Archives - Wednesday, June 2nd, 1999

Interracial Porn

Many porn girls won't do interracial sex because they believe that most of the black male talent act like animals. An anonymous porn star told me 5/28/99: "I met Jim Malibu at Jim South's. Malibu shoots black and interracial for Vivid. I was doing interracial at the time. That was hell on wheels. After that, I no longer did interracial. It was such an unpleasant experience working with these guys. I worked with Devlin Weed and Darren James."

Luke remembers one day in the summer of 1998 that he learned that three black male porn performers had just been arrested by police for offences ranging from theft to battery. Just as porners in general have a well deserved reputation for destructive behavior, young black single males, in and out of porn, have also earned a particularly dangerous reputation.

Real2reel writes on RAME: "There is a big difference between "most" and "all". I still question why black girls will usually take facials from white guys, but not from black guys. No one can seem to answer that yet. Some people will bitch to no end about white girls who won't do black guys, but no one ever seems to bitch about black girls who won't do white guys. In case your curious, I am white and where I live, whites are the very small minority."

Alex: "Am I the only one who's getting sick and tired of this instigative, reverse psychology crap from Luke F-rd? Last time, Samantha Strong was caught using the "n" word and it was corroborated by her _black_ boyfriend."

Pirate: "I will not dignify flaming Luke but since he is allowed to post such trash I would like to answer. Luke is very much biased against people of color, just read his website section that describes blacks. He is deliberately attempting to use his status as a journalist to perpetuate his feelings about blacks onto the porn industry. RAME is not fooled by his attempts, please keep your political agenda to yourself and stop trying to make it look as though you are not alone in your prejudice. No one person should be allowed to call an entire group of people 'animals'. It is a shame that RAME should have to endure his consistent deceptions and opinions."

Mark Mays: "One bad experience was all it took for this rocket scientist to change her views? My my. What ever happened to "Once you go black . . . ?" I guess white talent dumping girls heads in toilets and so on is okay."

JeffAD: "It's one thing to quote/report a piece of racist gibberish, but it's quite another to endorse the quoted hatespeech. An endorsement of the characterization "animals" is precisely and unequivocally what you've offered in your post and, evidently, your website as well.

"You may see yourself as merely playing devil's advocate here or trying to get a rise out of people with deliberately offensive comments and if that's the case...I still don't care. It's reprehensible, Luke, it's unforgivable and it earns you (along with a couple dozen other things I could mention) a zero star rating in your own ethics guide. To paraphrase Kurt Vonnegut; be careful what you pretend to be because what we pretend to be we eventually become…

"Finally Luke I've looked at your site and once I got past all the retractions, I found some photos there. Photos of you at conventions, and at porn shoots too, all appearing well, not so much like Fox Files' anti-porn crusader as a guy who's pretty chummy with some porn folks and who has an occasion to see them semi-frequently at least. So, next time you see Devlin, Sean Michaels, or Mr. Marcus will you be informing them that they're mere animals?"

Many black male performers, such as Devlin Weed, Tony Everready, Byron Long and Jimmy Z. - whose 18-year old daughter does porn - appear nasty, thus providing little incentive for leading white girls to do them. Ron Hightower's White Chick series features black guys talking about their latest prison stints and how they plan to f--- white bitches.

"The porn industry...grinds in the most pejorative views of blacks it can find (all those ghetto movies)," writes Pat Riley on RAME. "Pornographers perpetuate the stereotypical view of a shiftless, just-out-of-prison, socially maladapted group. [Racism in porn]...is not some [white] actress who doesn't want to screw a black guy (for whatever reason) but a concerted attempt by the producers to appeal to the basest elements of the viewing population."

The porn industry tends to attract the scum of the earth. And porn product is largely consumed by the lowest types. Thus, porn seems to contaminate most of those who touch it, making them more vulgar. And much of the most vulgar porn is the all-black ghetto porn.

"The success of Devil's Films/IVC, says www.avn.com, "is due…to the lust of their directors… These are guys who love black pussy."

Midori gave AVN a high minded reason for why she entered porn:

"I thought there was a lack of African-American people, women especially, being promoted in the same way as my blond counterparts. It baffled my mind and it pissed me off, so I did everything I could do to make it where a black woman was able to be on the same level, so to speak, within this business. I've been in the business four years, and I've seen a lot of changes."

Mr. Marcus gave a different reason: "Just f---ing. I didn't get into it for political reasons or anything like that; I'm just really geared towards women."

Like Midori, colored porn girl India stays away from the low end black porn. "Stuff like, Dirty Black Bitch, or Yo Bitch Get On the Bus. For me, as a black woman, it's hard enough to get respect, and I wanted that respect, so I wanted to come to the business to show that every girl is not a ho, and every girl is not stupid." You won't find much introspection in the www.avn.com interview for the role that bad behavior by some blacks has played a significant role in the negative way that blacks as a group are viewed, both inside and outside the porn industry (just as bad behavior by Jews, and other members of minority groups has negatively affected the way their group is viewed by the majority).

Jake Steed points out that many leading white pornographers have long proclaimed that black porn won't sell. Jake credits white guys Ed Powers and Chris Mann (Video Team) for turning around the situation. "What you see is a bunch of white guys trying to commercialize the new untapped market of blacks," says Steed, "and the blacks don't have any power to capitalize on it, 'cause they've been so broke, trying to survive, trying to get work. Now that the black market's open, all the companies (no offense to Chris, he's one of the first ones to do it) that are doing black movies are all white. They're just commercializing it. All these places cannot duplicate a black experience.

"…[B]lacks in America know what it's like to deal with racism. They've grown up with it. They want something that's from someone who's suffered like they've suffered, who's in their corner. They're willing to support that. They don't like to buy a movie that they know was constructed by some people who are just exploiting them.

"We can't get to the point where we say, "I made it, therefore everybody else can." That's like, Bill Cosby attitude. You have to be pro-black." (AVN)

Luke fails to see how being pro-black is any morally different from the pro-white attitude of the KKK. Chris Mann, who's probably done more than anybody to make black porn popular, gets little credit from most of the blacks in this interview.

Midori notes that there are still clubs that won't book her to dance because she is black.

Steed, Marcus and India say that the audience for black porn is 90% black. Midori says most of her fans are white.

Steed complains: "When a new girl comes into the industry, they say, "Oh, don't work with black guys, it'll ruin your image.""

Mr. Marcus points out that many white girls do not judge Steed as black because of his light skin.

Midori tells www.avn.com: "Sometimes I get confused, because I'm black and I have a cause I'm trying to support, which is me being pro-black and trying to do great things and show that we are capable of doing it and we can make a lot of money and get a lot of prestige from it. At the same time, I don't want to alienate all the other people that support me, who are of different races. I guess I'm a lot like Sean, I don't want to have any color lines."

Jake responds: "I disagree. I have color lines. I don't like what the whites have done to the blacks in this industry. I'm on the black side, I'm pro-black, and as far as blacks are concerned, if you're not pro-black, you need to stand back."

Chris Mann asked Jake how he felt about white companies hiring blacks to direct. Jake: "The stipulations that were put on the movie were so strict that it wasn't really a true black product. As long as a black man is working for a white man, making him money off his own race, that's bad. It's going to have to come to the point where distributors are going to have to support their own people, that's how it's going to go."

Mann points out how the porn industry degrades blacks and whites. There is the series, for instance, White Trash Whore. Mann wonders why Vivid leaves out blacks when it puts up billboards.

Midori says that without Mann's Video Team, there'd be no product lifting up black women.

Mann: "In cable markets, they wanted to see the white guy f---ing the black girl, but they wouldn't accept a black guy f---ing a white girl."

This is changing as cable gets raunchier. Black guys doing white girls, connotes to many people, increased raunch.

Chris Mann told AVN that cable execs believed that viewers in the deep South would be offended by black men doing white women. And that "Video Team came along and broke that barrier with the help of the Adam & Eve Channel, who did it first, then Playboy TV, then the Spice Channel. Now they actually request all-black product. And what they found is that the complaints that they were expecting, David Duke KKK guys calling to cancel their cable, it just didn't happen. It was a perceived taboo. It's not that the market didn't want it, it was that the cable companies were afraid to show it."

Jake Steed says that "black men like thicker women, more voluptuous women. White guys get scared when they see a thick woman. Take a girl like Janet Jacme, who's probably one of the favorite girls within the black community. The white guys didn't even like her, they thought her ass was too big! She didn't get that much work. She got low-budget, low-end work and she got kicked out of the business. And people worshipped this girl!"

Midori and Cinnabunz say black women are more comfortable with their bodies than white women.

Midori: "In the late '80s, there were a lot of girls with the same body type, like Persia, Toy, Champagne.

The new image is like girls like me and India and Dee."

Mann says there's little demand in white product for "girls shaped like Cinnabunz, the full-figured, voluptuous girl."

Various blacks say how difficult it is for them to get booked on a VCA movie. And when they do, they get a rate cut.

A VCA favorite, Sean Michaels aims to be color blind. "I would be a sellout to myself if I just put out something that was all-Asian or all-black or any nationality other than white. I didn't feel like there should be a separation there - that's what's wrong with the world."

Midori told www.avn.com: "I'm bothered by the fact that stereotypical images of black people are still being perpetuated within the industry. It really bothers me. Why is there such a difference between the black magazines and the white magazines? Why are the production values so low? You can lay a black magazine and a white magazine down next to each other and you can see the difference. Only a handful of companies actually care about how the women look. A lot of them just put them on the boxes any old kind of way and it's bulls---."

Luke suspects the primary reason for the discrepancy that Midori points out is economic. Generally speaking, consumers are willing to spend more money to see blonde caucasian girls naked than other types. Luke opposes all anti-discrimination laws. If Sean Michaels or Mr. Marcus or Jake Steed only want to hire blacks in their companies, that is fine with Luke. If Vivid only wanted to hire left-handed Lithuanian lesbians, that is fine with Luke. If a magazine did not want to hire homosexuals or blacks or Jews or women, that is fine with Luke.

Jessica Darlin's Hubby Threatens Fan

Jessica Darlin's husband Luis Cypher, of Rob Black's Extreme Associates, has made numerous and graphic threats against internet poster "Torris," who posted them to the newsgroup alt.cult-movies.erotica. Covered with bright tattoos, Luis Cypher writes to Torris:

ever since i started observing what the perv society wrote and thought about the girls i've gotten sick.i've seen people support max hardcore.i've seen people thursting for talent dressed like school girls..my favorite part is when people make porn their hobby.can you say recreational fun..i mean they get online and chat about who's better than who or throw insults around forgetting beggers can't be choosers.you made the comment that jessica darlin couldn't hold tiffany minx's tampax.you see perv,the fact that your not on the set and don't see just who cranks out the scene says a lot for talking without knowing s---! for the great tiffany minx's premire "asswoman" you'd think being that it's her biggest role and she'd come out to show that she's still got it.the woman did three minutes of anal.you pervs complain how rob edits but when your s--- talent supposed superstars do three minutes you better have some editing/looping/special effects planned.tiffany left elegant knowing jessica was going to take over for her and it helped tiffany out the door. when jessica joined extreme tiffany felt the heat again.she was always very jealous of the harder working drug free jessica. jessica on the other hand just finished asswoman and in every scene gave rob over 45 minutes of anal..you pervs always complain"i don't want any special effects ruining my jack off time".. both jessica,rob,and myself were at c.e.s..you have so much s--- to say about rob and jess that i hope you went up and told them how you feel since your so inclined to do it online.well don't worry if you didn't. i'm hoping we can meet this year.my directing name was luis cypher..you won't be able to miss me.i'll be looking for you.i'm sure we'll do much better in person.

i promise you my ass can cash any check my mouth writes.now you know wrestling is something we all enjoy but it goes a lot deeper than that.not only was rob golden gloves i was both a jr.welterweight fighter and a middleweight fighter.we also are deeply involved in the ultimate fighting challenge.if you've ever seen the middle weight champion tito ortiz you'd see another coworker and good friend.now just remember when we meet just how far you went with your mouth and i can only speak for myself when i say i never quit! payback is a life long quest for me.so if you go to c.e.s this year we can do it right then and there.trust me when i say tiffany and most girls alike in the business don't give a flying f--- about their fans.Jessica treats people with respect.you've gone out of your way to throw insults so i hope your a real good looking guy.everyone has to face their accuser sometime.just imagine what you sit home and jerk off to is just a regular day for me.just keep renting her tapes and praising her and she'll keep laughing her way to the bank.i promise you extreme will go on just fine without your social deviant dollar.rob is a great person and a hell of a business man but big mouth pervs like you mean nothing to him.tiffany can't even find work right now so there goes your hero! you called me a suitcase pimp when i make more than Jessica does? this computer doesn't do me an ounce of justice.people say i talk with my hands...you'll just have to see.

oliver44@my-dejanews.com wrote: > Hey Torris. Somebody should tell this guy that > "God created man,but Smith and Wesson made us > equal". Does he also have a bunch of Markmanship > trophies next to his guncase?

Torris: This all got started b/c I said that Jessica Darling is no replacement for Tiffany Mynx. Now I understand completely why there's such turnover at Extreme. It's a cult of personality around Rob Black and all of his sycophants have delusions of greatness.

Oliver: I wonder how the industry shills would defend this > guy? Did Rodger Ebert ever get a death threat for > giving a hollywood movie a thumbs dowm or > critisizing an actress? No s---. It's a goddam disgrace. It reminds of the recent event when a Blaze magazine editor got beat up by some rap stars for writing negative reviews. > > I bought _ONE_ movie made by Black. It was called > "SHOOTING GALLERY". A real piece of s---. My wife > watched it with me. She said "God what ugly men". > I guess now my wife will get death threats?

Torris: Yeah, Extreme are all a bunch of trust fund amateurs who for all their tough guy bravado have onion thin skin. Five years from now Tiffany Mynx will be accepting her Hall of Fame statuette from XRCO. Jessica Darlin will be giving two for one blow jobs in Vegas back alleys if she's lucky. f--- Extreme and Rob Black and all his thugs.

> The movie would have great appeal to people who > like spitting,choking,a girl turned head first in > a toilet bowl,people having sex next to garbage > dumpsters. A fine movie for people who spend time > in state prisons!! I guess you missed the movie where they rape a girl in a wheel chair. Yeah, that's quality adult stroke material. > The new marketing slogan at EXTREME: If ya don't > give us a good > movie review,we will send somebody to kill you!

Torris: Yeah, that's probably why AVN loves his work so much :-). They're afraid to say anything critical otherwise. I think these guys have watched Goodfellas one too many times

> > Yup,really makes me want to buy one of their > movies. And makes perfect sense why Extreme is such a revolving door.

Vivid girl Lori Michaels writes:

I'll be in Austin at Sugars until the end of this week and then home for the summer. I'm going to put all my effort into the web site for the summer. I'm hoping to make it a fun time for all of us. I figured since I don't have a boyfriend that I'd just spend the summer with you. hehe (unless your married)

My movie (Statues) is out on video and should be playing on the Playboy channel this month. I have copies for sale, but haven't had a chance to scan the box and put it in my fantasy town store. If you want a copy just email me the information I need.

I also finished two more feature movies for Vivid in the last months. One will be called "Conflict" and the Playboy version is done. The video should be available in a month or so. You'll especially love my out of control car chase scene on the 101 freeway. You have to remember I'm from the midwest, so this was a challenge for me. The other movie will be quite unique. I told Vivid that the fans are tired of the same old thing (ten minutes of this and ten minutes of that), so they let me do it the way I wanted. I will have around seven scenes in this movie (not titled to date) and all of them are shot naturally from start to finish. My favorite scene in this one is the 9 1/2 weeks type kitchen scene. The only difference is that starts where the other left off. hehe

The director on this movie is the same director that did Statues. He is by far the best that I've seen in the adult industry. He listens to my ideas, listens to what I tell him the fans want, and does a fantastic job with what he has to work with. We both gave a lot of our free time so that this movie would be something that you will like.

THIS IS A LIST OF THE VIP MEMBERS WHO JOINED MY SITE, DOWNLOADED PICTURES FOR A MONTH, AND THEN DECIDED NOT TO PAY: (TOLD THE CREDIT CARD COMPANY THEY DIDN'T ORDER THE SERVICE)
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>Richard Lloyd
>295 Pembroke Place
>Lake Forest, Il. 60045
>lloyd@aol.com
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>Paul Jones
>3800 Woodst
>Germany DE
>eva@look.com.pl
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>Gabriela Ramos
>Del comercia 1052
>Buenos Aires, Ar. 1428
>gstrauss@usa.net
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>Ronald Hall
>3706 Coakley Ave.
>Albany, Ga. 31707
>rkhal@ix.netcom.com
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>(I CALLED THE ONE BELOW SINCE HE USED SO MUCH BANDWIDTH, AND HE TOLD ME TO
>"f--- OFF YOU AMERICAN BITCH" ) FAR EASTERN TYPE ACCENT
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>Sargon Davoodi
>5900 Rodeo Dr.
>Mississauga, On L4M3X2
>md@hotmail.com
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I really can't afford to process credit cards and then have people like this charge them back. I'm still not breaking even on this thing, so this is my only recourse. If any of you are upset that I did this to you, don't worry, it's only going out to 8,173 of my fans.

I've had to make the fantasy videos available to vip members only because of demand. I hope you understand, but I just can't keep up with the orders.

I'm going to be making a contest for the vip fans to make a web cam video with me. Nothing illegal, just have them rubbing lotion all over me for the web cam. I thought the fans might enjoy that on both ends. hehe Information on it is in the vip newsletter.

I'm going to making lots of web cam videos for you this summer, and also do some photo shoots that will be for my web site only. I need input from you on what you would like to see in them. Just make sure you don't get me arrested, ok. hehe

Oh, and one more thing before I go. I'll be putting a bio on my fan club page and a list of magazines with dates, etc. I still have quite a few magazines, so if any of you want some copies just let me know. (Yes, you have to pay for them).