Friday, September 15th, 2000
Rob Spallone, Sal Sodano interviews (audio file)
Flashman Denies Sleeping With Sheep During Lonely Nights In Montana
I'm debating Lasse Braun Saturday night on the Dr. Susan Block show (DrSusanBlock.com). What should be my main arguments about the evils of pornography and Lasse Braun?
Chaim writes: Tell her that porn is bad because it causes men to pine for what they can not get and ignore what they have.
Jenna Wins!
Joe! writes on MrMarcus.com: Jenna you do win! Your successful; very beautiful and a charming person! I met you a CES and at Alcatraz. You said I was nice! Thanks! You should do what ever makes you comfortable. Remember your true fans support in what ever you do. Patterson and Big these KKK want a bes; are stupid! What are they doing on Black man websight if they don't like interacial. They need to get a life! They are just trying to promote their hate here because no one will come to their websight! We love you Jenna stay strong!
QT writes: Jenna, if this really is you, and you are thinking of going black to please these fools on here, ask Dyanna, Lexus, and Julia Ann among others first. You will be condemned, as all of them were. Don't bother telling me about the other girls who went black and are still going, because thats nonsense. If you think you're too big to be thrown away like the other girls, you've got another thing coming sweetheart. P.S. I'm black, so don't compare me to the KKK.
John writes on MrMarcus.com: Jenna Jameson is like the beautiful upper class girl in my neighbourhood, a girl with class and who knows only to go out with guys whom have same status of her. Pressure is exerting it's ugly face in the Jewish owned media that somehow she has to confirm to the images and trends that are hitting her everyday. For instance, this new trend of hip hop music, videos other black music that is constantly played and decided to be played by Jewish owned radio station and entertaintment industy. They have decided that this is the culture of American society and all so called white music such as alternative and rock music is foolish. Now Jenna sees on TV shows how degraded the society has become when whites are trying to talk black without correct grammer and full sentences. Jenna knows that these whites on TV are not her class of people and that they have been brainwashed by the Jewish owned media that has degraded whites on TV and she does not want to lower herself in that class because she has an independent mind.
Jenna knows her european heritage build America and civilized it to a great nation. If she was living in Europe she would be more progressive there than if she was a black woman in Africa. But she is living in the USA, where the forces in the media are creating an illusionary path that she has to go. She has to put a stop to it or she will fall prey to the culture created by people who's gain is their own and their motives are to corrupt her people's mind.
Jenna go with what you be to be true, not what the outside forces are exerting on you. The outside forces have motives that are out to corrupt your society without you even realizing it.
Jenna Jameson replies: First of all, thanks to everyone who is being cool with me. It means a lot. And when I decie to my first interacial, it's not that I will be conforming to society, it will be that I got tired of waiting...:> Love ya, JJ
QT writes on MrMarcus.com: All I have to say is let Jenna f--- a black guy and see what happens. We'll all see together. You fools were trying to lay that bulls--- on Julia ann about "it won't hurt your career", and look at her. The footage was Mysteriously damaged, and she quit porn. Good call there boys. P.S. It's ovaries, not ovalries. And Jenna doesn't even have one million dollars, let alone be a multi-millionaire. We'll See!!
Jenna replies: Trust me, I am very comfortable with my money situation... I have invested all of my money, unlike a lot of people in this industry. I could retire right now if I wanted to... But I don't, simply because I love what I do. And no matter how many derogatory comments I have to endure because of my choices, I will continue to be the #1 porn star ever. And that's because I'm smart, not because I'm lucky! - JJ
Nine writes: what ever happened to love...and making love to just one person...
John writes on MrMarcus.com: After you been with a black guy, your status will be degraded to just one of those pornstars. Maybe you should go to Africa and help the blacks starving to death there if you ever survive there for more than a month. If you ever decide to be banged with a black guy, think of the victims of crimes commited by blacks on a daily basis in America. Oh yeah, the criminals and trash of society will love you, middle and upper class America won't.
Wookie writes on MrMarcus.com: You'll continue to be the #1 porn star ever?! That's funny cunt! All your movies are a boring joke! You think you have talent, yeah in pretending like you actually enjoy sex! I can't wait until they laugh you out of Hollywood and you're sucking dicks at a Nevada whorehouse! Will you be getting drunk again tonight as usual?
Mr Marcus writes: Why is it, a decision is made or considered and the ignorant feel a threat? that's basically what it comes down too. It's so far beyond if she will, or if she doesnt or if they can or should they. It's about forcing your opinion on to someone else. That's probably the hardest thing to do is to be, different. To stand on your own. Making a decision and staying with it. To be blunt, all the negative responses are from the weak. Cant stand to see it, or maybe your secretly encouraging it. Now I understand what Julia Ann went through. Ya'll start jumping to conclusions that cant be concluded. All this with a speculation. It cant be worth it, none of this. Jenna you have a huge fan base. They love you, they hate you, you almost have to ask what they 'mean' to you. If it's the same. I am more in support in your right to choose then more in what you choose. Every girl who was ever mentioned on this board, was because of the "IR" issue. It's a unique thing. Not meant for everybody. So buy what you like and avoid what you dont. Ya feel me?
ASJ replies: easy for you to say you marcus, will you be there to defend her against her attackers after? she will catch hell, you won't, you have nothing to loose and everything to gain, she has everything to loose and nothing to gain, is sean helping julia ann, hell no, he got his, just like you are trying to get yours, since you beat those gals senseless in rough sex, to me you are scum, jenna rent it and tell us what you think? ask yourself why she has thousands of fans? it is because of what she has done up until now, and more importantly, what she has not done, which is why i support her, no gangbangs, interracial, bukkake, double anal/vag, etc, we love her because she is not one of your little toys, used by you and ir fans who only want to see her degraded, why should she risk all for your ass, so shut up, you wont be there when it done, we want her like she has been until now. she and gals like serenity, jill kelly, stacy valentine, etc, know your game and know what interracial is about, it is in porn eyes a degrading of women, simple as that, which is probably part of the reason you want her and the only reason the board wants her to go black.
Space Cowboy writes on MrMarcus.com: What I fail to understand is the violently misogynist attitudes taken by so many of the guys on this board, in general and in particular toward Jenna. Why is everybody consumed by the issue of Jenna doing an interracial scene? Her sexual preferences are not public domain, regardless of the fact that she is an adult film star. Ultimately, it is Jenna's decision as to who she chooses to have sex with; it's her body, her career, her life.
Who are we to demand this of Jenna? What credentials,experience or understanding do any of the people who have been posting these negative messages have in the adult industry? Especially of somebody the magnitude of Jenna who is undenialbly the biggest name in the history of adult films.It's impossible for the average Joe or Jane to relate to the decisions Jenna has to make and unfair to place such burdens upon her from that perspective.
I agree with Jenna that her fame comes with a double-edges sword, and comments like those that have been made on this board are the downside of her fame. Jenna's visibillity puts her in a position where she can never please people with whatever choice she makes. If she should not decide to do an interracial scene, she should not be branded a racist, rather a woman who did not have a sexual preference for african-american men. If Jenna does do an interracial scene it should not tarnish her past accomplishments. They are independent of one another, apples and oranges.
Jenna is a human being like you and I and deserves to be treated as such. The fact that she is an adult film star is inconsequential; Jenna has feeling and emotionslike you and I. This should be taken into considerationby all of those who criticize Jenna with such vigor and vitrol. Jenna chose to be in the public eye and by making that choice she knew she would be open to criticism. However, the comments made on this board are crude and unwarrented. Enjoy Jenna for her beauty and intelligence-don't resent her for those reasons and make her the object of your personal frustrations and jealousy.
Curious writes: Mr.Marcus who is your true love? do you have one? does she know? or by being in this buissnes do you not give a f---......
Jenna Jameson writes on MrMarcus.com: Well, I have to say, I love talking with my fans and everyone else, no matter what they believe. But, it's getting to the point where I feel uncomfortable. I can handle bashing, but this is getting ridiculous. I AM a person. It hurts when people says such horrible things (vegasguy). It is so sad that such hate still exists. Thank you Marcus for being such a good friend. This will be the last time I post here. I just feel like I can't be a part of this. I tried. I'm sorry-JJ
WillieG replies: You stupid bitch you were never part of the solution
you were always a part of the problem. Bitch you have some nerve talking
about you never conform to what normal society want. That so called
normal society is a white world to you! Here's litle history lesson
for you whites only make up 1/3 of the world's population! Chinese make
up over 1/3 by themself. You know I get so tired of listening to this
dumb s--- from you an Asia Carrerra now she went to school with blacks
and dated blacks in school all of sudden she doesn't do blacks! The
bottom line is that both of you are plastic and played out... Now you
want to get even sort of speak you want to go IR. Pls don't!! Jenna
let it go! We want to see new FRESH BABES!!!!You have been sent out
to the pasture
Jenna writes Luke: Well, it just goes to show that a lot of these people are hypocrits (WillieG.). People like him love calling a lot of the girls in the industry racists... But if you read his post, who sounds like a racist? That would be him... By the way, I enjoy being "pasty faced" LOL
Porno Professionalism
David Aaron Clark writes on RAME: A code of ethics? Drafted by the likes of Jim South and Stevie Hirsch? Oh, Christ. That's like having a Columbian dictator and his drug-running kingpin draft a zero-tolerance statement. And I, for one, would pay good money to see Tal take it up the ass from another guy, whether he layed there like a log, grimacing and clearly thinking to himself, "This one is for peace, love and understanding," or whether he whimpered and cried like a f---ing baby (or a porn starlet, faking it).
Mike John is an extremely competent and well-respected shooter, but I don't think he gets the concept. Khan Tusion is a maverick who could use much better technical skills, but he's got the heart and soul of a pervert. Which is what you need to make a concept like ORAL CONSUMPTION work.
Nice to see Mei-Yu is making an impact on the fans, since most of the industry hasn't caught on to her yet. Great body, very pretty face, wonderous smile, and -- believe it or not -- actually loves getting nasty. As someone who's met them both, I'd say it I'd rather have one Mei-Yu to film than ten Skylar Knights.
ALWAYS been satisfied with Alpha Blue. OF COURSE they can't qc every single f---en tape, and their policy to ask for the supposedly bum tape back is in line with VSOM, not to mention, oh say, Tower Video. In other words, why should they trust you, esp. when you seem to obviously be a first-time customer AND a complainer?
Vivid Quashes 60 Minutes Profile
I heard that Vivid Video has sufficiently discouraged the CBS TV show "60 Minutes" from investigating the adult internet. 60 Minutes was set to attend next week's IA2000 convention in New Orleans and D$'s Players Ball.
But Vivid Video did not want the scrutiny just before its Initial Public Offering. So far, all adult public offerings have been flops. New Frontier is on the ropes. Metro was delisted from Nasdaq last year. Playboy, Penthouse and Private languish.
I hear that Vivid called up the producers of the proposed piece and said they wanted nothing to do with it. It was very important to Vivid that they not have any exposure at this time.
Lots of webmasters are relieved. They were concerned about how they'd be portrayed, particularly at wild parties like The Players Ball. They were also concerned about who'd be portrayed as leaders of this scummy industry. Paul Fishbein? Andy Edmond? Joe Elkind?
Kid Vegas phoned Thursday afternoon.
KV: "I just got off the phone with the District Attorney's office, and the City Attorney and the Probation Department. They've issued a bench warrant for his arrest. I'm not sure what they're charging him with this time. I think he's committed another crime. When he does get arrested and taken to court, I will appear because he hasn't paid any of his restitution money. The $3125.50. He better pay before he goes to jail or they will get him on that too.
"Tony Eveready, don't get pulled over. Hahaha. Words from Kid Vegas. Peace out Luke. I'm going to go do more drugs."
I called Tony Eveready.
Tony: "The only reason they got in touch with him was that they needed him to come to court next week so we can work out a payment plan. Stupid motherf---er. The DA doesn't even like his punk ass. She likes me.
"Kid Vegas is a coward. I showed up on a set he was doing for Hustler at Rob Spallone's. Rob Spallone wants to kick his ass but he was in Vegas when Kid Vegas showed up. Gary, Dynamite's husband, wants to kick his ass but he was in Michigan. I showed up to pick up Mojo, Gay's boyfriend. This fool was there. I said, 'What's up?' I wasn't talking s--- to him or nothing. He got scared and said he was going to call the police and s--- and that he had a restraining order and dadadada.
"If he wants to fight me again, we can do it any time he wants too. He can kiss my ass."
Brian writes about Kid Vegas: This guy sounds like a cry-baby pussy to me...Running around crying to the police. A real man wouldn't do that s---, only a pussy baby. What kind of asshole ends his message with I'm going to go do more drugs?? What s schmuck!!!!
Kid Vegas replies: Who is this retard Brian, on about comments to me. This guy has no idea of who I am. To take sides with an ignorant gang member who supposedly does not owe me anything if you look at his comments a couple of weeks ago on this site, is to show your own ignorance. Go suck a cock buddy! If you want to make comments, use your real name idiot, so I can roast you & your excuse you call life moron. I f--- girls for a living, what do you do dickhead? That is right, he was there to pick a guy up, I was there to do my job, f--- a girl for Hustler asshole....Peace out fan, I have the freedom of speech to say whatever the f--- I want to say, even if it just a image, or if it is true or not, so go work your 9-5 bitch & stuff that mouth with big cock, cuzzzz you are not in the King of Gen-X's shoes, loser!
Wife Beaters Repent
It seems the only thing more prevalent than saline in porn today is spousal abuse. Today's Jack Chick comic deals with domestic violence and all its family repercussions. Can the word of God mend this broken family? You bet your life it can. Read and be healed. Click here: The Secret
Chaim writes: Thank you for opening my eyes, again, to Jack Chick comics. (The potential of this medium is really barely touched by modern propaganda.) I love them I do, but why is it that every other man drops dead of a heart attack by the last few panels of the strip? And, rather than mock the message of each (for filler, no doubt), why not try to provide a morally uplifting jewish message of your own? PS Kudos to Jack Chick for not putting a face on Jesus!
Luke's Wager With Damnation
Chaim writes: Either you are right or Jack Chick is right; you are not both correct. Either Jesus is the Son of God and the Messiah or he is not.
Let's suppose that Luke F-rd is right - Jesus was just a man. If he was not the messiah and I stay a jew, then maybe I go to heaven. If he was not and I live a good clean Christian life, then I still qualify for heaven, under whatever logic lets the christians in.
But suppose Chick is right - then you, I , and all the other jews in the world must go to hell, where we will BURN for ALL TIME! That is a hell of a lot of pain to be in! But if he is right and I become Christian, then I get to go to heaven no matter how s---ty a life I have lived. So it appears that either way, the safest, surest bet is to live a decent life, accepting Jesus as the Messiah and the Son of God.
These cartoons, simple as they are, have clarified the issue for me in my mind. Thank you Luke. Thank you!
Lord Peter Luther Christian writes: What Does The Bible Say About How Any Person Can Accept The Gift Of Forgiveness For Their Sins So That They Can Go To Heaven?
Repent of my sin: accept what God thinks of my sin.
"For all(each person) have sinned(done wrong), and come short of the glory of God." Romans 3:23
"... Repent and believe the good news!" Mark 1:15 Believe with all my heart that Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God, was buried and came back to life to pay for my sins.
"That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." Romans 10:9
"... Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved." Romans 10:13
Pray this simple prayer: Dear Lord Jesus, I believe that I am a sinner, and I ask for your forgiveness. I believe that You suffered the punishment for my sin by your death on the cross, and that You arose from the grave. I now receive You into my heart as my Savior. Thank You for saving me and forgiving me through Your merciful grace. Amen. If you said that prayer and meant it, God heard you and forgave you. You are now a born again Christian saved from Hell and your eternal destiny in Heaven is secure. Welcome to the family of God. The death of Jesus on the cross was the payment for our sins, the resurrection of Jesus from the grave is our receipt.
Who Is Lord Peter Luther Christian?
Chaim writes: I see Lord Peter has weighed in. I could not have put it all better. Honestly, I know that I have pretended to be various people on your site, but we both know that I am not him. For one thing, I do not know s--- about the new testament or what their prayers look like. YOU, on the other hand, know all that crap, having grown up the son of a minister. So fess up Luke, before you meet your sabbath bride and await the latest from Dr. Pierce - are you Lord Peter Luther Christian?
Luke: No, you are.
Luke Gets Mail
Sexaddict writes: About Lynne's issues with shaving (or lack thereof)- you should do what makes you happy, of course. For myself, I prefer a shaved woman simply because I can get my tongue in there without annoying hairs interfering with the taste and sensations. I will, of course, be happy to demonstrate on my next trip to Oregon.
Net Gossip
Mutt writes on Netpond: this board is endlessly more entertaining than the Opening Ceremony to the Sydney Olympics. Tho things may be picking up, the tv host just said 'folks don't miss the finale! A uniquely Australian tribute to the brave new digital world "Salute to Spamming". They're going to drop 3 billion million envelopes from the sky onto the stadium floor covered in farm animals engaged in various acts of sodomy with Aboriginals'
Anonymous Sex Anyone?
Dudley Moore writes: Luke, the sex industry is an entire anonymous world unto itself, ALWAYS visible to those of us with a fascination for its anonymous sex. So it's very easy to overlook the equally obvious reality that society actually ADDS an exciting dimension to sex and human sexuality. Seen in the light of society, the sex industry is simply sex stripped of its social dimension.
To make my point about the anonymity of the sex of the sex industry: Rape creates an anonymous world for its victims. Crime and asocial behaviors create their own anonymous worlds. Prison creates its own anonymous, regressive world for captives. And the sex industry, with its sexually addictive, regressive and deviant behaviors, likewise creates its own anonymous world of porn, nude dancing, massage parlors, prostitution, and other anonymous encounters.
That's why primatology, in my view, gives such a telling perspective on the sex industry, and its anonymous, peculiarly regressive and sexually addictive behaviors. Did you know that men really do ejaculate substantially more semen in anonymous encounters, due to the extra excitement of anonymity? This is an adaptation evolved to give anonymous male semen donors a better chance at paternity when competing against other anonymous donors, particularly in matings outside their home groups with exotic females. The result is greater genetic diversity, and I speculate, eventually even new species.
Would you kindly speculate on any connection you see between the anonymous sex of the sex industry, primatology, and the quantity of ejaculate in your own anonymous encounters?
Update to Bare midriffs, panties, and belly rings The latest fad is jeans with cut-off waistbands, open at front, back, and sides, with NO panties.
Would you please ask Lynne or any other current or former female sex workers to comment on the following: What does it mean when porn actresses, dancers, and prostitutes say that they feel that they "reclaim their sexual power" through sex work? I would really appreciate your comments, as I truly don't understand this paradox. It seems impossible to me that something as degrading as anonymous sex could make women feel empowered, whether in porn, dancing, or prostitution. Perhaps they feel self-sufficient for the first time in their lives as a result of their newfound ability to earn an income, or even be sex entrepreneurs? Or perhaps they are experiencing the newly discovered emotional support of their fellow female sex workers, and find they can express themselves to others like themselves who are able to understand them and can listen to them for perhaps the first time in their lives?
Homosexual Marriage to Become Netherlands' Next Failed Social Experiment
FRONT ROYAL, Va., Sept. 15 /PRNewswire/ -- "From the same country that brought you child pornography, needle park, involuntary euthanasia, and window-shopping for prostitutes, we now get homosexual marriage," stated Father Matthew Habiger, OSB, President of Human Life International, the world's largest pro-life, pro-faith, pro-family apostolate.
"The same anti-faith indifference that characterizes all of the Netherlands' political disasters was at work again as the Dutch parliament voted to approve homosexual marriage. There doesn't seem to be an ill-advised, immoral, or half-baked social policy that the Dutch aren't willing to make into law." The bill permitting homosexual marriage and adoption passed the lower house of the Dutch parliament with very little fanfare on Wednesday. Opposed only by a small group of religious political parties, the bill will become law next year, following a vote from the upper house of parliament (largely regarded as a formality). Advocates of the bill claimed that it reflected changing public attitudes about homosexuality. In order to avoid conflict with countries that do not approve of homosexual marriage, overseas adoption will be prohibited. Dutch law allows only Dutch citizens or those with resident permits to marry.
"As Amsterdam goes, so goes ... well, probably no one," continued Fr. Habiger. "It is with good reason that Dutch social policy-which is similarly liberal towards drugs, prostitution, and pornography-is rarely adopted by the rest of the world. Same-sex marriage is overwhelmingly opposed by the majority of Americans. And that opposition remains constant throughout most of the world. Homosexual marriage is an insult to the sacrament of marriage and the family. It reduces marriage to nothing more than a series of legal benefits-it robs it of its meaning and its sanctity. We have an obligation to protect children and families and discourage immoral and destructive behavior. Society depends on healthy families for future healthy citizens. This is simply legalized sterility. Lopsided families. How can a balanced future citizen come from an unbalanced, lopsided family? In the Netherlands, they seem to have gotten it backwards. The family is the foundation of our society. The Dutch may finally have delivered their last blow to those foundations with this law."
Blatt Joins FSC Political Agenda Working Group
Kevin Blatt of Sundownmedia.com has joined the Free Speech Coalition's Internet Working Group. "Kevin will be invaluable in approaching potential members from around the adult Internet community and promoting their interests, and in helping us define the political 'hot buttons' for all Netizens," stated William Lyon, Executive Director of FSC.
To kick off its Internet program, the Free Speech Coalition will be holding a private, invitation only, salon at the Sheraton New Orleans on September 22, 2000 at 5:00 p.m. "In this dangerous political climate, it is very important that webmasters align with the Free Speech Coalition. FSC is the most experienced and successful advocate for adult free speech rights, and they represent the entire industry. Nowadays, it's a together we stand, divided we fall situation," says Blatt.
For more information on the Free Speech Coalition or the New Orleans salon please email freespeech@freespeechcoalition.com.