Monday, November 15th, 1999
John Decker Meets Nice Jewish Girl
Sunday night, Nice Jewish Girl was angling to meet her lust hero, John Decker. NJG writes to the porn stud:
Dear Mr. Decker:
I met your ex-wife Roxanne Hall last night at PST (porn star trading). She was very nice. I told her I had a "crush" of sorts on you and would like to interview you. I am friends with Luke F-rd, I am a real girl and not affiliated with porn at all. I know Luke e-mailed you because I asked him too, but when I asked him what he said I was disappointed so I thought I'd take it upon myself to e-mail you. Roxanne was kind enough to supply me with your e-mail when I told her that I would like to interview you. If you are curious as to who I am Luke has actually listed me on his site now under "stars" under G for girl, Nice Jewish Girl. Luke has only told me nice things about you and that you are an intelligent person. So, if this is acceptable, I would really like to interview you. I interviewed J.D. Considine for Luke, and Kendra Jade, James DiGiorgio and Brad from Dangerboy. Kendra Jade and I have become good friends from our interview as a matter of fact.
The NJG: so, I am anxious Luke!! I have to pee!
The NJG: lukey, what's happening? I am getting tired!
The NJG: look if he doesn't want to talk to me, ok!
The NJG: f--- luke, I am sleepy!
Luke: Around 9:30 PM, Luke arranged a threeway telephone conversation between NJG and her lust object. It ran until 11:30 when Luke went to bed.
Luke in PST: "NJG is sucking on John's cock."
JackEvil: "Jealous Luke?"
Luke: "
NJG writes: "Luke, you are soooo jealous, you know it, otherwise you wouldn't have said that, you are SO POSSESSIVE!! LOL!! Anyways, John DID call me two minutes after we talked with you and we talked till 3:30 a.m., just me and him!! He is so cool! And handsome! The best looking str8 guy in porn. And he has a degree (not like us!). Oh I didn't go to work today because I was too tired from talking with John. I called and told them I was ill, and thank goodness, my sweet boss believed me. John is a very deep thinker and is very intelligent. I am impressed."
Kendra Jade Banned From PST
There was a "Tempest in a PST-Pot" (JD) when Diablo1504 last week banned Kendra Jade from IRC channel PornStar Trading. Kendra had told Nice Jewish Girl that she once went out with Diablo and he used to be in the army and is white, not black like he told NJG.
I hear that Kendra and Diablo were once lovers.
Brandy Alexandre writes Luke: "So, Diablo banned Kendra Jade PsT just for telling the truth? Yes, he did date her and definitely had sex with her. So many people in the industry knows this it's ridiculous to deny. Goes back to my original complaint that I was banned for no reason other than my presence caused another person to behave against the sacred rules, so instead of banning her for her hillbilly behavior I had to go. But that's their lame excuse. The real reason I had to go, and if you look in the archives this is confirmed by Mike South, is because of *my* alleged anti-free speah attitude from when I banned you, Luke, when you hadn't said anything--your mere presence annoyed me. Aye! There's the hypocrisy! They can do it to me, and now to Kendra, but it was a horrible sin for me to do it to you. It should be noted that you are permitted in any chat in which I am an op. What's PsT's excuse?"
Luke held a threeway call with Kendra and NJG Sunday night and we found out that Kendra was not allowed on PST. This caused a huge debate between Mike South, Jim Gunn, James DiGiorgio and company. Mike insisted that PST's constitution be followed along the lines of "original intent of the founding fathers" while all the other porners, particularly Gunn, thought the sacred document should be more flexible and change with the times.
The beginnings of trouble between Kendra and PST stretch back several times to an instance when Jade called PST favorite Roxanne Hall a "cunt." Operator VideoEd then banned Jade for months. Jade recently resurfaced on PST as reported exclusively on l-keford.com five days ago.
Luke experienced the groundbreaking moment live with Kendra who was sure that she was banned. She wasn't, and broke through on to PST for about 40 minutes of graceful banter.
Jade felt tired Sunday night. She has lots of washing to do Monday. She'd just returned from "shaking my ass in Michigan for a bunch of drunk guys."
Constitutional stickler Mike South, fresh from brawling about ATM fees with NJG, said: "Videoed owns the channel and has proven himself fair and beyond reproach.
"I seem to remember that Kendra got banned for continuously leaving saying 'f--- you guys I am never coming back.'"
"When he's sober," adds DiGiorgio.
Gunn: "It sounds like a bunch of bs, i really don't have any stake in Kendra being here, I just have a "hunch" that this is all bs."
Delaney Daniels: "I don't think that because of "pornstar" status anyone should have a right to come in and be an ass, simply because they without threat of being banned ( not saying anything about KJ, I don't know the story there~Just adressing banning pornstars in general).
James DiGiorgio: "You dealing with a dyed-in-the-wool anti-establishment type here (with me) so the whole OP concept i'm not too keen on.... all im sayin is, if i would pick one op who shouldnt be involved in the banning of KJ, or BT or some others..it'd be diablo...and i like diab..but that's my opinion.
"I love a good catfight...so her calling roxanne a cunt, in my opinion...is entertainment."
Future Porn Stars
"MarMac" wrote: >As we come to the end of the year (and the millenium) who do you guys look >for to break out as the next superstar of porn for 2000? I have a few that I >think are poised:
Pat Riley: If you mean by "superstar" someone like Jenna then you're barking up the wrong tree. None of these girls have the requisite plasticized look nor the obligatory cement-filled boobs although the latter can be remedied.
>1. Aspen Brock - very beautiful and vulnerable looking girl next door type.
PR: Beautiful? Don't think so. Vulnerable, neither. Didn't we vote her the porn star most likely to commit suicide?
>2. Sky - very iffy now that she is with Vivid. Still generates a lot of >heat. Party girl extrordinaire!
PR: If "party girl" means used up, you're right. I understand she already has two kids.
>3. Vivi Anne - I think this girl is going to be one of the BIG stars of >tomorrow. A real dynamo!
PR: A big weight problem leading me to think that she was pregnant in one movie. She won't screw anyone other than J.J. Michaels, her husband.
>4. Alison Kilgore - she needs to find the right genre. Perhaps Seymore could >help her out!
PR: Wasn't she 14 weeks pregnant a month or so ago? Pumping out another to add to her already existing litter of two. Another one who has a weight problem and, although she has cantaloupes they're not big or rigid enough to make her a superstar.
>5. Bridgette Kerkove - I think she if on the verge of breaking out! Very >good in Gang Bang Angels #5
PR: Nice little body but an ugly face especially with her bee-stung lips. Have you seen her taste in men (Skeeter)? Besides, after all those guys in GBA #5, she's doubtless brimming with viruses, bacteria, and parasites. As an aside, the best thing about GBA #5 was the extensive "filming of" footage that followed the end credits. That's "best thing" in terms of most interesting; it removed any shred of eroticism from the movie itself. All those parolees standing around trying to keep hard and Bridgette's little problems with Mexican food. The clothed girl who watched the proceedings and joked with the guys was prettier than Bridgette. Anyone know who she was?
>6. Anastasia Blue - this girl will probably be the Mila of the next >millenium. She can get nasty!
PR: Yeah, she sure can. Just what I like associating with in my dreams: nasty people.
Meeting in Torah
Jews from all of the three major Judaic movements (Reform, Conservative and Orthodox) will study Torah together on Monday, November 15 across America. In Los Angeles, Jews will meet at 1950 Sawtelle Blvd at 7:30 PM. The topic is "Torah and Turkey: Spiritual Preparations For Thanksgiving... About being Jewish and American." Join Luke as he studies sacred texts and tries to pick up chix. That female rabbi who spoke at Temple Sinai Friday night was really cute and she maybe enough to bring me back from the dark side. Email Luke tips on seducing brunette liberal Conservative female rabbis.
Rumdar writes: "Luke..Welcome back. It is great to have You, N.J.G. and Kendra on one page again. As for banging brunette, liberal or conservative female Rabbis. Well, let us not forget that whatever the political affiliation these are still Jewish women. I suggest spending lots of money. Don't leave home without your credit card."
Did anyone see the following program on the History channel in August? "FBI: The Untold Stories: SULTAN OF SMUT (Dramatization) Atlanta was America's porn capital in the 1970s, and Michael Thevis was the kingpin. Though suspected of murder, arson, and extortion, he paid his way out of jail and ordered a hit on his former right-hand man and FBI star witness. After threatening an FBI agent, he's put on the 10 Most Wanted List."
Does Tennessee porner Mike Skokolo = Mike Thevis Jr? A Mike Skokolo owns a bunch of stores up there (TN) and a 421 Corp based in Atlanta.... The 421 is almost certainly a shell and Skokolo has GOT to be a fictitious name. I know that Thevis Jr has had conversations and dealings with Michael Morrison. I also know that Morrison has tried to buy VCA on a couple of occasions. I do know that Skokolo is NOT Michael Morrison...or at least the guy who claims to be Skokolo is not.
Brandy Alexandre on Extra
Tabloid TV show Extra interviewed retired porn star Brandy Alexandre at her apartment Friday about her recent loss of job at Forest Lawn Memorial Parks.
"They were over here for hours," says Brandy. "I gave them so much stuff that I'm concerned they are just going to focus on porno.
"We shot the full interview about what happened. I was interviewed by Phil Shuman. Then we did some stuff over on my computer. Had my resume on screen and showed me typing. And then my website. We showed the credit roll for "Best Butt in the West," produced and directed by Brandy Alexandre. And I pulled out a whole box of my movies.
"After they left, I started thinking, 'they've got my computer website, my porn tape Best Butt, my porn collection... I think I gave them a bit too much on that side. They might just start out with all of that and say porn, porn, porn, porn... And then to Phil Shuman's question, 'don't they have a right to be concerned about their image?' It could turn out really bad. I'm worried about it.
"They seemed like friends. One of the grips that was here worked with Patti Rhodes on "Rainwoman," when I was a PA (production assistant). The camera guy was very friendly and the producer, a woman, was a doll. She thought it was all great. She took some movies with her. They're going to use a clip or two. She said, 'oh gosh, can I borrow these? For my husband?'
"Off camera they asked if I had pursued a lawsuit, and I said I had spoken to Gloria Allred's firm but they turned it down.
"I don't know what to think. It is going to air sometime this week."
Luke: "Just because they were nice, that doesn't mean anything. I'm nice to people too."
Brandy: "Yeah, and then you stab them in the back.
"I told the Extra crew before Phil Shuman came that when we do the reverse and the camera is on him: Several years ago.... You know I write a lot of complaint letters. I was writing too many of them so I had to balance them by doing something nice for someone else. I picked Phil Shuman when he was working for NBC News. And I sent secret admirer cards and left secret friend messages on his voicemail... So I told him on camera, 'years ago you received cards and messages from me... I was your secret admirer.' He seemed worried but when I explained why, that it was to counterbalance my complaints to other people, he found it funny."
Luke has made an appointment to interview Keisha on Friday.
Today "Chaim Amalek" is a quiet New Yorker in good standing living in middle class obscurity on Manhattan's famed Upper West Side. Neither his manner of dress, appearance, nor his mien indicate that he is anything other than a typical Upper West Sider. He buys his bagels at H&H Bagels, his pastrami at Zabars, and his books at Barnes and Noble. He occasionally attends lecture at Columbia or the New School, and looks forward to the day when Hilary Clinton is his senator, people of color are no longer oppressed, and abortion is free for those who need it. Yet in the early 1980's, Chaim (working under a professional name that I have promised not to reveal) achieved a brief but intense level of fame among the elite of porn for his artistic vision and skill, and on both sides of the camera.
Chaim was a victim of his own success. So effective was his work with the starlets of the day, that each film was thought to be the zenith of what could be achieved with her, a standard that could never be equaled, let alone surpassed. Consequently, every woman he chose to work with felt no point in continueing in the field and retired. Very quickly, Chaim began depleting the pool of desirable actresses and suppressing demand, as his few films were sufficient for the libraries of all but the most jaded and dissolute of viewers. This state of affairs was very troubling to the forces then (and now) in control of porn, who made it very clear that he could either retire to obscurity or to the bottom of the East River. Chaim chose the former.
Today, he is an occasional contributor to the Luke F-rd website, offering Luke his spiritual guidance on issues that every Jew must contend with in life. A small sample of his personal correspondense with Luke follows.
Reb Shimon Saadi writes: "Everything that I and others write to you is the ultimate bit of mental Onanism. We write this strictly for ourselves, knowing that virtually no one actually goes to your web site to read this stuff. Instead, they direct their browsers to l-keford.com to read about whichever woman they jerked off to the other day. A sad state of affairs."
Fred writes: "Your friend, Mr. Amalek made an odd joke about your becoming a Satmar. (As you know, they are an extremely orthodox Hassidic sect.) Hassidic sects tend to get their name from the city in Eastern Europen from which they originate. According to a Wall Street Journal article on the Satmars a number of years ago, the Satmars get their name from the city of Satmar in Romania. The word "Satmar", in Romanian, means Saint Mary. Thus, one of the most rigidly orthodox Hassidic sects is actually named after Saint Mary. Strange but true.
"Here's one piece of advice for courting the reform rabbi: don't tell her about your web site. No reform rabbi could possibly be that reform."
David Aaron Clark writes: "A flood of cheap, cookie-cutter bulls--- featuring a sorry crew of girls -- it's nice to see that it's not just the saner folks on this side of the camera who are depressed and alarmed by the lack of attractive and enthusiastic girls in the business at this point. I'm not going to speculate on the reason for the terrible lack of talent coming into the SoCal porn biz at this point (that's another thread), but there's no doubt it's a major problem."
Chosen1446 writes: "I saw a guy post that Cassidy had the biggest butt, and I saw another guy on Luke F-rd say Cassidy maybe had the greatest ass he'd ever seen. A lot of the actors she worked with liked her too. I think she only dances now topless, although according to the Internet Movie Database, she made a few recent movies. If she doesn't come out of retirement, can't you just put her in your mags? Monopolize her ass please like Gent? Did with Susie Sparks, and create a fan club. I personally think her best movie was "Buttman vs. Buttwoman" because of the long exposure time. One can truly appreciate her butt size from watching the movie. But, now theres another fake Cassidy pornstar so understand who I'm talking about."
XXX: "It's still biz as usual at American Arts, Parliament News...sans the late Paul Wisner. Like most of the porn biz, clear ownership of companies is unclear."
Porner says: "Craig Vasiloff is an idiot. He goes into Porn Star Trading like a f---ing pimp, trying to get everybody to write for his f---ing magazine. That guy from Capitol News had to set him straight that there's no need for any more adult magazines. But Craig claims, 'Ours isn't porno. Everyone is going to want to buy this because it's new. It's Maxim meets adult entertainment. And notice how he tries to hit up the distributor. Craig was like a kid. And the guy was like, oh yeah, I'll be in touch. And Jew porner Steve Hirsch says, I've never heard of you. I think you're full of s---. And I recall you getting a helluva lot of nude shots... And then Craig boasts about that Serenity layout in issue two. Sounds like a porno mag to me."
Lynne L-patin phoned at 12:30PM: "Everybody's nice. No fear, no paranoia, no valium."
Luke: "Then you should get back into the adult magazine business."
Lynne: "If I had a magazine right now, I'd compete with AVN. AVN is always three months late.
"Your friend Craig is an internet designer. Why would he want to do something as archaic as a magazine when he has the technology to do the internet?"
Luke: "He thinks a magazine is more prestigious."
Lynne: "A porno magazine? Come on. A porno magazine is more prestigious than what? Some people jack off in the bathroom, and they don't have internet access. We used to say, 'why buy a magazine when you could buy a video?' Because you can take a magazine in the bathroom. That's where you jack off, right?
"I thought David [Sturman] was shy. What does his wife do while he sits there and plays porno with you?"
Luke: "Raises the three kids. Much of her family works for David."
Lynne: "So he spends all day playing with the computer?"
Luke: "No, he works hard."
Lynne: "That's mandatory... But does he have a job?"
Luke: "Yeah, he runs GVA West."
Lynne: "That's been on autopilot for 20 years. So he works out, comes into his office, buys suits and types sex on the computer? What a life.
"What do you think of me doing phone sex?"
Luke: "You could do that."
Lynne: "They offered me a job right before Bruce got sick with cancer... They always need people to do that... I want to concentrate on keeping the house because good living space is hard to find.
"I've seen a photo of Mike Albo and he looks fat. But what he did to Jeff Hickey, I can't forget."
Luke: "He embarrassed him on GeneRoss.com?"
Lynne: "Oh no. He did something far worse. He asked Jeff Hickey to drive out to East Los Angeles and run an errand for him and then Jeff Hickey's car broke down. And he didn't want to help him out. So Jeff called me because I have Autoclub. So I go out to rescue Jeff in the car and we're waiting for the Autoclub. Meanwhile, he's kicking something. Some substance, right, he's Jeff Hickey. So we go to McDonalds because that's where he wants to eat. I pay. And he baughs all over the sidewalk. And the Autoclub comes, puts his car in the thing, and drives us home. How did your thing come out? Did your mommy rescue you?"
Luke: "No, when Mike dropped me off in East LA, I took a $50 taxi ride home."
Luke Speaks To Skeptics
Luke will be speaking on his book "A History of X" Sunday morning, December 19, in West Los Angeles at The Center for Inquiry-West. It is the West Coast headquarters for CSICOP (Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal) publisher of Skeptical Inquirer magazine, and the Council for Secular Humanism, publisher of Free Inquiry magazine. www.cfiwest.org.
Porn star Chaim Amalek (formerly married to porner Cindy Plenum) writes from New York: "First off, congratulations on being selected to speak before CSICOP. While I presently prefer The Skeptic to The Skeptical Inquirer, I am very impressed. I used to go to CSICOP meetings. This is easily the most impressive bit of Luke F-rd news to appear on your web site since I first became aware of it, easily beating knowing any porner for increasing your intellectual stature. Seriously, you should Kvell (yiddish for "brag") about this to all of the jewish men at your temple that you want to date. (You ARE still gay, aren't you?)
"Finally, about the porn star stuff. I was amazed that you did not pick up on this before. You knew that I was a New Yorker, one of the Chosen Few, so how could you not have known that I was also a porn star? Of course, I was pretty young at the time, and ever since I let word get out that I was only ** years old when I made those movies with Annie Sprinkle, Karen Finley, Amy Dworkin (Andrea's niece), Cindy Plenum and the rest of the gang, my work vanished down the memory hole. So far down the memory hole, in fact, that no one ever mentions my name. You would think that the Torah itself forbade these jews from even mentioning me while discussing the milestones of porn. (Not that these people care about the Torah, but who can tell?) Ingrates! Most of these characters would still be marginal players living on the outer edges of society were it not for me."
Zev Baeck writes: "That Talk chick who wants to talk to your readers, is she hot looking? If she is, I want to meet her, so that I can gain entre into the world of Tina Brown and that crowd. I want to go to their parties, screw their women, eat their food, regale them with my stories, and recruit them for my new cult. This journalist is the key. I would appreciate it if you mentioned me as someone with especially deep insights into your being. In exchange for this, I will tell her pretty much any damn thing you want me to, so long as it does not compromise my strategic goals."
Luke woke up this morning after a passionate night and turned over in his bed to blonde Swedish porn star Linda Thoren and announced, "I'm Thor."
"You're Thor," replied Linda. "I'm so thor I can hardly pith."
Later, Luke got this letter from "Tomas Gabriel Santiago," a name similar to that of the ex-boyfriend of blonde Sin City girl Linda Thoren.
The letter is a FAKE but I'll publish it anyway:
Dear Mr. Ford,
I read in a recent chat transcript where Linda Thor stated that there was "no drama" in the breakup of our relationship. Perhaps this is true for her, although there were aspects which held more than enough for me. I dont want to sound as though Im filled with bitterness or resentment, it's certainly not her fault that we are seperated, it was simply the pressures surrounding her many lives which finally began to manifest themselves. If these could only have been resolved then I would have happily taken my place at her feet. Of course we have had "tiffs" before, but these were easily resolved. My complete capitulation, and perhaps some public humiliation, would restore our relationship, however there were signs that this time things were different.
At first these were so subtle that they were easily overlooked...small things like: She would come home and forget to mention that she had unprotected sex with five or six people that day, and so I might want to brush my teeth after we made love, or that a recent sexual partner had been diagnosed with aids, and I might be battling another fatal disease. But as things worsened her distraction became intolerable, she would come home and go straight to bed, without bothering to denegrate me at all, and in public I made decisions openly and blatantly, without eliciting so much as a cross word. Now I admit that after ten years I should have absolutely no pride, god knows she has done her best, but these slights were more than I could stand. Honestly, how could I hold my head up when attending social functions since everyone knew what was going on? I could never look the other "boys" in the eye again. But enough excuses, we are seperated because I did the unthinkable, I voiced my displeasure. An unpardonable sin, and rightly so. After all, the guidelines for our relationship were set long ago, and these trivial issues were not worth mentioning compared to "all she has done for me". My fault entirely. I hope this didnt bore you, what with all the weighty matters being discussed here, I just wanted to set the record straight. Of course there was drama, and if there had been none, she would have invented some.
Tomas Gabriel Santiago
P.S. I can only pray that the sarcasm is not too subtle for the intended audience.
Linda Thoren tells Luke: "Luke: Hehe, not ONE word is true. Tomas and me talk by phone everyday. I hope you understand that the letter is a fake. But it was kind of funny to read it. I have saved it for Tomas...he is gonna have real fun reading it..."
Luke tells Tomas Gabriel Santiago: "Wonderful letter. Stay in touch. You offer important insights."
Tomas: "(If you were serious about my letter being insightful, then you dissapoint me. In hopes that your reply smacked of genuine sarcasm, and you are truly searching for insight, I write this.)
"Dear Mr. Ford,
"Thats just it, although the pain and heartache are real, so is the love. Beyond that which most human beings are priveledged enough to have even dreamed about. I thank you for your invitation to stay in touch, but in truth it's doubtful. If this was an overture to perhaps, "gathering some dirt" ( I beg your forgiveness sir, but your reputation precedes you :-)from a jilted lover, then I would dissappoint you Im afraid. And although I admit I find your work fascinating, ( Assuming this was a genuine offer) I am short on time and have work of my own left to do. Besides, I have this nagging feeling that yours may be the most insightful perspective of all, and if I were to engage in the "describe Lukes ?-sexuality game which has been taking place, I would say, that if Luke were to come out of the closet and display his homosexuality openly, then we would see him with some of the worlds most beautiful women.
"I'll leave a forwarding address in case Ive won anything (smiling). In any event, the sarcastic, heartbroken lover is at most a facet, and certainly not an aspect of myself which would ever dictate my actions, and so from me, or with me she is safe. If you are truly seeking insight, perhaps this will help. A lifetime ago I tried blinding myself to myself. I could not re-concile the idea that a mind ruled by intellect could also be inhabited by the dark individual who emerged on stage, or who painted macabre gothic visages for days at a time, and so I tried drowning in a sea of alcohol, drugs and sex. There is no more tortured soul in the universe, than the person illuminated by their own transparency. When I met her, I was consumed with empathy, and eventually this filled the hole in my spirit. Is this love? I dont know. Did it become love? On a higher level than I knew existed. An extremely wise individual once said to me, "the way to gain patience, is to pretend that you already have it". Maybe this is what happened with us, two people who feign intimacy for so long, perhaps stumble on it, or at least on the outskirts. Again, I dont know. I hope that helps you on your quest, you seem to be an individual with an answer in search of the question which spawned it. In closing I'd like to say that I believe your site and writing in general to be in extremely poor taste, which is to say that I enjoy it immensely and sincerely hope you continue in your work.
Peg the Feminist Troll writes on RAME: My original post actually brought some interesting, and humorous, replies. However, it also brought typical questions about how a feminist can enjoy porn. I don't see them as being mutually exclusive at all. And I would suggest that there are many feminisits out there who see sexuality as empowering. It's the way I feel about porn -- in many cases it is a woman expressing her sexuality in a way she chooses.
I think expressing sexuality and enjoying sexual behaviro is a perfect expression of feminism because it allows me to express me, which is what feminism is. Feminism is not about putting down men, or about hating things male. It's about each woman in her own way being free to be who she wants to be, whether that be in the workplace, kitchen or bedroom. I don't think, for example, that a man who wants to cook is automatically effeminate. Nor do I think an aggressive, confident woman in bed is anti-feminist.
I feel women's sexuality is empowering -- if we ever decided to truly use the power between our legs, guys, we'd be real scary -- and i think it is healthy to examine all aspects of that sexuality.How we choose to manifest that empowerment in our sexuality is an individual choice. I feel freed by being able to grab my husband and telling him to "f--- me.'' Or if the mood were different, by being romantic with candles and wine and all the good stuff. It's me, which is feminism in its truest sense (I believe).
My choice, though, is not to appreciate porn that involves putting down women or controlling them or posing them as underage kids. That to me is unhealthy. I can't in my mind see anything sexy about some of the thigns Mila does, but I think Ashlyn Gere's confident "kick-ass" presence in bed was very exciting. Same with Jill Kelly. Marilyn Chambers stretched the envelope and did all sort of things I might not, but she was a sexually charged, confident woman I'd love to meet. I do not think a "gape'' is at all sexy because it has health hazards and I just don't see the excitement in twisting the body to act in ways it shouldn't. However, anal sex can be sexy depending on what is done. Me, I find facials exciting when a woman likes and enjoys them (Nici Sterling and Tiffany Mynx come to mind). I think bondage between two consenting adults is exciting. I don't find porn that treats women as dirt very exciting. Excuse me for rambling. But I also would like to thank the group -- and even Mr. Riley -- for not being outright degrading and belittling (as you have done to some in the past). You took what I wrote and made intelligent comments (see below). I don't pretend to think everyone should agree with me, or feel the same way I do. But I do appreciate the respect shown. :-) Now for the comments:
From: "Dana " dbwasser@earthlink.net > Perhaps that's why I like a pornstar like Ashlyn Gere, who is sexy and > confident and takes command. Or Jill Kelly, who has taken command of her > business. And others along that route. Alisha Klass amazes me, but honey I > can't believe what she does. Mila is pretty ... well ... disgusting.
I fail to see your differentiation of the above-named women from the subjects of derision you describe. Kindly elaborate. Fair comment ... I believe I answered above. And Dana I believe I answered the feminist question you raised above as well. But please don't bring up guilt to me; I was raised Catholic and I can't stand reviving that horror of always feeling guilty. LOL. (Joke, guys, joke)
From: bmcapers@aol.com I'm all up for trading football cards and talking about each player's talents, treating them like game pieces. I investing my time to watch them perform. They're the best in their field, which many call entertainment. I have high expectations. Excuse me if I don't respect their human feelings if they miss a field goal. I devoted my time and money to watch that kick. You're marketing to me and I want those points I invested in. But I will be sensitive to them when I see them on tele-thons for charity. That's when my sensitive side comes out.
Good point. I suppose booing a football player is akin to treating porn stars like objects. I can see it ...
modemac@modemac.com (Modemac) raised the same issue and I see what you say. I guess the only difference is these women are offering their entire bodies for the world to see, and they are more than their parts (in some cases). But they do it freely so I guess they must accept what comes with showing the last little butt dimple to the world on film.
From: brentlw@geocities.com (Brent Wilkins OK. This isn't related to porn or erotic movies, but I must say this. Why must you expect sensitivity? Women expect sensitivity from a guy and then treat him like dirt because he is sensitive. I lost track of how many times, in high school, that girls I knew would turn me down when I'd ask them out only to later say that they wished they could find somebody like me. There's just so much a man can take before a thick skin forms and self-preservation can be interpreted as insensitivity.
Mad Jack phoned from Las Vegas late Saturday night while shagging his latest find Lisa. The conversation was too disjointed and obscene for me to transcribe.
Laurie Holmes Goes After Luke F-rd
GeneRoss.com reports that media whore Gary Frischer says his firm is about to file litigation against both Luke F-rd and Fantastic On Line. "We're sending Fantastic a letter that either they drop his website or we're filing a lawsuit next week," Frischer said. "I don't think anyone has a right to slander people the way this guy does." Frischer did not detail specifics.
Krash writes: "This could well be some sort of pubicity stunt. At the very least, no one involved thus far in this, whatever the f--- "this" is, has the juice to come anywhere near you or Vasiloff on any defensible grounds whatsoever. But then again, didn't you say these lawyers were involved in some hi-profile cop and/or race case? It just doesn't add up. Then again--does it ever?"
Luke F-rd writes: "Dear Gene. This has been a huge week in my life. I finally had the courage to come out as a gay man. I wondered if that changed the way you looked at me?
"PS. I don't think I've ever commented enough on your 'bulging biceps,' 'whipcord thighs' and 'steely blue eyes.' Hugs and kisses."
Gene sez: "Dear Luke, truthfully, with my lack of a full, sinew-laden trapezius development, I've never felt like a complete man. However, I want you to know that this winter I'm dedicating my reconstructive workout regimen of shoulder shrugs, snatches, upright rows and front lateral raises to you. I only hope it will change the way you look at me."
Poor r-dar Becca Five writes: "Gene, Gene, Gene! I can't believe you chastised poor r-dar about the Luke F-rd thing. Let's face it--people "with way too much time on their hands" is what makes up the bulk of your readership. . . . And isn't that the whole idea behind the Internet anyway? Enticing people to spend huge chunks of time doing absolutely nothing? (Like writing pointless e-mails?) I mean, it's not like people get on the net to LEARN something, Gene!"
Gene sez: "Considering that I spend huge chunks of time writing about absolutely nothing, I think I see your point."
Metro Home Video
Mattol99 writes on Yahoo: "The front desk lady at the Cranston office stated "7876" when she answered the phone today at 4:00 PM. I asked if this was Metro Global and she said it was and I asked her why she didn't answer the phone stating the companies name. She stated that the company was currently moving it's main office to the West Coast. I held back asking if it was the West Coast of the Cayman islands. Once a week I call with everyone with any knowledge being gone, but they take my number and never call. Each call I question the lady and she only reveals that she's been coached not to know anything. Bought 12500 shares of this stock in August and I feel like such an money hungry idiot. Out of the 50 or so ticker symbols I got off the BAMM board this seemed like the biggest winner. I guess any stocks a winner when they only give you the good news."
Burned By Vivid Again
DSL1999 writes on RAME: "Just when I thought it was safe to purchase a DVD product from VIVD, I get ripped off yet again by their random butchering of their re-released titles. This time, it's THE MASSEUSE 2, a great video which came out a couple of years ago with ASHLYN GERE and ASIA CARRERA. For some unknown reason, the DVD completely edits the super seductive striptease performed by Asia before her scene with Steven St. Croix. Dressed in panties and a bra, Asia looks simply mesmerizing in her little by the bathroom door tease, before she crawls on all fours towards the bed. And now, the moment is gone forever. The wholesale editing of that maybe one minute scene is more than enough for me to break the disc in two and ship it back to Vivid Video. Is there anyone doing anything about this travesty? Luke F-rd, can you please send a message to Vivid through whatever connections you have to tell them to stop this s---?!?!"
JSmith writes: "They're not going to stop. They HAVE to do it. In defense, I'll point out that some Vivid DVDs are actually longer than their video counter parts. Take Bad Girls 2 for example. BTW, is the violence part still intact on your copy? Someone was bitching about that being cut. Interestingly enough, I have the video and both parts are intact."
Girls Getting Better
Porner Jim Gunn writes on RAME: It is plainly obvious- to me at least- that the quality of the women are increasing every year. More and more 18 and 19 year old girls, some of them natural and sexy, are getting in the business every year. Of course since the overall quantity of the women and especially the number of releases are increasing, there are always several marginal girls for every hot one, but that just makes the consumers job of weeding through the drek to find the gems a little bit harder. But nevertheless, put the creme de la creme of todays crop of talent vs. the drugged out hookers of Golden Age or the extremely limited talent pool of the 1980's and there is no comparison.
Use your resources like rame, and the review sites like Rog or CAVR.com to get your detailed information to separate the wheat from the chaff. The choice for the consumer nowadys is so wide that one can find almost everything you want by genre- whether it is gangbangs, all-girl, asian, anal, or whatever. These vast online resources did not exist back in the day for you to arm yourself with and make better selections as a consumer. At least now you can follow a models career and cherry pick all her titles to get your favorite babe- just like some of the other guys on rame focus on one particular girl they fancy. Perhaps you need to patronize another video store or order online if you cannot find what you are looking for locally.
Take an example of a super-picky guy like Patrick Riley. He has a fetish for pretty, new, young, natural, unmarred types with nice skin (who doesn't?) and he is able to find these types, albeit in some of the obscure releases from some of the relatively smaller companies. a He then shares that information here on Usenet with the appropos note "Gorgeous Creature Alert". This is just an example, but whatever you are looking for I'm sure you can find it. That's the beauty of the vast selection of titles and comsumer resources nowadays as opposed to years ago.
Ex-Porn Actress Says Chance Encounter Led To Death
From the Las Vegas Review-Journal: A former porn actress told jurors Friday how a chance encounter with a member of the super-rich du Pont family started a chain of events that culminated in a lethal struggle in a Las Vegas motel.
Diana Hironaga, who in May pleaded guilty to a federal conspiracy charge, told the jurors in U.S. District Court in Las Vegas that she returned in July 1998 hoping to change a life that had seen more than its share of drugs and crime.
But she soon was approached in a hotel lounge by Christopher Moseley, husband of Lisa Dean Moseley, a direct descendant of the founder of the DuPont Co. whom Moseley met while serving as her groundskeeper.
From the Is She Gay Page:
Checked out the page. Two questions: who is Luke F-rd and why is he important to a lesbian web site? (n/t) (11-Nov-1999 04:31:00)
I agree 100%. Why the heck is Luke F-rd's URL up there? Do you have ANY idea what that asshole stands for? Apart from that, nice job, Babe! (n/t) (HotLips) (11-Nov-1999 11:31:00)
Luke F-rd posted some tired old tripe about (paraphrasing) all the women who wouldn't Lesbians after spending a night with him. As if. (n/t) (Misandry Hag) (11-Nov-1999 11:50:27)
I sheepishly admit to watching porno, so I added Luke F-rd's site. More importantly he raises issues I don't happen to agree with. Can a man convert a lesbian? Are Porno Queens the ultimate in feminine beauty? These questions and others can be examined or not while/after visiting his site. The most important question is, Shall I access Luke F-rd.com or not? It is a personal choice...:) (n/t) (Babe) (11-Nov-1999 15:36:27)
"Can a man convert a lesbian?", oh that's original! I have more pertinent questions to ponder than if some guy thinks that a little dick will set me straight! (n/t) (11-Nov-1999 18:37:37)
I think that was the point. He's not that big of a deal. (n/t) (teen) (11-Nov-1999 20:07:48)
205.134.245.37 writes: GEAR magazine's Toby Young locked horns with furious lesbians at the all-girl West 14th Street hang-out Mother. Young dressed in drag with an orange wig, raccoon mascara and a startling 36D brassiere for an article titled "I Was A Lesbian for A Night," for Bob Guccione Jr's mag. But Young was found out. He was surrounded and had to run for the door. "I thought being a lesbian was all fun and games," he said later. "But it's really dangerous."
Luke Gets Mail
Lynne L-patin writes: I love it when Kendra is right: All they want to do is to complain about appearance. Men. What is appearance compared to immaculate spelling, especially in an Internet relationship? Sorry about letting you go into a sacred holy day with that image aboard. The warmth without demand felt good. The blood was scary. It took me awhile to figure out what it was. Sorry. My body couldn't help it.
My brain wanted to respond to the well-rounded comment questioning why I would pose with a gun. A responsibility toward Luke to teach him what little I know about gun handling? To demonstrate "not afraid" to Luke? Luke started it! When Luke is excited enough about something as to override his own personal space, I should discourage it? It doesn't hurt, except for people questioning Luke's taste.
My new book is called "By Reason of Insanity," by John Balt. He was a Hollywood screenwriter who stabbed his wife to death while in a psychotic haze and recovered to write about it. Early sixties, pub. in 1966. Chicks & Guns. What about Bad Boys with Guns? Bad Men with Hot Rods and Fast Women.
Kidd Hollywood writes: "Hey Luke, Love your site. Been reading it for a while and thought it was time to make my mark. Been making films for a few months now, and have the best scenes out there. I should be the winner of that award they gave that puke Matt Zane. I'm the originator of GenX porn. Not that silly fool Kid Vegas or that Sparkle character. I just filmed the best f---ing series yet and it is being checked out by a couple of companies right now. Call around and you'll find out who. It called, "Got Cheese!" and it shows guys eating out girls with yeast infections. Real cheesy stuff...LOL...I'm gonna push the extreme envelope to the Max baby. Let me know if you want to come down to a set dude and I'll hook you up with the most outrageous f--- scenes out there. I'm getting finance by some big wigs in Canada, they seem to have all the money lately huh."
Gary: Andy Warhol was right, everyone has their 15 minutes of fame. Just checked the Yahoo auction site. Graphic photos of John Wayne Bobbits penis reattachment currently have a bid of $1.00.
Aghast in Modesto: "I recently went to EBAY's Adult Video site and found it rife with the most nauseating types of pornography. I mean stuff that I am sure would be deemed illegal in all fifty states. Pissing. s---ting. Menstruation. Torture. All displayed out in the open like a stinking cesspool. It's hard to believe that a major commercial web site condones this repulsive stuff or do they just plead (feign) ignorance? At any rate, if you have time, you may want to contact them and see if you can get a public comment on this questionable (if not illegal) commerce."
Fax: Luke, I thought your book was great, brilliantly edited, it could have been twice as long, but then only half as good.
FYI: The taboo Pam Anderson/ Bret Michaels hardcore tape now on E-bay for as little as ten bucks. Search "Pam Anderson Video."
Rumdar: "Luke.......... Kenny, Bill, Jim, Rick and other members of your Houston fan club are attempting to discern if you are putting the world on by outing yourself. So I E mailed Gene Ross for confirmation and also informed him that compared to your column his is about as boring as the Reader's Digest. I think I was being too kind. I believe Gene needs to make a proclamation similar to yours. Perhaps blurting out that he is actually hermaphrodite. That will go a long way to win back the readers that consider you number one, even if you are a queer."
Chaim Amalek writes: "Yes, the first cracks in this edifice you have constructed of Luke F-rd the Jew are now visible. First you admit that it has been over a year since you wrapped straps of leather connected to little boxes that contain sacred parchment to your arms and head, and now I see that your page is dated SATURDAY - Shabbas! It's happening Luke. Soon you will be eating cheeseburgers, dancing with mensturating shiksas and the like.
"UNLESS you go ALL THE WAY BACK. A fur hat and long black overcoat. Sidelocks and untrimmed beard. Talmud study all day long. An obedient jewish wife who can give you 8 or 9 kids. I see you as a Satmar, living in Brooklyn. You could become the Cat Steven's of the Jews!"
Dave writes: "You list Naughtia Childs as 115 pounds and 20 years old. Kid Vegas says she is now a size 16. This means one of 2 things, that presuming she started at a legal age of 18 her weight has approximately doubled in less than 2 years and who wouldn't leave someone under those conditions, or, Kid Vegas missed his true calling in life and should be farming beef cattle fattening them up to feed a nation. Either way women should just run away and muscle boys wanting to gain weight should run to the Kid.
"Also 2 great quotes from Miss Childs should you attach them together "I've just started working on a project that will truly define my individualistic style and vision...I loved taking cum showers...53 guys." After 53 cum showers figure the vision to be less than 20-20."
Length of Sex Scenes
Pat Riley: "Of course, except that I'd put the maximum length at about five minutes and three scenes would be ideal per tape. The rest should be taken up with plot development."
Jim Gunn: "Even if you like a lot of plot with your porn, five minutes goes by pretty fast Patrick. You'd hardly even have time to get your pants down around your ankles and get hard in the time span of the five minutes of the sex scene! You do realize that a lot of people like to jerk off to these movies, right?"
Pat: "Wait until after the movie is over, retire to a nice comfortable
bed, mentally remove the droning voice of the director/cameraman
"But, if you want to be crude and do it in real time so to speak, you'd be up and running during the plot development as you become immersed in her character and your relation to it. Your pants, as you so delicately image, are already in the appropriate position prior to even the 2257 statement."
Goddess writes Luke: "You wanted to know which of your pictures was my favorite?? Any one in which you have a loaded firearm pointed at yourself."
Luke responds: "I love it. When do we get to meet? Do you like dick?"
Goddess replies: "Sorry, Luke. I am WAY TOO MUCH WOMAN for you. You're used to dealing with NJG (nice jewish girl)--you've never dealt with NGG (NASTY GERMAN GIRL)!
"I'm sorry, Luke, I didn't mean to get your hopes up, but you and I can never be. I'm not the malleable Jewish girl you're seeking, and you definately don't have the bulging biceps, whipcord thighs and steely blue eyes that some of us German girls are lusting after. And if that isn't bad enough, Luke, I'm actually--GASP--a CATHOLIC!! Oh, and by the way, you're never going to make a good gay if you keep using phrases like "do you like dick?" Unless you're a second grader, the word is COCK!! Use it, Luke, it feels really good in your mouth.
"Your gay male intuition SUCKS--in more ways than one. You know, Luke, there are some women who can actually make quite a good living WITHOUT having to spread their legs. Although I'm sure that concept is alien to someone like you.
"Oh, I get it. You sense hostility so I MUST be in the business? You've been at this too long, Luke. You really must learn the difference between hostility and tongue-in-cheek. I have no reason to be hostile towards you. You simply amuse me.
"Then why do you concern yourself with it? And if most porners are scum, what does that make you? Didn't I read somewhere that you ACTED in vids? Isn't this kind of like choking on chow mein all the while bitching about how you hate Chinese food?
"Now I know why you're not in a committed relationship, Luke. You don't know how to listen. I have nothing to do with the porn industry and I have NO CLUE as to who Helen Thompson is."
NJG writes: "I just wanted to welcome Goddess, if indeed she is a real girl with a real vagina, and not a MTF (male-to-female) to Luke's Fag Hag Fan Club. She, along with me, Lynne and Kendra would like to welcome Goddess as the newest member of the club. Any woman or gay man is welcome to belong to our club. Sorry, no straight men allowed, although Chaim, Fred, and Jimmy D. are all honorary members. Sincerely, Nice Jewish Girl, President Luke's Fag Hag Fan Club.
"Luke: as President of the Luke Fag Hag Club, we had an emergency meeting about the issue of MTF's. And it was decided unanymously that MTF's, as well as FTM's (female to male) are welcome. The LFHC welcomes all. So Goddess if you are an MTF, you are welcome to be in the club. The LFHC regrets any insensitivity regarding this issue and is non-discriminitory. We also welcome any donations that your readers would like to give."
A friend writes: I want to point out THE dynamic that seems to be at the bottom of your porn persona: The dynamic that belies ALL your work is the following: you are unconsciously furious at your father for abandoning you as a child (and rightly so, there is no valid excuse for abandoning you) but since it would be overwhelming to a child to admit that your father did not love you, you solved the dilemma as a child by deciding you must be the "bad" one, and unworthy of love.
Since you have now successfully convinced yourself you are bad and worthy of punishment, you play out these dynamics by always inciting others to beat up on you to confirm your belief that it is all your fault--you are bad, and unworthy of your father's love.
The solution? You need to make these feelings of fury conscious, and then confront your father while he's still living, and tell him what a hypocritical jerk he was for abandoning you to foster care. You will remain stuck emotionally until you do admit to these feelings and confront him as an adult, man to man.
Also, you need to be aware that the essence of therapy is transference-- your intrapsychic dynamics become visible in the context of your relationship with your therapist. Once these dynamics are made visible, you can then consciously own them and deal with them in the present as an adult, instead of denying them and dealing with them as you were psychologically forced to do in the past as a powerless child.
So don't give up on therapy, just because the dynamics may indeed become overwhelming. Find a therapist you like and feel you can cooperate with, and then hang in there and work through these unconscious conflicts, and you will reclaim the power you are entitled to as an adult.
Ed writes on RAME: "The other day in work a girl was telling me how upset she was because a co-worker told her that her daughter"Savanah" is named after a pornstar. I asked her what she named her youngest daughter. Her response.........Sierra. When I told her that she is batting 2 for 2 she cracked up."
Dustyridge writes on YNOT webmaster board: "Luke: I came out of the closet and announced that I was a "NEUTER", several years ago. And, I am happy to announce that I haven't been hit on by male or female since. This means that when I go to conventions, even though I am offered beautiful nubile girls, boys, or animals...I take the MONEY instead. If I can get one of those spare PEKKERs that they are growing, I may take up sex with it, however. Then, when I am hit upon, I'll just give them my spare PEKKER to use. I have to admit, that as a "NEUTER", I do get very excited by stacks of hundred dollar bills! This business is about money...not sex!"
DSL1999 writes on RAME: I know VIVID VIDEO prides itself on being the pioneer of adult DVDs with their "multiple angles' and special features, but you must STOP putting out edited editions of your feature films [does director Paul Thomas know about this? Does he approve?] on DVD!!! If VIVID wants to continue their reputation (well-deserved, I may add) of putting out good adult films with gorgeous girls, then please pay more careful attention to your DVD releases and transfer the whole feature, and not the edited versions of your videos, which apparently are made ot fit into a one hour, fifteen minute video. This is unfair to your loyal customers and DVD collectors who find that the ORIGINAL release of your older movies are more complete than the DVD they just purchased. And please DROP the multiple angle feature on your films; the WAVE releases benefit greatly from the lack of this gimmick and make the viewing process easier.
VCA, NEW MACHINE, EVIL ANGEL and ELEGANT ANGEL never ever cheat on the feature running times and there are never wholesale edits of their videos when transferred to DVD. I read somewhere that Vivid's VICTIM OF LOVE DVD has the Jamie Summers/Christy Canyon threesome removed entirely from the film...are they nuts??? This is the best scene in the whole damn movie!!!
Mikus writes: "Keep it up Luke-- Its about time someone stood up against Vivid, the dirtiest, sleaziest company out there. I joined the site and was extremely disappointed. Their product sucks, their website is overpriced and isnt any good, and Steve Hirsch is a cowardly little faggot with a tiny pin dick. Anyone who joins/stays with their site is getting scammed."
Luke F-rd today looks into the affairs of the shifty Jewish owner of Doc Johnson, Ronald Braverman. He appears to own property worth almost four million dollars.
Brandy Alexandre writes Luke: "Now you're doing it to someone else? You just made me sorry for helping you with REAL stories about porn. I hope someone goes after your family and anyone who may be remotely related to you just because they don't like you and plasters all their personal information all over the net."
Here are the results of a search of public records:
RONALD ARTHER BRAVERMAN Year Born: 1947 SSN 285-42-XXXX issued in Ohio in 1963
Possible Other Social Security Numbers Associated with Subject
BRAVERMAN, RONALD A SSN: 293-03-XXXX
** ALERT ** A Death Claim was filed for SSN 293-03-XXXX in JAN 1995.
Possible Other Records/Names Associated with Social Security Numbers BRAVERMAN, LILLIAN F SSN: 293-03-XXXX
** ALERT ** A Death Claim was filed for SSN 293-03-XXXX in JAN 1995.
BRAVERMAN, SHARON A SSN: 285-42-XXXX BRAVERMAN, SOPHIA C SSN: 285-42-XXXX
BRAVERMAN, W L SSN: 293-03-XXXX
** ALERT ** A Death Claim was filed for SSN 293-03-XXXX in JAN 1995.
BRAVERMAN, WILLIAM L SSN: 293-03-XXXX
** ALERT ** A Death Claim was filed for SSN 293-03-XXXX in JAN 1995.
COHEN, SOPHIA SSN: 285-42-XXXX
Possible Property Ownership
XX VOSE ST NORTH HOLLYWOOD, CA 91605
California Assessment Record - County of: LOS ANGELES
Owner Name: BRAVERMAN, RONALD A
Parcel Number: 2258-015-044
Short Legal Desc: *TR=31645 CONDOMINIUM*UNIT 111
Property Type: RES CONDO CONVERSION
Recorded Date: 06/25/1990
Situs Address: LOS ANGELES, CA 91316
Assessment Year: 1998 Tax Year:
Assessed Land Value: $31,000
Assessed Improvements: $92,000
Total Assessed Value: $123,000
Most Recent Sale: $149,500
California Assessment Record - County of: LOS ANGELES
Owner Name: BRAVERMAN, RONALD A
Parcel Number: 2321-003-030
Short Legal Desc: TRACT # 2755 E 105 FT OF W 115 FT OF S 414.86 FT OF
LOT 32
Property Type: WAREHOUSE-UNDER 10000 SF
Recorded Date: 07/29/1994
Situs Address: 11961 VOSE ST LOS ANGELES, CA 91605
Assessment Year: 1998
Assessed Land Value: $1,412,022
Assessed Improvements: $310,643
Total Assessed Value: $1,722,665
California Assessment Record - County of: LOS ANGELES
Owner Name: BRAVERMAN, RONALD A
Parcel Number: 2358-009-059
Short Legal Desc: *S 30.25 FT OF E 66 FT OF LOT 6 TR NO 1602 AND LOT
2 TR NO 17632 Property Type: SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
Recorded Date: 10/15/1987
Situs Address: XXXX MORRISON ST LOS ANGELES, CA 91423
Assessed Land Value: $149,619 Market Land Value:
Assessed Improvements: $22,953
Total Assessed Value: $172,572
XXXX READCREST DR BEVERLY HILLS, CA 90210
Owner Name: BRAVERMAN, RONALD A AND SOPHIA C
Property Type: SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
Recorded Date: 08/06/1991
Situs Address: XXXX READCREST DR LOS ANGELES, CA 90210
Assessed Land Value: $1,555,484
Assessed Improvements: $1,012,334
Total Assessed Value: $2,567,818
Possible Business Affiliations 11933 VOSE ST NORTH HOLLYWOOD, CA 91605 'DOC' JOHNSON ENTERPRISES CA 1410328, CHAIRMAN ACTIVE
HEALTH DEVICES CORPORATION CA 778919 REG AGENT
ACTIVE KOLENDER, INC. CA 1484592 CHAIRMAN DISSOLVED
LOVE GARDEN, LTD CA 1154424 REG AGENT DISSOLVED
MERCHANDISE FOR MAILERS, INC. CA 1030545 REG AGENT MERGED OUT
PHOTOS IN ONE HOUR, INC. CA 1030555 REG AGENT SUSPENDED
SENSUALITIES, INC. CA 1154455 REG AGENT DISSOLVED
<JimGunn> l-keford, i have a friend who also constantly and pointlessly talks about being gay even though he is not, and I find it as insipid as when you do it.
<JimGunn> There are x number of finite hours in a a life Luke, so every seconfd one wastes on fabricated non-sequiters and nonsense is one second less that you live
<l-keford> but will it help my hollywood career?
<adamjm> luke dont' you feel it's time to move on to new fake news?
<l-keford> yes
<adamjm> gay stuff is played out
<JimGunn> Please Adam don't enncourage him ;-)
<adamjm> hehe
<adamjm> sorry jim
<l-keford> i was thinking about doing a series of my fav gay fantasy f---s - steve hirsch, paul fishbein, russ hampshire, etc..????
<adamjm> you don't find ed powers shagable?
<l-keford> no
<l-keford> but steve hirsch, mmmmmmmm
<`^-_-^`> He belongs to Ron
<JimGunn> I mean with all the real life characters, drama and pathos in this crazy biz I still find it amazing you would need to go out of your way to make things up at all, but I've made my feelings clear on this already.
<adamjm> are the sucks,dangling ear ring,scruffy beard, and pony tail a turn off for you luke?
<l-keford> yes
<adamjm> sucks=socks
<l-keford> Deep inside, there's a novelist here wanting to break out
<`^-_-^`> Ron is Jewish... don't you feel something for him Luke?
<l-keford> no
<`^-_-^`> c'mon
<zoexxx> i think I am going to puke
<`^-_-^`> seriously?
<adamjm> would you let ron jeremy f--- you if the money was right luke?
<l-keford> please, somebody, send me log from am, i will do anything...
<l-keford> Jim, what tapes do you like to jerk off to?
<adamjm> luke if you get naked at CES and walk past the Falcon booth, drop your keys and bend over to pick them up i'll give you the log of last night's chat
<JimGunn> I don't use porn to j/o much Luke
<JimGunn> But g/g scenes are my faves as you might expect
<`^-_-^`> l-keford, I clicked on a pic that was supposed to be Mile Albo on your site... I expected the usual poor quality pic but what I got was a digitall camera pic (verry crappy btw) of you on a tv screen with saliva dripping from your upper jaw to the lower jaw..... ever wonder why I hate your pics?
<l-keford> why?
<`^-_-^`> they sux like a hoover.
<l-keford> Zoe, will you ever do the Bunny Ranch and make my dreams come true?
<l-keford> Or is that saved for Gene Ross?
<JimGunn> Luke wuld you pay those inflated BR prices just to get laid?
<adamjm> luke would you let XXX do you with a strap on?
<l-keford> no
<`^-_-^`> I want a pic of Mike Albo... luke is not deliveringg...
<adamjm> no she wouldn't luke
<l-keford> 'cause i am jewish?
<adamjm> fake dick isn't good enough for you?
<l-keford> no
<adamjm> gotta have the real thing huh
<JimGunn> Luke you gonna be atr CES I imagine?
<adamjm> i thought luke was faking being gay till he said he hates eating pussy the other night
<l-keford> i don't think i am going to ces, too jewish
<adamjm> you know any straight guys that hate eating pussy jim?
<adamjm> i think he fakes being jewish though
<l-keford> seriously, i don't think i will go, too dangerous
<JimGunn> Uh, you sound like a f---in' broken record Luke.
<AdmKrag> hmm
<adamjm> i think luke if anyone is, is an antisemite
<JimGunn> He's as Jewish as he is gay or a journalist - none of the above.
<JimGunn> No he's just an annoying kvetch with potential and an occaissionally interesting site if you weed thru all the bs. Acually you've had some god stuff up there lately.
<`^-_-^`> he gets to be with porn people that a lot of us would kill to be with, and he has the opportunity to take pics of these people and his crappy digital camera lets us down every time.
<xxxgen> Hi Luke - yeah I saw that - I am not taking your site down
<`^-_-^`> thankk god for the tabb key... makes me lookl smart.
<JimGunn> Luke you got bigger problems than Laurie Holmes!
<JimGunn> Other than your mental ones, the muh more meaner people who ought to sue and or have you beaten to a bloody pulp.
<l-keford> craig, how many hours do you work a week?
<xxxgen> The company is registered in the BVI - I'd like to see them sue us
<xxxgen> about 160!!!
<jewporner> so luke , whos in your sights now
<l-keford> ron braverman, steve hirsch, paul f
<jewporner> nicely done, those guys deserve all your s---
<l-keford> I try to focus on those that deserve it, and just knock you around for fun! :)
<jewporner> i know your live ;for that
<jewporner> tell a jew tell a phone tell a woman
<xxxgen> Luke F-rd prints rumors???
* BobBlec hangs a sign in the channel that says "Ford on board"
<jewporner> haha
<jewporner> is that the canadian, fromthe great white north
<jewporner> no prob, the courts here can't touch you
<xxxgen> From Matt - how about a Sin City profile?
<jewporner> haha
<l-keford> a matt photospread with zoe!
<moshe_dayan> the one eyed porn fiend1
<adamjm> luke: how long have you been a closet homosexual, neo nazi and do the two personalities conflict with each other?
<jewporner> i look best from the right
<xxxgen> Yeah jim - but the teenage thing scares me
<BobBlec> hhahhaha
<JimGunn> Well you can downplay that then
<JimGunn> They are all 18 you know!
<xxxgen> yeah but some areas we have distribution in the law says 21
<zoexxx> canada is strict
<JimGunn> Craig lotsa models in that first issue must be 18-20 though
<jewporner> hey , craig, you have little distibution in usa
<xxxgen> I have 40,000 in the USA for this issue
<jewporner> bull s---
<JimGunn> Craig, I left that word out of my movie title on purpose. So it won;t be a problem.
<jewporner> in your dreams
<xxxgen> Nope - not dreamin big guy
<jewporner> 'i am a major distibutor and i never heard or your mag
<jewporner> pussy
<xxxgen> You are a major distributor of porn - we are not a porn mag - fag
<zoexxx> uh oh
<BobBlec> hehehe
<jewporner> what are you
<xxxgen> what is that - "I know you are so what am I" lame
<jewporner> major where
<jewporner> major ass wipe
<xxxgen> yeah - you're cool - you gotta do better than that
<CausingTrouble> pst...feel the love
<CausingTrouble> sigh
<BobBlec> CT: hehehe
<zoexxx> come on kids
<zoexxx> behave
<xxxgen> C'mon your compaany is Sin City and that's the best you can do?
<CausingTrouble> its been awhile since i've had to use our coined phrase
<jewporner> kiss my ass
<xxxgen> bend over and i'll kick it
<zoexxx> hey now
<xxxgen> :)
<jewporner> i am not gay
<xxxgen> ok - and neither is Luke
<CausingTrouble> but i hear luke is
<CausingTrouble> hmmm
<adamjm> luke is bi
<CausingTrouble> ahh
<xxxgen> so I guess Matt is too!
<JimGunn> Nobody here is gay- stop talking all that gay s---!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<jewporner> well, the jury is out
<AdmKrag> Some of teh Women are gay heh
<xxxgen> :) Jim is homophobic
<BobBlec> Jim: well, there's a few newbies we're not sure about yet... ;)
<JimGunn> The girls are all bi, yes ,,,we wouldn't have it any other way.
<jewporner> i usually get the avn every month at the same time
<xxxgen> just like your period :)
<zoexxx> he f---s people over all the time
Zoe Kicks Luke.
<jewporner> f---yeah what, zoe
<JimGunn> He's back you know
<zoexxx> jim asked me if that was nice
<l-keford> what was that for?
<zoexxx> yeah i know
<zoexxx> i wouldnt ban him
<zoexxx> that would be mean
<zoexxx> its satir or however you spell it
<xxxgen> Matt doesn't know anybody but he's a major!!
<zoexxx> oh ok duh
<jewporner> major what
<jewporner> f--- up
<xxxgen> yeah - that's it
<jewporner> well, canadians are wantabe americans
<zoexxx> are you two still fighting
<porn_falafel> I KISS YOU!
<JimGunn> This week I'm shooting two softcore t&a movies
<JimGunn> Strap-On Sally 15 in two weeks
<JimGunn> A b/g feature and another t&a movie at the same time in two weeks
<xxxgen> Why don't you just do a behind the scenes piece this time - prep - shoot - edit - what goes on in the making of
<xxxgen> for the mag that Matt never heard of
<JimGunn> I will, I'd like to do it for "Lesbian Cheerleader Squad #1" since it's MY movie; but SOS15 especially would make another good piece for next time.
<adamjm> luke should leave porn alone and write satire or fiction
<adamjm> but then where would he get blowjobs
<Sultana^> I thought it was a fiction site ??? you mean its supposed to be real???????????
<adamjm> hehehe
<adamjm> ummm yea sultana
<Sultana^> hmmmm looked like a lot of bs to me oh well I know nothing about porn anyway so how would I know fact or fiction
<Bobstin_Powers> heheh
<Sultana^> one thing I can be sure of if that really is his room in one of the pics he is a SLOB
<xxxgen> Does Luke just log on and go to sleep? So he can log the whole thing?
<LMack> Yep
<xxxgen> lol - he's too funny
<LMack> I've not seen him speak for hours
<xxxgen> :) you are being watched!!!
<MadisonFan-> idle 5hrs 36mins 51secs
<xxxgen> Big Jewish Brother!
<LMack> Hehehe
<MadisonFan-> big gay jewish brother now
<xxxgen> heheheheh - I was just typing that!!!
<MadisonFan-> hehe
<Anuschka> I got a question xxxgen .......
<xxxgen> go ahead
<Anuschka> what distributors have you passed out your new mag to ?
<xxxgen> Just one from Canada right now - we will be sourcing others as soon as the mag rolls off the presses
<xxxgen> Our Canadian distrib is ok for a start - but it won't do in the long run
<Anuschka> Yeah we never heard of it around here
<xxxgen> Where's here?
<xxxgen> It's not actually out yet you know - first issue hits December
<Anuschka> Chicago - Capitol News
<Anuschka> Midwest Dist.
<xxxgen> You're a distrib?
<xxxgen> I'll send you a kit
<Anuschka> I work for one
<Anuschka> managed a group of purchasers
<xxxgen> do you handle AVN?
<Anuschka> of course.....
<xxxgen> Are you a wholesaler or full distrib
<Anuschka> full.......
<Anuschka> Cause Mike South is talking about how its been passed out all around
<Anuschka> I told him thats kinda funny
<xxxgen> No - I printed up a sample but only really had copies handed out at a couple of trade shows
<Anuschka> Maybe thats what he meant
<xxxgen> It got us some attention - this one we go full bore on - you'll like it - sort of a MAXIM meets the adult world
<xxxgen> not like AVN - not strictly industry - a mainstream adult mag
<Anuschka> Yeah but the adult mag industry is kinda dead dont you think
<Anuschka> Dont take me wrong I like the idea
<xxxgen> that's why the mainstream bent - this is not merely a picture book
<xxxgen> We have a big Stern promotion, and a bunch of other cool things happening
<xxxgen> it is just time for new blood I think - you're right about it being dead - but that's what brings in new and better things
<Anuschka> What you looking at print wise ?
<Anuschka> web offset printing ????
<xxxgen> Yeah - sheet fed cover and poster - the rest web
<xxxgen> you know we have a Serenity pictorial in second issue
<xxxgen> Youy guys do printing too?
<Anuschka> no
<xxxgen> we are printing in Canada right now
<Anuschka> I also do work in the direct mail industry
<Anuschka> Donnelley
<xxxgen> sounds like you can do some good stuff for us - I know you'll like the mag -
<xxxgen> email me if you like and I'll send you out a kit
<Anuschka> I'll make contact with ya in the future
<xxxgen> no prob
<xxxgen> look for XXXgen on newsstands December
<Anuschka> Capitol doesnt really deal with low piece count on purchaes though
<xxxgen> yeah so? what do you mean - you handle AVN - that's pretty low
<Anuschka> it comes free......
<Anuschka> come on now
<Anuschka> :)
<xxxgen> laff** of course it does
<Anuschka> Those all go out as comps to are store
<xxxgen> that's pretty much their only distribution - comps
<Anuschka> We used to have it on stands
<Anuschka> but the turnaround is brutal at best
<xxxgen> we do our own direct mailing and we have the newstands
<Anuschka> like 90% back to the dealer
<xxxgen> Would you pay that much for a mag? we're 4.95
<Anuschka> thats us
<xxxgen> Yeah - well that's why you need a new bent -
<Anuschka> seems like you got a good idea I said though
<xxxgen> funny thiung is advertisers only know how many are printed - not how many are returned
<LindaThor> Luke doesn't say hi to me since he become gay :-)
<LMack> Luke never says hi to me
<MadisonFan-> shake your ass a little bit LMack, he will
<LindaThor> LMack: You're probably not his type...
<LMack> Even though I smooched him once
<l-keford> hey linda, check my site update
<Rall_> porn biz is crazy them :)
<l-keford> hi lmack
<LMack> hi Luke
<LindaThor> Luke: Ok. back in a minute...
<LMack> All that can shaking worked MadFan
<l-keford> i got a letter from linda's ex
<LindaThor> Luke: Hehe, not ONE word is true. Tomas and me talk by phone everyday. I hope you understand that the letter is a fake...
<l-keford> damn!
<LindaThor> Luke: But it was kind of funny to read it. I have saved it for Tomas...he is gonna have real fun reading it...
<l-keford> lol
<MadisonFan-> luke it might be cool to check things out first
<MadisonFan-> but that seemingly comes later
<l-keford> mf, why?
<MadisonFan-> then you dont look as stupid
<LindaThor> Luke: Take it away. If you want it confirmed that it is a fake, mail
<MadisonFan-> people might believe some of the stuff you write if you look into things
<MadisonFan-> luke- did you get any dick this weekend?
<l-keford> yuck
<LindaThor> Luke: Even his name is wrong...
<MadisonFan-> haha
<l-keford> i've labeled it a fake
<MadisonFan-> youd think you could at least check the name out hehe
<LindaThor> Luke: Just make sure that is obvious for all. Big headline: FAKE LETTER
<l-keford> ok, do you have any idea who wrote it?
<LindaThor> Luke: Some that stupid so he think that Santigo is a swedish name...
<LindaThor> Luke: This is the bad side of the way you work. You might do a lot of harm to innocent people.
<LMack> He doesn't care about that Linda, do you Luke?
<l-keford> not true, this letter did not have the potential to do any harm.
<MadisonFan-> not even a simple fact check to make sure the name is correct is utterly ridiculous, even for a subpar "journalist"
<l-keford> My "news" page only contains elements of journalism, i am mainly a talkshow host there...i take "calls"
<l-keford> as stories warrant it, i start investigating
<MadisonFan-> nice way of passing the buck, very clever
<LindaThor> Luke: I know, and mostly I like what you're doing. But I don't like when people uses you anonymiously, (probably misspelled) just to get even on somebody
<l-keford> good point
<l-keford> It was a clever letter, clearly written by someone not tomas and not claiming to be as he uses a different name, and he writes about a "linda thor"
<WarmProp> i see your x is not quite over it, linda :)
<LindaThor> WP: The letter is a fake.
<WarmProp> ah
<LindaThor> Luke: See what you're doing...
<l-keford> oy ve!
<WarmProp> well excellent command of english language whomever wrote it
<LindaThor> Luke..?
<l-keford> yes
<LindaThor> Luke: Take it away..!
<WarmProp> that's futile, luke won't yank it - dosen't matter if it's a fake or not. it's just fodder for the masses
<LindaThor> umea: Not a good time to talk to me at the moment...
<umea> Ok, see you later, bye...
<WarmProp> whomever runs bluenudes.com is my new favorite human
<WarmProp> good glamour photography, completely free
<l-keford> linda, i'm sorry that this must be very grating...i want to keep the letter up there, labeled as a fake, because it is very funny and clever.
* WarmProp plays &127; Radiohead - Street Spirit.mp³ &127; 3938kb &127;
<WarmProp> g'day
*** LindaThor has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)
<anabolicfan> unusual to hear anyone else say 'gday' in here WP!!!
<anabolicfan> its normally 'yo'!!!!
<WarmProp> she might be a bit pissed off
<LMack> It's our intrepid reporter at the bottom that's the problem
<MadisonFan-> im just gonna sit here and not move
<anabolicfan> hey! softcock is here!
<LMack> You'll be doing a Luke F-rd then :)
<LMack> Ahh, nope, silly me, you'd have to backstab and lie too
* anabolicfan has come to a conclusion
<anabolicfan> looking at porn when you are too tired to wank is a waste of time
<WarmProp> i just view porn for the intellectual stimulation and inpiring role models
<WarmProp> jenteal is hotter than janine and batman can whip spidermans ass. lets argue about fictional characters, to which category pornstars belong alongside with frankenstein and godzilla.
<WarmProp> just what i'm pointing out is pornstar's images are like comic book characters, that's the connection
<Jentealf---er> why do some porn chicks like felicia take a big dildo up their ass but refuse to work with a cock?
<Mastrick> What have you been doing Jen
<JenT> [Vivid girl Jenteal] building Dyannas site and moving into my new house
<JenT> I am having fun with it...we are moving into a house we bought so it is fun
<JenT> yup, bought the first house we saw and escrow closes on the 18th, so we are packing up
<Mastrick> Another Jeffrey Dahmer wannabe
<JenT> you guys check everyone who comes in here?
<MadisonFan-> yes JenT
<WarmProp> an ops burden
<JenT> I think that is cool :)
<RayleneFan> hey Jen
<RayleneFan> :)
<MadisonFan-> and we keep our eye on people while theyre here also
* JenT feels safe
<RayleneFan> Jwn : i heard u liked working with raylene a couple months back ?
<JenT> yes she assisted Julia and Janine in doing a DP on me
<Mastrick> Yeah Jen we kick/ban for teen, mutilation, racism, rape, and a coupla other reasons
<JenT> I am trying to get her to sign my contract so I can build her web site and start her a fan club
<JenT> You guys want an inside tip on raylene?
<JenT> Luke F-rd are you listening?
<JenT> She just finished a movie for Vivid
<LMack> The lazy sod'll be reading it in a few hours
<WarmProp> he's been idle 1hr 38mins 26secs
<Andman> he´s not listening, just logging
<JenT> and she did a DP with four different guys in one scene, like a mini DP gangbang
<RayleneFan> :)
<Mastrick> Lukee's gonna log me talkin' more trash about Vivtech hehe
<JenT> I think Bobby was the anchor and three different guys took turns f---ing her in the ass
<JenT> the other three guys were Mr. Marcus, TOny Tedeschi,
<JenT> it was the first time she ever had sex witha black man and it was a DP
<JenT> she said it was great :)
<Mastrick> I'm waiting to see the first movie to see if she's the Czech chick I've seen called 'Nina'
<JenT> she is really pretty czech girl
<xxxgen> Andman: can you go to www.xxxgen.com/chat and look at the source? maybe you can figure out why IE won't work
<Mastrick> I don't like people or companies that try to pull the wool over other peoples' eyes
<`^-_-^`> Luke! Too disjointed and obscene for you to transcribe? When did that ever stop you?
<`^-_-^`> damn... wish ASDG were here, I would beam her over to Luke's pod.
<Andman> hehe
<`^-_-^`> That would be ample distraction til we entered warp and then exited right behind Luke.
<`^-_-^`> Then we could let a Gorn fullfil Luke's gay fantasties.
<l-keford1> suck my cock
<`^-_-^`> you have a cock?
<MadisonFan-> is that what your date last night said ?
* dtano is observing.....
<l-keford1> i'm just outlining my goals and giving them to the universe
<`^-_-^`> You mean you want to suck your cock? Ask Ron Jeremy, he can teach you how to do that.
* `^-_-^` remembers The Devil in Miss Jones where Ron sucked his own cock.. almost drove me away from porn.
Session Start: Sun Nov 14 12:57:55 1999
<l-keford> yo craig, that was not david sturman, it was someone else
<xxxgen> are ya sure? Floor Matt is what I called him
<l-keford> on my site
<MikeSouth> luke you sure that wasnt David...sounds like him
<l-keford> it does, but it was another porner
<MikeSouth> you said it was hirsch
<xxxgen> Bottom line is this guys - I'll compete with all of 'em. Complacency breeds mediocrity - a little competition is good for business - we are here to promote the industry -
<xxxgen> XXXgen is a fan's magazine - PST is a fan's forum - I think its a good mix.
<MikeSouth> come on Luke spill it brother
<MikeSouth> you know more than yer saying
<J0HNG0TTI> or luke says more then he knows (:
<xxxgen> hhhmmmm who pays Luke's salary??
<dtano> Drowner: its up, a bit slow though :)
<l-keford> i talked to another porner, and i just it in david's name, is that unethical?
<xxxgen> No but name the name
<l-keford> can't reveal sources
<MikeSouth> K Luke...see I knew you were f---in with me
<xxxgen> Luke is f---ing with ME!!!
<LMack> Rather promiscuous Luke!
<WarmProp> has luke printed caca again?
<xxxgen> yeah - doesn't he always?
* LMack recognizes a rhetorical question when he sees one
<xxxgen> laff**
<MikeSouth> Craig I gotta fabo idea dude
<MikeSouth> CV talk to me dude
<xxxgen> does it involve killing Luke?
<MikeSouth> not yet anyhow
<xxxgen> then it can't be that fabo!!!
<MikeSouth> That doesnt look like Davids typical diatribe
<J0HNG0TTI> when was it posted?
<xxxgen> Luke - we are working on a huge website - the mag is the legit and allows us better mainstream exposure
<MikeSouth> david is more of a hey, throw it against the wall and see if it sticks
<l-keford> cool
<MikeSouth> that looks more like his henchman Marc
<xxxgen> and it's not a damn PORNO magazine!!!!
<J0HNG0TTI> its a porno mag craig
<MikeSouth> Luke private if ya want but that dont sound like david
<WarmProp> there's somebody reading the logs, picking up bits here and there and making fake mails to Luke. like the Linda one.
<xxxgen> lol - no guys its not - it's really not - its porno goes pop - bubblegum adult stuff
<MikeSouth> Lynne is a f---ing imbecile
<J0HNG0TTI> its a porn mag
<xxxgen> do we care??? it is promo all the same! :)
<J0HNG0TTI> hehe
<xxxgen> JOhnGotti: It is NOT!!!
<MikeSouth> good point CV...now back to my idea
<J0HNG0TTI> lol
<xxxgen> yeah Mike - killing Luke
<MikeSouth> CV you gonna push pst right?
<J0HNG0TTI> if it comes in a brown wrapper and i can jack to it... wait a minute i jacked to readers digest!
<xxxgen> yup - XXXgen will host the web access to the chat
<xxxgen> We have a full page ad in the premier issue
<xxxgen> Hey Luke!! Readers Digest is Porn!!!
<MikeSouth> CV we have a very shootable girl in here right now who is a pst regular
<MikeSouth> never posed before....she will be in Vegas
<xxxgen> SweetJem?
<MikeSouth> lets do a layout and a story...
<MikeSouth> yup she will senbd ya pix
<J0HNG0TTI> what was that mag that mixed music with the porn?
<MikeSouth> she is cute, young natural
<xxxgen> Actually - I have a note here on my desktop - that says get sweetjem for mag....
<MikeSouth> she has the Xgen look too
<J0HNG0TTI> what happened to that mag?
<xxxgen> David Sturman bought it!! :)
<MikeSouth> david is a sucker for a good sales pitch those are HIS own words
<MikeSouth> Hickey is a waste but the guy is an amazingly good writer
<xxxgen> We did a great shoot with Kendra and Taime Downe
<MikeSouth> Kendra actually looks pretty good
<VladTepesJr> he and rikki ractman ever screw each other like everyone says?
<xxxgen> Kendra looks great in all our shots - I havea couple of great photographers down there - Kendra has been cool too
<J0HNG0TTI> i never got the kendra thing till those shots
<VladTepesJr> I admit, she does look better as a brunette
* MikeSouth is thinking of getting a life but nobody on ebay is selling one better'n the one I have
<`^-_-^`> l-keford, do yourself a favor... destroy that camera off yours.
<`^-_-^`> or quitt posting pics on yourr site.
<`^-_-^`> I will take donations to th Lukey camera salvation misssion...anything too stop thiss horror.
<SweetJem> he makes way more money then me....he can buy his own
<xxxgen> yeah - every time Luke pisses someone off they wanna sue me too!!!
<MikeSouth> thats cuz Luke has no money
<MikeSouth> they should sue Ron jeremy
<xxxgen> Ron is a true Jew - something Luke can never be.... that's so sad... :)
<MikeSouth> Ron is Jewish and so is Luke so that makes it a conspiracy
<`^-_-^`> I tried to set Luke up with Ron... but Luke would have none of it....
<xxxgen> Andman - don't know why
<l-keford> hey craig, when will we go membershipped?
<l-keford> and how about setting up a studio in LA?
<xxxgen> January - and I will talk to you this week about helpin me get the LA office set up
<jimmyD> i just spent the LONGEST 105 minutes of my life!
<jimmyD> took my son to see the Pokemon movie
<SweetJem> did he like it?
<SweetJem> my kids are bugging me to take them
<Andman> pokemon?
<jimmyD> yeah...he loved it..then we had to go to burer king cuz they're giving away polemon toys with a kid's meal
<jimmyD> f--- porno...im gonna think up some new kid character
<l-keford> jimmy d, give luke the scoop!
<jimmyD> how about "Lukemon"
<jimmyD> pokemon is not ONE character...pokemon is a bunch of characters
<jimmyD> just like luke
<jimmyD> but unlike luke, pokemon characters have supernatural powers
<jimmyD> i shot one f---ing scene last night..shoulda gone two..threee hours...we started at 5pm and didnt get done till 12:30am
<jimmyD> murphy's law was alive and well on my set
<jimmyD> i shot at a little theater...there were two theaters there (live theaters). the other theater had a show going...they said when it was quiet in their show, they could hear the girls moaning and screaming and stuff
<jimmyD> Plaid 2
<jimmyD> luke...i see craig scored some points with matt taylor..hehehehe
<jimmyD> luke, like most of the porn biz..clear ownership of companies is always unclear
<jimmyD> tell her you read in cosmo that women who maintain a large bush are more susceptible to yeast infections or some other s---
<InuYasha> ...don't screw girls with bushes, ...that's sick, shave em, then f--- em!
<xxxgen> done - its at the printers now - been fighting with them all day :)
<jimmyD> tell her that shaving greatly reduces the possibility of getting the crabs
<xxxgen> of course Jimmy!!! You're the man!
<jimmyD> someday..when xxgen is big..im gonna take those preview issues i still have and put em up on ebay as collectors items
<xxxgen> Lots of stuff in this one - reprinted a few articles from the last one - but I have you writing in this one!!
<jimmyD> first issue of playboy is worth thousands (course, it has marilyn monroe on the cover), first issue of Sports Illustrated is worth more (cours, it has them basseball bcards in them), but a preview issue could be worth even more than a first issue!
<VladTepesJr> which one will the PsT Article be in, Craig?
<xxxgen> Rodger Jacobs was supposed to write one but didn't so I'm workin on one for next issue
* MikeSouth hates to disaagree wit da boss...but Janine is LAME
<MikeSouth> shoulda let me interview her
<xxxgen> we like everybody here
<MikeSouth> porn dont need nice girls...porn needs SLUTS
<MikeSouth> you may quote me on that Luke
<xxxgen> :) and I'll get sued!!
<xxxgen> Janine is on the cover
<MikeSouth> sorry but IMHO Janine is NO pornstar
<xxxgen> mainstream likes Janine guys - goyya play to the masses
<xxxgen> :) XXXgen is not a porn magazine :)
<Darth_Whack> we are the mainstream
<MikeSouth> theres always room for dissenting opinions
<xxxgen> you guys are so not the mainstream!!!
<JT27> never saw a Janine movie... never wanted to!
<MikeSouth> so long as they acknowledge my superior porn intellect :)
<Darth_Whack> yeah we are craig
<Darth_Whack> we keep people like you in buisness
<xxxgen> Mike South sits alone on top of the mountain
<xxxgen> you guys are the hardcore fans - we have to teach what you know to the mainstream fans
<HellDude> I decided to see what this was all about after readin Lukes site
<MikeSouth> Im just goofin
<InuYasha> who's luke anyways? why do you guys keep beating on him?
<HellDude> yeah, but to have name recognition as a male porn performer is an accomplishment in itself
<Darth_Whack> cause we can
<Darth_Whack> still dont mean you get paid fer s---
<JT27> InuYashha: read l-keford... than decide for yourself who he is...
<Darth_Whack> we haven't decided what he is yet
<Darth_Whack> A Jew, a gay, a gay jew, who knows?
<`^-_-^`> Lukee, if I had even Kendr in front of me, I wuuld try to make her look good....
<HellDude> perhaps a ploy to attract women...
<MikeSouth> Luke is da f---in BOMB
<`^-_-^`> Let me share some wissdom with you if I may...
<HellDude> the thought of him and Gene Ross in a gay embrace is very depressing
<Darth_Whack> Well, Luke has a picture of him on his site blowing Gene
<JT27> not that there's anything wrong with that...
<Vapor1> the reason I don't think luke is gay is simple
<Darth_Whack> what?
<Vapor1> there's no gay porn coverage on his site
<`^-_-^`> ok starting over with full concentration.
<Vapor1> some minor stuff sometimes
<Darth_Whack> there is a link to a gay site on his site though
<HellDude> mostly just Albos crusade against Peter North
<Darth_Whack> yeah, and the site is just, so gay
<Darth_Whack> Hey Luke, I dare you to call up Peter North and ask him if he would be willing to make a movie with you
<HellDude> I dunno if Luke could handle Peter
<Darth_Whack> I would have to give serious props to anyone who did that
<Darth_Whack> and had the balls to post it on his site
<Vapor1> luke is not gay
<Vapor1> luke is not religious
<Vapor1> luke is just luke
<Darth_Whack> luke is not a journalist
<Vapor1> and I don't even know the f---er
<HellDude> King of IRC, Luke F-rd =)
<Darth_Whack> ALL HAIL Luke F-rd!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<l-keford> i luv u all
<JT27> I think Luke is goofing on everyone!
<Darth_Whack> there you go Luke, you have sucesfully brainwashed us
<HellDude> lol, pornstar trading should just become a Luke F-rd discussion group
<l-keford> :)
<HellDude> how he works, eats, sleeps, loves
<HellDude> I particularly enjoy the reparte between Luke and NJG
<Darth_Whack> I actually avoid that part
<HellDude> the yin to his yang
<HellDude> hehe
<`^-_-^`> 1. Luke, when you take pics of pornstars, do your damndest to make them look good.. Even if they aggravate you with makeup time an all. It is worth it and they will prolly nolt give you so many excuses the next time you want to take their pics.
<HellDude> well, i find myself trailing away somewhere in the middle of their conversations
<Darth_Whack> The letter is a FAKE but I'll publish it anyway:
<Darth_Whack> I like that
<Darth_Whack> heheh
<HellDude> hehe
<njg> Linda seemed really pissed
<l-keford> yes
<HellDude> that set of pics Luke took of the day at Robs house is burned into my brain
<HellDude> nd not in a good way
<Vapor1> I like how luke told a joke about linda anyway, even after he pissed her off
<HellDude> if you were really gay Luke, you'd put those right back up on your site =)
<njg> the ultimate egoism
<Vapor1> the guy really doesn't give a f---
<HellDude> if Lukes not afriad of Metro and the "mafia" he won't be afraid of Linda Thoren
<Vapor1> JT27: linda joked around that she wouldn't sleep with luke. so he made a joke with the p.o.v. of her after they slept together
<HellDude> its a pretty sad commentary about our society when you see how far away people got from the original ideals of Woodstock
<HellDude> I'd say its more aout sexual aggression nowadays then it was then
<njg> hmmm, do you think it is influenced by media and or porn??
<HellDude> porn is a scapegoat for people who can't dig deep enough to find real problems
<cocko> hey im between 18 and 24 and i reckon the thing is theres that sexual sort of vibe going round anyway and some people overstep that mark between whats like acceptable
<cocko> like its a known fact in the mosh when a girl goes up all guys will have a grab at here tits
<HellDude> no guy in their right mind says "hey, I bet that girl wants to get raped anally in front of a large crowd, cuz Houston liked it"
<njg> if you're in the mosh pit and people are grabbing a girl do you also partake?
<HellDude> its about spontanaity, but there are still certain things that are appropriate
<HellDude> and not
<flea^> when she is being pushed to the front like u know being pushed along most hands end up on the tits its not like a group groping session
<njg> but is that appropriate at all?
* `^-_-^` is thrilled yet boredd.
<HellDude> well, there is the theory that a girl/woman accepts certains conditions when she enters that kind of situation
<njg> the thing is, when Nirvana and them were around girls were welcomed in the front
<JT27> hey , shae was asking for it!... hehe
<njg> now when a girl is in the front it is seen as a time for sexual assaulting her
<faldo> If a girl knows that and does it anyway,,,does that not change things
<HellDude> njg: "decline of western civilization" I suppose
<faldo> Becase there will always be chicks who like to get groped, and they ruin it for the ones who want to mosh,,,
<njg> do men have to participate in that degradation?
<faldo> No, but given the choice, they will.
<HellDude> well essentially, men are responsible for that degradation
<njg> why?
<njg> yes
<Vapor1> I think njg's point is that there are girls who just want to be at the front and not be groped
<HellDude> thats the effect of testosterone methinks
<faldo> but,, you are not going to change the nature of the beast
<MikeSouth> NJG not all men do but dont throw yourself into the middle of a gangbang and then piss and moan because you never said no and you got f---ed
<HellDude> get into a wild situation, and you blur the line between fun and violation
<njg> a gangbang is not a pop event
<flea^> its just good natured sexual fun, but then theres the guy who thinks because hes pissed and theres women who hes felt up he can rape her in fornt of everyone
<MikeSouth> if you know what happens when you go into a mosh pit and it happens...whats the diff
<njg> Mike, I don't think you understand the dynamics
<HellDude> the thing is Mike, that a woman shouldn't have to accept that kind of treatment
<MikeSouth> the dynamics are that you dont want to take responsibility for your own actions
<Darth_Whack> Hey, if a woman doesnt want to be part of that, I suggest that she kicks the first person to grab her in the nuts, and then message will be passed on
<MikeSouth> but until you say no you are implying consent
<njg> Darth many girls did that at woodstock and were still raped
<MikeSouth> same as in a gangbang
<njg> girls were raped in the bathrooms at Woodstock
<HellDude> I mean, if they called it "Gangbang 99" I doubt many girls would have showed
<njg> girls were not allowed to pass by guys without showing them their breasts
<njg> girls were afraid
<HellDude> even if there were good bands =)
<Darth_Whack> cause I know plenty of women who would kick the s--- out of men
<Darth_Whack> I live in a town FULL of lesbians
<njg> Olympia = home of the riot grrl!
<Darth_Whack> Im serious, there have been reports of women going around beating the f--- out of men here
<HellDude> anyone here seen those specials on A&E about gay gangs?
<l-keford> lol
<Darth_Whack> Yeah, it's good, and let me tell you, the rape percentage here is pretty low nowadays
<Sultana^> can I ask you guys about a car and you tell me if its any good
<JT27> I hate lesbians... they never putout on dates
<MikeSouth> heheheh gay gangs
<njg> I'm packing my cats right now!
<MikeSouth> they chase down a female
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<MikeSouth> and hold her down
<njg> tell Luke!
<MikeSouth> while one does her her hair
<JT27> Sultana: shoot
<Sinatra153> lol
<HellDude> its nuts
<HellDude> they just go around beating the hell out of heterosexuals
<njg> Lukey didn't suck your dick good enough Mike?
<MikeSouth> I don not believe that gov has the right to impose those kinds of things on a private business
<HellDude> hehe, this may be youth speaking, but is there BAD oral sex?
<HellDude> hehe, guess it should be "not so nice jewish girl"
<MikeSouth> why should it be free cuz njg thinks the banks are too greedy
<MikeSouth> I get really irritated when some moron thinks that they may vote themselves some imagined RIGHT to give the government the power to hold a gun to my head and make me GIVE them my money so that they may in turn give it to someone who "needs it more than I do"
<MikeSouth> I care when people think they have a right to FORCE me to pay for thier laziness
<l-keford> kj is trying to get in
<l-keford> and it says she is banned?
<MikeSouth> whoever banned kendra must lift it
<JimGunn> Why is Kendra banned?
<njg> can kendra come in ?
<MikeSouth> whoever banned kendra has to unban her...I wont over ride another ops ban
<MikeSouth> I think either diablo or ed banned her
<Loudness-br> at least I didn;t ban her
<Darth_Whack> D did, I think, but that was a long time ago
<Loudness-br> I let her on the channel
<MikeSouth> i dint ban her and I know vlad didnt
<JT27> haven't see Ed in days
<Darth_Whack> He's gambling his life away, JT
<MikeSouth> ed has been in bilouxi
<Darth_Whack> damn, there are a lot of bans though
<Loudness-br> wacko: a lot of sickos and weirdos show up here
<Loudness-br> weirdos and sickos are Roxy's words
<Darth_Whack> not to mention people who are gonna try and exploit the channel
<RoxanneFan> Unban
<JimGunn> Unban Kendra already
<MikeSouth> OPS vote
<LMack> Hehehe
<Loudness-br> do whatever you want Mike
<RoxanneFan> all three of you?
<Loudness-br> I don't mind
<Loudness-br> you're an op Mike
<MikeSouth> I dont care either but wont lift another ops ban
<Darth_Whack> I sont care
<Loudness-br> feel free to unban her
<Darth_Whack> By the time we figure out wether or not to unban her, she isn't gonna be there anymore :)
<MikeSouth> and it is not my place to override or question an ops decision
<MikeSouth> agree with it or not
<JimGunn> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm willing to bet she wasn't banned for any good reason.
<LMack> Diablo banned her 6 days ago
<Darth_Whack> Diablo banned her MONTHS ago
<LMack> (or rebanned her)
<RoxanneFan> Lmack: you know why?
<Darth_Whack> but someone let her back in
<Darth_Whack> only a few people know exactly why
<JimGunn> So never mind the protocal bulls---...WHY is she banned?????????????
<LMack> I don't know
<Darth_Whack> no one really knows Jim
<Elf69> any of you guys been to the site www.cumonherface.com really nice facial site. Anybody kknow who is responsible for bringing this site to the web?
<MikeSouth> loud and I discussed it and we would not want our bans lifted
<JimGunn> Maybe some of the ops ought to rethink why they are banning people esopecially if no one knows what
<MikeSouth> Jim the system has worked well so far
<JimGunn> So ask Diablo why at least
<Loudness-br> MikeSouth: ask Vlad about it
<Darth_Whack> JimGunn, I do know that why she was banned was something Diablo did for some reason, and he wouldn't really tell anyone the exact reason why
<MikeSouth> kendra may petition ed to have the ban lifted
<JimGunn> My point exactly one little dictator ought to have this questioned.
<J0HNG0TTI> someone told me i think she was just talkin s--- to someone
<MikeSouth> there is a proceedure for redress and it should be followed
<Darth_Whack> Diablo started to tell me but I told him to stop cause it really wasn't any of my buisness
<JimGunn> Ok if you guys are so big onprotocal there ought to be an appeal process to other than the op responsible for the ban.
<jimmyD> well no offense to diable, and im not questioning his fairness...but i know he has motive there that would not make him too impartial
<RoxanneFan> tomorrow on l-keford: "Kendra banned from pornworld"
<jimmyD> im sayin diablo might not be ther person to make that decision..but it doesnt matter now..dones' done..she'll never come back
<Loudness-br> if luke put this conversation in his site, I'll ban him!
<Loudness-br> hehehehhehehehhehehehehheheheheh
<J0HNG0TTI> hehe
<MikeSouth> I would not want another op lifting my bans
<JimGunn> Why wouldnt she come back Jimmy?
<MikeSouth> without asking me at least
<Darth_Whack> JD: heres the thing, someone let her back in last week
<jimmyD> cuz shez that way
<MikeSouth> ops here are earned
<jimmyD> i know her well
<MikeSouth> and respect for other ops decisions is important
<JimGunn> Ok Jimmy I believe you. Without knowing the details, I have the feeling that is is totally unfair
<MikeSouth> the ban may be unfair but lifting the ban would be just as unfair
<jimmyD> i dont think that an op who has or has had an offline relationship with someone...regardless of what that was..is the right person to be banning people'
<Loudness-br> okay children...... Uncle Ed will be here soon, and he will decide what to do
<JimGunn> Jimmy I'm not even privy to that info., but I just have a hunch from all the double speak and hiding behind regulations going on here that here is soenmthing crooked going on here.
<Darth_Whack> Jesus, who needs her tho, I mean, we have DD, Zoe, and Jenteal here right now
<JenT> kendra is banned? guess I am late in the game tonight
<zoexxx> I leave in 4 hours
<zoexxx> red eye
<l-keford> check my update, PST EXPOSED!
<Darth_Whack> and the masses flock to www.l-keford.com
<Darth_Whack> holy s--- luke, you didnt
<MikeSouth> videoed owns the channel and has proven himself fair and beyond reproach
<MikeSouth> ed may lift a ban
<Darth_Whack> Good write up, Luke
<DiGiorgio> when hez sober
<l-keford> Jenteal, do you have a policy on obtaining redress for banned porn stars?
<JenT> explain Luke
<l-keford> l-keford.com
<JenT> redress?
<JimGunn> Well all I have to say is it sounds like a bunch of bs, i really don't have any stake in Kendra being here, I just have a "hunch" that this is all bs.
<Delaney_Daniels> I don't think that because of "pornstar" status anyone should have a right to come in and be an ass, simply because they without threat of being banned ( not saying anything about KJ, I don't know the story there~Just adressing banning pornstars in general)
<DiGiorgio> you dealing with a dyed-in-the-wool anti-establishment type here (with me) so the whole OP concept i'm not too keen on....
<DiGiorgio> if everyone got banned cuz they came in here at one time or another and were an ASS....everyone would be banned
<JimGunn> l-keford, what's with this Chain Amalek fellow. Is this more fiction?
<Darth_Whack> however, I am sure the ban had more to do that just being an asshole
<MikeSouth> Jim kendra has not even asked officially to be unbanned
<DiGiorgio> im sure it did...DW, and that's what im questioning
<Darth_Whack> Diablo is a fair op, in my opinion
<DiGiorgio> and i doubt she will, mike
<Delaney_Daniels> hasn't KJ been banned a few times though?
<Darth_Whack> JD, but she was here the other day
<MikeSouth> BA will never be in this channel as long as I am here
<l-keford> lf.com has late breaking details, hit reload
<DiGiorgio> BT has been here and been as ASS often enough...havent seen diablo banning her
<MikeSouth> you dont know the BA history here and asm and pornchat
<Darth_Whack> Hey Luke, you shoulda wrote that Diablo had NJG believing he was a rapper
<LMack> Damn Luke, cutting 'n pasting as if you're on speed :)
<DiGiorgio> all im sayin is, if i would pick one op who shouldnt be involved in the banning of KJ, or BT or some others..it'd be diab...and i like diab..but that's my opinion
<Loudness-br> wow! That's kendra's power!!! She can open a great discuss/argue even out of the channel
<DiGiorgio> diablo should not be involved in the banning of BA either
<Loudness-br> l-keford: I hope to not see this discussion in your site!!!!!!!!
<MikeSouth> I thinkit shows us to be orderly and honest
<DiGiorgio> uh oh...luke's about to get banned
<Darth_Whack> heheheh...
<DiGiorgio> in portugese even
<Darth_Whack> "Luke F-rd BANNED FROM PORN"
<Darth_Whack> "MILLIONS DONT CARE"
<DiGiorgio> luke was kicked for logging..which is against the rules i understand
<l-keford> i represent the interests of the people, they have a right to know what is being said here because it could affect their vital stroking interests.
<JenT> hehehe, Luke is self appointed representative, and a funny one at that
<Darth_Whack> Three of the most beautiful women in the adult industry are here in this channel right now, I dont think we could handle any more
<DirtyBob> Not looking good - it looks like they may really ban Tampa lap dancing (aaaaaghhh!)
<DiGiorgio> luke is the voice of the people...unfortunately, not the sort of people most people want to meet
<JenT> I think your site is entertaining whether I am reading logs from irc or the spoofs
* DiGiorgio wonders if stevie shares jenT's amusement with the 'spoofs'
<JimGunn> Uh, more encouragement from Jenteal..I think Luke's site is either great or a waste of my valuable time depending solely on whether I can trust what is being said is true.
* DirtyBob wishes that Luke's lap never have the pleasure of indulging in a Tampa-style lap dance.
<JenT> well, Luke has never "spoofed" me so maybe I have a different view than some, like paul fishbine for example, hehe
<DiGiorgio> when luke is bad..hes even better
<JimGunn> ...and when he is bad it is the WORST
<JenT> I think some people take you way to seriously....
<Darth_Whack> and when he is average, he is gay
<DiGiorgio> i always enjoy luke...except for the ramblings of lynn L-patin and the inane convos with NJG
<J0HNG0TTI> njg is lukes robin quivers
<l-keford> Do you guys think avn promotes misogyny and racism cause it gaves lynne's movie "indigo moods" only two stars?
<Delaney_Daniels> if a movie sucks it sucks...AVN covers all genres pretty fairly
<MikeSouth> Luke yer nitwit
<JimGunn> l-keford, you give this discussion WAY to much import
* DirtyBob wonders if Luke quoted that from one of Jim Gunn's recent ramblings...?
<JimGunn> This is the equivalent of idle chatter
<DiGiorgio> it's a TEMPEST IN A psT-POT
<l-keford> I think it sheds valuable light into constitutional struggles and the doctrine of "original intent."
<MikeSouth> if it were my call Kendras ban would be lifted but it is NOT my call
<JimGunn> Actually Luke, it has more to do with "parliamentary procedures" but you are just goofing anyeay
<RoxanneFan> I think it's a bunch of people in a chat room!
<Delaney_Daniels> it's a chat room on IRC, I doubt we need to constitutional law specialists brought into it
<DiGiorgio> that's what they said at Nuremburg, Mike: "if it was my call, no one woulda killed anyone"
<Delaney_Daniels> we all know if KJ wants to come in, she can get right back in
* DirtyBob breathes a sigh of relief that Luke isn't on the "Who Wants to be a Millionaire" show 'cause he would take the full 30 minutes trying to figure out the $100 question..
<MikeSouth> JimmyD if they vote to execute Kendra I will step in
<Darth_Whack> For as much as I hate the word, it's all about "Net-iquite" or however you spell that
<l-keford> The Founding Fathers never meant for the First Amendment to cover pornography!
<MikeSouth> kendra can almost certainly have the ban lifted if she wants to
<DiGiorgio> if diablo was a potential juror deciding on KJ's ban...he'd be excused from juror duty
<DiGiorgio> your are so f---ing wrong luke!!!!!!
<JimGunn> Luke the founding fathers never meant for the Constitution to cover women or blacks either.
<JimGunn> But we have decided they do
<DiGiorgio> leave it to an australian jew homo to interpret the constitution
<JenT> Kudos to JimGunn
<DiGiorgio> sorry JG...i meant to say "jew bastard' homo...
<JenT> what is with all this Jew talk? And why is it always such a big topic?
<JimGunn> If I was Jewish Luke I'd be offended by you Luke I gotta admit
<MikeSouth> I seem to remember that Kendra got banned for continuously leaving saying f--- you guys I am never comiing back
<JenT> yes?
<DiGiorgio> i dont take offense at all luke's bulls--- about italian mobsters
<`^-_-^`> cause of Luke
<JimGunn> Jimmy but you are not an Italian mobster
<J0HNG0TTI> JenT: just a joke amongst me, jimmy, and sturnman
<DiGiorgio> and of course, there are no italian mobsters
<J0HNG0TTI> none at all
<JenT> why cause of Luke?
<JT27> none in porn anyway ;)
<DiGiorgio> the mafia is a myth perpetuated by aussie jew bastard homos
<DiGiorgio> the israelis..of course...they all have that disease anyway..the one where whenver your lips move, you lie
<DiGiorgio> if he's israeli, his last name is probly Lies
<JimGunn> Is the Graham Chapman character going to have to bust into PST here and tell you al you are acting too sily?
<DiGiorgio> zoe should go out with diablo so she can get banned and then have a life
<MikeSouth> Jen from what I hear Neve was VERY comfortable...not an unusual situation for her
<Delaney_Daniels> South I read in an interview they both knocked back a shot o tequila first they were so nervous
<JenT> If it was me, I would have had a shot beofre the scene too, and I have had sex with plenty of women on camera
<JenT> I would have been nervous about kissing someone so beautiful
<Delaney_Daniels> I wouldn't LOL I'd have been like a 16 year boy and been done in 3 seconds though
<DiGiorgio> Hmmm...nice herb...tangy yet subtle...with a nice, fruity bouquet
<JT27> lol jimmy
<JimGunn> I'm smokin' cheap weed tonight jimmy.
<DiGiorgio> its not an idea....i used to get plenty hanging around 12 stpprs
<DirtyBob> Luke, does the light in the closet go off when the door is closed. . .? heh heh heh
<Delaney_Daniels> I smoke once in a great while, but only if I can be in my own house
<JenT> but it would increase the obesity rate....although most women in the biz I know that smoke are thin
<JenT> where does speed fall into the pot smoking equation?
<JenT> smoke pot and do speed?
<DiGiorgio> they are mutually exclusive drugs, jent
<JimGunn> I kinda agree with Jimmy abou weed, i smoke almost daily.
<Delaney_Daniels> hey now, I don't do do speed...count me out of there..I just live on cappucino's
<JimGunn> Ittakes the edge off.
<JenT> I think I must have stopped drug use way to young to have any idea what is going on in the world of altered reality
<DiGiorgio> being stoned is like being a butter knive in a butcher shop
<DiGiorgio> of all the things i've lost, i miss the contents of my first hard drive before it crashed
<JenT> maybe it is your drive or burner - did you put the disk in right side up? hehehe
<DiGiorgio> i had proof that aliens live amongst us on that hard drive
<adamjm> so kendra is banned for telling NJG that diablo isn't black?
<adamjm> nice fact checking and getting both sides of the story as usual luke
<l-keford> :)
<adamjm> way to let a biased low rent opinion like brandy's get up in the story
<OhMyGodAllMyPornIsGONE> isnt logging for personal gain/profit against the rules?
<JimGunn> Luke is quiet usually
<njg> hmmm, we're supposed to talk to someone
<MikeSouth> more psuedo intellectual claptrap
<l-keford> i'm talking with john decker
<njg> so why aren't you calling me?
<njg> call me NOW!
<l-keford> he's not ready
<njg> oh why?
<Sinatra153> 3some?
<njg> well what is he saying Luke?
<njg> ok Luke, make an appointment with him
<njg> LUKE I am sleepy and want to go to bed!
<MikeSouth> put her to bed Luke
<njg> lol
<adamjm> yes please
<MikeSouth> tuck her in she had a hard night
<adamjm> put her ass to bed
<adamjm> so we don't all get headaches
<MikeSouth> she was abused by the evil mean libertarian
<JackEvil> You want to do a three way with John decker Luke?Maybe you were serious about coming out..
<adamjm> was there ever any doubt
<zoexxx> ok all, I have to get ready to catch my plane, be back next sunday night
<l-keford> njg is sucking on john's cock
<JackEvil> jealous Luke??
<l-keford> nah
<l-keford> did you ever meet reuben sturman?
<JackEvil> No byt I remember seeing him on the news all the time with masks on his face walking out of courthouses on the news.
<JackEvil> I understand sturman was into selling kiddie porn,he deserved to be locked up.
<Joner> Luke.....remember me?
<Joner> .not likely.....just asking.
<l-keford> yes buddy
<l-keford> you sent me lots of emails
<l-keford> reviews of 8mm
<JackEvil> You worried about getting sued by Laurie Holmes Luke?It might cost you at least some legal fees?
<l-keford> no to all of above
<Joner> luke.....why dont you contact gary?
<JackEvil> Ba Ba Boeeeeeey!!!!!!
<JackEvil> Maybe I will catch JenTeal here some time,i want to ask her about sitting next to Hank the angry drunk dwarf when he was pissing on himself.
<Joner> luke..since youre gay......any current guy friends?
<Joner> the world wants to know..who's banging luke......
<l-keford> i just talked to the last woman i banged, it was 3months ago
<Joner> Lube Ford??
<JackEvil> Mila is a nice jewish girl Luke if you want to be instructed about the in's and out of anal you could hook up with her
<Joner> luke do you listen to syern when fishy is on?
<JackEvil> oh OK."i'm not a pornographer" fischbein.
<JackEvil> I don't understand Gloria Leonards ranting at stern for not wanting to show up at the awards show.He promotes porn,what difference does it make if he comes or not
<Joner> then one day a stripper showed up and its been all downhill ever since
<Sinatra153> I don't remember when it was ever like that
<Joner> well...it only lasted for about the first five minutes..then Tiffany came in to flashed her knobs...
<Joner> howard stern is a target for everyone fronm all sides
<Joner> howard the hypocrite?...shocking news gloria..yawn.
<Joner> like howard owes her a donation.....
<Joner> i could see her requests becoming quite bothersome.....
<JackEvil> Maybe a sperm donation!
<Joner> send this.....send something..please.....
<Joner> like don has nothing better to do then deal with her
<Joner> gloria......buy a friggin book and say that howard sent it..impress the crwods.
<l-keford> good night all
<Joner> goodnight lube ford
<JackEvil> Howard said he would send Gary the retard to the show.Later Luke.
<Joner> thats for the AVNs
<Joner> gary the retard.//" hey everybody......." he'd fit in all right
<Joner> gary the retard as the typical porn coonsumer image