlene: They do, they do. We got to take a little break and we’ll be
back with former adult film star Stacy Valentine. (Video Clip) Arlene: She is very supportive. Arlene: Do you wish she had talked you out of it? Do you wish she had
said some of the things that you learned? Arlene: You are so proud of this. You are so proud of the documentary.
You say I’m so good at this, that and the other. Are you proud of your
achievements? Arlene: But you worked at things like that. Arlene: Do you view sex differently now, then you used to? I mean many
people put sex and love together. Pornography takes it away. You had
some valid arguments in the documentary about doing it and keeping it
separate. How do you feel about sex and love now? Arlene: Is he in the industry? Arlene: How does he feel that you’re promoting your last movie? Red
Vibe Diaries is it? Arlene: Are you interested in going into mainstream movies. Arlene: What do you think of sex now? Is it different? You personally.
Arlene: What do you do when you go to work and you don’t feel like it? Like, we go to work even though we don’t feel like it. Stacy: I was very fortunate to be able to choose everyone I worked with. Everyone can’t have great days everyday. Some days I wasn’t as enthusiastic but that was when Stacy Valentine would kick in even more. It was incredible, I always had a great time. Well, except for a couple of times when I would get sick and I had a little bit of problems, but you just have to be strong enough to work through that. It was... I could complain and moan about it for an hour but it still had to take place. Arlene: Did you enjoy the sex you were having? Stacy: Some of it, some of it would get mechanical but for the most
part I had a great time. I mean it was... is something I’m sure I will
look back on and think I did fly by the seat of my pants and I did take
those chances and I’m happy with everything that I’ve done. And I got
to meet some very nice people and the fans. Especially the tour through
Canada. I love Canadians, they are so nice and the men are so attractive.
I don’t know if it is the water or what but they are very attractive.
Arlene: What is it about when you look back? I mean you say you’ve
changed since the documentary but you still wouldn’t take it away. On
one hand you say the operations and why did I do this, but on the other,
you’re saying I don’t have any regrets. Arlene: To be a success at it. Arlene: What part of it made you a strong woman? Arlene: We have to go for a break, but do you think you’ve applied
that to something else? Arlene: I do too, we’ll be back with your view of pornography. (Video
Clip) Arlene: How do you view pornography? I mean when you were in the movies
people must have looked at you in a different way. How do you view it?
How did you view it then and how do you view it now? Arlene: Do you watch your movies now? Arlene: Was it erotic on the set. Arlene: How much money did you make doing movies? Arlene; How do you feel about that? Arlene: What if you have children? Arlene: You said in the documentary that there is a shallowness and
a hollowness to it all. And other times when I’ve interviewed other
people from your industry that have left with a similar sense. Some
of them say yes and some of them say no. Where do you fit in? Arlene: But more rewarding then people think? Arlene; ...Cause it’s a family show. Arlene: Then you have a separate goal. Arlene: Have they sold a lot?
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