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11/13/99 Lou Cypher Cries 'Uncle" Lou Cypher writes Luke: "Luke - please make the pain go away. By pain i mean Lynne L-patin. I enjoy perusing your site on a daily basis and find much of its content mildly enjoyable, however, for the Love of God the rantings of Ms. L-patin must stop. All of us can appreciate and understand the human emotions involved regarding the death of loved ones, the rejection of our personal work and the disinterest of objects of our affection. Ms. L-patin chooses to drag each and every one of these situtions like an unfortunate black man from the back of her cyber truck on what seems like an hourly basis via your site. Ms. L-patin - GET OVER YOURSELF!!!!! As we all know, Luke posts verbatim (with the occasional embellishment) transcripts of every communication he has ever had. With that in mind i'm begging you Lynn to show some kind of restraint when it comes to airing your endlessly tiring gripes on l-keford.com, as i find myself fantasizing about poking my eyes out with a sharp stick whenever i see your name attached to a story. I hate to put it this way but i have no choice. STOP. Thank you for the forum Luke. And now back to our regular program... p.s. what ever happened to Alicyn Sterling - what a POA! (piece of ass)" Luke: "Louey, you asked for it and you got it. More hot Lynne L-patin pics, fresh from my hovel this afternoon. And with my gun too. First some pics of Luke from Lynne's Dave Hardman movie. Luke is now available for modeling assignment and for acting too, so long as there isn't too much dialogue. "By the way, has anyone seen Lynne's black movie "Indigo Moods"? Would you care to send me a review?"
11/13/99 Elborba writes: "Luke: You'll have another lawsuit to contend with in addition to the impending Hilton or Holmes suit if you don't cease and desist from publishing additional photos of the green-toothed Lynne L-patin (BDWLCL@worldnet.att.net). The fish-scale facial attributes in addition to her odious mouthful of fungicidal gang-greene is exceedingly hard on the eyes and the psyche. Her incessant ramblings are a flagrant product of an aged, attention hungry trollop and in fact detract from the humour and information that encapsulates the majority of your site. SL-patin either needs to star in a Guatemalan snuff flick and end the collective misery or sell her computer and begin working in a shelter for homeless pets. Most U-Mass graduates have moved onto to more promising futures indeed, the least of which include scrubbing graffiti off the bustling highways of Southern California wearing an orange safety vest in a convict chain-gang early weekend mornings!" Here's a transcript of my interview for Lynne's movie "Dave Hardman: A Day in the Life of a Working Stiff." Slammy: "How does the industry perceive Dave Hardman?" Luke: "The industry does not respect itself. It disses itself a lot and Dave Hardman embodies what people expect of a porno stud. He smokes a lot of marijuana, he can get it up and off easily and he's not particular about who he does. He'll do 300 pound women. What was the question again?" Slammy: "How would you rate Dave Hardman among the other studs?" Luke: "There are the A grade actors like Mark Davis, Tom Byron, Peter North, Alec Metro... Dave Hardman is a B grade porn actor. Like Rick Masters, guys who will work for $200 a scene. Dave is reliable. The guys don't matter much in this business anyway. They're just there to pound the women and bring out different emotions and feelings and positions from the women. The men are just meat puppets. The quintessential example is Ron Jeremy who's fat, unattractive and hairy. But there's a freak appeal in pairing unattractive men with attractive women. "Porno is all about degradation. And when you pair a Dave Hardman or a Ron Jeremy with a good looking chick, the stroker at home can see that he's just as attractive as Dave or Ron. And it is a perverse form of excitement to see a good looking woman sucking on the schlong of some schlub." Slammy: "Do you have a favorite Dave Hardman story?" Luke: "I made one porn video, What Women Want, in January of 1996. It was the first time I had seen people have sex. I got my talent from Regan Senter. We chose Kimberly Kummings as the pin cushion in the gangbang video and Kimberly got to choose all the male talent - Dick Nasty, Dave Hardman, Rick Masters, Tommy Gunn... Dave and Rick were laughing at me the whole time because I did not know what I was doing. They were also giving me tips on how to shoot a porno. "I was interviewing everybody after the shoot, on camera, and Dave Hardman was jerking off. He wanted to spooge again on Kimberly. She freaked out. The man was a sex machine. He popped into a cup." Slammy: "What is the basis of Dave's appeal?" Luke: "To directors, that he can do the job relatively cheaply, reliably and consistently. Porn is lowbrow hardon fuel with almost no redeeming value. People aren't going to the video store going, 'What is Dave Hardman's latest video? I have to see this guy because he's such a great actor. Just the range of emotions. His appeal is that he has a dick and can get it up on camera and not many guys can. Dave's not going to be competing with Dustin Hoffman." Q: "Dave's deathwish?" Luke: "Most people in this business are self-destructive. This business attracts people with backgrounds in drug dealing, organized crime, prostitution... People who've been abused as kids... People who can't handle the real world... This business is the road to hell and in porno you may get a lot of orgasms as you walk along to hell. So Dave's deathwish is par for the course in porno. This is a destructive industry. This is something that will haunt him the rest of his life if he tries to enter middle America. He'll always be regarded by many people as a figure of derision. If you take your life seriously, and you're ambitious, and you have people who care about you, and community, then stay the hell away from porno." Q: "Dave's perception of porn?" Luke: "That's the one thing I do like about porno. People are pretty honest. Most of them don't pretend that they are crafting "Titanic," or that they have any great social or political agenda, and they're here to make a buck, and they don't really give a f---. Dave is like that. He despises porno as much as Jerry Fallwell. And what's not to despise? This business attracts neurotic types, myself included. Q: "Dave says he tires of the business but fights against his best interests?" "Dave has done so much weed that he may not be fully there upstairs. He's a nice amiable guy but he's a dope smoker. He's a sex addict, an animal. He's not going to be running General Motors or make it in corporate American. He's a hippie, a throwback to the 1960s. "His own best interests? He only has a vague idea of what they are. As the cliche goes, 'if you fail to plan, you plan to fail.' I don't think Dave has detailed one year, three year, five year goal outlines for his life." Q: "Evaluate the risks to Dave from this business." [Producer Lynne was primarily thinking about health risks but Luke took the question in a different direction.] Luke: "I'm not sure how much of a risk there as he has pretty much F-'d up his life by working in front of the porn camera. He's done it for years... There is always the chance for personal redemption and resurrection. There's always the chance that any one of could turn our lives around and become productive members of society. And every month he stays in this business, his chances of getting out of it diminish because this business is like 'The Hotel California.' You can check out, but you can never leave. "Dave says that he's found he can't have a serious relationship outside of the industry. Of course. People in the straight world don't take people in the porn world seriously. It's a source of derision and contempt if not outright hatred. "Dave says: 'If you find someone special, they will eventually get jealous.' Funny that. 'Honey, I'm going to work now. I've gotta bang three girls today.' Very few women can handle that, nor should they. A relationship should have some element of the sacred and porno is the antithesis of the holy." Slammy: "Alex Sanders refers to the Spice Curse. No matter what happens, you'll always be on Spice. I went out with Alex one time to a strip club. And everywhere he goes, people recognize him. He tries to get a [straight] girlfriend and they always go, ewwwwwwwwww." Q: "Your favorite Dave Hardman scenes?" Luke: "I don't have any. I don't think most people do. You don't think about the guys. It's all a blur. I have very few favorite porno scenes anyway and I certainly don't evaluate them by Dave Hardman. I'm not there jerking off and saying, 'oh there's Dave. What a convincing performance.' "Dave's future? I hope that he will get married, get another job. Perhaps work construction. Maybe he'll just make porno for the next 20 years. Work in a storeroom and move tapes around and get them ready for the next order." A siren blares in the background. Luke: "That may be Dave's future right now." Next, Slammy interviews Cumisha Amado. Cumisha: "Some of this stuff is going on cable?" Slammy: "She thinks it will go to Comedy Central." Cumisha, as she cleans a huge two-headed dildo: "Can they show..." Slammy: "No. I don't think you can reach into your underwear on cable. I think you can fart." Cut. Cumisha lies on her bed. Slammy: "You can look in the camera, you can look towards me. You can do what you want. You can play with yourself." Cumisha grins and starts masturbating. Cumisha: "The first time I worked with Dave Hardman was six or seven years ago. It was a DP with Rick Masters. "Dave and I have hung out at parties with Rich. At Rick's sister's place. And we all joined in a major orgy. Dave loves asian girls. And Dave got to lick a lot of asian pussies at the pool. And he got his dick sucked. One sitting on his face and another one licking his balls. "One time, before a movie was shot, he asked me, 'do you want to see something crazy I can do with my dick? And he wrapped it around this pole. And he twisted it all around. The pole belonged to Rick Masters. "When Dave's afraid he's about to come, he slaps his dick around and pounds it on the table. He loves to f--- hard. "Have you ever heard him tell his jokes? Dave is really funny." Slammy: "Dave and Rick are like the Laurel and Hardy of porno." Cumisha: "Yeah, they're like the Three Stooges except there is only two of them. They do a lot of slapdick comedy." Luke: "I think Rick Masters has been retired from porno for a year. Eversince he married Charlese L'Amour. I think they're now divorced." Cumisha: "My favorite position is doggie and 69." Next Dave Hardman is interviewed. Dave says he's done five scenes in one day. Lynne: "Most men can pound away for two minutes, ejaculate and leave the woman feeling like she's been assaulted. David, what's your secret? How can you pound for two hours and let the woman walk away?" Dave: "Some of them don't." Q: "What's the best piece of ass you've had in your whole life?" Dave: "Lynne L-patin." Lynne: "Use my other name. This movie is going out under "Diana Roth." We don't want Lynne L-patin and Dave Hardman associated much longer." Q: "What's the best piece of ass you've had?" Dave: "Dianna Roth... Second best... The 18-year olds are the best. After that, they deteriorate. Fresh meat. A lot of them know what they're doing. Some of them have been f---ing me under the table lately. "French women have the best feeling pussies. They know how to take care of themselves. Their pussies are like silk. "I've won for most outrageous sex scene the last two years in a row. I do the most dangerous job. We're like Indy racers. They crash and burn and so do we. You f--- a girl who has AIDS, you crash and burn. It's the price you have to pay, like athletes..." Next Lynne interviews Darcy, David's older sister (eight years). Darcy: "I've been in the adult business for 12 years on and off. David started about five years ago. He asked for a phone number and I gave him a phone number. "I hired a stripper for him on his 27th birthday and he loved it. He's a very handsome man. I know the genetic pool. Dave and I did a scene in "The Bald, The Fat & The Ugly" where we shaved a girl's head." Lynne: "You didn't get to see him much in high school and beginnings of his sexuality?" Darcy: "A little bit... He had long brown hair... "By the way, after this shoot, I'm getting naked. I was a stripper long ago before I was an actress. "Periodically, when my type of full figure woman was selected... It is very ironic that no matter whether you are doing an adult film or a legitimate film or commercial, full figured women are always considered for the frumpy or derogatory role. I think that's wrong. Our society is made up of all types of people and races and I don't think there should be any discrimination against body size. "Bald men are beautiful. Any man with hair on his head is overdressed..." Dave has two other brothers. Lynne: "I would like to know all the details of his sex life that you could share with us?" Darcy: "I do know one movie where I was in a different scene, long after me, and I watched him. His prowess was definitely there. Definitely obvious. I've watched a few of his scenes. I think watching sex is good, even if it is your brother. "I'm not like anybody else. I don't think sex is dirty or wrong. I like my tits, don't you? "I do have one beef with my little brother. I just think he needs to grow up and become abstinent from certain substances on the planet." Lynne writes Luke: I love it when Kendra Jade is right: All they want to do is to complain about appearance. Men. What is appearance compared to immaculate spelling, especially in an Internet relationship? Sorry about letting you go into a sacred holy day with that image aboard. The warmth without demand felt good. The blood was scary. It took me awhile to figure out what it was. Sorry. My body couldn't help it. My brain wanted to respond to the well-rounded comment questioning why I would pose with a gun. A responsibility toward Luke to teach him what little I know about gun handling? To demonstrate "not afraid" to Luke? Luke started it! When Luke is excited enough about something as to override his own personal space, I should discourage it? It doesn't hurt, except for people questioning Luke's taste. My new book is called "By Reason of Insanity," by John Balt. He was a Hollywood screenwriter who stabbed his wife to death while in a psychotic haze and recovered to write about it. Early sixties, pub. in 1966. Chicks & Guns. What about Bad Boys with Guns? Bad Men with Hot Rods and Fast Women. 5/14/00
Ben writes: Hi Luke Buddy, All these middle aged horny women like Lynne,think all guys are "EASY" Luke,you played it just right.Does Lynne think,?, after driving all day and into the night,A guy feels like sex? Im glad you left her sitting in her PUDDLE,at the bar. Talk business? I don't think so,not at that time of night.Luke all she wanted was your BODY, You make this jewish guy proud Luke, (later Baby! Nice). Im looking for a video of Lynne (Diana Roth)having sex,she can talk the talk,but can she walk the walk? E bay its GONE! Im sure Chaim Amalek beat me to it. Luke,it may have have not been one of the better videos Lynne has been in. Chaim's heat is still beating I see. Lynne writes: Driving all day and into the night? >From L.A. to Sacramento? Ben, we're talking about 2 p.m., not a.m., and I wanted lunch! Does the expression, "Let's do lunch" really mean "I want to blow you?" Luke, your Kosher salami would have looked good on rye with mustard at that point! I remember when the debate was, "If a guy buys me dinner, why does he expect me to screw him?" We women solved that problem nicely -- we went out, got jobs, and offered to pay our own way. "No" really does mean "no," and "lunch" means "lunch," and I don't rape confused journalists for dessert. Thanks, guys, for tracking down the movies for me. I didn't want to set up an e-Bay account just to LOOK at myself. For those of you who like the back stories from behind the scenes (and I was 42 when the scene for Mature Women #23 was shot), the photographer put me and the male performer in the car and drove us around in Topanga Canyon for an hour looking for a place to stop and shoot. My partner, Mark Wood, was young and inexperienced in the ways of porn. He got hard right away, but after an hour of meandering driving and cocksucking we were both bored and disinterested. We were returned to the house and with my husband's help (he talked us both through the rest of it) managed to have very uncomfortable sex involving cars, concrete and condoms. Nice young man, but grueling work for both of us. Makes one appreciate boring vanilla sex in a soft, comfortable bed! I did four scenes for these producers after Bruce lost his job at Heatwave. They are into the "instant anal" school of filmmaking. You know, put a little lube on the asshole and dive right in. Not conducive to pleasure. Out of the four, the best would probably be the one with Rod Fontana, if only because, as a professional, he kept the sex rolling. I think the scene I did for Totally Tasteless Video for the Bogus Brothers should be better. I remember that as being a lot more fun, and very orgasmic, and non-anal. Angela de'Angelo, formerly Sukoya, also in Mature Women #23, has always been one of my porn heroines for the way she conducted her gang bangs (talk about pushy women who AREN'T Jewish!) I put her in a scene with Dave Hardman for "Working Stiff," scheduled for release May 31st through Zane Entertainment, which features a pale, chubby-faced Luke F-rd making dire pronouncements about the future of porn performers in general and Dave Hardman in particular. Luke-aphiles will be able to get it direct from Zane in a few weeks. Luke is looking much better now than he did last September, tanned and lean, and I look better, too, than I did two years ago. I've lost weight and firmed up quite a bit. More tattoos, though. I'm going to be the best looking lampshade at Auschwitz when it comes time to shoot Holocaust, the Second Armageddon. As to the Depends joke...not funny. No, not at all. You guys can do much, much better. Respect For The Ederly Porn Style Amused writes: Here's the update on the Ebay auction of Lynne Lopatain's porn DVDs. 10 sets of Mature Kink Vol. 1 and 2 were available at auction. 3 sick, twisted, lonely, depraved souls bid and won at $30, $30, and $29. Anyway I wanted to share the copy on the back of the box of Mature Kink 2 it is pure comic genius: "Ever wonder if your grandma gets f---ed in the ass and then gets down on her hands and knees to beg for more? Well, the answer is yes because we have no problem finding older women who are true porn pigs. Fresh from the old folks home to your VCR, these mature women get f---ed in every way possible. It's truly disgusting to watch, but I bet you won't be able to take your eyes off of it." Right below it is a photo of Lynne sucking a fat pink cock corn on the cob style. BTW I've got a joke for you. Q: What does Lynne Lopatain's pussy taste like? Give up? A: Depends! Luke: Amused, I'm glad that you find it funny to perpetuate sexist agist stereotypes. But when I deal with people, I see past appearance to the heart. I drop prejudice and embrace people on the basis of their character and soul. I have a dream that one day white children and black children and middle aged white women will play together... Pat Riley: Listen, old biddies are not erotic. Mrs. Robinson was not erotic. The scenario in The Graduate was terrifying rather than erotic and I saw the movie when it first came out so I'm not saying that with 20/20 hindsight and a jaded view caused by viewing thousands of pornos. Of course if you want to screw your mother... Lynne: Pat "Pedophile" Riley actually makes a good point. Mrs. Robinson was NOT erotic, and the scenario in "The Graduate" was indeed terrifying. Any unwanted advance is scary, whether it's from an older woman or a gorgeous but obsessed stalker. Fortunately most older men see older women as peers, not "biddies," and take advantage of good sex when and where they find it, rather than jacking off and dreaming of the teenager girls they didn't have back when and WILL NEVER HAVE AGAIN! Diana Roth Stars in Mature Women # 23 Here's the ad copy: Savannah, Angela D'Angelo, Sarah and Diana Roth spread their graying twats for hard cock. Anal friction. Great blowjobs. Nonstop f---ing. Deep close-ups. Older women make the best sperm dumps. This video is the proof! A sizzling quartet of overripe tomatoes fills the screen for a shameless lesson in f---ing. Angela D'Angelo, Diana Roth, Sarah and Savannah are hot little prickteasers who lost their morals years ago. Now they're living cumbags and the viewer is the winner. See them get what they deserve in superclose-up, rock hard action. The only thing these cunts are good for is taking a burning load on their f---ing faces! They get bold when they get old. Savannah is a thick bodied blonde with big, natural jugs and a still pretty face. She looks like that lonely housewife you saw last week fondling the bananas at the supermarket. The gardener shows up with a leafblower strapped to his back but he's the one who gets a sloppy blowjob. In the house, he f---s the s--- out of Savannah in every position until her shoots cum on her hangers. The raunch-o-rama continues with Angela, who must have passed out drunk in a tattoo parlor one night. A great looking Italian-American in her early 30s, she's a true backalley hellcat in bed, sucking and f---ing in an award winning performance until her navel is covered in stale jizz. Sarah is a black woman in her 40s with enough meat on her bones for two men. Her black lover nearly rips her fat ass apart with his long pole but he saves his load for her chunky face. Diana Roth will never see 45 again but she'll be seeing hard cocks until her uterus falls out. She blows a guy in a car, then her cunt finishes him off in the garage. Magnificent filth with the horniest mature women desperate for cum. Nice Jewish Girl writes: Luke you said: "You push too much, with david and with me and probably with others. Pull >yourself together and don't ask more of people then they are ready for... " Luke, why do you like Jewish women then?? If you don't like pushy women, why like jewish women? This is exactly why you will never be a real jewish male, that and, well all the racist/nazi stuff. Really Luke, you should really reconsider your fetish towards us Jewish women. We are pushy, we are demanding, we are needy. All of us. No matter what we look like. Some more attractive, some less, but it's all push push push to men. So, if you don't like it, don't pretend, don't lie and say you like us. Because you don't really. And Rumdar, puleeeeze!!! I am not premenopausal, what a sexist idiotic thing to say! Actually I think I'm premenstrual today. And Rum, where is Your Pic??? You've seen mine...and how old are you? You sound like you have an Asian fetish thing going. I remember you said you were in Bangkok, were you with underage girls there?? Girls sold into sex slavery btw for a can of peas. Hope you feel good about yourself. Whenever you talk about some chick/s of yours, they sound like you have to pay for them. And Rumdar, please take the above with a grain of salt, I'm just having fun with you...I do like you and Fred.....just remember I'm dangerous when I'm pre-menstrual. Love, Nice Jewish Girlie with An Attitude! Amused writes Luke: Please confirm if, like most B grade porn starlets, Diana "Lynne Lopatain" Roth will be appearing at the Moonlight Bunny Ranch anytime soon. I am eager to test the ad copy of Mature Women # 23 that promises: "Older women make the best sperm dumps." Thanks. ps Chaim, if it's a go do you want to car pool? Lynne replies: Amused, I thought that ad copy was so perfectly misogynistic that I quoted it in my term paper. But you forget, I am sworn to celibacy for the next eight years, while I wait for Luke's psychotherapy to kick in. It would be terribly unfair and completely unethical of me to take advantage of his emotional disabilities and have a good time without him. Lawrence might check to see if Toby Dammit is still up and running at http://www.smutzine.com. He will have all the info needed on the Chemical People. I knew Jack Baker toward the end of his life. A sweet man who took all the wrong drugs. Lynne's Reflections on the FSC's Lobbying Days Lynne L-patin writes: was not the lobbying day, as you mistakenly posted. It was the workshop day. ] As you and I discussed Sunday evening, I went ahead and changed my departure time to give myself Monday afternoon in Sacramento in hopes of connecting with you. Your knee jerk attempt at putting me off again ("I'll call you at the room at noon") wouldn't have worked -- I had to check out of the hotel by then, as I told you. I'd spoken with Kat Sunlove, whom I'd never met, by telephone before the event, saying that I was a student doing a term paper on porn and asking if I could attend to pick up some information for my paper, correctly assuming that she does not read l-keford.com and did not know who I am. Sunday evening after the public event concluded, I went up to the podium to say hello to Bobby Lilly. She recognized me and was surprised to see me. She wanted me to come to the dinner with her, because she didn't know if I was registered for the conference or not, but she knew from the days when I was involved in the AVA that I've always been a willing participant in industry activism and that I know my stuff, and that my input, if not always "party line," is thoughtful at the very least. I said no (I really wanted to find out what had happened to you), and that I would catch up to her in the morning. In the morning, I went to the meeting room to see what, if anything, I could bring to or learn from the rest of their program. Finally met Annie Sprinkle as I found her looking for the room, led her there and introduced myself. We discussed me sending her some movies to review. I attempted to find out from the early arrivals what the schedule was for the day, so I could plan to see you as we'd discussed, as well as my old friend who lives in Sacramento. When Kat came in, I introduced myself and explained that I was not just an anonymous student, that I was, well, me, and wanted to find out what was going on. And she said, "You can't be here. This is private. Registered participants only." I further explained that I basically knew everyone in the room, that they knew me, that my FSC membership was in order, and that I wanted to register or whatever for anything I could, since I hadn't learned about the event until I read about it on l-keford.com on Thursday and that simply being there was a spur of the moment thing for me, but that I would like to participate. By this time Bobby Lilly had arrived, and attempted to join the conversation. "No, absolutely not," said Kat. I had to leave. Okay, fine, I replied. "Did you get what you needed for your paper?" I guess so, I said (although I hadn't at all....) What time do you break? And at this point Kat got rude. "Why do you want to know?" Thinking quickly, I said that I had brought some tapes to give to people. "This is not a place to do that. That should be done privately." Yes, I arranged to do that privately, but what time do you break so I can meet up with people and give them the tapes I promised? "We don't break." You don't break? No bathroom breaks? No lunch break? At this point Kat invades my personal space, and she's bigger than I am, so she's trying to intimidate me. Bobby is at her elbow, trying to be reasonable, but can't get a word in edgewise. "Why are you so tense?" Kat asks in a smarmy voice. I'm not tense, I'm just trying to find out when you have a break, and you aren't answering me." This goes round again. "Why are you so tense?" Because I've just spent twenty minutes trying to get a straight answer out of you and you won't give me one. Finally she breaks down and tells me when they expect to break for lunch, but, of course, I don't really care. Still, I thank her and tell her I'll be back at that time. Instead, I go to the restaurant for breakfast, see Mark Kernes (who refuses to acknowledge my presence though he was perfectly reasonable Sunday evening,) check out and spend two hours sitting in the lobby reading "Beauty in History" (which I really wanted to show you) and start leaving you messages....again. Eventually my friend shows up and takes me to lunch and that's the end of it. I can only assume that between Sunday evening and Monday morning, I've been identified as Luke's buddy and therefore as the enemy. Which, as I said to you previously, is ironic, because you were treating me the same way. As LT, Farrell Timlake, and Amused (just to mention a few) point out, if the "official" spokespeople presented both sides of the issue, l-keford.com would be nothing more than an occasionally interesting source for porn gossip. This same small group of people have patted themselves on the back for ten years and accomplished nothing except the elimination of dissenting voices within the industry. My sociology textbook is proof of it. Let's turn to the Miller test for obscenity for a moment. In order for something to be found obscene, and therefore not protected by the First Amendment, the material must meet the following criteria: "The average person, applying contemporary community standards, would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest. The work depicts or describes in a patently offensive way, as measured by contemporary community standards, sexual conduct specifically defined by the applicable law. A reasonable person would find that the work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political, and scientific value." The key word in this definition is "prurient." "Prurient" does NOT mean an interest in sex. It means specifically "an unhealthy interest in sex." Normal people SHOULD be interested in sex. It's part of life, a biological drive. The use of contemporary community standards allow for sociological change, so that various sexual behaviors can be seen as healthy or unhealthy given the time and place in which they are under discussion. In a culture where women are expected to have no interest in sex, a video showing a woman initiating a sex act would be prurient. When homosexuality is considered a mental aberration rather than a tolerated sexual variance, homosexuality is prurient. Separation of church and state excludes religious definitions of healthy or unhealthy sex, so we turn to the secular for our definitions, and even though sex which focuses on degradation or humiliation is most probably prurient, those feminists who claim all heterosexuality is degradation are themselves prurient, because contemporary community standards are in disagreement. To me, at least, the question of obscenity vs. protected sexually explicit material is quite clear. Before one can define a prurient interest, one must have a healthy interest. No interest at all is no more healthy than the desire to see women hurt is healthy. If one really thinks Chaim Amalek's "joke" (Q: How do you make a woman have an orgasm? A: Who cares?) is funny, one's sexuality is prurient. Sexuality which excludes pleasure on behalf of one of the participants is not healthy, whether it's a personal act or a societal doctrine. Let's present a few more examples: Having anal sex until your anus prolapses is prurient. Calling a prolapsed anus a "colon rose" is prurient.. Advocating that condoms NOT be used is prurient. Sucking cum from someone's anus through a straw is probably simply stupid. A gang bang where the woman is in control is only prurient if it is assumed that mentally healthy women couldn't possibly want more than one partner, which is an incorrect assumption. A gang bang where the woman is drugged to the point of non-participation is prurient. Contemporary community standards allow for women to make sexual choices, enjoy their sexuality, expect pleasure and explore new pathways of sexual delight. And I am thrilled that this has come to pass. The First Amendment gives me the right to strip naked, enjoy myself and make a political statement, all at the same time. The next question is: Why do AVN and the FSC promote material which I could pull off the shelves and have prosecuted for obscenity? And the question after that is: Why don't people in communities everywhere go into adult video stores, pull the prurient material off the shelves, and prosecute it? Why do we, in the adult industry, want to make it an "all or nothing" issue? Either all of it is protected, or we lose our right to sexually free speech? This is simply not a valid argument! Anyway, opinions like these are I'm excluded from so-called adult industry "free speech" discussions, and why Luke F-rd is demonized for maintaining a platform where opposing views on pornography can be presented, uncensored. Really free speech. For NJG, and anyone else who wonders why I put up with Luke F-rd's strange and ambivalent behavior toward me on a personal level, it's because ultimately any personal relationship Luke and I may have is secondary to our mutual interest in the issues raised by pornography, and in facilitating free and open discussion on the subject. He can keep up with me intellectually, even though he's emotionally retarded like the vast majority of his gender, and he gets my jokes. I would love him dearly for these things alone, even if he were fat and sloppy and had bad acne scars. And he knows it. And he likes it. And I find that very satisfying. I'm sitting here with my friend, Natasha, discussing daughters lost to the court system. She wanted to see how e-mail worked, because her daughter has tried to contact her through e-mail and relatives. In this case, unlike mine, the daughter wants to contact the mom but cannot because her home situation won't allow it. So we're brainstorming about what's best to do, and I'm showing her how e-mail works. Anyway, Natasha and I were talking about her having been in a bar last night with her boyfriend, and that he was treating her like one of the guys, and not a date or a girlfriend, and that it bothered her. And it occurred to me that your avoidance of the situation entirely might have some similar motivations. Because it's a progression, right? Buy a girl a vegetarian burrito and the next thing you know, she's chained you to the bed and wants signatory powers on your MasterCard. Luke: "Hey, you've been a huge feature, probably the biggest character on my site for months... Yes, because the part of you that loves me, REALLY loves me. For being intelligent, articulate, knowledgeable, ethical and interested in porn. For caring about you. For playing along with your need to live your life in every detail in the public spotlight. It's all very attractive to you. It's your way of paying attention to me, in the way that means most to you here and now -- involving me in your life on a daily basis in your work. Luke: "Gotta run with the one who brung ya!" This is a dating reference, isn't it? If a boy takes a girl to a dance, she should leave with him? I'm very slow with dating references, because I've not dated. Here's another thought: If we were in public together, and you have mixed feelings about the "relationship," which you do, how would you interact with THEM? Take Sacramento, at the conference. How would we be perceived? As a couple? As friends? As two media professionals? Would people be talking with you and ignoring me, or vice versa, or talking to us as if we were one unit, and how would that feel? Would I expect certain behaviors of you? Or you of me? Easier to come alone and leave alone than compromise with anyone. 5/16/00 Thoughts on Books and Love and Luke Lynne L-patin (BDWLCL@worldnet.att.net) writes: Good Morning: I know I'm scary. I read it on l-keford.com. Everything on l-keford.com is true. After I get through the term, we can work on the book(s). Do the one on the performers first. Evolve criteria for selection. As many as possible? Or more in depth on selected individuals? Or based on their "importance" in the scheme of things. Decide on an order, i.e., alpha, chronological, cup size. Include Asians, blacks. Save some room for "new girls." However the information is most useful. Decide on how much information on each "chick." (Obviously varying a bit, depending on importance). Videography? How much stuff do we need to make a good presentation? Then I start somewhere and keep on editing until we have enough. It should go extremely quickly. You figure out how much in total and find a publisher, preferably one which will use lots of photographs. Why write about beautiful women without photographs? We practice "arguing" via e-mail until you are comfortable with it. You do not like arguing. And I'll fight for hours over a word. Not for the above, obviously, but in dialog or anything meaningful. There shouldn't be too much arguing here -- just a little over who is included and perhaps over the introduction. I'll take them one by one off the site and clean up the material you already have, format it into paragraphs, while you dig up info you don't have. My reasoning is that this is the material that is expected on porn, and would be easier to pitch. Less political. Easier for us to do. Learn to work together in a serious way. The other one (filmmakers) is highly political, needs to be more academic in tone, with real intro and forward quoting "real books" on porn. Research. More in depth. Analysis of work. Re-interviews. Watching videos. Definitely some arguing. By the end of this, you and I have to be able to get along on an airplane ride, so that we can go to book shows or conferences. The first book is a guy thing, but the second requires my gender to validate the subject matter ie that these women are important because they're doing something different than what men do which validates pornography as a valuable cultural medium and not just an exploitation and objectification of women. NJG is so sweet. I would marry her in an instant. There are so many wonderful women, and so few admirable men. I don't get it -- it's like half the species is intent on making the world a good place to live in, and the other half wants to take us back to the dark ages by eliminating the good half. She provokes me into an examination of my feelings for you. Dear NJG: Here is a little romance story for you. It's okay if you think I'm nuts. Most people do. And I've been accused of lots worse things than being in love with Luke F-rd. I did not fall in love with Luke F-rd at first sight. He was wandering around my set in April, 1998, when my late husband, Bruce, and I were shooting a movie at Rob Spallone's Star World studio (where Bruce had worked for six years as sales manager for Gourmet Video). Luke was in his "yarmulke phase," and I'd never seen a Jew wearing religious headcovering at a porn shoot before. My curiosity was piqued. I asked who he was, and was given his name, and it meant nothing to me except that I'd seen the name in Adult Video News a few times. But I wasn't online at the time, and had far more important things to think about than pretty boys who were obviously odd. Besides, I was happily married and working hard with my husband to establish a production company and battle his prostate cancer. The next time I heard of Luke was through the L.A. alternative weekly New Times, when they did a cover story on Luke and HIV within the industry. His attitude, intelligence and especially his ostracism from the porn industry interested me, as I had been previously ostracized by the same group of people who felt that only they should have opinions and denied the rest of us any right to free speech, or dissent. I was sitting in VCA offices turning in paperwork on the movie I shot for Russ, when Stephanie Ross excused herself to go online and check out something posted at l-keford.com. I asked her to tell me about Luke F-rd, and she said that he was a troublemaker who posted misinformation about the porn business on the Internet, for all to read, violating our unwritten policies about giving out information on the business to the general public. A real pest who needed extermination. Someone I could sink my teeth into, and f--- around with (not in the physical sense) and maybe make a little trouble for him and do some good. I do love a good fight. So when I finally bought a new computer with internet access, I sought out Luke. And I realized that, rather than being a troublemaker, he was making public all the bulls--- and pomposity of the porn industry that Bruce and I had spent years discussing in private. So I baited him -- wrote him a short note giving him a glimpse of our status as industry veterans and suggesting we might have information to share. Two weeks later, Bruce had a stroke. He lost his memory, language skills and many simple things, like lighting a pipe or using a fork. It was really devastating, but I went ahead and set up an interview with Luke, hoping to recover some of the wonderful information that Bruce had been privy to over the years. Instead, Luke ended up writing about me. It was very flattering after all the years of having my experience discounted. Luke was actually impressed when I hauled out my store of seventies porn and showed him some of the reader-participatory work I'd cut my teeth on, and which has always influenced my approach toward pornography. And, like any other pretty thing I see, I coveted Luke. He appealed to me aesthetically as well as intellectually, but he made it clear that he was unapproachable. Meanwhile, I was having problems with Adult Video News. They had printed a review of a gay DVD, called it one of the best movies of the year, and neglected to include the name of the director, who happened to be my husband. They'd also printed a review of the movie that Bruce and I had hoped would lead to more production work, so that I would have a career after his death. Just a little black couples' video, non-exploitative and romantic, and very different than the usual black video. We thought it was important -- AVN dismissed it with a one-line description. When AVN did the same to my VCA movie, I went to war with AVN. At the time, Luke was also at war with AVN. He posted my rants. AVN got pissed, and threatened to sue Luke over his hypotheses as to how reviews were generated. I went on to bury my husband and, on return, made news of my own when David Hardman refused to cooperate in finishing the movie we'd started before Bruce died and had me arrested rather than answer the door. For the next three months, as I dealt with the repercussions of David's actions and edited the movie, Luke stood by me. I needed extra footage to replace what I would have shot on Dave, and Luke let me to send over a film crew to interview him for the video. We were in constant e-mail and telephone contact, as I sorted through my feelings about the industry, the movie and my future. Luke was loving, supportive and there for me, whenever I e-mailed, whenever I called. I gave him copy when I interacted with the porn industry. We played with his gun. I introduced him to my dog. As soon as I completed the community service I'd been assigned over the arrest, I went to visit my family out of state to explore the possiblity of moving from Los Angeles, and leaving the porn business. I knew I would be off-line for the three weeks I planned to be gone, and wouldn't be in contact with Luke until we met up in Las Vegas for CES. So I had to think about my feelings. That's when I realized that, based on our interaction for the past nine months, that he had become very special to me. And that I did indeed love him. That it wasn't just a physical infatuation, for we'd had no physical contact. But that the respect he'd shown me, my work, my profession was something I'd never gotten elsewhere. I felt truly appreciated, as I had in my marriage. And I loved Luke for it. And I told him. And he was okay with it. More than okay. At CES I was surrounded by tens of thousands of men, and didn't actually see any of them. They were just bodies. Luke meant something to me. I accepted my feelings toward him as part of my reality. It felt right. I had casual sex with someone, which was disasterous, and determined not to do it again unless I was first shown the long term respect and devotion that I'd received from Luke F-rd. That was months ago. During Luke's visit to Australia, when he underwent massive psychological testing at the behest of his family (who wanted to know why he behaves so strangely and is so interested in pornography), when he was so far away and undergoing such criticism from people he loved, I couldn't even think of myself. I was in the middle of a 1,000-mile move, and I felt as if I could do it in my sleep, and that my energy belonged to my friend (because friendship is really the basis of love). I used words to fight on his behalf. They came easily, and helped me measure the depth of my love for him. It is very, very deep. And he earned it. This is not an obsession nor an infatuation. This is something that started as a game for me, and deepened into friendship as we fought common enemies and explored a mutual agenda, and evolved into a real respect for each other despite some serious idiosyncracies and emotional problems on both sides. It's unconditional, and I have no expectations of it other than continued respect. I'm not looking for a husband or a boyfriend or a father for my children. I have no idea what Luke is looking for, but then, neither does he, and that's okay, too. Some Nice Things About Luke Lynne writes my mom for Mother's Day: I understand you are moving back to Australia. So I thought it might be a good time to share some of the good things I've seen happening over the past year with Luke, who continues to be an amazing friend to me. I met Luke about a year ago, right around the same time he posted the long letter you'd written about how truly awful his behavior was, and it was a very strange experience to be reading that and wondering who and what I was getting involved with. But, since the Australian adventure, when you mutually decided to keep the family off the site...well, he did. He has. I'm proud of Luke when he recognizes that others have needs and desires that are every bit as important as his own. The other thing that I'm really pleased about is that he's progressed from telling me "never," as in "this can never happen" to "a long time." As in, "Things will be this way for a long time." I think that's a tremendous step for him to take. It opens up a lot of possibilitie to him, and gives him room to grow and change and become healthier mentally and physically. I don't care for absolutes. I think they are limiting. I'm two weeks away from successfully finishing my first term back in college (I got my B.A. way back in 1983), looking forward to a new career (after lots more school), had an article published in the college paper! and am generally doing really well. NONE OF IT would have been possible without Luke's constant emotional support and encouragement. He believes in me, and in my abilities, and keeps me making good decisions, and I can't imagine what my life would have been like without his presence in it. Just giving me the impetus to get up and write for an hour every morning changes the way I approach school and term papers and such. He constantly expresses his appreciation, and he's such an intelligent man that it means a lot to me to have that from him. Lately we've been practicing "disagreement." That it doesn't have to mean anger and temper tantrums, but can be worked through, and the emotions expressed, and that the underlying relationship can return to its usual high level of regard and respect. Eventually we will work on the next step, which is "compromise." I'm in no hurry. Some people are slow learners. Some people are extremely slow learners. And then there's Luke.... But I'm very optimistic -- I think he's really doing very well himself. In terms of the pornography, which I know you dislike terribly, Luke is doing something absolutely unprecedented. He is allowing open debate. I'm currently taking a Sociology & Gender class, and doing a term paper on pornography, which may just be the first few baby steps toward dealing with the misogyny that is so deeply embedded in the American Culture. Luke gives me a platform for my views. They upset people, and he doesn't see that as a problem. I got thrown out of the Free Speech Conference in Sacramento because I am Luke's friend, and I have never been more proud of my relationship with him than I have been since -- they are a horrid bunch of hypocrites, and Luke, in his willingness to hear (and post) all sides of an issue, stands head and shoulders above any of these people. If there is ever any change in the way this country deals with sexually explicit material and the misogyny that runs rampant through our culture, it may well start with the work Luke lets me do. Maybe he's foolhardy, maybe he's fearless, maybe he just wants attention (well, we know he does, but there are lots of ways he can get attention that bring nothing to society). But he's also very brave -- he catches a lot of criticism from his audience for associating with me, being that I'm not a young, submissive porno bimbo, but he continues to show me the utmost respect in our professional dealings when no one else has the courage to think for themselves. I want to wish you the best in your relocation. I hope some day to visit that part of the world to study advanced sheep husbandry and genetics. My dream job is me, my dogs and a few thousand sheep out in the middle of nowhere. And if anyone wants me, they can e-mail me. What a glorious life. Hands Off, Luke F-rd! Chaim Amalek writes: Luke, lay off the syrupy emotional onanism and rejoin the rest of the world. One way for you to return to the land of the living is by going to jewish singles events EVERY WEEKEND for a few months. Then tell us all about your return to your Christian roots and your lovely blonde shiksa bride. And by the way, doesn't the thought of a porner writing to and emoting on your mother seriously spook you? Otherwise, if you want to bait me, get better bait. Luke: What's the matter Chaim, are you afraid of strong emotions? Chaim: If I want strong emotions I'll move to Miami, LA, or some other part of the Latin world. Do not revel in the shameful weaknesses of others! 1/6/01 VancouverSun.com reports: A longtime Vancouver pornography importer and distributor is now exporting to the U.S. a potentially deadly chemical that is widely thought to enhance sexual pleasure but is illegal in both Canada and the States if sold for that purpose. Tony Perry is one of two directors of AAA Packaging of Delta, which has shipped hundreds of thousands of units of isobutyl nitrite to customers in almost every state in the United States, according to documents obtained by The Vancouver Sun. A [1973?] report prepared by CLEU -- the now-defunct Coordinated Law Enforcement Unit, a joint operation of the RCMP and municipal forces formed to fight organized crime -- noted that sex stores were selling magazines grouped according to such subject areas as "bondage," "homosexual," "heterosexual," and "kiddie porn." It was the latter that caused then-Vancouver Mayor Jack Volrich to take matters in his own hands. Magazines called Moppets and Nudist Moppets were being displayed in city stores, and Volrich said those magazines crossed the line. The Moppets magazines were distributed by Johnson and Franklin. Volrich said at the time it was difficult for the city to deal with magazines that contained adult nudity. "But this (Moppets) can only be designed for people who have perverse habits," the mayor said. Volrich went downtown, visited the stores selling Moppets and ordered the store owners to remove the offending books from their shelves, using as his leverage provisions of the city charter that prohibit businesses from "gross misconduct." Moppets, the mayor said, "depict children in a very gross manner." The store-keepers complied. Contacted by reporters, Perry said all his product was cleared by Canada Customs. "But if somebody in authority at the local level has any objection, they should just let us know and we'll withdraw it," Perry said at the time. "I'm just trying to make a living, not break the law." He added: "I order from catalogues -- it's not up to me and neither is it proper for me to check the validity of my suppliers." The suppliers of Moppets would not have appreciated being "checked out." The Moppets magazines were published and distributed by a company called Lynden Distributors of Van Nuys, California, a CLEU investigation determined. The company was controlled by the late Reuben Sturman, a mobster from Cleveland with ties to New York crime families. Sturman is also credited with inventing the peep booth, by enclosing coin-operated projectors in a small booth with a screen and a door that could be locked. Tony Perry had several peep booths in his stores. Sturman, according to several U.S. crime probes, supplied booths to adult-book store owners free of charge, in return for half the receipts. A never-before- published report by the Middle Atlantic-Great Lakes Organized crime law enforcement network showed Sturman's empire spanned the U.S., Europe, South America and Africa. Sturman reached into Canada through his ownership of Bret Distributors Inc. of Toronto, a connection that has never before been published. Organized crime commissions in the U.S. heard repeated testimony that Sturman took orders from -- or at least paid kickbacks to -- leaders of the Gambino crime family in New York. Convicted of tax evasion in 1992, Sturman died in a U.S. prison in 1997. In a brief to a House of Commons committee on crime in 1978, B.C. police agencies said of Perry's company: "Johnson and Franklin were the major distributors of this material in British Columbia and have been shown to obtain the majority of their material through their organized crime contacts." The brief continued: "A prior investigation by the Vancouver police
department and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police established that
seizures of pornographic material by police were written off by the
organized crime concerns and not charged to Johnson and Franklin."
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