A Sunday Morning Chat With Hamilton Steele
2003-03-02 11:33:17
I call at 10:45AM, Sunday, 3/2/03.
Kelly Steele answers. "[DUC] The real [DUC]? Hang on, I won't tell him
it's you."
Kelly calls to her husband: "Hey baby."
Hamilton: "Hello?"
Luke: "Hi, it's DUC, Jason Sechrest gave me your number."
Hamilton chuckles and his wife laughs in the background: "How are you
doing, DUC?"
Luke: "I'm well."
Hamilton: "I've got the infamous DUC on the phone, to what do I owe
the pleasure?"
Luke: "Your publicist Jason Sechrest gave me your number."
Hamilton: "It must be about the contract, right?"
Jason Sechrest writes:
(BURBANK, CA) -- Triple X Media is announcing this week the signing
of male newcomer, Hamilton Steele, to a dual non-exclusive video and
exclusive Internet contract. Triple X Media released this statement
on the signing: "We choose Hamilton Steele because his guy next door
image has widespread appeal. Not only is he someone easy to relate to,
but also there is some undefinable quality that women just go nuts over.
Add to this his larger than life screen presence and sexual performances
that either melt his partners with a gentle touch or command their submission
with pure aggression. We couldn't be happier to have him as a part of
our team."
Hamilton Steele is the other-half to on and off screen partner, Kelly
Steele, making them the XXX world's hottest new porn couple. Steele
said he has been heavily influenced by the likes of Nick Manning, who
took home the AVN Award [ http://www.avn.com ] for 2003 Best Male Newcomer.
"He's a good friend and I am impressed with how far he's come in such
a short period of time," said Hamilton Steele in a statement from his
home in the San Fernando Valley this morning. "I hope to take home the
Best Male Newcomer honor myself next year and have every intention of
following through with that goal."
Kelly and Hamilton Steele recently teamed with DV8 Public Relations
representative, Jason Sechrest [ http://www.jasoncurious.com ], for
publicity, as Sechrest repped both 2003 AVN Best New Starlet, Jenna
Haze, and Best Male Newcomer, Nick Manning, throughout last year. The
happy porn couple will take to Sechrest's KSEXradio [ http://www.ksexradio.com
] show, "The Young & the Curious" to discuss their on and off screen
sex life and their blossoming adult video careers on Friday, March 7th,
2003 at 6:00 pm (PT).
Luke: "How long have you been in the industry?"
Hamilton: "I'm in my second year."
Luke: "How did you get in?"
Hamilton: "Selling my wife's panties on EBay. We were Joe-average and
normal people. We did an interview once and [the interviewer wrote]
we were where porn meets the suburbs. We're the traditional suburban
couple that ended up doing porn. We're just average people."
Luke: "Where are you from?"
Hamilton: "Everybody asks that question. It's become a running joke.
Let's just say my heart is in Newfoundland. How's that?
"My wife and I got into the business simultaneously. It was a fearsome
thing getting into to. We'd been doing our own thing and then we came
down here and it was a shock. It was a whole zoo.
"We were doing amateur stuff. We developed a fan following in Europe.
We even did a four-month tour of Europe. We came here and all the prestige
we had built up - we were nobodies. We had to start over from square
one.
"My wife is close to 6' tall. She's not one of these small-titted blondes
that people go crazy about. She's a real woman with breasts, 5'10, a
redhead... She's 34DD-24-34.
"Y2K led to this whole thing. I was a system's analyst. I thought Y2K
[hysteria] was going to make me rich because everybody was losing their
brains about it. I was taking a look at the end of month receipts and
I thought I'd have all this money. Then I took a look at the bills from
all the people I was suing for failure to pay and I realized I was in
the hole.
"I was sitting there looking at a men's magazine and there was some
girl there selling her underwear for $100. I thought, 'Huh.' I looked
over and there was the dirty laundry. I had a home office at the time.
"On a lark, I put an ad up on EBay for her panties and the next thing
I know, I became the panty king. It got to the point where I was having
her change underwear several times a day.
"We created a video called Masturbation Slut 2. We made part two before
we ever made part one. Marketing genius. Everybody wanted to get a hold
of part one.
"Next thing we know we fell into this community of different pornographers
in our area. One thing led to another. Next thing we know, we were porn
stars.
"We moved to Los Angeles in September of 2001. I've done over 100 sex
scenes and my wife has done about 30. We keep her demand high. That's
the smart way to do it."
Luke: "Does she work with black guys?"
Hamilton: "You'll have to ask her about that sort of stuff. When it
comes to questions about interracial, I don't want to touch it with
a 50-foot pole. One day the community wants interracial and the next
day they don't. It's one of those things best left unspoken and undiscussed."
Luke: "How has the industry surprised you compared to what you thought
it would be like?"
Hamilton: "I thought it would be a lot more business-like. I've got
a Masters degree majoring in computer science and business.
"My criticism of the industry as a whole is that you need less people
making movies and more people getting back to business basics. They
need to learn how to market, how to strengthen their distribution. They
need to get to the core essence of what business does - sell product.
Instead we have three million yabohs running around all making movies
and killing themselves off.
"The video industry will have to do a lot of changes or internet will
just take over. For the internet guys, the bottom line is the bottom
line. They are not looking for pomp, for gossip, for awards. They're
looking to make money."
Luke: "Have you found your Masters degree helpful in your success as
a male sex performer?"
Hamilton chuckles. "Not at all. The secret to my success is that I love
everybody and I have no opinions.
"We did a little bit for the Rodney Dangerfield movie BACK BY MIDNIGHT.
Egos are even larger on the mainstream. I'd rather have my ass kissed
literally rather than proverbially."
Luke: "What do you love and what do you hate about the industry?"
Hamilton: "At the best of times, the industry is a love-hate relationship.
"What I love about the industry is the infamy. I'm too lazy to be famous
for anything noteworthy in my life. I've got a real rebel's streak that
goes through me and I like to be infamous.
"What I've hated about the industry is [the gossip]. Every time I turn
around, somebody has a derogatory comment. It doesn't just come from
outside the industry, it comes from within the industry as well. They're
not happy unless they can reduce you to the lowest possible common denominator.
"There are wonderful people [in the industry] like Veronica Hart [VCA
director and producer]. One day you're listening to a guy who has been
in the industry for 20 years and he's a total jackass and then you walk
into Veronica Hart's office and you're empowered.
"The industry seems to run to two opposite extremes. There doesn't seem
to be a lot of middleground."
Luke: "Did you post to RAME about Thanksgiving and Christmas dinner?"
Hamilton: "Yes. We look at porn as our family. It didn't start out for
us that way but it's got this real gang/family/something weird pull-you-in
thing that you just feel loyal to at some point."
Luke: "How does your own family feel about the direction you've taken?"
Hamilton: "You'll have to talk to Kelly. She says it's great."
Luke: "What about your parents, your siblings?"
Hamilton: "Pardon? I'm sorry. You're breaking up. I'm not hearing anything."
Luke: "Your parents?"
Hamilton: "I'm sorry. I'm not hearing that. You'll have to go to your
next question."
Luke: "What did you think of the Primetime Special on Belladonna?"
Hamilton: "Whenever the mainstream's involved, can you get expect anything
less?
"I've met Belladonna. I think she's a fantastic girl.
"The mainstream [media's] business is sensationalism and good news isn't
going to sell. They've got to get ratings and money. They have to come
in and say, 'She's a skank. She's a whore. She hates herself. Her mother
thinks she's a bitch.' That's what everybody wants to hear.
"Porn makes people feel good about themselves by giving them something
to look down upon."
Luke: "Have you been ripped off in the industry?"
Hamilton: "Yeah, but that's been fixed."
Luke: "Did anyone lose a limb?"
Hamilton: "No. I don't function like that. I just don't work for them
again and I let everyone know.
"When we first came in to the industry, we had problems with one company
that was infamous for bouncing checks."
Luke: "Extreme Associates."
Hamilton: "No comment. But let's just say, their new general manager
[Rod Fontana at Extreme] has taken steps to clear all that up and I'm
happy with that and I'm happy to give them a second chance. I worked
for them on Friday. They paid me cash. We'll see. I'm willing to give
anybody a chance if they're willing to admit where they were wrong."
Luke: "Who did you work for on Friday?"
Hamilton: "I worked for Bruntco (owned by Sam Shaft). We did a large
swingers party. There were five couples plus us. We had sex in front
of about 150 people and they filmed it."
Luke: "How has it affected your soul working in this industry?"
Hamilton: "My soul? Geez, that's a good question. I'm used to dealing
with the corporate world. In any given day, there's a lot of politics
in it. Porn has simplified my life. I know what's expected of me. I
know what I have to do.
"My physical body has changed dramatically from the time I first got
involved in the industry. I used to be skinny with long stringy hair.
I looked like the traditional computer geek. Now I'm working out out
at the gym constantly and I've put on a good 40-pounds lifting weights.
I've cut all the hair. Porn has made me healthier than I have ever been
before.
"No, I don't think porn has affected my soul. If anything, I'm probably
a better person. There's a lot less tension in my life than there used
to be. But of course nobody wants to hear about that.
"Kelly and I were perverts before we ever started porn. We lived an
alternative lifestyle. We experimented with swinging and different things.
We were always very sexual. Getting into porn was a natural extension.
Here was an opportunity for us to make a living at what we do best.
"On the other side of the coin, Kelly doesn't dance. We don't escort."
Luke: "Even if the guy offered $5000 to get to know you better?"
Hamilton: "If he put the money across the table... Give me the chance..."
Luke: "How has it affected your marriage?"
Hamilton: "I think it's better. We work together more. We see a lot
more of each other. We never used to work together. Kelly did her thing
and I did my thing. I used to work 60-80 hours a week, looking for a
misplaced semi-colon in a computer program that wouldn't compile. Now
we make phone calls together. We do rounds together. Half the time we're
working together. It hasn't affected us in a negative way.
"When we first got into the industry, people played divide-and-conquer
games with us. 'Just give us the girl and you go f--- yourself.' You
go from being the suitcase pimp... For the longest time, I kept getting
called Kelly's boyfriend.
"Over time, people decided we were cool. A lot of people have rethought
their opinions on us. We've been in everybody's face, too. It's our
nature. We work hard. We network. We're constantly pushing. Sometimes
we're too professional. It's an industry filled with a lot of very sensitive
egos. If you do your job right, you end up pissing off a lot of people
but at the same time, you end up making a lot of friends.
"Rod Fontana is now officially the general manager at Extreme. Rod is
a gentleman. If there is anybody who can get that company on track,
it's Rod. I think he's the only man who could take over that job.
"A standard conversation is who is working for who, and hey, did you
hear what's going on with Extreme? I could go a whole week and hear
the same story over and over again. I haven't been back to Extreme since
February 2001.
"Rod has a good name. People love him. He's a real pervert. Rod is right
up there with Veronica Hart. There my A-list of people like James DiGiorgio...
"Jimmy was one of the first contacts we made out here. It was last November
that he filmed me for the first time in Too Young For You with Elizabeth
Delmar.
"Jimmy is a great guy. He's honest. He's upfront. He doesn't take this
industry seriously. He's got a good outlook on it. It's just porno,
for God's sakes. We're just having fun. Porno is more of a lifestyle
than a career. The only people who should be in porn are perverts who've
figured out how to make money being perverts.
"Jimmy cracks me up. I log on to this site every day. He's like a Marx
brother."
Hamilton, Kelly Steele Interview
2003-07-17 15:42:11
In the heat, everyone dresses casually. We meet
at Starbucks.
Hamilton Steele takes immediate
control of the interview. He's called me many times over the past two
weeks. It sounded like he was going to leave the industry. Now it seems
he's in for at least another year.
Hamilton says he hates LA. Kelly
Steele likes it.
Hamilton: "This is my third year down here [from New Foundland]. Many
people are saying I have flaked on a contract."
On 3/2/03, I
interviewed Hamilton about this contract:
(BURBANK, CA) -- Triple X Media is announcing this week the signing
of male newcomer, Hamilton Steele, to a dual non-exclusive video and
exclusive Internet contract. Triple X Media released this statement
on the signing: "We choose Hamilton Steele because his guy next door
image has widespread appeal. Not only is he someone easy to relate to,
but also there is some undefinable quality that women just go nuts over.
Add to this his larger than life screen presence and sexual performances
that either melt his partners with a gentle touch or command their submission
with pure aggression. We couldn't be happier to have him as a part of
our team."
Hamilton Steele is the other-half to on and off screen partner, Kelly
Steele, making them the XXX world's hottest new porn couple. Steele
said he has been heavily influenced by the likes of Nick Manning, who
took home the AVN Award for 2003 Best Male Newcomer. "He's a good friend
and I am impressed with how far he's come in such a short period of
time," said Hamilton Steele in a statement from his home in the San
Fernando Valley this morning. "I hope to take home the Best Male Newcomer
honor myself next year and have every intention of following through
with that goal."
Hamilton: "I'm not going to name the company because even bad publicity
is good publicity.
"I didn't flake. I had personal tragedies. My son Shamus, in his early
twenties, died of leukemia just over two months ago [in New Foundland,
Canada]. [Hamilton was 12-years old when he fathered the boy.] My son
was a gentle spirit. He was not like his father trying to conquer the
world."
Luke: "You had a son in his twenties?"
Hamilton: "Yes. That's the stunned look I get on everybody's face. Yes,
I started young."
Luke: "How old were you when you...?"
Hamilton: "I'm not going to tell that story. He was the best mistake
that I ever made. I'd give everything just to have him back.
"I knew about it. It does affect your work. As it was coming down, I
couldn't concentrate. I told them that. You've got to get someone else
to fill in for me. I've got to go take care of this. I delayed leaving.
To make a long story short, due to complications, I never got that last
time with my son. I spent the better part of two months up there taking
care of him. I said to my company, 'Don't panic. I will be back.'
"I sent them emails saying I was delayed. They didn't respond. I was
a good two weeks longer than I expected."
Kelly sits quietly at Hamilton's side.
Hamilton: "I came back to uphold what I'd stated I'd do.
"I'd written the contract. It had a good will clause that we weren't
going to say anything terrible to each other. The person I report to
starts off with, 'I thought you flaked on the contract and weren't coming
back. I tried your phone. It was disconnected.'
"I was 5000 miles away. Cell phones don't work in some of the regions
of New Foundland. By the time I was done with everything, I was in Labrador.
It took two hours to get to a phone. I wasn't getting paid enough to
float a place down here and a place up there. I had expenses taking
care of funeral arrangements. I told them I might not be able to be
reached.
"The people were saying I'd flaked. If you ask me, that breaches the
good will nature of the contract. Considering I was the one who wrote
the contract, I'm probably the one who can interpret it the best."
Hamilton apologizes to his meek wife.
Hamilton: "When the contract was signed, the guy I dealt with had the
hots for
my wife."
Luke: "Who could help themselves?"
Hamilton: "That's fine. I don't have a problem with that. Kelly and
I are wired differently. We enjoy seeing each other with other people.
We got into it because we were perverts, not because we needed the money.
It's like an adolescent fantasy.
"Kelly thought he was attractive. He thought she was the cat's meow.
After the ink was dried, and we were walking out to the car, I just
got tired of the two of them dance around this whole thing. I said,
'If you want to go do something, go right ahead. I'll be in the damn
car.'"
Kelly: "I blew him."
Luke: "Was it good?"
Kelly: "It was ok. He went at me like a ravaged animal. It was interesting."
Luke: "How old was he?"
Kelly: "He was young."
Hamilton: "About my age."
Luke: "Was he socially retarded?"
The couple laughs.
Hamilton: "I'll let you in on a secret. All the guys in this industry
are socially retarded."
Kelly giggles: "I'm not going to comment on that."
Hamilton: "Lesson number one. I've told my wife - you're blowing more
money than you can shake a stick at. The way guys are wired in this
industry, if they get it for nothing, that's it. You go from being the
hottest thing they ever saw to absolutely nothing. She still disagrees
with me..."
Kelly: "No. In that guy's eyes, definitely. He had promised me a scene
for his own thing, which was basically the same thing I had just done.
And it just disappeared. I went from being this girl he's totally interested
in to I am not good enough for anything."
Hamilton: "The difference between an A girl, B girl, or C girl is the
level of the hardon of the production manager, director or the guy with
the money. That's all it is.
"The only advice I'd give to any girl in this industry - make 'em pay
for it, no matter what.
"Between the insult to my son and to my family... When I left, they
had somebody else filling in for me."
The talk moves to other matters.
Kelly: "We're Canadians. One of the ways we keep our virginity is by
doing other stuff."
Hamilton: "By the time we were 13, we were experimenting with group
sex."
Luke: "Did you ever pursue the wildlife?"
Kelly: "No. When you have a girl who's willing, why?"
I ask about collecting money owed them from Extreme.
Kelly: "I never went to collect the other half because Gene Ross said..."
Hamilton interrupts.
Kelly: "Gene Ross said..."
Hamilton interrupts: "Nooooooooooo. This is my interview. Shut up. Gene
Ross is Gene Ross."
Kelly: "Gene Ross did your career good."
Hamilton: "He did my career great. Every time Gene Ross opened his mouth,
he did my career great, including the time that he said I was dead.
I couldn't have asked for better publicity. 'Hamilton Steele died of
an apparent drug overdose.'
"I'm standing there doing laundry and people are phoning canceling shoots
because they heard I was dead."
DUC to Kelly: "Did Gene Ross ever hit on you?"
Kelly: "No. Let's just say Gene was misinformed."
Luke: "So that's why you didn't want to go back to Extreme to collect
your money."
Kelly: "I just didn't want to deal with Gene. Once he left, I went after
my money and I got it."
Luke: "You thought Gene was unethical?"
Kelly: "Yes, and I'm going to leave it at that. I'm not going to go
into any detail as to what it was that he did."
Luke: "Threats?"
Kelly: "No threats. Just that he was unethical. I didn't want to deal
with him. So I stayed away."
Hamilton: "We suddenly started hearing these terms we'd never heard
before like suitcase pimp."
Luke: "That's in Gene's column about you?"
Hamilton: "Possibly."
Kelly: "Possibly."
Hamilton: "That got my dander up. I don't like to be told I can't do
something."
Luke: "You can't tell me what's up between you guys and Gene Ross."
Hamilton: "Nice try."
Luke: "Did your son grow up with you?"
Hamilton: "No more details. I acknowledge him. That's as far as it goes.
"The major reason that I am acknowledging him is that he was the final
decision to stay [in porn]."
DUC pictures the young man on his death bed looking up at Hamilton and
pleading, 'Dad, it is my final wish that you stay in porn. It makes
me so proud. And if you're ever out there doing a scene, and you're
flagging, remember - just do it for me.'"
Hamilton: "This industry hates children."
DUC, incredulous: "He was your final decision to stay in the porn industry?"
Hamilton: "That's right."
Luke: "He asked you, 'Dad, please stay in the industry for me.'"
Hamilton: "No, I didn't get to speak to my son. I will tell you why
he was the final decision. It was something that my wife pointed out
to me - this industry is not friendly towards children. It's amazing
because there are so many performers in this industry who have children.
It's walking a fine line for them between being a performer and being
an adult.
"The reason that this industry doesn't like kids is that there are so
many kids in this industry. If you have a child, you can't be a child
yourself. And people don't want to hang around other people who have
a child. Having had a son, I know that. They force you to grow up.
"There are a lot of casualties of this industry. You've got an organization
called PAW - Protecting Adult Welfare. What about the kids? What happens
when mom is on a set. It is now 3PM. They won't get to her until 10PM.
And the kid is at some day care place. What is she telling them? It
suddenly occurred to me that this is not a good situation. Children
need to associate with other children that have some sort of commonality.
"What happens when some seven-year-old at school says, 'My mom's getting
DP'd today.'
"I think I want to start the Shamus Foundation. It will start off as
some sort of baby sitting group."
Talk wanders.
Kelly: "AVN has been completely upstanding. I'm looking you in the eye
as I tell you this."
Hamilton: "There are a lot of wingnuts in this industry, like at Legend,
where they take photographs of the girl, make it look like Polaroids,
and put all kinds of scathing comments underneath them. They see if
they can shove monster dildos up her while she's just trying to do the
Polaroids.
"Blowjobs run this industry. The guys behind the camera are trying to
angle for a blowjob."
Kelly doesn't have sex with black guys. "Mostly because any time I've
come across them, they're the stereotype of what is interracial. The
drama that goes with it is not worth it for the amount of money they
were offering.
"It's not that I'm racist at all. It's just that within this industry,
they make it the epitome of racism. I don't want to add to it by indulging
in it. If they could do it where it was just Joe Blow regular guy who
just so happens to be darker, fine. But they don't do that. In my performances,
I try to have class."
Luke: "How many porn producers, director or production managers have
come out to you and asked for sexual favors in exchange for work?"
Hamilton: "They never come out."
Kelly: "They don't say it."
Hamilton: "In the beginning it is, 'I'm not comfortable with the husband
around.'"
Kelly: "They'll try to get you alone. They'll ask for other things like
private dancers. Or for compliance videos."
Our conversation meanders.
Kelly: "My first anal scene was rough. I couldn't work for several days.
It had to do with my inexperience. I didn't know what to do with the
male talent. I was told I was going to be working with one person and
it got switched at the last minute. The chemistry wasn't there. I ended
up bleeding, bruised, my shins to my ankles were completely purple."
Hamilton: "Let's dispell some myths about me. I never got knocked out
on Jim Lane's shoot by Mr Pete with one hit. I did not get knocked out
at all. I have nothing but respect for Mr. Pete. He and I at the time
didn't know each other. We were waiting for our scenes. We're laughing
and joking. This one photographer talks about this gay porn set he was
on. Brian Surewood shows up ten seconds later and says, 'No hippies
and faggots allowed.' Mr. Pete had just left the room. I said, 'Notice
who left the room.'
"Mr. Pete comes running in, loses his temper, and that was the end of
it.
"Wanker Wang cuffed me up once. I've spoken to the guy ten minutes in
my whole life. The first time I met you, you showed up at my house looking
for beer. The second time was at Smash Pictures. I know nothing about
him."
.................................
Wankus at KSEX writes: "Wow, their account of their KSEX association
and experience with me could not be more far from the truth, highly
exaggerated and way off base. I'll respond line by line."
Hamilton: "I know Wankus [fom KSEXradio] doesn't like me."
Wankus: "I've never hid that from anyone"
Kelly laughs: "He blames you for the fact that I do not like him."
Wankus: "Didn't know you didn't, but not going to lose any sleep over
it."
Luke: "Did he hit on you?"
Kelly is in hysterics. "It was off the air that he made this proposition.
Solicitation requires an offer of money and there was never such."
Wankus: "Sorry "hon" I don't know where you got that impression, but
that's not my thing. On-Air, I hit on everyone, it's a bit and a solicitation
I almost never back up 'in real life'. I don't proposition talent off
the air. Thousands of previously interviewed porn stars, many much more
attractive then you, will attest to that."
Hamilton: "Let me tell you why we were at the top of the KSEX flake
list. When we first moved out here in September of 2001, everybody said
we had to do KSEX. We listened to the show on the Internet. It really
wasn't our type of fare. Wankus isn't for everybody. I don't find him
entertaining.
"Kelly called him to do an interview. She told him, 'There are a few
things I'd rather not discuss.' When we tuned in, the stuff was blabbed
on the air. So Kelly called up the next day and cancelled."
Kelly: "I had him on the phone and he noticed I had an accent. He said
I was Canadian. I said yes, but I'd rather not go there. If I come on
your show, that's the one thing I don't want talked about. At the time,
we hadn't even found an immigration lawyer yet.
"He went on the air that night and said I was going to be on the air
the next night and how I was a Canadian. So I was pissed off. I called
him and said, I am not going to be on your show tonight. I just made
an excuse that things had come up. He said, how about tomorrow night?
I said, I will call you back. I can't confirm to that.
"He counted those as two flakes."
Wankus: "That is not at ALL what happened. The Canada thing I don't
remember. I may have said "we have some cute Canadian coming in tonight"
or some sh-t, but they never cancelled. They made two scheduled appearance,
didn't call and didn't come. The final time they DID show up, only two
hours late. They called ONE time close to the end of my show to tell
me they were in traffic. I was like, "the show's over you may as well
not even come." They got there and so they didn't have a wasted trip,
I put them on Temptation with LorrAINIAC and Cuzf-cker."
"The next time was more than eight months later."
Hamilton: "We came on as a couple. I wanted to go on the LorrAINIAC
show. At least this is original. You've got a girl who claims to come
from a trailer park having sex with her cousin. I thought it was funny."
Kelly: "We wanted to get on her show but Wankus said that because we
were new talent, we had to go on his show."
Wankus: "At that time, the KSEX shows were themed and all guests went
on themed shows. The Wanker Show focused on newbies and amatuers and
Rainy's show was all trailer trash guests....had I met them before,
I would've put them on Rainy's show in the first place."
Hamilton: "He gave directions. We left over an hour early to try to
get there. We got lost. We kept calling but could not get through to
the show. We showed up for the last half hour of the show. And he had
a great time cutting us up. We were going to go on the LorrAINIAC show."
Kelly: "There was an hour in between his show and the LorrAINIAC show.
While we were sitting around waiting, the propositioning began. He wanted
to know when he was going to get to do something with me."
Hamilton: "I don't think Wankus likes me because I smacked his girlfriend's
ass once."
Wankus: "This is the biggest reason I don't like Hamilton Steele, aside
from the fact that he's a wannabe playah who looks like he should be
working at the Magic Castle. And he didn't smack her ass once, it was
twice, even after she told him "hands off." There is an unwritten code
of ethics in "off-set" situations. Unless you're in the scene, or good
friends that have a liberal, mutual understanding between each other,
you do not touch the goods. Hamilton walked up to Daisy off air, someone
he just met, and said "you have a real nice ass" and grabbed it. Daisy,
not a porn star, just a KSEX DJ, freaked. She turned around and told
him, "Don't you ever walk up to me and put your hands on me. I didn't
give you permission to do that and the next time I'm going to kick your
ass." [Daisy vs. Hamilton....hmmmn....poor guy, that Jersey girl would
send him back to his double-wide cryin'.] He acted all cocky and loud
and said, "I touch whatever I want...you have a nice ass, I appreciate
a nice ass." Then he smacked her ass as she walked by. If Daisy didn't
handle herself strongly, it probably would've been me that tore him
up and I'm glad it didn't have to be, because Hamilton's stupid funeral
stunt would've been a reality."
Kelly: "I turned around and said, 'You are not male talent. When you
become male talent, we can talk.' He writes in his gossip column that
he likes me. Why? I haven't been nice to him."
Hamilton: "There's a lot of alcohol at KSEX and I'm sure that people's
memories are clouded of what happened there."
Wankus: "It would take a lot of alcohol to want to proposition you Kelly."
Kelly: "I was drinking on the Rainiac Show."
Hamilton: "Put one drink in her and she's half in the bag. I enjoy a
good beer."
Kelly: "Every day if you can get it."
Wankus: "Have you noticed DUC, the people that don't like me are either
people I've fired or people that are on the KSEXradio.com Flake List
because of their irresponsible behaviors? Steele family, take responsibilities
for your actions. You can point any fingers you want at anyone and put
the mystery of guilt on someone else if you wish, but the bottom line
is, your unfounded claims, when I have a lot of witnesses who will say
otherwise, only make you look worse. There's plenty of room in this
industry for everyone. You stay on your side, I'll stay on mine, all
will be well. I wish you the best, sincerely."
..................................
Luke: "What's the most meaningful sex you've had in the industry, aside
from with your spouse?"
Kelly to Hamilton: "You did go on about Elizabeth Delmar for a long
time."
Hamilton: "She's the first blonde that I've liked."
A blush creeps over Hamilton's face and down to his neck and chest.
Kelly laughs.
Hamilton: "I worked with her once in the video Too Young For You. Personally,
I am not into children. I am into women. She's got some hips on her.
Women don't become interesting to me until they hit that age of 25-40.
"I'm not into the corruption thing. I've got more confidence in my abilities
than to take some inexperienced thing and try to ram it through her
skull.
"Elizabeth Delmar was in her early 20s. I don't what it was about her
that clicked. I only did one scene with her and I really enjoyed it.
I want to do a whole bunch more with her."
Kelly: "I want to do Holly Hollywood."
Hamilton: "Don't we all?"
Hamilton denies that he's anti-American. He says he's anti-stupidity.
Hamilton: "I keep hearing all these idiots say there's no money in the
adult industry. Then why are you doing it?"
Luke: "Because they believe in it?"
Hamilton: "I know you're good friends with Rob Spallone. You write everything
he says. He's the first one screaming that this industry has no money.
If the industry is as bad as he claims, and all the girls are strung
out on crack, and he's only hiring them at the beginning of the month
and the end of the month, when their rent comes due, because he can
get them cheap, why's he still in it?"
Luke: "As a public service?"
Kelly: "Rob doesn't like to mix with the girls. He's clear on that.
He thinks all the women are nothing but dirty filthy trash. I'm sure
he's wonderful with his wife because of that, but... I've never worked
for the man and it's because he has that attitude. I have a lot of self
respect. I do what I do because I believe in it."
Hamilton: "I think Rob Spallone is a persona and a character and he
does this because this is what draws attention to himself."
Mutt
writes on GFY: "Porn industry isn't friendly to anybody, he's got
to be on something to believe that the porn biz should or will ever
care about the children of porners. For cryin out loud, the girls the
industry feeds off are children, legal age, but still children."
DUC says: I think pornographers should start up their own child care
industry as a way of dealing with these recessionary times, what with
VISA's new 1% chargeback rule and everything.
Hamilton Steele writes on GFY: Perhaps its just me but I feel the point
was missed. I'm not getting involved in the controversy of are 18 year
old girls children or adults.
What I am stating is that many of the performers, directors, etc. have
children and when you do porn it can be like a fart in a small room.
"Everyone gets a smell."
In this industry we have the following:
We have things that protect the adults when problems arise.
(IE: P.A.W.)
We have things that protect the general public and the industry's health.
(IE: A.I.M.)
sh-t we even have things that protect our rights to say whatever we
want.
(IE: Free Speach collition)
But what do we have in place for the protection and well being for those
who depend on the people that earn a living from this industry and are
unable to do a thing for themselves?
The answer is nothing... Not a damn thing. It seems to me that these
are the people that need it the most.
Not even a damn safe place a parent can drop off their child while they
are working.
Can you imagine what might happen when a seven year old slips up and
mentions that his mother does porn? Or how about when a parent drops
his child off and one of the other parents recognize them? This can
easily go from a simple "un-easy" atmosphere to Child Protective Services
stepping in and taking away someone's kids.
Something needs to be in place. Right now I'm in the process of research
and brainstorming on how to do this. If someone wants to or can be of
assistance please contact me. Even if its for no other reason than to
say you support this.
Hamilton Steele
HamiltonSteele@lycos.com
PS> I know many girls that flake because they can't get suitable
childcare... Perhaps this might help with that problem.
PeerPatrick
writes on setgo.com:
Uhh I don't get the question, what the f@#$! anyway? That is just the
last of a long line of misguided quasi-rhetorical questions and topics
put out by DUC...wetblanket, closed-eye, myopic, kneeling on the soapbox
confessional of his own self-created guilt...poop-on-shoe twaddle!
I mean, just exactly how do you propose to make something like the Adult
industry, "more happier, healthier, friendlier" for the "CHILDREN"
Stifled images of a bloated Sally Strothers keep popping into my mind
as I question the point of this or any of DUC's morally driven posts.
Can someone shut him up plz?
Wait, here's the answer. Don't make the Industry friendlier or any of
that horse manure, keep it away from them till they are of legal age
and then let them make the decision. At 18, if they want to, e.g. watch
or be filmed with someone's hand in their rectum, great. End of story.
I don't mean to be harsh DUC but most of your posts are so pointedly
and blatantly self-righteous. I don't care for your literary style or
subject matter. This is not a personal attack against you or any of
your religious beliefs, except for those you like to push out like so
much excrement onto the boards. Btw whatever heaven you are going to,
im not interested in, is there another one for thinking folk?
Mar Mac writes on RAME: I read the article and was mistified how Hamilton
Steele decided that porn wasn't "child friendly" based on his sons death.
His son was an adult when he died and it appears like he and his Dad
didn't have much contact with
each other since he doesn't want to discuss him. He even mentions that
he only "acknowledges" him. In fact, Hamilton Steeles "career" in porn
doesn't seem to have been going back when his son was a child since
he was only 12 when he helped conceive him.
Having said that, having a porn career and children is a CHOICE that
women make and they have to live with those CHOICES. There are millions
of working mothers out there who face similar problems with day care
and such, so why should porn be any different. And, what can a child
say to a classmate who asks them, "Where does your Mom work?" There
is a lot of baggage involved with working in porn.
Hamilton Steele Comes Out As An Alcoholic
2003-09-19 14:18:37
Hamilton
Steele writes on www.insidethelair.com:
“Hamilton you have to go. I’m not going to let you out of this.”
She whispers her admonishment through clenched teeth, “You know you
can stop wasting everyone’s time and just leave. If you are determined
to f-ck things up for yourself then go and leave. Everyone else here
is serious about doing this.” My jaw tenses and I crack my knuckles.
After all I really don’t want to be here and I certainly can find better
things to do. So I stand up and turn to leave. Three steps and I stop.
I just can’t bring myself to leave. My racing mind holds me in place.
After a few heartbeats I become aware that the guy at the front of the
room is talking to me. “Hey buddy, is there something you care to share
with us.”
My eyes close tightly and I whisper, “f-ck” under my breath. The words
that sat like a rock in my throat painfully come to the surface and
out of my mouth. “Hi, my name is Hamilton, I’m an alcoholic and maybe
an addict too.”
DUC bets that the "Crystal" in the column is Hamilton's
wife Kelly, a fellow porn performer.
DUC gets Hamilton Steele
on the phone Friday afternoon, 9/19/03.
Luke: "What prompted you to write this column?"
Hamilton: "I'm really not too sure. I'm just taking one day at a time.
Things got out of control for me."
Luke: "Recently?"
Hamilton: "It's been a long time in coming. At this moment, I am 60
days clean and sober. I'm still pretty raw. I'm just working the steps
[of the 12 step Alcoholics Anonymous program]. Maybe writing the column
is therapeutic. Maybe it will help others. That's the best I can tell
you. Yep, I've got a problem."
Luke: "What made you realize you had a problem?"
Hamilton: "That I was hiding alcohol in the house. That I could lose
a lot of things that are really good in my life, and I did not want
to do that."
Luke: "Did your wife tell you..."
Hamilton: "We had a long talk. I love my wife. She said, Lookit. I'm
not going to stand over you but you better take a good look. There was
a lot of verbal wrestling. It went on for a few days. We didn't actually
fight. I knew. Who was I to lie to anybody? I've known I had a drinking
problem for some time. I'd think I was on top of it. That I could handle
the occasional drink. I'm the first one to admit that I am as f---ed
up as the next person in this industry. I'm just plained f---ed up.
I don't think that has much to do with the industry."
Luke: "What holes were you trying to fill in your soul that alcohol met?"
Hamilton: "What ones didn't it? Alcohol made everything good for me.
I won't lie. It's more than just alcohol. I saw I'm an alcoholic because
that's my drug of choice. I like the taste of alcohol. It gives me the
ability to forget. It stops me from being scared."
Luke: "Is there any step in the 12-step program you find particularly
difficult?"
Hamilton: "Yeah, [number] one."
Luke: "Admitting you have a problem."
Hamilton: "Yeah. I'm right at the beginning of all this. I feel stupid
and foolish. I've been rock bottom before and I don't want to go back
to that place. I've got a good life now and I don't want to f--- that
up. I want to take control of this. But I can't take control of it.
That's why I'm here [at AA]. It's a disease that's consuming me."
Luke: "What sort of reactions have you had to your column?"
Hamilton: "I don't know. I'm removing me myself from the loop. I'm not
following any of the websites.
"Right now the craving [for alcohol] is through the roof. I guess I
drink when things aren't going right. When I'm scared. I drink for a
1001 reasons. If alcohol wasn't around at one of these times, I would
probably do it too."
Luke: "I won't torture you anymore."
Hamilton: "I'm working.
"My articles on Insidethelair.com are not just about the industry. I
titled my latest one 'Hammy's Head.' It was an idea from that old TV
show Herman's Head where there were all these different people living
inside of him. I sat down and decided that I wanted to write what was
going on inside my head. On any given day, there are a thousand thoughts.
Often, what you say in life is not what you are thinking."
Hamilton emails 12/23/06:
My wife owns several properties
in the UK and conducts business from there. But I am not in england
and I avoid association with all anglophone cultures. When we get
together it is off the coast and whenever she is shooting on location.
My involvement in the porn industry is negligable and only through
Kelly. I have long since found my way in life and retired as a result
thereof.
None of my affairs have anything to do with the porn industry. So
if anyone has questions, comments, concerns or anything else involving
smut I ask they contact my wife. She was my suitcase pimp in L.A.
and has always been the one that called the shots in all porn or sex
industry endevours. When it comes to such matters I have always done
and said what she tells me.
The majority of my time is spent on my boat. BUT we are not seperated,
getting divorced or having marital problems. My wife has specific
goals she wants to accomplish and I support her decisions. I am a
grandfather raising my deceased son's child and unfortunately I do
not have niether the time nor patience to share this path with her.
She walks it alone.