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Adam Redford Calls

2:57pm. 5/19/05. "This is Lars. Adam Redford. The guy Craig Valentine is libeling all over the place."

Duke: "He said you took his wife out on a boat and tried to stick a fish up her vagina?"

Adam: "Total lie. He was there. It was a boy-girl shoot. She was catching fish while we were having sex. There was no attempt to put any fish in her vagina."

Duke: "Did he ever pull a gun on you?"

Adam: "He never pulled a gun on me. He wouldn't have the nerve to pull a gun on me.

"The disarming incident. They weren't married at the time. Every time someone went on a shoot with me, he was there. At the end of both days, the two of them were happy, well-paid, and there were no problems. They took pictures from the airboat ride and used them as promotional things in their booth.

"They have pictures of her standing in the snake booth pouring water over herself out on the Everglades.

"This whole thing stems from a picky little beef which happened much later. She wanted me to give her my videos at a price below cost. I was willing to give her wholesale but not go below cost. She wasn't even in the video. Eversince then, they have backstabbed me at every possible opportunity. I've just let it go because everybody here in South Florida gets the same treatment from them. If you talk to the other producers, PhotoGregg, ZMaster, IcyPorn, I could go on and on.

"I'm involved in a furor about the hunting of a buffalo. He sees some opportunity to jump on the bandwagon and make up some outrageous lies."

Duke: "Did you stick an oar in a woman's vagina so that she got splinters and had to go to the hospital?"

Adam: "No. That's a lie. There was not even an oar on the boat with that particular woman."

Duke: "Has any woman got injured on any of your shoots so she had to go to the hospital?"

Adam: "No. That never happened."

Duke: "How have you reacted to all this furor and AVN editorial?"

Adam: "I just went off on YNOTradio.com two hours ago. They had Al Goldstein, Heidi Fleiss and me.

"I replied to Mike Ramone at AVN in a written statement: That we broke no laws. Yes, there was a sex scene done after the kill of a buffalo. The buffalo was killed in a completely legal hunt. The buffalo is not an endangered species. The buffalo was killed in a humane way according to all game laws. The sex scene was a normal boy-girl scene. There was no bestiality."

Duke: "Were you surprised by the furor?"

Adam: "Not really. It wasn't my plan to create the furor. I used to live in California. I know that there are a lot of animal rightists there. It doesn't surprise me that the head honchos at AVN are animal rightists. They have reacted that we are going to self-police porn because we think that this gives porn a bad name.

"That's clearly an infringement on the First Amendment. The government has nothing to say on the legality of my video. These are the personal views of a lot of people at AVN and in the porn community in Southern California reacting to something that is new and shocking to their sensibility.

"In my view, there's nothing illegal or immoral about it. That's the way I choose to express my art.

"For people to say that we are going to try to shut you down. That's saying that us pornographers are going to try to go against the First Amendment, us AVN people, who every issue have all sorts of gushing reviews about double anal and all kinds of wild LA-style porn. That's ok. But if you have sex with a dead animal in the background, that's going too far."

I read back to Adam some of Craig's accusations.

Adam: "It is true that while we were out there, we caught a small alligator. I have a picture of her holding a small alligator. There's a trick you can do with a small alligator where you turn him on his back, rub his belly, and he goes to sleep.

"It did not harm her in any way. Craig was sitting there watching the whole thing from 15-feet away, laughing about it and egging her on. 'Don't worry honey. He won't bite you.'

"Disarming him. On that shoot, he came to the boat carrying a 9mm. Being a city boy, he thought that going out into the Everglades with me and this redneck who owned the airboat, he probably felt afraid. No one else had any gun. He started to brag about the gun. I said, hey, we are going out into a wild life preserve. It's not hunting season. You'll have to leave the gun in the car. He did. And that was the disarming incident."

Duke: "Did you send emails where you wanted to book Summer for a shoot where you sliced the throat of a pig and had sex with her while the pig ran around dying, smearing blood all over her?"

Adam: "No. We have done several shoots that involved the killing of pigs. We've never allowed a pig to suffer. We kill them in the quickest, most humane way possible."

Duke: "Did any of your girls in any of your shoots get attacked by a snake?"

Adam: "No. A poisonous snake has never even been seen on one of my expeditions. I've never caught one and displayed one. I've discussed that idea where a girl would interact with a snake. I discussed that with Summer Haze and others. It's never been done."

Duke: "Craig says you left a five-year-old kid on the shore by himself while you had sex in a boat with his mother?"

Adam: "No. Never. I've never allowed a kid on any of my sets. And leaving him on the floor? No.

"Craig lives in this imaginary world where he envisions he has these macho showdowns. In real life, he cowers and hides away."

Duke: "How did AVN treat you when you called them?"

Adam: "I did not call AVN because AVN launched into me without any attempt to contact me first. I felt betrayed. The same guy, Mike Ramone, who's written all this stuff against me, is the same guy I submitted my first video to -- Nude Erotic Fishing 1. He delegated the review and gave it three-and-a-half stars. There were scenes in there that were bloody. The killing of a shark. When you bring a shark into a boat, you have to kill it or it will chomp on your feet. The shark was eaten."

Duke: "What they condemn now they wrote glowingly about 18-months ago."

Adam: "I don't expect everybody to love this fetish. The internet allows a small group of people scattered around the globe to satisfy their fantasies. I don't agree necessarily with everything that my customers like. However, I check the laws carefully (cruelty to animals, bestiality, hunting, fishing). I know the ethics that go behind the law. There's no law against an animal running around dying slowly, but we don't permit that. It's put down as quickly as we can do it."

Duke: "How often does someone end up eating the animal?"

Adam: "One hundred percent."

Duke: "Then there is no difference between this and eating meat you buy in a store."

Adam: "I know. But suburban 21-Century people are not in tune with that.

"Before we take girls out on hunts with a wild animal, we give them tests. Daisy Duxx and Ashley Gracie were given situations where animals were killed in a controlled situation. We could see whether they were emotionally able to handle the situation. In Ashley's case, it was a billy goat that has been the subject of all the criticism. The billy goat was old, had a large tumor and a broken hip. The owners had planned to put him down anyway. The place was like an open-air zoo. I brought in Ashley. She tried. She did not do well. He had to be finished off. She said, this is not for me. We said, fine Ashley. Here's your money for today. Thank you for coming out. We appreciate your efforts. We realize it is not for everybody.

"The test for Daisy was that she had to kill a chicken. The minute that chicken was dead, and it died quickly, we plucked it and threw it in a pot and ate it for dinner and it was delicious.

"Somebody who grows up in Coral Gables or Miami or LA is never exposed to the things normal people take for granted -- hunting and killing animals on the farm for meat. Just the concept of that drives people nuts. That's their hangups. Not mine.

"The fetish people I have are into it. We don't torture anything. We don't break laws. We kill stuff. The girls are naked. We may have sex afterwards.

"If you think about the history of the human race, we've only been civilized and not hunting for about 5,000 years of the 500,000 years we've been around. For a lot of that time, there was definitely something erotic about a nice fresh carcass of meat. It got you a lot more pussy back in those days than a fat bank account and a Mercedes.

"I've been a hunter and a fisherman all my life. I've hunted animals all over the US, Canada and Africa. Now I got into porn and decided to combine the two [interests]. I did some homework before I did this.

"I didn't seek to release it upon the Southern California scene. It was a screw-up. Eli should've briefed the girls not to discuss but discuss it they did. The cat got out of the bag. It's a tempest in a teapot. It comes down to an emotional issue. Some people hate hunting and some people don't.

"I realize what the format of the boards is. Anyone can say what they want. I kept a copy of what Craig said. I'll have some attorneys take a look at whether or not he libeled me and make a judgment about whether or not it is worth my while to do anything about it.

"Regardless of this, Craig for years now has been badmouthing me and stabbing me in the back, as he has numerous other people in the industry. If this is the incident that it takes to put a stop to it, that's what I'll do."