Kevin Moore

We chat by phone Monday night, April 11, 2005.

Kevin, 31 (never married): "Do you remember Cherie [the Jewish porn star, who has her name in Hebrew letters tattooed across her lower back]?"

Duke: "What did you do to her, you Aryan?"

Kevin: "The outfit and hat she was wearing was the spitting image of a Nazi stormtrooper. I said to her, Cherie, are you offended by the hat you're wearing? But she didn't understand."

Duke: "Why did you start your own production company [Jekyll And Hyde Productions with Adam Grayson of Search Extreme]?"

Kevin: "That was the whole reason I got into porn. I shot amateur stuff when I lived in Massachusetts. I did a bunch of amateur websites. I went into the stunningcurves.com thing for a while [from 1999-2001]. That allowed me to get my foot in the door of the LA scene. I was having a lot of resistance when I lived out East. I would try to get my foot in the door and come out to the convention and show myself and everyone told me to get lost.

"With Stunningcurves, at first everyone told me to get lost. But I kept at it and it allowed me the ability to get my foot in the door and start making connections and meeting people.

"I share a similar story to Jules Jordan. When I was younger, I worked in an adult bookstore out East. I'd rent Buttman movies and say, 'I really want to do this one day. I want to see what I can do with porno.'

"The catalyst to all this is that through Mike Metropolis, I met Joey Silvera. He pushed me to shoot my own stuff."

Duke: "He's like a father figure."

Kevin: "Yeah. When you read sites like your's, you get this [view] that there are a lot of scumbags in the business. I was fortunate that I got hooked in with some good people -- Joey [production director], John Leslie [shot camera for the series Gobble the Goop]. John is one of my all-time favorite directors. I remember when I was younger the first time I saw Curse of the Catwoman and being blown away. I look up to guys like Joey, John Leslie, John Stagliano..."

Duke: "Would you introduce them to your parents?"

Kevin: "Yeah. They're all pretty normal guys. They've got a good sense of humor about things."

Duke: "Could you tell John Stagliano to stop lying about me?"

Kevin: "I read your little thing. I don't know John Stagliano too well. Of all the people I've watched, he's had the most influence on me when I picked up the camera. That's true of most people in this business."

Duke: "You're not outgrowing this industry?"

Kevin: "I'm interested in some other stuff. On the side, I've been working on some [non-pornographic] shorts. SAG actors.

"People will bag on me for this, but if I hadn't been shooting porno, I would never have gotten the opportunity to get involved with the shorts. People who say that porno doesn't... If you're a motivated person, porno offers you the opportunity to really get your hands dirty. You can have amazing control of your product. There are good things in porno. It all depends on what circle you run in. It's also easy to get hooked with the bad side of the business."

Duke: "How do you feel about slapping the girls and punching them?"

Kevin: "Depends. If they're Melissa Lauren, they want to do it. If they're not, and that happens to them, that hurts the whole industry because then that girls resents all of us."

Duke: "Have you punched many girls in this industry?"

Kevin: "I've never punched any. I'm not really a woman-hater. I'm not into that I've-got-to-beat-up-a-girl-to-get-off thing.

"A lot of the movies today are about beating the girl down and degrading her as much as possible. But Joey has done scenes where women dominate him and slap him around. He has a series where girls dominate men. Joey said to me, don't force something on a girl that you wouldn't want done to yourself. That stuck in my head and I thought a lot about that."

Duke: "How do you like working on Joey's tranny sets?"

Kevin: "That's the number one question I get. Joey shoots most of that stuff in Brazil. I do not go with him. Evil Angel has an office down there.

"For me, this is a job and [tranny stuff] is part of what I do. I don't have any moral problem with it. It was not something I was aware of until I started working in LA. A lot of the stuff we shoot here tends to be girls with she-males [aka chicks with dicks], which is semi-erotic."

Duke: "What about one she-male buggering another she-male up the bum?"

Kevin: "I've never seen two she-males get it on."

Duke: "Do you think you might be a sex addict?"

Kevin: "Yeah, I've thought that before. I'm into sex. That's my reason for doing pornography. It allows me to vicariously experience certain fantasies without having to do them. In the end, I'm monogamous. I like having sex with someone I'm having a relationship with."

Duke: "Or someone you've paid."

Kevin: "I'd rather not exchange money for it if I don't have to. Porn allows me to get things out of my head that boarder on sex addiction. But I can shoot it and get it out of my head. It's a relief. It keeps me sane."

Duke: "What happened to stunningcurves?"

Kevin: "That was one of the things that I loved and hated. I loved it when I started it. But you know... You love it but I hated the stress that came from writing. And the only way to get good traffic in the adult news business is gossip. I'm not cut out for that 'Let's talk trash about people.' It's not me.

"I like to keep to myself. When people tell me things, I like to keep that to myself.

"I was on production. I knew that if I burned a ton of bridges, my ability to get a job in production might never happen. I'd just get cut off.

"I decided the best thing was to turn Stunningcurves into a photo archive and stop doing the news. It was like a huge weight had lifted off my shoulders. It was a lot of work. I was sick of sitting in front of a computer all the time. Now I'm out and about."

Duke: "And you make more money."

Kevin went to his first porn show in January 1996 at CES. "I had a disposable camera. I more went to just check out the girls. As I got older, I got more serious about it."

Kevin moved to LA in September of 2002. Before then he had two jobs in Amherst, Massachusetts -- computer work at a university by day and running his own amateur sites at night. "I was shooting a lot. I was really into photography. I would shoot stills. I would shoot amateur girls."

Duke: "Why not the beautiful nature?"

Kevin: "I shot some of that too. I shot a lot of nature, a lot of snow, a lot of Fall. And I always came back to wanting to shoot naked girls."

Moore's life is a lot like the movie Goodwill Hunting.

He says he's never dated a girl in the business but he does do an oral scene with an 18-year old Keri Sable in his classic movie Stick it in My Face 3.

Eeek, I must never watch that.

Duke: "Were you throat-gagging her like Max Hardcore?"

Kevin: "No. You know me. I'm a little shy. I'm not a party guy. I don't hang out with the social scene in the business. It makes me uncomfortable."

Duke: "How do you keep Adam [Kevin's partner] from jumping on the talent?"

Kevin: "He's hard to control. I'm the more controlled pervert. He's more of the crazy pervert."

Duke: "How did you guys get together?"

Kevin: "I did an article on SearchExtreme when it first launched for Stunningcurves. He's an East Coast. I tend to get along better with people from the East Coast."

Duke: "How do you divide up your partnership? Does he do the dishes and you do the vacuuming?"

Kevin: "Yeah, and a little dusting.

"Adam's the business guy. He's Jewish like yourself."

Duke: "He has a natural affinity for money."

Kevin: "He has a natural affinity for money. He doesn't hide it. I don't have that obsessive eye on the money. That's a problem. I think too much about shooting. Adam is good at keeping me in line, on deadlines, and keeping the money coming."

Duke: "You're more of the artist."

Kevin: "I guess. He's not really into shooting."

Duke: "Can you give me any insights into Keri Sable based on your scene together?"

Kevin: "She's very grounded and mature for her age. She's a smart girl who will go on to be incredibly successful in this business. I'm ecstatic that she got that Wicked contract. It's unfortunate for us little people who can't shoot her anymore."

Duke: "Tell me about your scene together."

Kevin: "I had her tied to a bed. The set-up was that she had done something and I wouldn't let her out. She was struggling to get out and I'm dangling the keys over her. She says, 'I'll do anything you want to get out.'

"A lot of performers talked to me about what they go through to perform. I said to myself, I want to see what it is like. I would get frustrated sometimes when guys wouldn't show certain angles. Guys weren't thinking about the camera and the lighting."

Duke: "Is it true she had to get dental work after that scene because you bashed some of her molars out?"

Kevin: "No. Keri likes to have her body perfected [through plastic surgery]. She had some jaw work done after that."

Duke: "How have people reacted to you once they found out you had done a scene?"

Kevin: "Nobody has said a word to me."

Kevin claims that during his small window of opportunity to shoot Keri, he couldn't find any guys, so he stepped up to the plate.

Duke: "What do you love and hate about the industry?"

Kevin: "I love the freedom. I love the circle I hang out with.

"I hate the self-loathing. A lot of people who work in the business loathe it. I think that if you really hate it that much, you should go do something else. I don't get why people who are in the business hate it so much. It's like it is cool to make fun of the industry as much as possible. It's a way of saying, 'I'm too good for this. I'm gonna make fun of it all day long.' When there comes a day that I hate doing this, then I'm going to quit.

"Joey, John [Leslie], [John] Stagliano, they love it. With Joey, every time we shoot, every casting call we go on, you'd never know he'd had sex on film the last 30-years. He's still so passionate about making a quality product. He's serious about thinking about the guys at home who watch his movies.

"Jules [Jordan] is so passionate about making a quality product. I don't know how people can get down on him for doing that. I wish there was a weeding out of the industry, to get rid of the people who hate it.

"In the end, people like me and Jules and people at Red Light District, we're all fans."

Duke: "How has your time in the industry affected you?"

Kevin: "I don't have any new and weird perversions. I'm not as shy. I've come out of that shell. You can't be shy and shoot. I've had to grow and come out from behind my walls and be more socially acceptable and effectively communicate on set."

Duke: "You're like those retarded kids in movies who become normal."

Kevin: "I'm like Rain Man, if you say so.

"Most of the people my age in the industry go to clubs... I don't like to go to clubs. If you go to clubs, you're cool. I'm not cool. You understand. You know what it's like. I'm lost in the mystique of LA. I'm Lost in Translation."

Duke: "Are you Lost in Love but you don't know much..."

Kevin: "Air Supply."

Duke: "How will you celebrate their 30th anniversary May 12?"

Kevin: "Maybe I'll bring over a lady friend and we'll listen to some Air Supply and we'll kick it, kick it. We'll read your book while we listen to some Air Supply. That'll pay true homage to both of you."

Duke: "Which porn star would you most like to listen to Air Supply with? I'm sure there are many."

Kevin: "Most of the girls in the business would not be cool with Air Supply. They would walk out on me if I put on some Air Supply."

Kevin does not support decriminalizing bestiality yet he holds that "government shouldn't have a say over our personal lives. I don't think the state should decide who can get married."

An altar boy, Kevin thought about entering the priesthood when he was twelve.

Duke: "Did the priesthood ever enter you?"

Kevin: "No. Everyone asks me that. Catholicism had its affect on me. Here I am making porno. That is a testimony to the climate that Catholicism breeds -- restrictive. I had all these issues with guilt when I was a teenager. That guilt manifests itself into the person I am now."

Duke: "I see a strong Roman Catholic influence in your work."

Kevin: "I'm always going to be fascinated by religion. Am I going to burn in hell because I didn't accept Jesus as my Savior? Because I was raised Catholic, it is so hard for me to move away from the concept of Heaven and Hell, Right and Wrong, Black and White."

Kevin believes in G-d. "I think that priests don't marry is terrible. That women don't have a bigger role in the Church is terrible. In Catholicism, you are not allowed to confess your sins to G-d. You have to confess them to a fricken priest. You have no personal relationship with G-d. I find that it is very dogmatic and very controlling and I was very surprised when the Pope died, how the world was all into Catholicism. A few months ago, the world was so angry at Catholicism because of all the pedophiles who were priests.

"As far back as I remember, my family went to church. But the last time I visited my parents, they didn't go to church. I thought the sky was going to fall. They weren't going to church because of all the stuff about these priests assaulting the kids. It destroyed their faith in the doctrine. They'd been giving money to the Church all these years..."

Duke: "Do you think G-d is ok with pornography?"

Kevin: "The Catholic in me says no way. That it's a total sin..."

Duke: "How do strangers react when you tell them you are a pornographer?"

Kevin: "...I've never had anyone flip out on me. I do have a friend I grew up with... He now lives in Burbank. He's one of my oldest friends in the world. When I came out and visited him a bunch of times. He and his wife are born-again Christians. He's not allowed to talk to me anymore because of what I do.

"When you meet girls who are not in this business, it takes a unique girl to be cool with what you do, to understand that I am not hitting on the girls. I brought a girl on set so she could see it. She was surprised at how sterile it was. When the camera comes on, it is very different than when the camera goes off.

"I've met girls who are cool with it, even a little fascinated... Unlike out East, where I met far more women who had issues with it."

Adam Grayson says: "The suggestion that I am a deranged pervert is overboard. I am good with money. Kevin is awful with money. Kevin is a mad genius and I'm a good Jewish accountant."