Fox TV producer writes Luke: "Peek behind the scenes of the porn industry on this week's FOX Files. Join us for a visit on a porn movie set, and also hear the stories of Linda Lovelace, John Holmes and Savannah. Learn about AIM, a clinic that does counseling and AIDS testing for porn stars. Fox Files, Thursday Night at 9 on FOX. Check your local listing.
"You can obviously add something about your book - like the following: Luke F-rd is author of the book, "A History of X," and he tells all about the lifetime consequences and the price that these "actors" and "actresses" pay. "There's a loss of dignity," he says, "in performing sex on camera. It diminishes the soul, it flattens the soul."
Hustler magazine came
to Luke's hovel Tuesday afternoon to listen to the blowhard ramble about
academia's infatuation with porn. Lenscap writes on RAME: "Now the
eggheads are going to evaluate, dissiminate, and prostulate about the
whys, hows, and for what reasons porn is popular
and watched by millions of people...mostly men...the reasons are simple.
If prostitution is the worlds oldest profession...then commercially
produced porn has got to be the second....based on the fact that 99.5%
(clergy omitted) of men are voyeurs the following can apply:
Ages 13-30....male testosterone...we
would stick our dicks into a meat
grinder if it felt good....
Ages 30-45....why can't OUR girlfriends/wives do the stuff we see these
porn queens do on film....
Ages 45-death....watching this stuff sure brings back some good
memories.... and I always lusted after my daughters' girlfriends....all
those 17 year olds running around during a 'sleep over' sure was hard
for
me to handle....
When it comes to porn
intellectualism...if the eggheads think with their
dick...instead of their head...the answers are simple.
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Mark
Kernes writes on www.avn.com: "PHILADELPHIA
- William Truett, the director known as Big Daddy Redd, has been arrested
again at his West Philadelphia apartment, charged once again with using
underage girls in his Big Daddy Redd's Hot Steamy Sex series. This was
Truett's
second arrest for, among other charges, child pornography. He was first
arrested on February 10, coincident with raids on several Philadelphia
area video stores where tapes in his series were seized."
Pat M. writes on RAME: "I know almost everyone knows about Big Daddy's use of underage girls in his videos but yesterday I was watching the news and they did a 3-4 minute segment on him. They showed him being arrested yesterday and mentioned that they confiscated all his movies and 49 vcr's. I guess he was dubbing them himself?
"They said that one of the girls he was using was 14 years old and was a Northeast Philly runaway. They then went on to mention that they discovered another 14 year runaway from Connecticut. It mentioned something about him using his web site to recruit talent and distribute the tapes."
Scott Kinney of Diversified Video Associates: "Pat, I saw the news segments. They still aren't saying that he 'knew' they were underage. One followup piece quoted reviews in AVN that his videos were plummeting in quality and suggesting that he was somehow 'desperate to boost falling sales'. I recognized the store-front shot they used to represent an adult video store, I can't imagine the owner was very happy to be associated with the story.
"The story was also a potent reminder (particularly since I focus on European videos) that no matter how much people come to me requesting Teeny Exzesse, Chick Extreme or Seventeen titles, that the dangers in that area are very, very real."
Luke received this Email directed at AVN: "Gene Ross, you say you dislike breast implants and are against coercion. Fine and I appreciate your response. However, how about exposing the coercion that has gone on in leading many a starlet down the path to some tit-hacks house of horrors? Would you write about that?...or is that just "water under the bridge"?. They've already done it, so what's the point. What if (just as an example...wink, wink) Jim South, Russ Hampshire, or John Bowen were involved in cosmetic coercion?
"I ask the same question
of Paul Fishbein. This is great the AVN is
going to be more attuned to natural breasts...but, where is any "expose"
on what's gone in the past?...and why not?"
Guest Columnist Rodger Jacobs Writes:
Mark Kulkis of Larry Flynt Video reports that the controversial JAIL BABES series of videos are "doing extremely well". Volume 3 hit the stores yesterday and the fifth installment of the series, due for an early May release, features a non-sex appearance by Arthur Killer Kane, one of the founding members of the New York Dolls.
Speaking of dolls, Traci
Lords fans are in for a treat if they pick up the June issue of SWANK'S
VIDEO WORLD. Nine delicious photos of a topless Traci, all of them culled
from the former nymphet's R-rated movie appearances, accompany the text
in the new PORN HOLES IN STRAIGHT ROLES series. "Ever wonder what happens
to Porn Holes after they quit the skin biz?" muses SWANK writer Rusty
Steele. "Some retire with a big pile of loot. Others blow their brains
out with drugs or guns. Still others find semi-lucrative careers in
the world of s---ty B movies. In
this shocking new feature, we profile the lucky few starlets who no
longer have to f--- on film. They just have to simulate f---ing on film."
Future installments of the PORN HOLES IN STRAIGHT ROLES series include
glimpses at the miserable mainstream efforts of Ginger Lynn Allen, Chasey
Lain, and Heather Hunter.
If you know who Oscar Micheaux was and what importance he plays in the history of American cinema then you qualify as a bigger film geek than Steven Spielberg. Micheaux, who passed away many years ago, was the first black director in Hollywood, his greatest triumph coming in 1924 when he directed Paul Robeson in BODY AND SOUL. In an odd twist of fate Micheaux's cousin, a B-grade porn star who goes by the name Solveig, has now become the first woman of color in the history of adult cinema to own, produce, and direct her own line of videos. Solveig's SES Productions will release through Exquisite Productions a series of gonzo videos entitled SOLVEIG'S WAY. What would Cousin Oscar think of that?
My deadline on the Luke F-rd story for Swank's Video World has been extended to early June for December 1999 publication. Anyone wishing to share their analysis of Ford and his reporting talents (or lack thereof) are free to e-mail me at: rdjacobs@concentric.net
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Robert Sterling writes Brittany O'Connell
Dear Brittany,
Thanks for getting back to me on being The Konformist Konspiracy Girl, and your kindness has once again been proven to match your loveliness. I apologize if I seemed a little tongue-tied, but talking to you is about as bad as I get. I'll put up your page of stuff as soon as you get the pics to me.
You're the first Kongirl whose name is known internationally, and I am honored by this fact. I'm sure others will follow your thoughtful lead, and any leads on this are always appreciated. Hopefully, it will help out your site even more than it helps mine. Rest assured, my policy is always to show ridiculous gratitude to kindness, and you have continuously given me much to be grateful for. Others will confirm I go out of my way to promote their stuff, and that's even when I'm not trying to sweet-talk them into bed. ;)
Thank you as well for getting me back in touch with Rachel last year, who has proven herself to be as addictively atractive and fun to write to as I recalled her being. I still remember fondly her description of your debauchery together. For selfish reasons, I hope she returns to posing again soon, though I'm happy enough that I'm staying in contact with her. Rachel also got me in touch with Savannah, the February Kongirl, which means you had something to do with both the previous babes on my site.
About your favorite konspiracy: one possibility is the mythology of the succubus that you enjoy, which, though not exactly a konspiracy, involves X-Files-esque paranormal events. As I told you, that's one of my favorite mythos as well: a guy getting his soul sucked out while he's making wild love with a beautiful woman is a nice fantasy, and would be a great way to go. Vampirism is another good choice for you, since I believe you've shown an interest in that.
Well, enough said. I'll leave all further phone contact to you, but if you ever have any questions or business you think I can help you with, don't hesitate to ask. Come to think of it, you don't need any reason to call me, I'll be delighted no matter the motivation.
Take care,
Robert Sterling
Editor, The Konformist
http://www.konformist.com
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Tuesday morning Serenity tapes a skit for Comedy Central's new show called "The Man Show" starring Adam Carolla of Loveline fame.
Ex porner Steven St. Croix writes: "I'm seeking a manager right now to sign on to do action movies. Most likely they will be straight to video movies but I hope to parlay that in to bigger studio films. I'm also training with the Groundlings Improvisation Group. Hopefully I'll be working in their shows towards the fall. Me and Dyanna [Lauren] are still together (3 years) and she currently provides foster care for abandoned dogs thru an organization called New Leash On Life, which finds homes for dogs brought thru the city kennel Department. If you could put up a link to www.NLOL.org and her personal web site www.dyannalauren.com we would be greatly appreciative. She is also planning to start a film company with the Spearmint Rhino Corp. - owners of the gentlemens club."
As for Dyanna's forthcoming CD, Steven writes: "She is currently still recording new songs at this time and new songs are being written also as she and the band want to make this album as professional and musically sound as possible.There will be no songs on the album that have been performed at the AVN Awards.Most songs will be new material and possibly one or to cover songs will be recorded.The band has management, has formed their own label, and will have distribution through a major record label who's name cannot be released at this time."
Gloria Leonard: "Save your money and time, Luke. You will not be allowed to accompany us during our lobbying activities [in Sacramento]. At best, you can attend the morning press conference but that's it. Participation is by invitation only! Sorry. And Private continues to thrive in the marketplace. So many imitators trying to hop on the Eurobandwagon, which we pioneered, still do not present a threat. Quality wins out every time!"
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Amber Hunter aka Lil Cinderella appears in Sunday's New York Times magazine, in the section "What Were They Thinking?" The photo was taken at the Mid Valley Studios in North Hollywood, CA. Amber says: "My fiance [Steve Hatcher] was nearby doing an adult movie. I was anxious just because being on a set is really boring. It's a lot of sitting around and having to be quiet. So I was happy to be outside and smoke a cigarette without having anyone tell me what to do. After you've seen so many naked people walking around, it doesn't faze you anymore. The adult industry becomes robotic. You do it so much. You're like a program. I was only in it for three years. My fiance Steve [Hatcher] has been in the adult industry a lot longer. With him, I mean for guys, it's different. It's a lot easier for a girl to get hurt or tired. But I wasn't really thinking about Steve. I was hungry and tired and just wanted to get home to my computer."
Pioneering porner Milton Luros who sold out on government orders in 1974 (Parliament News went to Paul Wisner), is now 87 years old and in poor health. Contrary to rumor, Wisner is not broke. He celebrated his 75th birthday last Thursday with a quiet party. No porn girls.
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Los Angeles, CA, March 23, 1999 – PIXIS INTERACTIVE , a software company, announced today the worldwide release of their new video: Diva X - The Movie which stars Rebecca Lord (and four of her most beautiful friends).
Diva X - The Movie will kick-off with an exclusive world premiere event at Larry Flynt’s Hustler Hollywood - 8920 Sunset Blvd, West Hollywood, CA Thursday, March 25, 1999, from 7:00 pm to 10:00 pm. Rebecca Lord, a former Hustler centerfold, will make a special live appearance at the event.
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Highlights from Monday's Porn Chat:
Topic is 'The New York Times did not correctly spell Mark Kernes' last name. [Times spelled it Kerns].'
<Malor> luke, gene ross has been calling pornsters today for any gossip they can supply
<Malor> sounds like he is jealous of your gossip gathering skills
<Diablo^> i dont like gene ross, if i ever had gossip i wanted to tell luke would get it
<Malor> probably all the traffic that goes to geneross.com comes from luke's site
<PudgyM> Roger Pipe has really been on edge for the last two months, it seems to me.
<Luke> hey, i'm talking to russ hampshire, anything i should relay to him?
<PudgyM> Tell him to yell long & loud at the NYT for misspelling Mark Kernes' name.
<Malor> luke, ask russ why in the world he wants to shoot a movie in south africa, as you reported
<Luke> he says i don't know
<Malor> haha
<BobBlec> adult movies in South Africa = a-porn-heid?
<Malor> i guess vca wants a private look
<Malor> by the way, private sales and rentals in many stores have tanked
<Luke> why?
<Luke> hey matt, are you scared about losing in small claims court to JB?
<Malor> first, americans cant understand swedish
<Malor> luke, jb's claim is chump change, only $2ooo
XXX
<Luke> but i will not write it cause i am gentleman
<Malor> why not, news is news
<Luke> i try to stay out of people's bedrooms
<BobBlec> Luke: what does being a gentleman have to do with it? :)
<PudgyM> I'll ask later on if anyone else received these solicitations.
<Luke> when's that kramski docu coming out matt?
<Malor> he is still looking for a main stream distributor
<Malor> if not, we will approach hbo or another such large cable channel
<Luke> hey matt, if you read my site it says that u r heading for Jamaica, is this true?
<Malor> i would like to but no, where did you hear this
<JustMrT> what's the point of Jamaica?
<Luke> i sorta made it up
<Malor> oh, okay
<BobBlec> Luke: heheh
<Luke> a creative way of explaining SB77
<Luke> Oooh, i wanna take matt to bermuda, kilago, come on pretty mama
<JustMrT> oh, send that off to GeneRoss.com - "Ford admits fabricating items . . ."
<Malor> what is sb77
<BobBlec> JMT: hahahaha
<JustMrT> "Kilago" ???
<BobBlec> Luke: I think that's "Key Largo"
<Luke> Senate Bill 77 - extend workers comp benefits to AIDS victims
<Luke> to within one year of death
<Luke> so i speculated this might send you fleeing to jamaica
<JustMrT> Matt has obviously been losing sleep over that one
<LT> Ah, discussing the CA State Assembly Bill on HIV Workmen's Comp?
<Malor> the insurance industry would never let a bill like that pass
<LT> Maybe some folks in Sacto know more about what's gone on in porn than porn bizzers know :)
<JustMrT> nobody's going to propose legislation to help porn stars
<LT> JMT: No, but they might legislate to stop some porn abuses.
<Luke> Which porn stars would not work with Marc Wallice back in 1997? who suspected marc was hiv_+?
<JustMrT> I know, but I'm going to tell Gene Ross instead
<LT> Luke: I don't know...it's apparently not a short list.
<Luke> Matt, do you believe in God? Does Harry Mohney?
<Mattress> yes, luke
<Mattress> does harry believe in god? or does he own a club in hawaii
<Luke> both
<Mattress> yes, he has pure platinum there in wakiki and his religous beliefs are unknown to me
<PornerT> i was the guest of the feds both in ca and in the far corner of arizona, a place called stafford
<Luke> was it cushy? did you read books, make friends?
<PornerT> i was in dublin before they changed it to all women, met michael milkin there and some others, met a few jews at the weekly chabad meetings
<Luke> Hey Matt, Milken donated $10 mill to my shul SSW and he got their high school named after him, so will we some time see the Matt Taylor School at Temple Emmanuel?
<Luke> Does GVA West offer guided tours to prestigious journalists?
<Mattress> who might that be, luke
<Mattress> no wall of tv moniters like in russ' office, i use split screen on one moniter
<Luke> doesn't that make it harder to check up on people, matt?
<Mattress> i have 16 color cameras but they all show up on one screen
<Luke> is it a big screen and did you know that might become illegal>
<Mattress> never have the time to look at them anyway
<Luke> AB 182 matt, upskirts
<Mattress> no
<Luke> do you have the cameras situated so that you can look up the skirts of employees?
<Mattress> they are security cameras
<Luke> are they in the bathrooms?
<Mattress> no, they are not in the bathrooms
<JustMrT> only the women's bathrooms
<Mattress> they are a theft deterant and for the safety of the employees
<Luke> Can they see through clothing?
<Mattress> luke, you must be out of your mind
<JustMrT> Luke, what are you coming up here for? Chasing a story?
<Luke> i was thinking of following the fsc to sacramento
<LT> Luke: Do it!...it could be *very* interesting this time ;)
<Mattress> that would make a good story, luke
<Mattress> you might get layed in the process
<JustMrT> Luke, do you ever wish that you had decided to cover the shrink-wrap industry instead of the porn industry?
<Luke> Hey Jim, do you ever dress up in skirts and wigs?
<JimGunn> <sarcasm mode on> Yeah, Luke, all the time. <sarcasm mode off>
<Luke> jim, why do you prefer to shoot lesbian movies?
<JustMrT> no wood problems, luke
<LT> To quote Sarah Jane Hamilton: "They're not as icky" :)
<JimGunn> 1- I like watching it.
<JimGunn> 2- They are easier to shoot as a prodcuer/director/camerman or some combo of the above.
<JimGunn> 3- I have many, many hot new strippers in my more or less exclusive talent pool but few worthy guys.
<PudgyM> They're easier to convert to a softcore version for cable & hotel play, JimG?
<JimGunn> 4- I have developed quite a reputation as a directr of g/g (Adam Film World's Best All-Girl movie(s) award in 1995, and the success of "Strap-On Sally".
<JimGunn> Also a LOT of people ask me to do g/g based on that rep- I have no less than six g/g movies planned for just the next 2 months.
<PatRedmon> Jenna has some new jewelery
<PatRedmon> In a place where it normally doesn't go...
<LT> Pat: A scar under her chin? :)
<PatRedmon> hee hee
<JustMrT> sphincter ring?
<LT> Talk about quackery, Jasmin St. Claire and Jenna have chin implants...and scars *under* their chin...
<PatRedmon> Jenna ?! Sphincter ?! HAA HAA
<LT> ...decent docs make the incision inside the mouth.
<LT> Man, Jenna gets new boobs, chin implant, labe ring...
* LT has never been able to find labia minora in the sky...is it next to the Big Dipper? :)
<PudgyM> LT, it's only available in the southern hemisphere. ;=)#
<JustMrT> Kid Sparkle really exists, as opposed to being some kind of in-joke on l-keford.com? what about Kid Vegas?
<RogTPipe> You are a man of faith Jim, you just dont know it
<JimGunn> That's what you think. ;-)
<RogTPipe> you just have faith in the wrong things
<lsb> Anyone see rame post from Lysa on Bonita Saint, is it true Bonita does hardcore b/g ?
<JimGunn> Was it Bertrand Russell who said, correctly I think- "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"
<RogTPipe> You believe in sceince. That in itself is a reach
<JimGunn> It's not something to "believe in". Just the sae simple logic that allows one to get up in the morning, go to work, booot up a PC, particptae in a chat.
<Alain-> lsb: just saw your comment on Victoria secret while scrolling back, have you seen the latest commerical one of the super-model has panties so tight that her labia are molded clearly, I taught that this was a NO-NO on american tv
<JimGunn> etc.
<RogTPipe> Jim, how many times in the last 10 years have things that sceince said were impossible, become possible
<RogTPipe> It changes daily
<JimGunn> Many things previosuly thought impossible have later been done. No question.
<RogTPipe> It always amuses me how people in this busines are so set on mocking my faith
<RogTPipe> Its not like I push it, but it's like I've broken the unwritten rule
<Luke> what are you talking about rog?
<Luke> your christianity?
<RogTPipe> that I acutally believe in God, and Christianity
<JustMrT> "off to shul," eh?
<Luke> jmt, you got me,
<Luke> i stayed home and learned how to program my vca
<Luke> my vcr
<RogTPipe> No more blinking 12:00 for luke
<PudgyM> Freudian typo there, Luke. ;=D#
<Mastrick> Lukee I wanna see you program VCA
<JimGunn> And I am willng to convert completely to your cause or side of the argment. BUT you are not willing to admit you COULD be wrong. It's a classical error of arrogance that makes one think he's right in spite of the evidence, the contradictions in logic and the historical record.
<JustMrT> the strong hand of Jesus enabled Rog to beat me on that one
<RogTPipe> Jim, you just made a statement that was totally false
<Luke> What brought up Rog's discussion of faith?
<Luke> Did someone mock him for it recently? Where?
<JustMrT> nothing, as far as I remember, Luke
<RogTPipe> Jim and I have had this mocking thing going lately
<RogTPipe> First it was gentle jabs at my parents, now this.....
<RogTPipe> "arrogance"
<Luke> Hey Rog, who in this business is mocking your faith?
<JimGunn> You start out with the idea that you are right, in spite of how ludicrous the idea is and insist that others must prove YOU wrong for your extraordinary claims. Wel it doesn't work that way. YOU have the burden to prove yourself right, not the opposite
<RogTPipe> I am not trying to prove you wrong Jim, never had
<RogTPipe> and I never called you "arrogant" or said that your belief was pounded into you by your parents
<Luke> Hey Jim, Jesus loves you.
<JustMrT> how do you guys expect me to be able to get wood looking a pictures of underaged girls in a Chilean usenet group if you're having heavy discussions like this?
<Luke> And so does Kid Vegas
<RogTPipe> I have been overly calm because I don't believe you mean to be unsulting
<JimGunn> Well, you got me started again...
<JimGunn> You had to ask.
<JimGunn> It's not an insult. Just a discussion.
<RogTPipe> You don't need to insult me. If you think I'm wrong fine. If you think I'm a kook fine.
<Luke> Rog, WHO in porno is insulting your faith aside from that nasty Mr Gunn who shoots lesbians anyway.
<RogTPipe> But don't call me arrogant because I don't believe what you do
<Luke> Hey JMT, do you believe in God?
<JustMrT> Luke, is Kid Vegas real, or a figment of your imagination?
<RogTPipe> Luke, there has been a long undercurrent, from as far back as Shelly's jab at "My faith"
<Luke> He is a real person but some of his persona is probably fake.
<JustMrT> No, Luke, I believe in Bruce Seven
<Luke> Rog, who is Shelly and when did he jab at your faith?
<lsb> So many lesbians at last nigfhts Oscars
<Luke> LSB, do you believe in God?
<lsb> I mean thesbians
<JustMrT> oh yeah? I musta blinked or something
<RogTPipe> Sheldon. He began his lectures with assumptions about my faith and my 'privledged upbringing'
* PudgyM chuckles.
<Luke> Sheldon Ranz is a Jewish atheist.
<lsb> Yes, I do believe in the almighty GOD
<RogTPipe> And an arrogant prick
<PudgyM> Luke, I am very spiritual. But not religious. I seem to gravitate to the Buddhist philosophy of "right life".
<JimGunn> I find the duality in the consciousness of people amazing. Perfectly rational and logical in most areas of life. Completely irrational, and suspending all critical thinking faculties in areas of "spirituality" . In other words they ose all the good sense the use on a daily basis in their lives over this one issue.
<Alain-> Luke: to be truthfull no I don't belive in God or Allah or anything else either
<RogTPipe> Jim, for the record, I am prefectly willing to belive that I MIGHT be wrong.
<RogTPipe> See, there you go again
<lsb> Luke....stocking up on those Passover goods?
<JimGunn> Oh, that's different Rog I'll gibe you credit then.
<Luke> not yet, lsb
<PudgyM> I have been informed what my mission in life is. I must follow through.
<Luke> What is that pudgy, soccer?
<JimGunn> Most theists will not admit the possibility that they might be wrong.
<RogTPipe> And most atheists are the same way
<RogTPipe> No one KNOWS there is a God
<PudgyM> Yes, Luke. Specifically, indoor soccer in Chicago.
<Luke> Jim, I'm a theist and I might've been wrong to have published allegations about you sucking Kid Vegas.
<JimGunn> Well the evidence points that way and there's no reason to think otherwise.
<JustMrT> Jim, how do you explain how pervasive theist thought is?
<JimGunn> Thanmks Luke- I still say that you made him up, though.
<RogTPipe> Oh, now wouldn't you call that 'arrogant'
<JimGunn> No just realistic.
<RogTPipe> Who is Kid Vegas and why should anyone care?
<RogTPipe> In your reality yes. You just did what you accused me of/
<JimGunn> I mean what about Odin, or RA. Are they real or is thata silly idea. Is Yahweh more credible with his causcasiian features and long white beard than Appolo or Zeus.
<JimGunn> It's almost silly...
<RogTPipe> Life could have come from mud. But by the same math, an army of monkeys on an endless bank of PCs could, by chance, dupicate the works of Shakespear
<Luke> Ok Rog, so you believe in God. Well, what are you doing about it?
<RogTPipe> Luke, what I am I supposed to do about it?
<RogTPipe> I don't believe in preaching the word
<JustMrT> you know what I like about Jews? They don't come around to your house uninvited, trying to convince you to become a Jew
<lsb> #theologicalchat
<RogTPipe> Jim, actually, it WOULD happen, given enough time.
<Luke> No Rog, not preaching the word. It's just that I find that a whiff of God's presence begins to change my life in ways that are frightening and uncomfortable, and I run away.
<RogTPipe> That is how people justify the origin of life from mud
<PudgyM> Define "enough".
<Luke> JMT, until me. :)
<Luke> How many Jews here?
<lsb> JustMrT........Jews for Jesus do
<JimGunn> Could happen given enough time. But too small a chance for the human mind to even comprehend
<RogTPipe> Luke, believe it or not, I lead my life in the way I think God would want. Porn aside, I don't think it matters
<RogTPipe> Just like life coming from nothing.
<lsb> I'm a jew boy
<Luke> Ok Rog, that's great. I'm not sure I do.
<RogTPipe> LSB is Jewish Mafia
<PudgyM> I will go to heaven, Luke.
<JimGunn> How convenient Rog. make up your own theology as you go along and expect that to be credible?
<RogTPipe> Luke, I do unto others.
<RogTPipe> Jim, have I offended you in some way, or are just trying to be friendly?
<Luke> How are you so sure Pudgy?
<PudgyM> Regardless of how many times I ejaculate in no one's presence.
<JimGunn> I'm an asshole I know. But it means nothing personal to me. If you can't take it lets move on to another topic.
<JustMrT> man, if LT was just here to work fake tits into this, it would be complete
<Luke> lol
<RogTPipe> I can take it fine, but you keep getting very personal
<PudgyM> I have an optimistic view of life & the afterlife, Luke, that's how.
<Luke> How many people here are basically happy?
<lsb> Speaking of the jewish mafia, do you know that a picture of Mayer Lansky hangs in the hanhout for the Genevese crime family
* PudgyM raises his hand.
<lsb> hangout
<JimGunn> Well it's just to preposterous for me to fathom the intracite contradictions, the relativistic nonsense, the lack of any critical judegement or willingness to look at the facts- sorry.
<RogTPipe> I am exceptionally happy Luke
<RogTPipe> What intracite contrdictions?
<RogTPipe> What nonsense?
<RogTPipe> Someone disagrees with you and its nonsense? How closed minded and shallow of you.
<PudgyM> I'd like to be running an indoor soccer team right now, Luke. That's not happening. But I still see myself making progress toward it every day.
<lsb> Rog, how many mafia families exist in L. A.?
<Luke> 5?
<lsb> In NY, there's 5
<JimGunn> Historical evidence of the creatuion of the Jewish & Christian religions in their socio-cultural context, the chance accidents of history that make them last to this late date, the mutually exclusive theology that the rest of the world doesn't share. Must I go on?
<RogTPipe> We have tons of street gangs though
<RogTPipe> I just dont need to get personal and insulting. Imagine if I did that in my reviews. You would have something to say about that. Bad form in the least.
<JustMrT> things have declined to the point that a religious debate is raging here, space
<JimGunn> It's not personal. Only to you because you have a emotional stake into it and I am upsetting you. You can telle me I'm an idiot for not believing and it won't bother me.
<RogTPipe> JMT is upset that we aren't in that political bashing mode still
<spacemanj> JMT- so nothing new, eh? :-)
<lsb> How about Porn for Jesus
<RogTPipe> No, only because you use words like arrogance, ignorance and nonsense
<spacemanj> what are we crusading for/against tonight?
<JimGunn> If you cannot recognize nonsense for what it is I'm sorry.
<RogTPipe> You seem to feel the need to 'prove' something.
<JimGunn> There's a intrinsic truth here. One of us is dead wrong.
<Alain-> Spacemanj the eternal question does Gog exist ? if he exist than why he created Mila
<JustMrT> any good new releases, space?
<JimGunn> And theevidence is on my side.
<RogTPipe> If you say so. I am just a poor stupid fool
<Mastrick> JMT Check out Penetrating the East #2
<Mastrick> Best I've seen this week
<spacemanj> Katja Kean's Sports thing was OK
<lsb> What do you call a catholic that does porn, leaves the business and makes a comeback?
<Mastrick> ?
<RogTPipe> Christy Canyon?
<JimGunn> No you are an intelliget young man- BUT you have the duality of logic that many do. You willingly suspend your disbelief on thos one issue.
<RogTPipe> :-)
<JustMrT> <makes a note>
<lsb> A Porn again Christian
<RogTPipe> Well thank you for the lesson Jim
<spacemanj> Do NOT, I repeat DO NOT get Tina Tyler's Lesbian Lick-a-thon if spitting ain't your thang.
* Mastrick thought that there was a punch line coming
<JustMrT> cognitive dissonance, Jim
<RogTPipe> Tina's first video was quite good
<JimGunn> What about cog. diss, JMT?
<spacemanj> Tina holds Taylor Moore's mouth open and hawks one right into Taylor's mouth
<RogTPipe> Oh, now that is just foul
<lsb> Tina's doing another BJ vid
<Alain-> cool the english PPV movie classic for April will be Deep Throat this mont it was Insatiable 2
<JustMrT> cool! phlegm!
<spacemanj> I didn't even watch the rest. Just hit eject right there and returned it the next day
<Luke> i'm interviewing vince voyeur
<JustMrT> Jim, I just used that term to indicate that I once took Social Psychology in college
<Luke> what should i ask him?
<JimGunn> Thats what I thought.
<RogTPipe> What he did to piss Bianca Trump off at CES
<Alain-> Tyler started in fisting then went back to bj ... usually its the other way arounnd :-)
<spacemanj> Hey Rog, how far did the ZaSu Knight interview actually go, and how far did you tell Mrs. Rog it went?
<lsb> Luke....Why no Coral Sands info. on your site?
<RogTPipe> Space, Mrs rog knows exactly how far it went and she is fine with it
<spacemanj> That's particualarly evasive :-)
<RogTPipe> Well, you know me
<spacemanj> particularly even
<RogTPipe> ACtually, it is practically evasive :-)
* Mastrick has heard that Coral's first b/g in 'Pink' will not be out until sometime this summer :(
<JimGunn> I better quit before my reviews take a nose dive...
<JustMrT> what do you think she was doing in that interview, Rog? Is she really like that, or was she doing a parody of people like that, or did she think she just had to act like that to get publicity, or what?
<JimGunn> Ha ha.
<RogTPipe> JTM, my first instinct would be to say that it's all an act with all of them, but this one......still has me questioning
<RogTPipe> Jim, I will just hand over my reviews to you on your films, defer to your greater knowlege
<JustMrT> Jim, your next numerical rating from Rog will be the "null" symbol
<Alain-> iM out I need some sleep (got myself into bed at 5 am friday night, woke up at 10 am, went to bed at 4 am saturday night and yesterday night watched jap porn until 1 am ...)
<lsb> I thought Gwyneth Paltrow s better looking, and how fat was Mariah Carey last night?
<RogTPipe> Gwyneth PAltrow is unforgivably ugly and she was medicore at best in her winning performance.
<JimGunn> I see I pissed you off now. Rog, an apppeal to the facts would be beter than allegation-slinging, but would you partake in such an excercise?
<spacemanj> If Paltrow's hair was pulled any tighter, her face would've opened up :-)
* PudgyM is distracted (Porcel is on now.).
<RogTPipe> DAmn Jim, you can dish it out, but I can't joke back, how much fun is that?
<JimGunn> Ok, it was a joke ok.
<RogTPipe> If it weren't a joke, you would know it
<JimGunn> Aha.
<RogTPipe> If LT were here, he would back me up on that
<lsb> Rog ....Damn it Jim, sounds like Star Trek
<JimGunn> Soemtimes its hard to get intonation on a text chat!
<JustMrT> Paltrow has won a half dozen awards, and she did that crying-and-weeping thing every time
<RogTPipe> LSB, you knock it off now......only so many jokes allowed her minute here
<RogTPipe> OK, I smell dinner and I have managed to offend everyone in the room so my evening is complete
<JimGunn> Luke, i'm surprised you kept out of that. Maybe I'm to harsh.
<JustMrT> Luke has probably caught his shirttail in the VCR, and can't get to the keyboard
<Luke> :)
<spacemanj> What was the fun all about, anyway?
<PudgyM> I respectfully submit that Rog has changed in the past few months, whether he admits it or not.
<Luke> Jim, I almost never argue God's existence etc...
<JimGunn> Luke you're better off. All it gets me is angry friends.
<Luke> I still hope you will secure a bj for this theist when I visit you in FL.
<JimGunn> No problem Luke.
Sneece1234@aol.com
writes: "Had a good laugh reading Jim Gunn/Luke /Roger Pipe etc. running
dialogue. My skepticism & lack of belief puts me more on Mr. Gunn's
side but I must note that said position does not keep Mr. Gunn from
pandering to the Judaeo-Christian hatred of women in his videos. Mike
Albo, Max Hardcore were exposed to the extreme anti-sex misogyny of
Catholicism in their upbringing as I imagine Rocco & Robert Black
were. Is there a connection here, folks? DUH! How
many female performers were raised to believe that women were inherently
inferior and evil? Too damn many from what I can see. If not for Judaism
&
Christianity there would be little if any porn in the U.S. because there
would
be little need for it. Each has a vested interest in the other. When
Kimberly Jade said she felt her HIV+ status was divine providence and
Brooke Ashley spoke of a higher power I felt they probably thought of
anal sex
as an act of punishment for their sins. As much as I admire Mimi Miyagi
as a
businessperson and a caring human being I cringe when she seems to ascribe
any good fortune in her life to divine providence. Have you ever noticed
the number of crucifixes worn by performers past and present. Do I mention
the word GUILT? I would bet my savings that most of those performing
the most extreme and debasing acts already had a load of it when they
entered the industry. Have you noticed that most of the top names from
the "Golden Age" felt that they were morally in the right? I wonder
how many of today's top names feel the same? Why do most former stars
have such contempt for the current state of the industry? Do they feel
betrayed? Think about it."
Jim Gunn: "I hardly
think that my videos "pander to the Judaeo-Christian hatred of women".
Unless you count the fact that I'm making porn at all as
evidence enough. There are some of my contemporaries that do that
woman-hating style much better than me."