On Set With Nautica Thorn, Avy Lee Roth, Denis Marti
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4/26/05
I drive to Denis Marti's LFP set in Bel Aire (at Giorgio's house).
He looks like a soccer player.
"Everything I say can be used against me, right?" he laughs.
Nautica Thorn smokes a cigarette while we chat.
Denis grew up in Sardegna, an island off Italy. Three years ago, he moved to Prague.
Duke: "When you were a kid, what did you want to be when you grew up?"
Denis: "Many things. Like every Italian, a soccer player. Then I wanted to be a writer. I studied literature at a university [got a degree in English and Spanish literature]. Then I realized that I was not a good writer."
Denis speaks Italian, Sardegnian, Spanish, Czech and English.
Duke: "What did your family expect from you?"
Denis: "They expected something like a university career.
"My father works in a factory as a department manager and my mother directs a professional school.
"I have a younger sister."
Duke: "Have you gotten her into the industry?"
Denis: "Oh no. Why would I?"
Duke: "Have you tried to talk her into it?"
Denis: "No."
Duke: "Would you direct her in a scene?"
Denis: "No."
Duke: "Would you work with her in a scene?"
Denis: "No."
He laughs. "I'm a normal boy. I have nothing against it. It's her life. I'm not like, 'Oh, she's girl. Therefore, she can not do it.' She has her job."
Duke: "Do you think there's something wrong with incest?"
Denis: "Yeah."
Duke: "How did you get into the porn industry?"
Denis: "I met this girl in Rome about six years ago. We had a one-night stand. She turned out to be working for a [porn] production company in Italy (ETM, the distributors of Rocco Siffredi's movies). She said they were casting for guys and asked me if I wanted to check it out. I was curious. I checked it out.
"The guys were all having a hard time doing the scene. I was like, this must be terrible. I don't want to do this.
"I was not there to do it. I was just there to see.
"At the end of the day, they said, it's your turn. I said, I'm not here for the casting. They said, come on. Try it. Don't be shy.
"I did it. It was easier than I thought. Then they started calling me..."
Duke: "What were you doing before you got into porn?"
Denis: "I was a publishing advisor. I was reading new novels and poetry."
Avy Lee Roth walks up. "Take those pictures off your website," she commands. "I look awful."
Duke: "I'll take new ones."
Avy: "I liked the interview. You printed every word I said."
Denis has done over 1,000 sex scenes (about 40 in America).
Duke: "What do you love and what do you hate about your work?"
Denis: "I love the freedom, especially now that I'm directing. I have control of the production. I hate that the relationships between people are sometimes superficial. That happens everywhere. When you work with people, sometimes it's just work and you don't go deeper. It's difficult to have a sentimental [romantic] relationship when you do this."
Duke: "Do you mainly date people inside or outside of the industry?"
Denis: "Mainly outside."
Duke: "How do they feel about your work?"
Denis: "They accept it. But deep inside they don't like it."
Duke: "Do you have trouble sustaining a relationship for long?"
Denis: "It becomes difficult. Relationships are difficult regardless of what you do. It's not like it makes me crazy. I'm happy with my life."
Denis says he's never been married and has no children. He's never dated a porn star for long. "It's never happened. I don't know. Maybe they don't like me?"
He laughs.
Duke: "Could you give me a psychological profile of the type of girl who works in porn?"
Denis: "I don't think there is one. Every person is different."
Duke: "How does your family feel about your work?"
Denis: "They would prefer I was doing something else."
Duke: "What pays better? Doing pornography or reading poetry?"
Denis laughs and tosses off a latin phrase that poetry does not provide bread.
Duke: "Do you still write poetry?"
Denis: "Yes. That's one of the things I like most about this job -- it gives me time..."
When he was younger, he published in some literary magazines in Italy.
Duke: "When are you going to come out with your first book of poetry?"
Denis: "When my dick stops working."
Marti writes poetry in Italian, Sardegnian and Spanish.
Duke: "Which poets would you compare your style to?"
Denis: "Pablo Neruda. His appreciation of the beauty of nature, and that includes women."
When I compared Marti's body of work to Neruda, I noticed a stunning similarity -- they had both produced a lot.
Pablo's collection España en el Corazón reminds me of Denis's masterpiece 2 Dicks In 1 Chick #5.
Marti reads Neruda in the original while I cannot, despite taking Spanish for three years in school.
Nautica tells Denis he has soft hands. "I haven't worked a day in my life," he says. "I went from studying to porn."
Denis tells Nautica and Avy that the most important thing for them to remember while doing their scene with him is "eye contact" (presumably with the camera).
Nautica has been in porn since late 2002 and done over 100 movies.
She's half Japanese, a quarter Puerto-Rican and a quarter Hawaiin.
She finds out that Denis is not circumsized. "I have a hard time," she confesses. "Maybe it was just that guy."
Giorgio walks into the kitchen holding a DVD. He asks to come with him to watch his movie The Passion of the Reefer.
"It's a porn?" Nautica asks.
"No," he says.
"It's not a porn?" she asks.
"No."
We follow him into the livingroom.
A topless Wally Wharton, attired like an angel, dances in the company logo.
Denis says he doesn't write any poetry dedicated to porn girls.
Duke: "Do you do double-anal?"
Marti looks at me.
Duke: "You know. Rub your dick against another guy's dick while you're both inside her anus."
Marti: "A few times."
Duke: "Do you prefer to rub your penis against another guy's penis or rubbing it [alone] inside a woman?"
Denis: "Inside a woman."
The credits roll. I read "Michael Esposito as Donnie Motherf---er."
This is a reference to the Esposito of Gentlemen's Video who buys a banner ad above. This Esposito is not in the movie but the movie's director, Jeff Coldwater, hates Michael and named a character with Tourettes Syndrome after him.
Giorgio shows us his favorite scenes. One closes with two guys driving off into a setting sun that dips below the horizon. "Not bad for porno people," he says.
He forwards through the scene selection. "I want to show you the scene with me."
Denis, Nautica and I are his couch captives.
"This scene is shot in film," Giorgio narrates. "Super-16. Can you see the difference?"
Denis, Nautica and I flee to the changing room. Avy has a suitcase filled with lingerie, most of which she doesn't want to wear. Holding up some red stuff, Avy says it makes her look too fat. Other stuff is too old. Other stuff she's worn before and she doesn't want fans feeling ripped off seeing her on one boxcover in an outfit that she uses again in today's scene.
I know many fans lose their boner when that happens.
"I don't want the fans to say Avy Lee Roth only has one dress for movies," she says.
Each outfit that Nautica lifts up, Avy says it is "old, old, old."
Next pair of lingerie, she says: "No! They make me look bad."
Denis: "Then why do you have them in your bag?"
Avy: "They make my ass look big."
Denis: "That means they make you look like girls."
Nautica: "It makes you look like a woman.
"It makes you look like a whore. A professional whore. Not a low-class whore."
Avy didn't bring a copy of her HIV-test. This causes 25-minutes of phone calling until one of Avy's three agents faxes it to the set.
Nautica has cool-looking Marlboro cigarettes for girls and brings us outside for a drag.
Duke to Nautica: "When you were a kid, what did you want to be when you grew up?"
Nautica: "I wanted to be everything. I wanted to be a veterinarian but when I saw my dogs get their first shot, I couldn't do it. I can't poke people.
"I grew up in Hawaii."
Duke: "What kind of crowd did you grow up with in America?"
Nautica: "The really bad ones that like to watch porn and smoke weed and drink instead of going to school 'cause school sucks. School is for losers."
She starts giggling.
Duke: "What kind of student were you?"
Nautica: "A really good one. I got As until [9th grade] I met a bunch of friends and we hung out at my place and cooked breakfast and watched Asia Carrera."
Duke: "Did you graduate highschool?"
Nautica: "No. I moved out here."
Duke: "How did you get into porn?"
Nautica: "I was a dancer (at the Body Shop on Sunset Blvd and Cheetahs in Las Vegas). I graduated to doing porn. I'm a high-class whore."
Duke: "What do you love and hate about the porn industry?"
Nautica: "I love all the new cocks and hate all the old ones."
Duke: "What else?"
Nautica: "I like just having sex. I think I'm a nympho. My boyfriend of four years, we just broke up, we had sex every day."
Duke: "Did he know you were doing porn?"
Nautica giggles: "He kinda found out."
Duke: "How?"
Nautica: "I told him I was sucking dick. He's like, oh, ok. I hope you're getting paid for it."
Duke: "Why did you guys break up?"
Nautica: "I was f---ing around on him. I thought we might as well break-up."
Nautica still lives with and fornicates with this guy she broke up with.
What kind of breaking up is that?
"The kind that I can go and have other cocks."
Don't you do that anyway?
"Yeah. Technically, I guess we're still together."
Don't you get enough sex at work? Why must you have more?
"Because I'm different off-camera. I'm very sensual."
As opposed to on-camera, when you are un-sensual?
"I'm much more of a whore."
Avy Lee Roth drags on her cigarette. "I can't believe I'm getting so old."
She's 25. "Since I got married, I've become an old lady."
I drive to Mulholland Drive and Rob Spallone's Bang My Tight White Ass set.
I meet Mallory Knox, who's just finished her first scene with Silvio. It's the second scene of the day. It is 12:50pm.
Rob Spallone calls director Ron Sullivan and tells him to tell me not to write anything bad.
Production manager Kenny Carolina tells me: "You might as well leave."
The shooting house overlooks the San Fernando Valley and is owned by Ariel, the distributor.
Mallory and I walk out by the pool and do an interview.
She and her boyfriend Mickey live in Florida. They first got into porn eight years ago.
"I was a dancer on stage," she remembers. "Peter North came up to me and asked if I wanted to be in a movie.
"I used to do it for fun with the dancing. Just once a year for extra money.
Mallory has only devoted herself full-time to XXX the past two months. Previously, she and Mickey (together ten years) did about ten scenes.
"The last year or so we've done some hardcore stuff. Him and I decided we were going to go fullbore and the last few months I've been....every dick..."
Duke: "When you guys getting married?"
Mallory: "We already consider each other married. The whole reason we got into this full-fledged is that we want to save money for our wedding. As soon as we get enough money saved up, we'll set a date."
Duke: "When you were a kid, what did you want to be when you grew up?"
Mallory: "A fashion designer. I found I enjoyed modeling."
At age 21, she started stripping.
Duke: "What kind of student were you in highschool?"
Mallory: "College-prep."
Duke: "What kind of crowd did you hang with?"
Mallory: "A little bit of everyone. I wouldn't have sex with the guys at my school. They talked too much. They didn't stand a chance."
Duke: "How old were you when you lost your virginity?"
Mallory: "Twelve. The first time I posed nude was when I was 15."
Duke: "Who did you pose for?"
Mallory: "Some pervert off the street. He offered me $100 for 20-minutes. I went off on him. 'I'm not a hooker. Who the hell do you think you're talking to?' He said, no, no. I'm just going to take pictures.
"He took a roll of film and handed me $100. There was no sex involved."
Duke: "Were you traumatized by the experience?"
Mallory: "Not at all. I've never been a shy person."
Duke: "What do you love and hate about the porn industry?"
Mallory: "I love that everybody in the porn industry has a certain kind of attitude that you just don't find elsewhere. It makes you feel like you belong to something that is not always out there for everybody.
"What do I hate about it? Directors that schedule you for an anal shoot and then make you sit there and wait for five hours before they let you have anal. So if anyone hears me, always make the anal go first."
Duke: "You obviously have no problem doing interracial."
Mallory: "No."
Duke: "Were you always like that?"
Mallory: "No. Once I got into the business, it became obvious that 60-70% of the work is interracial. I don't look at it as a personal thing. I look at it as a job."
Duke: "What else do you love and hate about the business?"
Mallory: "I love my freedom and the money and that some day, someone will remember me."
Duke: "What are your ambitions?"
Mallory: "I've already paid off my house in Florida and I'm thinking of buying one out here.
"This is where I'm from. I haven't been here in ten years."
Duke: "How did your family and friends react to your becoming a porn star?"
Mallory: "My mom had a cow, only because she doesn't want me to get AIDS. I tell her everything. When I posed when I was 15, I told her about it. She was not happy about it but there wasn't anything that she could do.
"Now they're fine with it. They just think it's funny. I only have a handful of friends. I met them through the industry. Childhood friends I haven't seen since childhood. I can only imagine what they would say."
Duke: "What do you say when strangers ask you what you do for a living?"
Mallory: "I usually tell them I'm a porn star."
Duke: "Your big breasts scream porn star."
Mallory: "A little bit. If someone seems like they will be creepy when they find out I'm a porn star, I just tell them I'm a model. I've had people ask me to be an escort a million times."
Duke: "You don't do escorting?"
Mallory: "I tried it one time (six weeks ago). And the fricking escort service sent a cop to my room. The very first time. I said, it's not worth it to me.
"I got busted. I guess that usually the first time they just give you a ticket. I didn't even have sex with him. I didn't even ask him for money. He asked to see my tits. Then all the cops run in.
"I said, wait a minute here. I don't know what the escort service told him. I went off on them. 'I didn't do anything.' They said, 'That's what they all say.'
"I pissed them all off. The person in charge said, 'She's not getting OR (you sign yourself out). Let her sit in jail for two days.' It's not worth it. People say you are in and out in an hour and you make cash. I don't want to worry that someone is going to choke me out.
"Once in a while, I meet a director who wants to top this ass. I might give in but that's because I know they're in the industry."
The first scene was LT and Holly Wellin.
Urbano is shooting here at the same time.
